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Link Posted: 3/31/2013 7:14:39 AM EDT
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Most businesses in Cyprus will fail in 2 weeks. No payroll, no ability to pay bills. I read where one pig Farmer has resorted to feeding his pigs with pigs (cannibalism) because he is limited to the purchase of 1 ton of grain a day.

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Yep.  And... that is the situation we should all be prepared to face here one day.

The politicians are willing to drive this country over the cliff rather than cut one fucking entitlement.. or one govt. program.  It won't change until we get to the point Cyprus is at ( or will be soon enough )  Their own skin is more important that what the country needs to do.  They all know what they're supposed to do here... they'd just rather get elected than do the right thing... We all know it and they know it too.

If you really want to see a cluster fuck, wait until we enter a crisis and the politicians start voting on how to fix it....  doing the right thing has nothing to do with how we solve a crisis... it's all about political will.... We're simply fucked.

Bankers and corporations rule this country.... the politicians simply do what they want about 99% of the time... doesn't matter if they're republican or democrat.... they both just have different friends but, both parties cater to the big banks.

Link Posted: 3/31/2013 7:15:08 AM EDT
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I bet its only a matter of time before we see that occurring here in the US...not with savings accounts though (unless they are over the insured amount), but with all those 401k plans that smart people have been stashing their money into.


The US can just print more money where Cyprus doesn't have that option. That's not saying pensions can't be raided as history has shown but this particular issue is unique to the EU.


The U.S. can and is printing money and, you're right, that isn't an option for Cyprus... But, it also wasn't an option for Cyprus to not buy those junk Greek bonds that went tits up and left the banks in a bad spot.  The EU is an incestuous (sp?) pos where all the countries are obligated to buy all the other countries junk bonds....    The small  players don't stand a chance against the large players and, they're all obligated to Germany now.  Look at how they're dictating terms...



Yes exactly right. It was either the Germans or the Russians. Clusterfuck from the start. Germans are going to own Europe after this us all over.
Link Posted: 3/31/2013 7:15:39 AM EDT
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The politicians in just about every Western country have already broken the social contract by using the general revenues as a re-election slush fund.

Why is it such a stretch to think they would use a bank crisis to steal private funds?

So, you think they still have ANY ethical standards?

TC
Link Posted: 3/31/2013 7:17:17 AM EDT
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Anyone who has a million bucks in cash in a savings account deserves to have it taken away.




This 13'r is a special kind of stupid.

<--------------------------------DU is that way!


That's ok 09'r. You go ahead and leave all your million dollars in one account at one bank. Good luck with that and Happy Easter to you my brother.


Tell me, how much money do you personally manage at your company?

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Link Posted: 3/31/2013 7:21:25 AM EDT
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Anyone who has a million bucks in cash in a savings account deserves to have it taken away.




This 13'r is a special kind of stupid.

<--------------------------------DU is that way!


That's ok 09'r. You go ahead and leave all your million dollars in one account at one bank. Good luck with that and Happy Easter to you my brother.


Tell me, how much money do you personally manage at your company?

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BS.

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Link Posted: 3/31/2013 7:29:57 AM EDT
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I can see several things happening:

People will go back to burying cash in Mason jars and stuffing mattresses.
All of the Cypriot banks will fail due to lack of deposits.
An underground, cash-only economy will bloom.
The Russian mafai will whack a few select politicians and bankers as an example for the rest.
Link Posted: 3/31/2013 7:30:34 AM EDT
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Anyone who has a million bucks in cash in a savings account deserves to have it taken away.


Look, A 13'r.


Your point being?


My dog makes more sense when she yowls.
Link Posted: 3/31/2013 7:32:18 AM EDT
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I can see several things happening:

People will go back to burying cash in Mason jars and stuffing mattresses.
All of the Cypriot banks will fail due to lack of deposits.
An underground, cash-only economy will bloom.
The Russian mafai will whack a few select politicians and bankers as an example for the rest.


I predict most of what you just said will happen...  after which Cyprus will be force out of the euro.  This was only a band aid to begin with.... they'll need more help.... much more.  Not sure about the Russians... they were able to get their money out already.

