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Posted: 9/11/2013 12:59:22 PM EDT
[#1]
It's amateur hour at the white house.
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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:00:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:01:48 PM EDT
[#3]
Stolen....yeah right...that's it they were "stolen".
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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:02:01 PM EDT
[#4]
Stolen my ass
Edit: Damn it I suck |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:02:10 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote Historyo'rly? you won't find any service member saying anything like that. They don't want them on the battlefield. |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:02:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe Fuck they're not!!!!! are you on dope? 
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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:03:12 PM EDT
[#7]
"Stolen"....? LMAO
Those are the weapons that were given to them, Bengazi was left to burn, and this is the timed hit piece that they were "stolen". Released on 9/11, no less. Fuck these people. |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:03:25 PM EDT
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Stolen....yeah right...that's it they were "stolen". Gonna go with this. |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:05:20 PM EDT
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AVS-9's... Great, just what needs to be in the hands of the ROP.
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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:06:08 PM EDT
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The Fuck they're not!!!!! are you on dope?
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The Fuck they're not!!!!! are you on dope?
Serialized isn't the same as sensitive to me, if you don't have to roll crypto then it wasn't THAT sensitive. |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:06:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryPretty sure being able to see in the dark while the enemy can't is a tactical advantage... |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:06:33 PM EDT
[#12]
Arma III Waistland: Syria
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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:08:09 PM EDT
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in the big scheme of things, a few peq's and nods in enemy hands isnt a HUGE deal,
BUT... tactically it could suck for someone if bad guyshave this shit, and figure out how we use it. |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:10:57 PM EDT
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in the big scheme of things, a few peq's and nods in enemy hands isnt a HUGE deal, BUT... tactically it could suck for someone if bad guyshave this shit, and figure out how we use it. Nah Allah guides there bullets. |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:11:05 PM EDT
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Serialized isn't the same as sensitive to me, if you don't have to roll crypto then it wasn't THAT sensitive. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Fuck they're not!!!!! are you on dope?
Serialized isn't the same as sensitive to me, if you don't have to roll crypto then it wasn't THAT sensitive. You are dumb and do not understand anything about military operations. Please stop embarrassing yourself. Thanks. |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:13:31 PM EDT
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You are dumb and do not understand anything about military operations. Please stop embarrassing yourself. Thanks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Fuck they're not!!!!! are you on dope?
Serialized isn't the same as sensitive to me, if you don't have to roll crypto then it wasn't THAT sensitive. You are dumb and do not understand anything about military operations. Please stop embarrassing yourself. Thanks. Guess being USMC infantry for 4 years left me ignorant. Shit goes missing all of the time, they didn't gain some whiz bang crazy intel from nabbing a few NODs. |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:21:51 PM EDT
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o'rly? you won't find any service member saying anything like that. They don't want them on the battlefield. Quote HistoryQuoted:
you won't find any service member saying anything like that. They don't want them on the battlefield. Oh right, thats why i cant buy one... or even look through one in the USA |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:26:51 PM EDT
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Guess being USMC infantry for 4 years left me ignorant. Shit goes missing all of the time, they didn't gain some whiz bang crazy intel from nabbing a few NODs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Fuck they're not!!!!! are you on dope?
Serialized isn't the same as sensitive to me, if you don't have to roll crypto then it wasn't THAT sensitive. You are dumb and do not understand anything about military operations. Please stop embarrassing yourself. Thanks. Guess being USMC infantry for 4 years left me ignorant. Shit goes missing all of the time, they didn't gain some whiz bang crazy intel from nabbing a few NODs. Shit should not be missing. If its got a serial # and is the books it's a sensitive item. Nods are definatly a sensitive item. It goes on the monthly sn check. |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:38:19 PM EDT
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Wasn't there a huge fuss at JBLM a year or so ago when some nods and lasers grew legs and went missing?
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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:39:56 PM EDT
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Shit should not be missing. If its got a serial # and is the books it's a sensitive item. Nods are definatly a sensitive item. It goes on the monthly sn check. Histrionics. |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 1:54:00 PM EDT
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Serialized isn't the same as sensitive to me, if you don't have to roll crypto then it wasn't THAT sensitive. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Fuck they're not!!!!! are you on dope?
Serialized isn't the same as sensitive to me, if you don't have to roll crypto then it wasn't THAT sensitive. You go night raid some hadjis with pvs14s or anvis 9s and get back to me there soap mctavish. |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 2:16:55 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOh no, all our enemies should have them - provided by us. 
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Posted: 9/11/2013 2:27:45 PM EDT
[#23]
"Stolen" right. Or more like "supplied."
Oh, wait a second the US Govt ain't taking a side on this one......it's a civil war. Aloha, Mark |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 2:37:38 PM EDT
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The 12-member American team was not at the training camp when either raid occurred, as they regularly stayed at a nearby villa that served as a safehouse at night.
