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Posted: 8/5/2013 6:53:09 PM EDT
[#1]
Prove it.
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Posted: 8/5/2013 6:53:47 PM EDT
[#2]
TT thread. In before Grin
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Posted: 8/5/2013 6:53:50 PM EDT
[#3]
Wow, 13er.... Nobody has ever brought up this subject before! You're a genius!
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Posted: 8/5/2013 6:54:28 PM EDT
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IMO milspsc is basically a light machine gun that's way more than /I need
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Posted: 8/5/2013 6:55:00 PM EDT
[#5]
Because they have never seen some of the 'mil spec' crap in use by the US military.
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Posted: 8/5/2013 6:56:53 PM EDT
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Because most people don't know what a "mil-spec" is... Much less WHICH mil-spec(s)the part meets.
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Posted: 8/5/2013 6:57:02 PM EDT
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Mostly because it keeps everything standardized.
Ever heard of Colt......yeah that's why. Let's see if the 13'er can figure out the Colt issue....  |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 6:57:19 PM EDT
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It works.
As a young dumb kid I bought lots of parts for my car that all turned out to be inferior to Ford-spec. Now I just use OEM and I am happy |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 6:57:57 PM EDT
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I find it funny and somewhat annoying that so many people are so caught up with mil-spec parts. Don't get me wrong, mil-spec is good, it works, but there is better to be had. Innovation is key, current mil-spec is overrated. Mil-spec is easily surpassed. Out with the old, in with the new. "A man who is used to acting one way never changes; he must come to ruin when the times, in changing, no longer are in harmony with his ways." - Niccolo Machiavelli Mil-spec is a standard. It's a starting point. The bottom floor so to speak. |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 6:57:58 PM EDT
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Because i'd feel safer shooting people in the face using a colt fcg than something nobody knows what is
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Posted: 8/5/2013 6:58:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow, 13er.... Nobody has ever brought up this subject before! You're a genius! Yes, this should be quite an entertaining thread. |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 6:58:46 PM EDT
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It's a known standard.
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Posted: 8/5/2013 6:58:53 PM EDT
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Wow, 13er.... Nobody has ever brought up this subject before! You're a genius! I'm not claiming to be the first to bring it up. It is annoying when people's rifle are brutally criticized for not being MIL-SPEC. My not mil-spec rifle is more accurate, much more accurate, more ergonomic, smoother, and just as reliable as my mil-spec rig. |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 6:59:22 PM EDT
[#14]
Because it says....
MIL and SPEC and that translates to... AWESOME |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:00:00 PM EDT
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LOL.......they have been tested - they work
Ever shoot a non-milspec gun? Many, many models don't reliably go "bang" when you want.... /thread 
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:00:22 PM EDT
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My 70 y/o mom is very proud of her mils spec cell phone.
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:01:07 PM EDT
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Because, at the minimum, being mil spec means that it should be of a known, measurable quality, in fit, finish, and material.
If I know a weapon conforms to mil spec, then I am reasonably assured any mil spec replacement parts should fit and work without second thought. I don't want to be stuck having only one source for compatible parts.. I want a good universal fit. Now, it doesn't mean I won't accept better quality should I be able to get it.. and I think the same goes for most mil spec folks. It just means we have a minimum standard that we want to start from.. |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:01:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:01:18 PM EDT
[#19]
I expected this thread from a Kali person, not someone from our Heartland.
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:01:59 PM EDT
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Post THE CHART!!
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:02:02 PM EDT
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There are mil spec materials
There are mil spec machining tolerances There are mil spec machined surface finishes There are mil spec heat treatments There are mil spec passivation processes for corrosion protection When someone claims to sell "mil-spec" components, it could mean they meet any of the above, but not necessarily all of the above. Buyer beware. |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:02:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I'm not claiming to be the first to bring it up. It is annoying when people's rifle are brutally criticized for not being MIL-SPEC. My not mil-spec rifle is more accurate, much more accurate, more ergonomic, smoother, and just as reliable as my mil-spec rig. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wow, 13er.... Nobody has ever brought up this subject before! You're a genius! I'm not claiming to be the first to bring it up. It is annoying when people's rifle are brutally criticized for not being MIL-SPEC. My not mil-spec rifle is more accurate, much more accurate, more ergonomic, smoother, and just as reliable as my mil-spec rig. 
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:02:44 PM EDT
[#23]
Why are you in love with BOY PARTS.....