Link Posted: 3/31/2013 7:32:58 AM EDT
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Anyone who has a million bucks in cash in a savings account deserves to have it taken away.




This 13'r is a special kind of stupid.

<--------------------------------DU is that way!


That's ok 09'r. You go ahead and leave all your million dollars in one account at one bank. Good luck with that and Happy Easter to you my brother.


Tell me, how much money do you personally manage at your company?

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If you ran a medium sized company, you'd realize having 20 or 30 accounts to be under FDIC limits would be absolutely retarded.

But, you don't. Most likely your mom does all your money management and you survive on an allowance.

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Link Posted: 3/31/2013 7:35:05 AM EDT
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You know they're lookin at your 401k's the same way...

Link Posted: 3/31/2013 7:35:48 AM EDT
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I can see several things happening:

People will go back to burying cash in Mason jars and stuffing mattresses.
All of the Cypriot banks will fail due to lack of deposits.
An underground, cash-only economy will bloom.
The Russian mafai will whack a few select politicians and bankers as an example for the rest.


I think Cyprus was an experiment. Italy and Spain will be the real test of how fucked their system can get. And in the end Germany will bail them out. Ironic much?
Link Posted: 3/31/2013 7:39:06 AM EDT
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Anyone who has a million bucks in cash in a savings account deserves to have it taken away.




This 13'r is a special kind of stupid.

<--------------------------------DU is that way!


That's ok 09'r. You go ahead and leave all your million dollars in one account at one bank. Good luck with that and Happy Easter to you my brother.


Tell me, how much money do you personally manage at your company?

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If you ran a medium sized company, you'd realize having 20 or 30 accounts to be under FDIC limits would be absolutely retarded.

But, you don't. Most likely your mom does all your money management and you survive on an allowance.

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I heart mom. God bless her soul.
Link Posted: 3/31/2013 7:39:24 AM EDT
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I can see several things happening:

People will go back to burying cash in Mason jars and stuffing mattresses.
All of the Cypriot banks will fail due to lack of deposits.
An underground, cash-only economy will bloom.
The Russian mafai will whack a few select politicians and bankers as an example for the rest.


I think Cyprus was an experiment. Italy and Spain will be the real test of how fucked their system can get. And in the end Germany will bail them out. Ironic much?


I wonder if that's true... there isn't much political will for Germany to bail anyone else out... Merkel has an election coming up... that's why Cyprus was treated so harshly, IMHO... it obviously wasn't about the money.

We may see some break away countries soon.  I don't see how Cyprus, Italy and Spain can stay.... otherwise, why would Germany?  5 of the countries in the EU have already needed bailouts.  It's really starting to come apart now.

Link Posted: 3/31/2013 7:43:05 AM EDT
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Anyone who has a million bucks in cash in a savings account deserves to have it taken away.




This 13'r is a special kind of stupid.

<--------------------------------DU is that way!


That's ok 09'r. You go ahead and leave all your million dollars in one account at one bank. Good luck with that and Happy Easter to you my brother.


Tell me, how much money do you personally manage at your company?

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If you ran a medium sized company, you'd realize having 20 or 30 accounts to be under FDIC limits would be absolutely retarded.

But, you don't. Most likely your mom does all your money management and you survive on an allowance.

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Link Posted: 3/31/2013 7:44:29 AM EDT
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I can see several things happening:

People will go back to burying cash in Mason jars and stuffing mattresses.
All of the Cypriot banks will fail due to lack of deposits.
An underground, cash-only economy will bloom.
The Russian mafai will whack a few select politicians and bankers as an example for the rest.


I think Cyprus was an experiment. Italy and Spain will be the real test of how fucked their system can get. And in the end Germany will bail them out. Ironic much?


I wonder if that's true... there isn't much political will for Germany to bail anyone else out... Merkel has an election coming up... that's why Cyprus was treated so harshly, IMHO... it obviously wasn't about the money.

We may see some break away countries soon.  I don't see how Cyprus, Italy and Spain can stay.... otherwise, why would Germany?  5 of the countries in the EU have already needed bailouts.  It's really starting to come apart now.



