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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:07:10 PM EST
BOSTON (AP) — Jurors in James "Whitey" Bulger's racketeering trial on Thursday were shown machine guns and other weapons from a massive arsenal that investigators say he and his gang owned, as prosecutors attempted to show that Bulger ran a criminal enterprise through violence, intimidation and fear.

Retired state police Col. Thomas Foley identified weapons hidden in several locations during a 2000 investigation, including in a shed behind a South Boston home owned by the mother of Bulger's partner, Stephen "The Rifleman" Flemmi. When investigators searched the shed, they found just one handgun, but later, Flemmi's son led them to a house in Somerville and a storage facility in Florida where investigators say the guns had been moved.



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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:10:04 PM EST
MP-40's in the back?
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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:10:29 PM EST
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OP, are those MP-40's in the back and middle?

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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:11:15 PM EST
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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:12:17 PM EST
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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:13:12 PM EST
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OP, are those MP-40's in the back and middle?

ETA: HA! Beat by brassburn.


The one in the middle is an M3.
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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:15:41 PM EST
I am sure those silencers are legally registered and properly taxed by Federal Authorities.
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Possible NFA violation?
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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:18:47 PM EST
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MP-40's in the back?




It certainly does make the story a bit more interesting, now doesn't it?

Can you imagine being a juror on that trial?

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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:18:57 PM EST
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Possible NFA violation?


At his age even a sentence for an NFA violation is a life term.
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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:20:29 PM EST
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I am sure those silencers are legally registered and properly taxed by Federal Authorities.



Um,how else would he get them?

They are illegal otherwise.The gov says so.

Anything not under government control is,by definition,out of control.


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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:21:29 PM EST
And now the fucking government has their worthless paws on them.




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If they were setting up everything for photos you would think someone could have used a oily rag to get what looks like fingerprint powder off of them
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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:22:29 PM EST
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MP-40's in the back?


3 Mp-40's, a cut-down M-1 Carbine, what appears to be am M-16A1, and i can';t make out what the supressed subgun is in the center
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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:25:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By brassburn:
MP-40's in the back?


3 Mp-40's, a cut-down M-1 Carbine, what appears to be am M-16A1, and i can';t make out what the supressed subgun is in the center


looks like an m3 aka grease gun
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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:27:49 PM EST
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And now the fucking government has their worthless paws on them.






Dude,

It's Whitey Bulger.

I'm glad the gov has those guns.

Fuck Whitey Bulger and his fucking shithead brothers too.


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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:36:44 PM EST
Prosecutor Kristyna S. Mills said her office prosecutes these types of cases “all the time”speaking of the prosecution of Sgt. Nathan Haddad, a decorated combat veteran, for possessing AR15 magazines
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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:53:17 PM EST
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Bulger had a bunch of cops working for him so gun laws were not a concern


Feds actually.

Makes sense.
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MASSIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He had a lot more in his Apt in California.

These were just some found in Southie

I'm sure they are just scratching the surface with these anyways.

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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:55:08 PM EST
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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:55:22 PM EST
Bulger was also running guns for the IRA.

Barrets, MGs, C4, etc, etc.

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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:56:58 PM EST
At least Bulger wasn't a fucking carteller.

Why does the FBI even waste time with the old world mobsters these days? With so many bigger fish to fry?
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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:58:24 PM EST
Here are the guns found in Whitey's hideout in California.....

http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_162-10008574-1.html
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I hate to think of what will happen to those.



Hopefully, someone will find a way to steer those MP-40s off into a museum collection somewhere, otherwise I think they're going to be made into molten slabs.


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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:59:32 PM EST
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At least Bulger wasn't a fucking carteller.

Why does the FBI even waste time with the old world mobsters these days? With so many bigger fish to fry?


Bulger was a monster dude.

The only reason that this has gone on this long is because the FBI got wrapped up in his crimes too.

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Posted: 6/15/2013 6:00:15 PM EST
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Here are the guns found in Whitey's hideout in California.....

http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_162-10008574-1.html




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Posted: 6/15/2013 6:01:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Originally Posted By LibertarianYankee:
At least Bulger wasn't a fucking carteller.

Why does the FBI even waste time with the old world mobsters these days? With so many bigger fish to fry?


Bulger was a monster dude.

The only reason that this has gone on this long is because the FBI got wrapped up in his crimes too.


Hoover didn't want the FBI to go after the mob because he knew the mob would corrupt it, and h was right. The AG Kennedy forced him to, and almost immediately the mob corrupted the FBI.
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Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Originally Posted By LibertarianYankee:
At least Bulger wasn't a fucking carteller.

Why does the FBI even waste time with the old world mobsters these days? With so many bigger fish to fry?


Bulger was a monster dude.

The only reason that this has gone on this long is because the FBI got wrapped up in his crimes too.


Hoover didn't want the FBI to go after the mob because he knew the mob would corrupt it, and h was right. The AG Kennedy forced him to, and almost immediately the mob corrupted the FBI.


wut?

the FBI was created to go after organized crime.

Bulger was an informant since his bankrobbing days (which he did time for on Alcatraz). The FBI became corrupt at the Boston Field Office because the FBI let Whitey's schoolroom classmate John Connolly run the Boston office. Connolly approached Whitey about turning over info on the Patriarca (Italians) family, who was the national objective. Whitey made Connolly feel like a rock star, and that was that.

The whole system was corrupt. Bulger's brother was the President Pro Tem of the Mass State legislature. Local cops were scared of both of them, and the state cops were vulnerable to Billy Bulger's political pressure.

