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Posted: 4/6/2013 7:29:21 AM EDT
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All of that crap was in place when I got here.
Time to stand up. |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 7:29:49 AM EDT
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I believe the phrase "The straw which broke the camel's back." will explain the attitude of many.
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Posted: 4/6/2013 7:32:16 AM EDT
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Quoted: All of that crap was in place when I got here. Time to stand up. This  |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 7:32:18 AM EDT
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We've been over this.
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Posted: 4/6/2013 7:32:42 AM EDT
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All of that crap was in place when I got here. Time to stand up. I can see that, but I don't agree. Just because it's already in place doesn't mean that it's right, or that it should be obeyed. I've seen a lot of posts here villainizing people that've got busted for "illegal MGs", yet when the AW ban comes up, it's "from my cold dead hands". My point is: none of these restrictions are acceptable, and all should be disobeyed. |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 7:35:48 AM EDT
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I think you would be surprised by the number of people who have total disregard for the NFA and 922r type rules. Lurk the gun pictures on instagram, for instance, you'll see plenty of AR and AK pistols with foregrips, or go to a public range on the weekend, you'll see SKSs with extended magazines not in 922r compliance, etc.
I remember trying to explain 922r to a friend with an SKS, he could not wrap his head around it, and finally said something along the lines of "well I guess I'll deal with it if I get arrested". |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 7:36:23 AM EDT
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All of that crap was in place when I got here. Time to stand up. I can see that, but I don't agree. Just because it's already in place doesn't mean that it's right, or that it should be obeyed. I've seen a lot of posts here villainizing people that've got busted for "illegal MGs", yet when the AW ban comes up, it's "from my cold dead hands". My point is: none of these restrictions are acceptable, and all should be disobeyed. It's hard to go back and fix those issues. They are trying to make it more palatable by grandfathering etc...what about our kids and future Americans? We going to give up their rights? Fuck that....Come and Take It. |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 7:37:29 AM EDT
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Me either, OBEY!
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Posted: 4/6/2013 7:37:33 AM EDT
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All of that crap was in place when I got here. Time to stand up. This is my line of thought. |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 7:39:11 AM EDT
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For a lot of us, well, we weren't even a thought in our father's nether parts when the NFA went into effect. or even our Grandfather's nether parts for that matter.
Most major gun control laws were passed before I was born. The only major ones that were enacted in my life with the FOPA of '86 (MG ban) and the AWB in 94, but both of those were when I was a kid or not yet an adult, and not into guns. Dad was .mil, but never had a gun at home. I wasn't all that politically aware until I got into my 20s, and it was owning guns that was the catalyst for the formation of my political view points. I am glad I live in a state that seems to retain a good degree of sanity on the issue, but I fear even Texas could slide more toward the left what with the migrants, both from the south and the west. |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 7:40:37 AM EDT
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I encourage all "non compliants" behind friendly lines to gear up and move out.
I know theres a lot of you, and now is the time to put your words to the test, lets see if you got what it takes. Move to CT and vote red. Comply or dont when you get here, I dont care. But we need reinforcements and now. |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 7:40:51 AM EDT
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nevermind
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Posted: 4/6/2013 7:43:11 AM EDT
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Those who have actually reached that breaking point are not going to be crowing about it on the internet.
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Posted: 4/6/2013 7:45:12 AM EDT
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I think a lot of people expect a martial law type scenario where feds or blue hats go door to door to take guns away. That will be their line in the sand. Nobody wants to be the first guy, or an isolated incident. They are waiting for stuff to pop off on a major, wide spread scale. Thing is.... That day may never come.
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Posted: 4/6/2013 7:46:32 AM EDT
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I could quote Popeye.
Why does any one rebel? A wrong is being pushed and pushed on you, as a free person. Isn't that why and how our Nation was born? |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 7:46:53 AM EDT
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Quoted: We've been over this. Hundreds of times  Why , in this day and age , with all the search-bots and monitoring alphabet agencies looking for key words and phrases on boards like this , would ANYONE in their right mind OPENLY admit to breaking laws that have been on the books for decades  What makes you think for a second that there arent thousands of folks out there that dont own sawed off shotguns , SBR's , converted full-autos and home-built suppressors Not to mention that it's a huge COC violation here |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 7:48:58 AM EDT
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I encourage all "non compliants" behind friendly lines to gear up and move out. I know theres a lot of you, and now is the time to put your words to the test, lets see if you got what it takes. Move to CT and vote red. Comply or dont when you get here, I dont care. But we need reinforcements and now. I see it differently, we need to shore up our ranks in Florida, Texas, Virginia, etc. Conservatives in blue states should be moving to such states. That would be the strategic thing. |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 7:50:37 AM EDT
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97% posturing = roughly 70,000000
3% fighting = roughly 210,000 Conservative estimates. |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 7:51:59 AM EDT
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My grandparents were babies when NFA was enacted. Can't help there.
