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Posted: 5/5/2013 7:40:27 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/5/2013 7:40:27 AM EST by Lancelot]
Just like the thread title says, what makes a Tier 1 rifle a Tier 1?

Is this just gun snob nomenclature?

I have 3 AR rifles: a factory built Daniel Defense, a PSA build & and a Spikes build.

Other than the finish they all function the same.

Tell me about Tier 1 versus Tier 2, 3, etc.
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 6:36:37 AM EST


Link Posted: 5/5/2013 6:37:16 AM EST
Materials, testing, and quality control
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 6:42:58 AM EST
Gun snob nomenclature.
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 6:54:43 AM EST
Tier 1- the big boys

Tier 2- the unknowns

Tier 3- Vulcan/Hesse/Blackthorne/or what ever new name they come up with.

General rule of thumb- avoid the third option.

IBTMGD
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 7:09:16 AM EST
The person pulling the trigger.
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 7:14:30 AM EST
Opinion
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 7:17:46 AM EST
Materials
Thorough testing
Quality control
Customer service
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 7:28:14 AM EST
Flavor of the week.
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 7:28:31 AM EST
Originally Posted By denverdan:
The person pulling the trigger.


+1
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 7:31:36 AM EST
It must be a 3 letter acronym.....

BCM
LMT
PSA
KAC

you get the point.
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 7:34:48 AM EST
Originally Posted By sigluvr:
It must be a 3 letter acronym.....

BCM
LMT
PSA
KAC

you get the point.


is noveske the one exception to that rule? what about daniel defense? they only have a 2 letter? lol
I'd say overall opinion.
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 7:43:15 AM EST
Originally Posted By fridge72:
Originally Posted By sigluvr:
It must be a 3 letter acronym.....

BCM
LMT
PSA
KAC

you get the point.


is noveske the one exception to that rule? what about daniel defense? they only have a 2 letter? lol
I'd say overall opinion.


And Larue, LOL. Silly analysis.
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 7:43:21 AM EST
Originally Posted By sigluvr:
It must be a 3 letter acronym.....

BCM
LMT
PSA
KAC

you get the point.


Christensen Arms?
LaRue?
Rainier?
CMMG?
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 7:50:43 AM EST
Parkerizing under the FSB

duhh
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 7:51:31 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/5/2013 7:54:05 AM EST by LashLaRue]
Self justification for purchasing.








Link Posted: 5/5/2013 7:52:20 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/5/2013 7:59:29 AM EST by Paul]
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 7:54:19 AM EST
I did not know Pier one sold guns , maybe some bamboo ?

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Link Posted: 5/5/2013 7:55:01 AM EST
Slick advertising
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 7:55:31 AM EST
The roll mark, obviously.
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 7:56:52 AM EST
If I build it and sell It it's Tier 1, duh

T
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 7:57:05 AM EST
All my shit in Beer 1. The more I drink the more badass it gets.
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 7:58:41 AM EST
I'm sure this will still catch some flak but how about a manufacturer that has won a contract to supply the government/military with a product that has gone through major testing, evaluation and analysis?
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 7:58:50 AM EST


As I've said on Arfcom before:

Tier 1 = What I own
Tier 2 = What my friends own
Tier 3 = What the rest of you own


Link Posted: 5/5/2013 7:59:26 AM EST
You have to get all foamy at the mouth and scream "MIDLENGTH!!!!"
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:00:28 AM EST
Originally Posted By Stan08:
I'm sure this will still catch some flak but how about a manufacturer that has won a contract to supply the government/military with a product that has gone through major testing, evaluation and analysis?


If contracts weren't usually won by the lowest bidder, that'd be feasible.
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:01:44 AM EST
Originally Posted By Stan08:
I'm sure this will still catch some flak but how about a manufacturer that has won a contract to supply the government/military with a product that has gone through major testing, evaluation and analysis?


Yeah, but we can't get a complete FN AR15.

I love my horsey rollmark, but I'd run a busload of schoolchildren into a river for an FN.
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:02:14 AM EST
Originally Posted By 45ProCarry:
Materials
Thorough testing
Quality control
Customer service


What does this make a SMLE, M98/96 etc, most Mannlichers, a US made Mosin Nagant.........?

Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:05:54 AM EST
The list, it is all about the list.
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:06:52 AM EST
You can only shoot a Tier 1 rifle if its got lots of tactical stuff on it and you're wearing your tactical beard.
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:08:28 AM EST
Originally Posted By denverdan:
The person pulling the trigger.


This. A guy with the right training, mindset and experience is deadly even with a single shot .22.
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:08:40 AM EST
Originally Posted By Slateman:
You can only shoot a Tier 1 rifle if its got lots of tactical stuff on it and you're wearing your tactical beard.


The beard. It's all about the beard.
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:09:04 AM EST
Originally Posted By 2K12SS:
The list, it is all about the list.


Isn't there a chart somewhere?
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:09:45 AM EST
The blood of your enemies as lubricant and a sling made of their skins
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:12:45 AM EST


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*Coming from someone that owns a Bushmaster and a couple of home builds*
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:13:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By Stan08:
I'm sure this will still catch some flak but how about a manufacturer that has won a contract to supply the government/military with a product that has gone through major testing, evaluation and analysis?

A first; I'm going to quote myself!

A subcontractor who produces parts for said named gov't contract may be of high enough quality that they decide to build whole rifles/carbines themselves and their quality reputation is transferred. Tier one is must be. LMT is one company I can think of off the top.
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:13:46 AM EST
Originally Posted By Booze:
Originally Posted By Stan08:
I'm sure this will still catch some flak but how about a manufacturer that has won a contract to supply the government/military with a product that has gone through major testing, evaluation and analysis?


Yeah, but we can't get a complete FN AR15.

I love my horsey rollmark, but I'd run a busload of schoolchildren into a river for an FN.


buy a PSA
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:15:01 AM EST
tier 1: what makes you feel good
tier 2: what you feel indifferent about
tier 3: what you hate

Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:19:54 AM EST
Larue
Noveske
Daniel Defense
BCM
Colt

In that order. Fuck the rest...
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:23:26 AM EST
Just say tier 1 a lot and dress all tacktickle oh and make sure your rifle has lots of doodads on it. It also had to be purchased here.



Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:24:04 AM EST
I have a tier 1 stevens shotgun too!
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:24:33 AM EST
Price

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Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:25:01 AM EST
Before I even clicked on this thread I was going to say "Snobs".

OP you answered your own question.
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:25:25 AM EST
There is a direct correlation between tierness and the number of adjectives used in the name of said-weapon. Bonus points for celebrity tie-ins.

E.G.: "Extreme, Tactical, Spec-Ops, Joe Bob Smith Limited Edition Death Dealer Precision CQB Carbine."
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:25:36 AM EST
Originally Posted By Sharpshooter:
Just say tier 1 a lot and dress all tacktickle oh and make sure your rifle has lots of doodads on it. It also had to be purchased here.

http://www.tieroneguns.com/images/storefront.png



I see a rainbow in that picture. Are you trying to say that store ISN'T magical?

Tier one, primers made of unicorn farts...
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:25:42 AM EST
Originally Posted By denverdan:
The person pulling the trigger.


this
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:26:54 AM EST
Red Jacket builds Tier 1 AR's for the boys down range in the sandbox.



FYI: Tier rating is based on the number of non-factory upgrades/accessories you are running on the rifle. However, if you upgrade/accessorize too much, it will lower the Tier rating. Also, the Tier rating is directly proportional to the amount of money spent on said rifle. If you buy a brand new ACOG and pay retail, it will increase the rating. If you buy a used ACOG for a heavily discounted price, then the Tier rating will not be affected unless it can be proven that an actual Tier 1 operator ran on his rifle.
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:33:23 AM EST
Right now tier 1 is a case of '13 ammo.







Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:34:05 AM EST
one word, "run"
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:35:54 AM EST
A laser
Link Posted: 5/5/2013 8:37:05 AM EST
Must be used by marsoc sf ranger devgru pj delta force recon sad spetnaz secret squirels.. Must be able too shoot 2" groups at 3 miles have 2million rd barrel life, shoot bad guys my telepathy..



Honestly, quality parts with great qc..

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