I see your point but they have so much invested already that unwinding this thing will bury them. Sort of  "too big to fail" on a bigger scale. Cyprus and Greece are pretty irrelevent but Italy and Spain could bring the whole house of cards down.
Link Posted: 3/31/2013 7:46:27 AM EDT
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I can see several things happening:

People will go back to burying cash in Mason jars and stuffing mattresses.
All of the Cypriot banks will fail due to lack of deposits.
An underground, cash-only economy will bloom.
The Russian mafai will whack a few select politicians and bankers as an example for the rest.


I think Cyprus was an experiment. Italy and Spain will be the real test of how fucked their system can get. And in the end Germany will bail them out. Ironic much?


I wonder if that's true... there isn't much political will for Germany to bail anyone else out... Merkel has an election coming up... that's why Cyprus was treated so harshly, IMHO... it obviously wasn't about the money.

We may see some break away countries soon.  I don't see how Cyprus, Italy and Spain can stay.... otherwise, why would Germany?  5 of the countries in the EU have already needed bailouts.  It's really starting to come apart now.



Slovenia
Spain
Italy
Portugal
Greece
Cyprus
Ireland


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Link Posted: 3/31/2013 8:05:47 AM EDT
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Needs submitted to"there I fixed it .com" failblog
http://failblog.cheezburger.com/thereifixedit/page/2


 
Link Posted: 3/31/2013 8:22:07 AM EDT
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Slovenia
Spain
Italy
Portugal
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Yep.. that's a better list of troubled countries...  AND when they all start to tumble, look for the rest to go too..

Germany isn't in that good a shape... they're just the best looking horse at the glue factory ( or meat factory ... there, I fixed it myself ) at the moment.

Link Posted: 3/31/2013 8:45:51 AM EDT
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If you ran a medium sized company, you'd realize having 20 or 30 accounts to be under FDIC limits would be absolutely retarded.

But, you don't. Most likely your mom does all your money management and you survive on an allowance.]


competently crushed by an crusty ol' timer.  

ar-jedi
Link Posted: 3/31/2013 8:50:55 AM EDT
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last transaction 06/03/2013


That is Euro for 03/06/2013. They do shit backwards.
Link Posted: 3/31/2013 8:51:27 AM EDT
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Proper cash management is not stupid. In the US FDIC insures deposits up to $250k so why would you have more than that in any single account/institution? I'm not familiar with Cypriot banking laws but I don't imagine they have that sort of protection. I was being facetious in my comment. Obviously no one deserves to have anything taken from them but stupid is leaving that kind of money unprotected. Unless that amount means nothing to you because you are mega rich.

http://cyprusbank.org.ua/index/0-8
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http://cyprusbank.org.ua/index/0-4

Note: The Regulations on the Establishment and Operation of the Deposit Protection Scheme have been amended on 24 July 2009, in accordance with which the following changes were introduced:

- The maximum amount of compensation per depositor per bank has increased from €20.000 to €100.000

- All currencies of deposits are now covered whereas before only the currencies of member states of the EU were covered

- The coinsurance has been abolished and, therefore, claims up to €100.000 are fully reimbursed (whereas before only 90% of the claims was covered)

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In accordance with the Regulations on the Establishment and Operation of the Deposit Protection Scheme (DPS) issued under article 34(2) of the Banking Law of 1997, as subsequently amended, a Deposit Protection Fund (DPF) has been established and is in operation since September 2000. The DPF is a separate legal entity administered by a Management Committee.

The purpose of the DPS is to provide protection and pay compensation to depositors in case a member bank is unable to repay the deposits of its customers.

The DPS covers deposits denominated in all currencies. Participation is compulsory for all the banks licensed by the Central Bank of Cyprus (i.e. banks incorporated in Cyprus as well as Cyprus branches of foreign banks incorporated outside the European Union) which accept deposits from the general public including, in the case of banks incorporated in Cyprus, their branches operating in other European Union countries. The DPF’s Management Committee may exempt a Cyprus branch of a foreign bank incorporated outside the European Union from joining the Cyprus DPS provided that it is covered by an equivalent DPS in its country of origin.

The deposits of the European Union branches operating in Cyprus are covered, in accordance with the relevant directive of the European Union, by the corresponding DPS operating in their country of incorporation.