My parents were children when GCA 1968 was enacted. Can't help there either. I was a child when GCA 1986 was enacted. I left a nasty deuce in my diaper in protest. I am in my prime this time around...so this is my generations 2A battle. |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 7:52:24 AM EDT
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Because when tyranny becomes law, resistance becomes duty, that's why.
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Posted: 4/6/2013 7:56:35 AM EDT
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The interwebs. What a wonderful thing Al Gore has wrought!
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Posted: 4/6/2013 7:57:14 AM EDT
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Because I wasn't old enough to vote or own guns before the '94 AWB. This is the first real attempt at gun control on my watch. Also, although I am philosophically opposed to any regulation of private arms, previous bills were actually somewhat "reasonable" in the sense that they did little to INFRINGE on the ability of a person to arm themselves.
Oh, and for the record, I have no intention of obeying ANY laws. If these any legislation passes that makes me a criminal, I'll happily chop my shotgun as short as I like and build a dozen pop bottle .22lr silencers. I'll also cheat on taxes and violate any other laws I feel like breaking. I'm not personally inclined to hurt people or steal but otherwise, if they want to make a criminal of me, I'll act like a crook. |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:02:24 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:03:26 AM EDT
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th e public is already used to nfa being restricted and or illegal. you wont have public support owning them without permission. there is just nocommon enough. we can always fight to epeal rhat shit if we ever get enough support. the common "assault rifle" however ,is very commontens of millions of people own them. this makes it realistic to stand your ground. earlier generations made those laws and i dont intend to leave my kid with less rights than i enjoy.
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:03:57 AM EDT
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I encourage all "non compliants" behind friendly lines to gear up and move out. I know theres a lot of you, and now is the time to put your words to the test, lets see if you got what it takes. Move to CT and vote red. Comply or dont when you get here, I dont care. But we need reinforcements and now. I see it differently, we need to shore up our ranks in Florida, Texas, Virginia, etc. Conservatives in blue states should be moving to such states. That would be the strategic thing. No war was ever won in a perpetual state of retreat. What are three states going to do, when the other 47 are blue? Nothing, they are going to die to. The initiative is to advance on the enemy, while we still have the forces. But it will never happen. THAT, would be the strategic thing. |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:04:15 AM EDT
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All of that crap was in place when I got here. Time to stand up. I can see that, but I don't agree. Just because it's already in place doesn't mean that it's right, or that it should be obeyed. I've seen a lot of posts here villainizing people that've got busted for "illegal MGs", yet when the AW ban comes up, it's "from my cold dead hands". My point is: none of these restrictions are acceptable, and all should be disobeyed. Going to war is a very serious, yet personal decision. You seem to have made yours. I wish you well. I keep not reading about you in the news, though. It's possible you're doing something wrong. |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:05:16 AM EDT
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All of that crap was in place when I got here. Time to stand up. This. Thank you for your service. We need more law enforcement like you, that stands up for civilian's rights. |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:07:45 AM EDT
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All of that crap was in place when I got here. Time to stand up. I can see that, but I don't agree. Just because it's already in place doesn't mean that it's right, or that it should be obeyed. I've seen a lot of posts here villainizing people that've got busted for "illegal MGs", yet when the AW ban comes up, it's "from my cold dead hands". My point is: none of these restrictions are acceptable, and all should be disobeyed. Going to war is a very serious, yet personal decision. You seem to have made yours. I wish you well. I keep not reading about you in the news, though. It's possible you're doing something wrong. I think it's going to come down where people either band together and fight for their rights and go after the people doing the confiscation of rights, or we just herd in the corral like good cattle. However you're very right about War and personal decisions, about where you stand. It's like the old saying "Once you pull the trigger, you can't stuff that bullet back inside the gun after it goes off." or something along those lines. |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:08:41 AM EDT
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All of that crap was in place when I got here. Time to stand up. I can see that, but I don't agree. Just because it's already in place doesn't mean that it's right, or that it should be obeyed. I've seen a lot of posts here villainizing people that've got busted for "illegal MGs", yet when the AW ban comes up, it's "from my cold dead hands". My point is: none of these restrictions are acceptable, and all should be disobeyed. I would suspect that those posts are from two different groups of people. I think it's dumb to violate existing regulations because, except for machine guns, there really isn't anything that I want that I can't get through some sort of hoops. I don't want to go to jail so I don't break the existing laws. I don't believe it to be morally wrong to make a short barreled rifle or machine gun and I wouldn't rat someone out. As I mentioned, if a new ban passes (and perhaps if universal background check passes) I will no longer feel compelled to comply with any laws. |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:08:52 AM EDT
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All of that crap was in place when I got here. Time to stand up. +1 Plus, I had a boating accident the other day. |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:09:18 AM EDT
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No war was ever won in a perpetual state of retreat. What are three states going to do, when the other 47 are blue? Nothing, they are going to die to. The initiative is to advance on the enemy, while we still have the forces. But it will never happen. THAT, would be the strategic thing. CT, CO, MD and NY are lost. Only hope is the courts strike it down. |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:09:41 AM EDT
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The line in the sand is drawn at the time you state that you will not comply with any FURTHER restrictions.