Located just outside of Tripoli, the camp was supposed to be secured each night by Libyan forces. But on two occasions, the camp was attacked and raided by either militia members or groups affiliated with terrorist organizations. So, they are either incompetent (Special forces - not likely) or they lied and they supplied them. I'm going with "Our government has lied to us yet again" for 1000 Alex ! |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 2:41:30 PM EDT
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So we had Special Forces in the country to train some assholes that are likely a threat to any and all Americans.
Our Embassador had what, two guys to protect him from a organized attack. |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 2:44:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Guess being USMC infantry for 4 years left me ignorant. Shit goes missing all of the time, they didn't gain some whiz bang crazy intel from nabbing a few NODs. It sucks for the bad guys to get this stuff period, I like the idea of our men having an advantage, but the reality is that the equipment isn't what makes our guys better, it is the ability to use the equipment effectively, that takes lots of training, and in the Mid East they prefer the will of Allah over training. |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 2:53:03 PM EDT
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Guess being USMC infantry for 4 years left me ignorant. Shit goes missing all of the time, they didn't gain some whiz bang crazy intel from nabbing a few NODs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Fuck they're not!!!!! are you on dope?
Serialized isn't the same as sensitive to me, if you don't have to roll crypto then it wasn't THAT sensitive. You are dumb and do not understand anything about military operations. Please stop embarrassing yourself. Thanks. Guess being USMC infantry for 4 years left me ignorant. Shit goes missing all of the time, they didn't gain some whiz bang crazy intel from nabbing a few NODs. Anti up and get your tank if you served. Nods do and lasers do not go missing all the time. That is a major issue, especially in a combat zone. If haji has nods, then we lose our tactical advantage at night. Would you want to go on a night raid when the enemy knows you are coming? |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 3:21:10 PM EDT
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Stolen....yeah right...that's it they were "stolen". exactly. |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 3:23:06 PM EDT
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Anti up and get your tank if you served. I don't know him from Adam, but assuming he's being honest about serving, he doesn't have to send in a copy of his form if he doesn't want to. I dunno if I'd even bother with it myself if I'd served. |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 3:27:01 PM EDT
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Guess being USMC infantry for 4 years left me ignorant. Shit goes missing all of the time, they didn't gain some whiz bang crazy intel from nabbing a few NODs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Fuck they're not!!!!! are you on dope?
Serialized isn't the same as sensitive to me, if you don't have to roll crypto then it wasn't THAT sensitive. You are dumb and do not understand anything about military operations. Please stop embarrassing yourself. Thanks. Guess being USMC infantry for 4 years left me ignorant. Shit goes missing all of the time, they didn't gain some whiz bang crazy intel from nabbing a few NODs. yea...fuck we give that shit to the ANA and they cant even figure out how to change the batteries.... |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 3:27:50 PM EDT
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and make some educated guesses about what happened. The weapons and equipment were a gift to the country of Libya. The SF pax were "in country" to assist in training the official, current military of Libya in counter-terrorism. Lax security at the base allowed radicals to infiltrate and steal the goods. Anything else doesn't make sense.
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Posted: 9/11/2013 3:28:27 PM EDT
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Anti up and get your tank if you served. Nods do and lasers do not go missing all the time. That is a major issue, especially in a combat zone. If haji has nods, then we lose our tactical advantage at night. Would you want to go on a night raid when the enemy knows you are coming? hadji has nods |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 3:34:02 PM EDT
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UNFUCKING BELIEVEABLE
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Posted: 9/11/2013 3:35:23 PM EDT
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and make some educated guesses about what happened. The weapons and equipment were a gift to the country of Libya. The SF pax were "in country" to assist in training the official, current military of Libya in counter-terrorism. Lax security at the base allowed radicals to infiltrate and steal the goods. Anything else doesn't make sense. GTFO with your logic. Don't you know where you are?
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Posted: 9/11/2013 3:36:44 PM EDT
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huh? why were they staying in one place and storing this gear somewhere unprotected? got to be purposeful.
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Posted: 9/11/2013 3:37:07 PM EDT
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I don't know him from Adam, but assuming he's being honest about serving, he doesn't have to send in a copy of his form if he doesn't want to. I dunno if I'd even bother with it myself if I'd served. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anti up and get your tank if you served. I don't know him from Adam, but assuming he's being honest about serving, he doesn't have to send in a copy of his form if he doesn't want to. I dunno if I'd even bother with it myself if I'd served. He's a big boy, he can speak for himself. Thanks for stopping by though! |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 3:44:22 PM EDT
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It's amateur hour at the white house. Hour?
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Posted: 9/11/2013 3:45:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I don't know him from Adam, but assuming he's being honest about serving, he doesn't have to send in a copy of his form if he doesn't want to. I dunno if I'd even bother with it myself if I'd served. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anti up and get your tank if you served. I don't know him from Adam, but assuming he's being honest about serving, he doesn't have to send in a copy of his form if he doesn't want to. I dunno if I'd even bother with it myself if I'd served. Why not? Omit sensitive info and take a picture of it. Why does everyone act like dd214's are highly sensitive top secret documents? Or he may even have a marine corp email which would work I believe. |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 3:45:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/11/2013 3:47:00 PM EDT
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Hour?