The DPS is activated if it is determined that a member bank is unable to repay its deposits, such a determination being made by the Central Bank of Cyprus or, in case of a member bank which is incorporated in a country other than Cyprus, the competent supervisory authority of the country where the bank is incorporated. The DPS may also be activated by a Court’s order for the liquidation of a member bank.

The maximum level of compensation, per depositor and per bank, under the DPS is €100.000. This limit applies to the aggregate of a depositor’s deposits with the same bank.

For the purposes of calculating the compensation paid to a depositor, the amounts of deposits will be set-off against any loans or other credit facilities granted by the depositor’s bank as well as any other counterclaim that the bank concerned may have against the depositor in respect of which a right of set-off exists.

In accordance with article 18 of the Regulations governing the operation of the DPS certain categories of deposits are exempted from the payment of compensation. (e.g. bank deposits held for own account, deposits by provident and pension funds, insurance companies, government departments, semi-government organisations and local authorities, deposits by collective investment companies etc.).

Should the DPS be activated, an announcement will be made in the Official Gazette of the Republic of Cyprus as well as in the daily press stating that the member bank is unable to repay its deposits and determining the way in which claims together with supporting documentary evidence should be submitted.

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If you ran a medium sized company, you'd realize having 20 or 30 accounts to be under FDIC limits would be absolutely retarded.

But, you don't. Most likely your mom does all your money management and you survive on an allowance.]


competently crushed by an crusty ol' timer.  

ar-jedi


Yep I'm devastated
Link Posted: 3/31/2013 8:55:02 AM EDT
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That is Euro for 03/06/2013. They do shit backwards.

it is not backwards.

the european date format makes much more sense, it is in tidy LSB->MSB order.  
the US .mil uses the same european-style format: "06 Mar 2013" = 06/03/2013.  

ar-jedi

Link Posted: 3/31/2013 8:57:04 AM EDT
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Its been tried time and time again, when will these over educated idiots figure out that socialism does not work.
Link Posted: 3/31/2013 9:07:49 AM EDT
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Its been tried time and time again, when will these over educated idiots figure out that socialism does not work.


My guess would be because, it's not about whether it works or not... it's about who it may benefit in the attempt.  Those that would have power, it benefits... those who would get free shit, vote for them.

Works great for unknown senators that grow up by communist parents, with communist friends... with communist preachers and whatnot.

Link Posted: 3/31/2013 9:15:16 AM EDT
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No fucking way did somebody with 850k euros in their account NOT get creative in draining that account in the last two weeks.  I call bullshit.
I wouldn't be surprised if 850k is probably the 'petty cash' they left in there after removing the bulk of it.





 
Link Posted: 3/31/2013 9:24:09 AM EDT
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Keep an eye on Luxembourg, their banking deposits are 22 times their GDP ( by comparison Cyprus was 8 times GDP). As soon as capital flight accelerates and the need for a bail out becomes clear,  the Euro zone wiil implode.
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Keep an eye on Luxembourg, their banking deposits are 22 times their GDP ( by comparison Cyprus was 8 times GDP). As soon as capital flight accelerates and the need for a bail out becomes clear,  the Euro zone wiil implode.


It's going to happen... it's only a matter of timing... when they go, our banks will be exposed too.....  I'm curious to see what will happen then....  we have a lot of derivitive exposure to France...after Italy and Spain... France is next.

I'm not sure anyone will allow the derivitives to be cashed in, however.  The board that decides what a credit event is are populated by the very banks that write the contracts..... that's why when Greece defaulted, it was "voluntary".  LOL  You just can't make this shit up.

Link Posted: 3/31/2013 10:32:44 AM EDT
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Anyone who has a million bucks in cash in a savings account deserves to have it taken away.


Congratulations, you have won the prestigious Stupidest Post on the Internet Award, and have succeeded in bringing the wrath of  ARFCOM upon all who joined in 2013.  Good job!
Link Posted: 3/31/2013 1:33:52 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/31/2013 1:41:55 PM EDT
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No, they aren't.  Unlike bank deposits, 401k's don't have any money in them, they are just shares of stocks, equity funds, and bonds.  There's no money to grab.



