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Posted: 7/2/2013 1:57:18 PM EDT
It's none of your god damn business what someone else does, if it harms nothing and no one.  If you don't "like" something or "approve" of something, well tough fucking shit.

Discuss


Link Posted: 7/2/2013 1:58:53 PM EDT
[#1]
You mad, bro?
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:00:35 PM EDT
[#2]
But...but... think of the effects on society

Oh, and don't forget the children™
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:02:24 PM EDT
[#3]
Sometimes the State becomes the victim (ie domestic violence) even when the real victim doesn't want to press charges.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:02:28 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
It's none of your god damn business what someone else does, if it harms nothing and no one.  If you don't "like" something or "approve" of something, well tough fucking shit.

Discuss




Why were you taken into custody OP?
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:03:17 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Sometimes the State becomes the victim (ie domestic violence) even when the real victim doesn't want to press charges.


A victim unwilling to press charges is still a victim.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:03:24 PM EDT
[#6]
What? Don't tell me....

You got picked up on a DUI, and want everyone to beleive that it's a "victimless crime".

Well, tough fucking shit.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:03:36 PM EDT
[#7]
DUI? Who is hurt when the driver drives into a ditch? Or their own garage?
 






But then again when you run over a group of kids...
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:04:12 PM EDT
[#8]
depends.  how "victimless" is it really?

this of course may depend on the infraction.


Quoted:
What? Don't tell me....

You got picked up on a DUI, and want everyone to beleive that it's a "victimless crime".

Well, tough fucking shit.

If it was DUI then yeah, "victimless" is just a matter of time.  Like Russian Roulette - eventually someone's gonna get fucked up.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:05:15 PM EDT
[#9]

Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:05:21 PM EDT
[#10]
Because if it isn't endorsed by Jeezus then it isn't acceptable. That's why.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:05:57 PM EDT
[#11]
Seatbelt ticket?
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:06:08 PM EDT
[#12]
But what if the victims are the trees and the animals who cannot speak for themselves? WHO WILL SPEAK FOR THE ANIMALS!?!? The Lorax will speak for the trees.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:06:47 PM EDT
[#13]
Was this precipitated by the incest thread?
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:06:55 PM EDT
[#14]
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:08:15 PM EDT
[#15]
John?
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:08:27 PM EDT
[#16]
When I intervened in a stabbing the victim bolted, and I was the one who magically became the victim because I used force.  The argument made by the OP is a tautology.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:08:39 PM EDT
[#17]
From their viewpoint, everyone is a POTENTIAL victim... it's just a matter of WHEN you go crazy and hurt someone.

Pre-Crime prevents the crime from taking place.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:10:46 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
It's none of your god damn business what someone else does, if it harms nothing and no one.  If you don't "like" something or "approve" of something, well tough fucking shit.

Discuss




Obama wasting trillions of $, that OK with the op.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:11:15 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
It's none of your god damn business what someone else does, if it harms nothing and no one.  If you don't "like" something or "approve" of something, well tough fucking shit.

Discuss




Tell that to the ATF
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:12:03 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
But...but... think of the effects on society

Oh, and don't forget the children™


Da comrade! The collective must be preserved at all costs!
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:12:07 PM EDT
[#21]

Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:15:48 PM EDT
[#22]
If you're talking a seatbelt or a little bit of weed, sure I agree.

DUI? You can just GTFO with your "victimless crime" bullshit.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:19:41 PM EDT
[#23]
He's probably mad that everyone is not on board in the pro-incest thread...
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:20:33 PM EDT
[#24]
Sorry, dude, but according to the law "hookers" are indeed victims. Sorry to break it to you.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:22:16 PM EDT
[#25]



Quoted:


It's none of your god damn business what someone else does, if it harms nothing and no one.  







so driving drunk and not wrecking or killing someone is not a crime?



 
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:25:25 PM EDT
[#26]
Pftttttt- Engineers ??? no one likes engineers
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:26:49 PM EDT
[#27]
Said every person who cheated on his taxes.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:29:36 PM EDT
[#28]
Exactly what an immoral world needs. Relinquishing of moral authority.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:30:29 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
From their viewpoint, everyone is a POTENTIAL victim... it's just a matter of WHEN you go crazy and hurt someone.

Pre-Crime prevents the crime from taking place.