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It's amateur hour at the white house. Hour?
I think it autocorrected from "whore" 
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Posted: 9/11/2013 3:50:39 PM EDT
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Wasn't there a huge fuss at JBLM a year or so ago when some nods and lasers grew legs and went missing? I did some work on an old base in Col, OH maybe 12-15 years ago. The only thing open at the time was the motor pool which was run by a Master Sergeant if I remember right. Anyway, he was cool as shit and liked us so we pretty much had the run of the place. One day, this big crate was sitting in one of the bays as we left for lunch. All the .mil guys were gone already. We thought nothing of it and left for lunch ourselves. Well, we came back to a shitstorm in the cat 4 range for sure. Apparently the crate was full of nods and somebody had helped themselves to some of them. 
That old MSGT copped a whole new attitude I'll tell you. Said there wasn't a swingin dick goin NOWHERE till those nods were found. Evidently they found them by the time we were ready to go because all was back on an even keel by then. He did ask us what if we had seen the crate on our way out and if we remembered anything about the condition the crate was in when we left but never did treat us as suspects. The next day he was right back to his old self. |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 3:52:54 PM EDT
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This is real good. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/11/us-military-weapons-equipment-stolen-in-libya-raids/ And the Special Forces were pulled out because of it. Remember we were told the attack was caused by some unflattering video of Islam on Youtube. Move along, nothing to see here. |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 4:02:42 PM EDT
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Do these guys even know how to use that gear?
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Posted: 9/11/2013 4:10:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Arma III Waistland: Syria What's the teamspeak address? 
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Posted: 9/11/2013 4:10:44 PM EDT
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So, they are either incompetent (Special forces - not likely) or they lied and they supplied them. I'm going with "Our government has lied to us yet again" for 1000 Alex ! Quote HistoryQuoted:
The 12-member American team was not at the training camp when either raid occurred, as they regularly stayed at a nearby villa that served as a safehouse at night.
Located just outside of Tripoli, the camp was supposed to be secured each night by Libyan forces. But on two occasions, the camp was attacked and raided by either militia members or groups affiliated with terrorist organizations. So, they are either incompetent (Special forces - not likely) or they lied and they supplied them. I'm going with "Our government has lied to us yet again" for 1000 Alex ! Lol you said not likely. Most of those guys are not happy about going back to their real jobs of training people how to fight. Except for 1st and 7th group, their AOs are real nice. SF guys are just like the rest of the military when it comes to fuck ups, they jst have a smaller pool and therefore less problems numerically. Just look at the guys who gave steroids and booze to SSG Bales, same group that got busted with the SS rolling hookers down south. |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 4:13:56 PM EDT
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Correct me if I am wrong here but isn't one of the big things with NVG's and lasers that you can see not only where you are aiming but where everyone else is aiming as well? So if our side has their lasers on then an enemy with NVG's knows everyone's position? They could also see where you are pointing a laser for an airstrike?
If so I can see why military leadership has kittens when they go missing.That stuff may be available in the US but you better be careful buying it. I have been told that both of those items are things uncle same will show up at your door over if it actually belongs to the military. |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 4:20:00 PM EDT
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Whoever authorized this should be fired:
The 12-member American team was not at the training camp when either raid occurred, as they regularly stayed at a nearby villa that served as a safehouse at night.
Located just outside of Tripoli, the camp was supposed to be secured each night by Libyan forces. But on two occasions, the camp was attacked and raided by either militia members or groups affiliated with terrorist organizations. |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 4:21:03 PM EDT
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Correct me if I am wrong here but isn't one of the big things with NVG's and lasers that you can see not only where you are aiming but where everyone else is aiming as well? So if our side has their lasers on then an enemy with NVG's knows everyone's position? They could also see where you are pointing a laser for an airstrike? If so I can see why military leadership has kittens when they go missing.That stuff may be available in the US but you better be careful buying it. I have been told that both of those items are things uncle same will show up at your door over if it actually belongs to the military. Not to mention IR strobes on soldiers, IR patches, IR Blackout lights on vehicles and helos etc. |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 4:24:17 PM EDT
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Well on the bright side, they just saved us the cost of shipping them to Al-Qaeda in Syria. You know....all that "non-lethal" aid McCain and Obama got all pumped up to send over there.
But a "shit was stolen" excuse provides some cover when our guys start getting killed because we handed these tools over to those people. Obama and McCain can just say "well these weren't the ones we gave them, they were the ones stolen in Libya." |
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Posted: 9/11/2013 4:24:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whoever authorized this should be fired: Quote HistoryQuoted: Whoever authorized this should be fired: The 12-member American team was not at the training camp when either raid occurred, as they regularly stayed at a nearby villa that served as a safehouse at night. Located just outside of Tripoli, the camp was supposed to be secured each night by Libyan forces. But on two occasions, the camp was attacked and raided by either militia members or groups affiliated with terrorist organizations. |
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