For me, that was as soon as I realized that the Sandy Hook shootings would result in a push for more gun control. |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:10:57 AM EDT
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"Will not comply folks"?
I prefer to be labeled as Socially conservative. Than you very much
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:14:29 AM EDT
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Why is this the line in the sand for you? It's such an infringement, but is the NFA and GCA also not? I just don't understand the "will not comply" mentality to all these new laws, yet fear and strict obedience to other, more sever restrictions such as NFA and GCA. If you're not going to comply with the new laws, why comply with ones already on the books? IMO, M16's > AR15's Help me understand this. FWIW, I don't believe any of it should be complied with. Passive Aggressive behavior will make them feel as if they are actually doing something......cause it will really show those progressives.
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:17:38 AM EDT
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Why is this the line in the sand for you? It's such an infringement, but is the NFA and GCA also not? I just don't understand the "will not comply" mentality to all these new laws, yet fear and strict obedience to other, more sever restrictions such as NFA and GCA. If you're not going to comply with the new laws, why comply with ones already on the books? IMO, M16's > AR15's Help me understand this. FWIW, I don't believe any of it should be complied with. Passive Aggressive behavior will make them feel as if they are actually doing something......cause it will really show those progressives. We are waiting for you to grab the pitch fork and lead us! |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:17:59 AM EDT
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All of that crap was in place when I got here. Time to stand up. I can see that, but I don't agree. Just because it's already in place doesn't mean that it's right, or that it should be obeyed. I've seen a lot of posts here villainizing people that've got busted for "illegal MGs", yet when the AW ban comes up, it's "from my cold dead hands". My point is: none of these restrictions are acceptable, and all should be disobeyed. I wasn't around to fight the NFA,GCA,Hughes Amendment or was of age to Bush 41s import ban. The 93 AWB was the first time my toes were stepped on but there simply wasn't the awareness or ability to mount opposition as there is now. We can see that these new laws have NOTHING to do with safety,only control and further trampling of our RKBA. |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:18:57 AM EDT
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Quoted: Only hope is the courts strike it down. What are the odds of that happening ? I mean . . . realistically ? I cant help but think of DC and how Heller couldnt even legally accept the pistol we all threw in on after the SC ruled in our favor  These fuckers will continue to do as they please , twisting , distorting , counter-ruling , and everything else to get their way , regardless of what the courts or constitution say. Fuck em . If they wont play by the rules , why in the polka-dotted fuck should we  Rebel and resist until we have retaken what was rightfully ours , fuck the socialist slags and their unconstitutional , bullshit ! |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:20:59 AM EDT
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No war was ever won in a perpetual state of retreat. What are three states going to do, when the other 47 are blue? Nothing, they are going to die to. The initiative is to advance on the enemy, while we still have the forces. But it will never happen. THAT, would be the strategic thing. CT, CO, MD and NY are lost. Only hope is the courts strike it down. Courts.  The "I will not comply" crowd is waiting on the courts.
I still have my guns. Im still in CT. Its not lost yet. Everyone moves out, then its lost for good. . . . You just keep waiting for the fight to come to you, and telling yourself it wont. Then we will see who complies. Then we will see how well retreat works. The enemy is thata way, so thats the way Im headed.
ETA: Did not mean to quote you, sorry. |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:22:50 AM EDT
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All of that crap was in place when I got here. Time to stand up. that and i dont know if MG's will stand up to the decision definition of "common" (more opinions please?) which is why i keep trying to get more people i know to buy suppressors |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:26:19 AM EDT
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Every gun law is illegal, background checks, NFA, everything, if everyone disobeyed they couldn't do anything about it
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:29:07 AM EDT
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I'll just sit over here and monitor this thread.