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:02:53 PM EDT
[#24]
Op is talking about his "super expensive" ar
Check out op genius here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/617203_SUPER_EXPENSIVE_AR__over__3000__PICTURE_THREAD.html |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:02:57 PM EDT
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If you are talking about AR15's or M16's then realize that no matter what some manufacturer says about their shit parts it is only mil spec if the part is made by FN or Colt.
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:04:14 PM EDT
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OP, your thread fucking sucks, and this isn't an airsoft forum.
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:05:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not claiming to be the first to bring it up. It is annoying when people's rifle are brutally criticized for not being MIL-SPEC. My not mil-spec rifle is more accurate, much more accurate, more ergonomic, smoother, and just as reliable as my mil-spec rig. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wow, 13er.... Nobody has ever brought up this subject before! You're a genius! I'm not claiming to be the first to bring it up. It is annoying when people's rifle are brutally criticized for not being MIL-SPEC. My not mil-spec rifle is more accurate, much more accurate, more ergonomic, smoother, and just as reliable as my mil-spec rig. It's not that commercial ARs are bad; most non-mil-spec ARs work just fine under normal conditions, and 99% of shooters will never notice the difference. It's that during prolonged high-stress use mil-spec parts are much less likely to fail than non-mil-spec parts. Statistics, and all that. Now, you can argue that it's not really worth the extra cost for non-military/LEO individuals to own one, and you'd be correct in most situations. But mil-spec parts cost more for a reason. |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:05:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Post THE CHART!! Yes, yes, THE CHART!!! Oracle of Truth!! |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:05:49 PM EDT
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It's a known standard. This. What is a rifles job? Reliably put rounds on target. Mil-spec is a know standard that has 40 years of data gathering and solid performance. OP is just mad he threw money away |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:06:01 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted: I find it funny and somewhat annoying that so many people are so caught up with mil-spec parts. Don't get me wrong, mil-spec is good, it works, but there is better to be had. Innovation is key, current mil-spec is overrated. Mil-spec is easily surpassed. Out with the old, in with the new. "A man who is used to acting one way never changes; he must come to ruin when the times, in changing, no longer are in harmony with his ways." - Niccolo Machiavelli Ironic.  |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:07:01 PM EDT
[#31]
Consistency.
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:07:29 PM EDT
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Op is talking about his "super expensive" ar Check out op genius here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/617203_SUPER_EXPENSIVE_AR__over__3000__PICTURE_THREAD.html We should all line up and see who can pee the farthest. |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:07:34 PM EDT
[#33]
Ain't Colt?
Ain't shit. |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:07:48 PM EDT
[#34]
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Mostly because it keeps everything standardized. Ever heard of Colt......yeah that's why. Let's see if the 13'er can figure out the Colt issue.... I will never own a Colt. Colt has made some of the best revolvers, but I believe Colt is an unoriginal company who got rich off of the AR15 and the 1911, both designs from other people, without bring anything new and innovative to the table. The owners of Colt probably spend their days poolside at the country club, while guys like John Paul of JP rifles spend his free time at the range deciding how to make guns better. Innovation and perfection. |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:08:41 PM EDT
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It works. As a young dumb kid I bought lots of parts for my car that all turned out to be inferior to Ford-spec. Now I just use OEM and I am happy But why buy a Ford, when you can buy a Ferrari?? |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:09:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I will never own a Colt. Colt has made some of the best revolvers, but I believe Colt is an unoriginal company who got rich off of the AR15 and the 1911, both designs from other people, without bring anything new and innovative to the table. The owners of Colt probably spend their days poolside at the country club, while guys like John Paul of JP rifles spend his free time at the range deciding how to make guns better. Innovation and perfection. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Mostly because it keeps everything standardized. Ever heard of Colt......yeah that's why. Let's see if the 13'er can figure out the Colt issue.... I will never own a Colt. Colt has made some of the best revolvers, but I believe Colt is an unoriginal company who got rich off of the AR15 and the 1911, both designs from other people, without bring anything new and innovative to the table. The owners of Colt probably spend their days poolside at the country club, while guys like John Paul of JP rifles spend his free time at the range deciding how to make guns better. Innovation and perfection. Okay, what was your username before you got banned the last time? I predict Nor_Cal will find him to be...familiar. |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:09:58 PM EDT
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I find it funny and somewhat annoying that so many people are so caught up with mil-spec parts. Don't get me wrong, mil-spec is good, it works, but there is better to be had. Innovation is key, current mil-spec is overrated. Mil-spec is easily surpassed. Out with the old, in with the new. "A man who is used to acting one way never changes; he must come to ruin when the times, in changing, no longer are in harmony with his ways." - Niccolo Machiavelli I find it funny and somewhat annoying that so many people are so caught up with other people's rifle parts. Don't get me wrong, other people's rifle parts are good, but there are better to be had. Innovation is key, other people's rifle parts are overrated. Other people's rifle parts are easily surpassed. Out with the old, in with the new. My rifle knowledge and budget is far superior to anyone elses. Bow to your new internet gun board overlord. "Blah, blah, blah" |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:10:19 PM EDT
[#38]
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But why buy a Ford, when you can buy a Ferrari?? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It works. As a young dumb kid I bought lots of parts for my car that all turned out to be inferior to Ford-spec. Now I just use OEM and I am happy But why buy a Ford, when you can buy a Ferrari?? In Oklahoma if you own a Ferrari they let you manage the trailer park. At least until you piss away all of your lotto winnings. 