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How did they get their hands on so many machine guns? Is there that many unazzounted for, or never made it to the registry?
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Prosecutor Kristyna S. Mills said her office prosecutes these types of cases “all the time”speaking of the prosecution of Sgt. Nathan Haddad, a decorated combat veteran, for possessing AR15 magazines
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Dude strangled a woman personally..for that alone he should die..dont care about the guns.
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Posted: 6/15/2013 6:26:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By twckxbzd:
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Originally Posted By brassburn:
MP-40's in the back?


3 Mp-40's, a cut-down M-1 Carbine, what appears to be am M-16A1, and i can';t make out what the supressed subgun is in the center


looks like an m3 aka grease gun






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Posted: 6/15/2013 6:35:49 PM EST
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Here are the guns found in Whitey's hideout in California.....

http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_162-10008574-1.html


So which is worth more, pic 2 or pic 6?

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Posted: 6/15/2013 7:09:16 PM EST
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How did they get their hands on so many machine guns? Is there that many unazzounted for, or never made it to the registry?


Most of the machine guns that existed in the USA ended up as contraband. Most people didn't have the money or the knowledge to register them, even during the short amnesty periods where registration was free.

Also, it was a much different time. Possession of an unregistered machine gun would result in confiscation, and a free gun for the PD at most. In 2013, things are much different despite the law being generally the same.

And they are still out there in large numbers. I've seen probably as many contraband MG's as legal ones.

As far as a lot of the gangland MG's and sound suppressors that are out there, a lot of them are illegal conversions of open bolt semis, some are built from parts kits from mob associated machine shops in back rooms and outside of business hours. The MP-40's here are probably genuine war bringbacks though. Whitey Bulger is old and so is his gang, and were probably in their possession for quite some time.


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Posted: 6/15/2013 7:33:16 PM EST
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And now the fucking government has their worthless paws on them.






As opposed to the murdering Irish mobster having his paws on them?
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Posted: 6/16/2013 11:05:13 AM EST
Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Originally Posted By raven:

Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Originally Posted By LibertarianYankee:
At least Bulger wasn't a fucking carteller.

Why does the FBI even waste time with the old world mobsters these days? With so many bigger fish to fry?


Bulger was a monster dude.

The only reason that this has gone on this long is because the FBI got wrapped up in his crimes too.


Hoover didn't want the FBI to go after the mob because he knew the mob would corrupt it, and h was right. The AG Kennedy forced him to, and almost immediately the mob corrupted the FBI.


wut?

the FBI was created to go after organized crime.

Bulger was an informant since his bankrobbing days (which he did time for on Alcatraz). The FBI became corrupt at the Boston Field Office because the FBI let Whitey's schoolroom classmate John Connolly run the Boston office. Connolly approached Whitey about turning over info on the Patriarca (Italians) family, who was the national objective. Whitey made Connolly feel like a rock star, and that was that.

The whole system was corrupt. Bulger's brother was the President Pro Tem of the Mass State legislature. Local cops were scared of both of them, and the state cops were vulnerable to Billy Bulger's political pressure.



I saw a program last weekend about Bulger; his top hitman lived a couple houses away from Bulger's brother.
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Posted: 6/16/2013 12:54:12 PM EST
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Bulger had a bunch of cops working for him so gun laws were not a concern


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Posted: 6/16/2013 1:17:13 PM EST
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At least Bulger wasn't a fucking carteller.

Why does the FBI even waste time with the old world mobsters these days? With so many bigger fish to fry?


Bulger was a monster dude.

The only reason that this has gone on this long is because the FBI got wrapped up in his crimes too.


Hoover didn't want the FBI to go after the mob because he knew the mob would corrupt it, and h was right. The AG Kennedy forced him to, and almost immediately the mob corrupted the FBI.


wut?

the FBI was created to go after organized crime.

Bulger was an informant since his bankrobbing days (which he did time for on Alcatraz). The FBI became corrupt at the Boston Field Office because the FBI let Whitey's schoolroom classmate John Connolly run the Boston office. Connolly approached Whitey about turning over info on the Patriarca (Italians) family, who was the national objective. Whitey made Connolly feel like a rock star, and that was that.

The whole system was corrupt. Bulger's brother was the President Pro Tem of the Mass State legislature. Local cops were scared of both of them, and the state cops were vulnerable to Billy Bulger's political pressure.



I saw a program last weekend about Bulger; his top hitman lived a couple houses away from Bulger's brother.


And another brother was a court officer who lost his pension for lying about being in contact with Whitey.
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Posted: 6/16/2013 1:17:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By raven:

Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Originally Posted By LibertarianYankee:
At least Bulger wasn't a fucking carteller.

Why does the FBI even waste time with the old world mobsters these days? With so many bigger fish to fry?


Bulger was a monster dude.

The only reason that this has gone on this long is because the FBI got wrapped up in his crimes too.


Hoover didn't want the FBI to go after the mob because he knew the mob would corrupt it, and h was right. The AG Kennedy forced him to, and almost immediately the mob corrupted the FBI.


wut?

the FBI was created to go after organized crime.

Bulger was an informant since his bankrobbing days (which he did time for on Alcatraz). The FBI became corrupt at the Boston Field Office because the FBI let Whitey's schoolroom classmate John Connolly run the Boston office. Connolly approached Whitey about turning over info on the Patriarca (Italians) family, who was the national objective. Whitey made Connolly feel like a rock star, and that was that.

The whole system was corrupt. Bulger's brother was the President Pro Tem of the Mass State legislature. Local cops were scared of both of them, and the state cops were vulnerable to Billy Bulger's political pressure.



I saw a program last weekend about Bulger; his top hitman lived a couple houses away from Bulger's brother.


And another brother was a court officer who lost his pension for lying about being in contact with Whitey.
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