And I thought the OP was crazy
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:31:07 PM EDT
[#30]
Jesus Christ on the cross, enough Libertarian bullshit already around here. You're like fucking Moonies without the robes.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:31:12 PM EDT
[#31]
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:33:31 PM EDT
[#32]
I disagree..

If someone was peeping at me and someone elses wife doing it, and they told no one. They commited a crime.

I'd never sleep with another mans wife, but that doesnt change the fact that it is still a crime. Me commiting a bad act does not absolve the voyuer, that is the point here.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:37:19 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Sometimes the State becomes the victim (ie domestic violence) even when the real victim doesn't want to press charges.


A victim unwilling to press charges is still a victim.


right up till the state says that no matter what, someone goes to jail A few years back when I lived in Tulsa my neighbors were in the back yard screaming at each other. I was watching in case it got physical, it never did, just a loud argument. Well, the cops show up because as it turns out, another neighbor call in a domestic.  As he was getting arrested I got the attention of a cop standing off to the side and told him I saw the whole fight and neither one even touched the other. He stated that was what they both said and that neither had any marks, and as unfair as it is, when they show they HAVE to arrest someone. usually the male.
    So yeah, sometimes there is no crime when there is no victim, even if the state has its panties in a twist to generate revenue.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:43:41 PM EDT
[#34]



Quoted:


He's probably mad that everyone is not on board in the pro-incest thread...


Probably.



"Motherfuckers of the world, unite!"



"Change motherfuckers can believe in."





Nice slogans.



 
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:48:08 PM EDT
[#35]
There is nothing to discuss. On arfcom, you're an anarchist libertarian or a right wing statist lapdog.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:49:46 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:

Quoted:
He's probably mad that everyone is not on board in the pro-incest thread...

Probably.

"Motherfuckers of the world, unite!"

"Change motherfuckers can believe in."


Nice slogans.
 


Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:49:47 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:

Quoted:
He's probably mad that everyone is not on board in the pro-incest thread...

Probably.

"Motherfuckers of the world, unite!"

"Change motherfuckers can believe in."


Nice slogans.
 







Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:49:54 PM EDT
[#38]




Quoted:





Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:51:39 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
If you're talking a seatbelt or a little bit of weed, sure I agree.

DUI? You can just GTFO with your "victimless crime" bullshit.


Society becomes the victim when you wind up in a car crash, and because you were not wearing a seatbelt you are injured enough that EMS has to respond, or killed and the coroner has to go to work; it has to do with the tax payer being the victim.  Now if EMS were not required to respond where a seatbelt was not used by an injured motorist, nor the coroner (your body just stays there until next-of-kin takes care of it), then you might have an argument here.

Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:52:25 PM EDT
[#40]
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:53:14 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
I disagree..

If someone was peeping at me and someone elses wife doing it, and they told no one. They commited a crime.

I'd never sleep with another mans wife, but that doesnt change the fact that it is still a crime. Me commiting a bad act does not absolve the voyuer, that is the point here.



I ain't sure, buy I think adultery is still illegal in many places. So the voyeur is not necessarily a criminal, but a witness.

I do agree with the op to some extent. There are many things that are illegal, that cause no harm to anybody.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:53:24 PM EDT
[#42]
everything effects everyone in this new fucked up society.
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:54:55 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I disagree..

If someone was peeping at me and someone elses wife doing it, and they told no one. They commited a crime.

I'd never sleep with another mans wife, but that doesnt change the fact that it is still a crime. Me commiting a bad act does not absolve the voyuer, that is the point here.



I ain't sure, buy I think adultery is still illegal in many places. So the voyeur is not necessarily a criminal, but a witness.

I do agree with the op to some extent. There are many things that are illegal, that cause no harm to anybody.


Chargeable under the UCMJ.

Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:55:08 PM EDT
[#44]




Should poaching be illegal?






Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:56:46 PM EDT
[#46]
If there's no body there's no murder
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:56:54 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:


Should poaching be illegal?




Yes. There needs to be enough game for everyone to enjoy!
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:57:06 PM EDT
[#48]
roid rage?
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:57:16 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
If there's no body there's no murder


Not true .
Link Posted: 7/2/2013 2:57:55 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:


Should poaching be illegal?




Yes. It would be nowhere near as exciting and fun if it wasn't.
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