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:10:46 PM EDT
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LOL.......they have been tested - they work Ever shoot a non-milspec gun? Many, many models don't reliably go "bang" when you want.... /thread I would bet my life on my non-MIL-SPEC rifle just as fast or quicker than my Mil-spec rifle. |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:12:16 PM EDT
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because when I stick my balls in your face from a blown out crotch you can't say its gay because thats a god damn fucking feature of mil spec pants bitch.
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:12:46 PM EDT
[#41]
Read his other crap.
Fuckin 13er. |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:12:52 PM EDT
[#42]
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Because, at the minimum, being mil spec means that it should be of a known, measurable quality, in fit, finish, and material. If I know a weapon conforms to mil spec, then I am reasonably assured any mil spec replacement parts should fit and work without second thought. I don't want to be stuck having only one source for compatible parts.. I want a good universal fit. Now, it doesn't mean I won't accept better quality should I be able to get it.. and I think the same goes for most mil spec folks. It just means we have a minimum standard that we want to start from.. Now this makes sense. Someone who actually has a valid reason for why mil-spec is important to him. |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:13:16 PM EDT
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"Mil-Spec"
true mil-spec is a very high standard... there is a reason that for the most part Colt guns have less QC problems than other brands considering the numbers they put out... can not speak to other industries but in the firearms realm "Mil-Spec" is constantly changing and stays top of its class 
now just because someone claims they made their part to a "Mil-Spec" does not mean that they followed the prints exactly... |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:14:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would bet my life on my non-MIL-SPEC rifle just as fast or quicker than my Mil-spec rifle. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LOL.......they have been tested - they work Ever shoot a non-milspec gun? Many, many models don't reliably go "bang" when you want.... /thread I would bet my life on my non-MIL-SPEC rifle just as fast or quicker than my Mil-spec rifle. How many times? |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:15:50 PM EDT
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But why buy a Ford, when you can buy a Ferrari?? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It works. As a young dumb kid I bought lots of parts for my car that all turned out to be inferior to Ford-spec. Now I just use OEM and I am happy But why buy a Ford, when you can buy a Ferrari?? Because the Ford works * I actually worked at a Ferrari dealership as a teen
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:18:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Op is talking about his "super expensive" ar Check out op genius here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/617203_SUPER_EXPENSIVE_AR__over__3000__PICTURE_THREAD.html Oh, that dude. Doesn't OP get raped a little in each one of the threads that he starts? |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:20:03 PM EDT
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Now don't rip me up guys just Trina learn but whats athirteener? My guess is that it is someone who joined the forum in 2013 which make me a thirteener but I could be wrong lol
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:20:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Op is talking about his "super expensive" ar Check out op genius here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/617203_SUPER_EXPENSIVE_AR__over__3000__PICTURE_THREAD.html And wasn't there a thread about having the break inside the rail like that? It didn't go so well if I remember right. |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:20:59 PM EDT
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Now don't rip me up guys just Trina learn but whats athirteener? My guess is that it is someone who joined the forum in 2013 which make me a thirteener but I could be wrong lol |
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:21:53 PM EDT
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This. What is a rifles job? Reliably put rounds on target. Mil-spec is a know standard that has 40 years of data gathering and solid performance. OP is just mad he threw money away Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's a known standard. This. What is a rifles job? Reliably put rounds on target. Mil-spec is a know standard that has 40 years of data gathering and solid performance. OP is just mad he threw money away I'm dying to see your rifles. I'm sure they shear perfection, are 150% reliable, and shoot 0 MOA groups @ 1000 yds. |
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