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:30:28 AM EDT
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I'll just sit over here and monitor this thread. Taking notes? Tell Holder I said hi. 
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:30:30 AM EDT
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There is the age issue for some, the laws were there before coming onto the scene. I suspect also that for many in regard to NFA, if they didn't have anything that qualified then they weren't that concerned. But the recent (and 94) legislation affects a much wider range of people.
It's kinda like the Fudds not minding another AWB or mag limits IMO. -JC |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:31:03 AM EDT
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For me, I was just a kid in the 80's and 90's. Hell, I did not even get into firearms until about 5 years ago. With that said, we have a unique situation right now, as I see it. While they are currently trying to obliterate our 2nd Amendment rights, at the same time, I am actively seeing our government become more tyrannical. This is just helping to reenforce the reason why our founding fathers added the 2nd Amendment. This is the only time in my life I have ever actually had the discussion with my wife and children about which side I am on and what that means if it comes to an armed resistance. The kicker? I have found that this same kind of talk is becoming more and more common with co-workers, friends, and the average person that I meet. The fact that the consideration of an armed rebellion against our government is becoming a more common topic for the average joe, just shows how bad things have gotten.
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:31:32 AM EDT
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Why is this the line in the sand for you? It's such an infringement, but is the NFA and GCA also not? I just don't understand the "will not comply" mentality to all these new laws, yet fear and strict obedience to other, more sever restrictions such as NFA and GCA. If you're not going to comply with the new laws, why comply with ones already on the books? IMO, M16's > AR15's Help me understand this. FWIW, I don't believe any of it should be complied with. Passive Aggressive behavior will make them feel as if they are actually doing something......cause it will really show those progressives. We are waiting for you to grab the pitch fork and lead us! no point in attacking me. I didn't set myself apart as being better than anyone. What i said is as true as anything on this site. People are impotent to do anything of substance to right the course of the country. Even if that were not the case, they are too comfortable with their circumstances to rock the boat, regardless of how much damage is being done to our country. |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:32:48 AM EDT
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Why is this the line in the sand for you? It's such an infringement, but is the NFA and GCA also not? I just don't understand the "will not comply" mentality to all these new laws, yet fear and strict obedience to other, more sever restrictions such as NFA and GCA. If you're not going to comply with the new laws, why comply with ones already on the books? IMO, M16's > AR15's Help me understand this. FWIW, I don't believe any of it should be complied with. You're making a lot of assumptions about people. I would guess there is a large percentage of members here and on similar boards that do not comply with NFA and other laws. It's just that it's not something that everyone agrees with, so they don't go spouting off about it. It's EASY to say you won't comply with as of yet non-existent laws. Wait until after they pass and see how many will post pictures of them not complying. FTR: I'll post pics. |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:37:17 AM EDT
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Why is this the line in the sand for you? It's such an infringement, but is the NFA and GCA also not? I just don't understand the "will not comply" mentality to all these new laws, yet fear and strict obedience to other, more sever restrictions such as NFA and GCA. If you're not going to comply with the new laws, why comply with ones already on the books? IMO, M16's > AR15's Help me understand this. FWIW, I don't believe any of it should be complied with. Passive Aggressive behavior will make them feel as if they are actually doing something......cause it will really show those progressives. We are waiting for you to grab the pitch fork and lead us! no point in attacking me. I didn't set myself apart as being better than anyone. What i said is as true as anything on this site. People are impotent to do anything of substance to right the course of the country. Even if that were not the case, they are too comfortable with their circumstances to rock the boat, regardless of how much damage is being done to our country. I am not attacking you but a leader must come forward . A lone gunman is labeled a white supremist or gangster or nut, take your pick. Watch the news there maybe people already standing up and saying they will not comply. The press wont call them patriots you can be sure of that. |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:37:35 AM EDT
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All of that crap was in place when I got here. Time to stand up. FPFNI (First Post Fucking Nails It) |
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:37:37 AM EDT
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We will "put-up-with" a lot of shit. We will put up with a lot of stupid politicians. We will put up with fucked-up vehicles. we will put up with over-taxation...for a while. You take my guns????? Come get them, caution...they are loaded
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Posted: 4/6/2013 8:39:44 AM EDT
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We've been over this. Hundreds of times
Why , in this day and age , with all the search-bots and monitoring alphabet agencies looking for key words and phrases on boards like this , would ANYONE in their right mind OPENLY admit to breaking laws that have been on the books for decades
What makes you think for a second that there arent thousands of folks out there that dont own sawed off shotguns , SBR's , converted full-autos and home-built suppressors
Not to mention that it's a huge COC violation here
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