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Link Posted: 3/31/2013 1:42:16 PM EDT
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That is Euro for 03/06/2013. They do shit backwards.


it is not backwards.



the european date format makes much more sense, it is in tidy LSB->MSB order.  

the US .mil uses the same european-style format: "06 Mar 2013" = 06/03/2013.  



ar-jedi





Number and 3 letters makes sense..  numbers and numbers not so much,  at least for the first 12 days of the month.  



 
Link Posted: 3/31/2013 2:16:08 PM EDT
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Huh, maybe the guys who spend all their money immediately aren't all that dumb afterall.


When people start thinking that way, hyperinflation is right around the corner.

If you think seizure of bank funds is bad, wait until you see what hyperinflation does to accumulated wealth.  
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Anyone who has a million bucks in cash in a savings account deserves to have it taken away.

This 13'r is a special kind of stupid.



<--------------------------------DU is that way!




That's ok 09'r. You go ahead and leave all your million dollars in one account at one bank. Good luck with that and Happy Easter to you my brother.




Tell me, how much money do you personally manage at your company?



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I concur.



 
Link Posted: 3/31/2013 4:46:59 PM EDT
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Its been tried time and time again, when will these over educated idiots figure out that socialism does not work.

socialism is only part of the problem, and in this specific case of Cyprus it was a reason for their undoing -- but not the only reason.

more than a decade ago Cyprus decided the way forward was to be a "financial services center", in much the same way that Iceland tried (and failed at).   the government and industry did their parts, and the money flowed into the country.  meanwhile, they joined the eurozone; the side effect of this of course is that they gave away the very levers that allowed them to manage the supply of money in Cyprus itself.  now, as a little fish in a big pond, if there was not enough water to go around they had no way to independently do something about it.  this is the crux of the problem in most of the PIGS(-ish) countries right now.  the strong eurozone members don't want lower interest rates (which increases money supply and spurs economic activity albeit with attendant inflation), but the weak eurozone members are desperate for it.  as long as the strong (read: germany) control the money supply lever, the weaker, less productive countries will suffer.  imagine if mississippi, illinois, california, and new york state were independent nations yet all had the same currency.  ten years later new york would own mississippi (one way or the other), and california would own illinois.  

ar-jedi


Link Posted: 3/31/2013 7:50:29 PM EDT
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Anyone who has a million bucks in cash in a savings account deserves to have it taken away.






 
Link Posted: 3/31/2013 8:30:53 PM EDT
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That image was posted on Reddit's /r/Bitcoin late last week by someone claiming to own a small IT company in Europe. He was outside Cyprus, actually. I'll find reference and link it if I can.

ETA: Found it - it was on Bitcointalk.org, not Reddit.  Link to thread.
Link Posted: 3/31/2013 8:36:16 PM EDT
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That is Euro for 03/06/2013. They do shit backwards.

it is not backwards.

the european date format makes much more sense, it is in tidy LSB->MSB order.  
the US .mil uses the same european-style format: "06 Mar 2013" = 06/03/2013.  

ar-jedi



I agree with and am familiar with .mil notation.

But you forget, they also drive on the wrong side of the road , too. Backwards.
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last transaction 06/03/2013

That is Euro for 03/06/2013. They do shit backwards.

it is not backwards.

the european date format makes much more sense, it is in tidy LSB->MSB order.  
the US .mil uses the same european-style format: "06 Mar 2013" = 06/03/2013.  

ar-jedi



I agree with and am familiar with .mil notation.

But you forget, they also drive on the wrong side of the road , too. Backwards.


Working on computers all the time, I have developer two standard notations. Today's date in each would be: 2013-03-31; 31 Mar 2013

The first sorts properly in lists of files and such, and I use it for my own reference mostly. The second is unambiguous and doesn't depend on ordering, so I use it anytime I'm sending a written document.
Link Posted: 3/31/2013 8:53:45 PM EDT
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Anyone who has a million bucks in cash in a savings account deserves to have it taken away.


Unless you have a small business and have to use it to make payroll.   Maybe you just forgot the "/sarc"  ?

I think what we're going to see is most medium sized businesses there will go out of business overnight.



This.

Not uncommon for us to float $100k+ and we are a very, very small company.
Customer deposit for product ordering, payroll, tax payments etc. Comes and goes within a week or two.
Catch a business at the wrong moment with shit like this and it is lights out.

Then the lawsuits and possible prosecution for fraud start. I don't think "but the government took it" is going to fly as an excuse for why product/services were not delivered as promised.
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Keep an eye on Luxembourg, their banking deposits are 22 times their GDP ( by comparison Cyprus was 8 times GDP). As soon as capital flight accelerates and the need for a bail out becomes clear,  the Euro zone wiil implode.


It's going to happen... it's only a matter of timing... when they go, our banks will be exposed too.....  I'm curious to see what will happen then....  we have a lot of derivitive exposure to France...after Italy and Spain... France is next.

I'm not sure anyone will allow the derivitives to be cashed in, however.  The board that decides what a credit event is are populated by the very banks that write the contracts..... that's why when Greece defaulted, it was "voluntary".  LOL  You just can't make this shit up.



UN brokered "global bailout".
With the USA expected to shoulder 90% of the burden and have like 2% of the oversight.
Obama and the lefties would be all over it. The global version of "fair share"
Link Posted: 3/31/2013 9:02:27 PM EDT
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not good
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But you forget, they also drive on the wrong side of the road , too. Backwards.

"they" europeans do not all drive on the left side of the road -- in fact, it is only in the UK, and not continental europe.  
i have driven in italy, spain, portugal, germany, greece, and denmark -- all on the familiar-to-me right hand side.

that said, only about 2/3rds of the world uses right hand traffic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-_and_left-hand_traffic

ar-jedi

Link Posted: 3/31/2013 10:59:53 PM EDT
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I hear lots of people sayin I hope they don't try that shit here but everybody forgets they already have...anybody remember the "we have to put everybodies retirement funds in the stock market"  oh too bad we "lost" a shitload.


False. You can keep any 401k in a money market
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I hear lots of people sayin I hope they don't try that shit here but everybody forgets they already have...anybody remember the "we have to put everybodies retirement funds in the stock market"  oh too bad we "lost" a shitload.


False. You can keep any 401k in a money market
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UN brokered "global bailout".
With the USA expected to shoulder 90% of the burden and have like 2% of the oversight.
Obama and the lefties would be all over it. The global version of "fair share"


Yeah, that's possible.  Have helocopter Ben print more and paper over it.... make all defaults, "voluntary"... don't activate the derivitive bomb...  bail everyone out with dollars that become worth even less.  It weakens our currency more which is what Ben wants.  It helps us continue to borrow and spend and, it may work for a while longer.

The ONLY thing is that there will be a day when it will stop working.  We're already starting to lose reserve status.  When that happens the fat lady will be singing.  Our reserve status is what keeps us going for now.  We're still somehow seen as a safe haven but, that's only because even as bad as we are, they're worse.

Anything could happen though...  With so many countries and the way the political winds are blowing... the idiots in office could create something they can't control.... for example, what if all the countries in the EU do really get spooked and they all go on bank runs.... that may be a situation that simply can't be papered over etc.   Once the confidence is gone ( and I can't imagine there is much confidence left after the Cyprus event ), it's gone.  Sure, they can do capital controls but, that KILLs the economy of already zombie countries.... it's not like limiting bank withdrawls in a country with over 25% unemployment isn't going to make things much, much worse....  Close the markets, capital controls, ... then come the price fixing and in many cases currency devaluations... they're all just desperate measures by already dead political systems.

Link Posted: 4/1/2013 2:01:19 AM EDT
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I'd be finding a rifle and "unblocking" the rest of my money.


Fractional Reserve Banking.  They can't turn bits on the computer into physical money, and they don't have enough physical money on hand to pay out every account.  

Link Posted: 4/1/2013 2:42:51 AM EDT
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I'd be finding a rifle and "unblocking" the rest of my money.


Fractional Reserve Banking.  They can't turn bits on the computer into physical money, and they don't have enough physical money on hand to pay out every account.  



Yeah.  Don't they only have a 1% reserve requirement?  ( I read that somewhere but, I'm not sure it's true ).... if that is the case, then 99% of their cash is likely loaned out already....  I'm sure this will work out well.

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