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Posted: 2/9/2013 5:18:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/9/2013 5:23:08 PM EST by cm]
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D­isabled Marine rifles at inauguration signal shift in administration policy (Photos)


"Didn't know the Marines had to take the bolts out of their rifles for the Inaugural,” an email forwarded to Gun Rights Examiner from a United States Marine Corps source observed. "Wonder if someone can explain why [they] would be marching in the inaugural parade with no bolts in their rifles!”

The email linked to a YouTube video of the 57th Presidential Inaugural Parade, embedded in this column, featuring Bravo Company Marines from the Marine Barracks Washington. Sure enough, the observation in the email is confirmed by watching the video, with screen shots provided in the photo and slide show accompanying this article.

This prompted an internet search to see if others had also noticed, and the Blur-Brain blog had.

"The bolts have been removed from the rifles rendering them unable to fire a round,” the post stated. "Apparently Obama’s Secret Service doesn’t trust the USMC. Simply searching each guy to make sure he didn’t have a live round hidden on him wasn’t enough, they had to make sure the guns were inoperable.




http://www.examiner.com/article/disabled-marine-rifles-at-inauguration-signal-shift-administration-policy


photos, more information at the link.


tyrantical government showing their paranoia towards others except their privilaged inner circle, when they have to start disarming their own own country's services for fear of coups or supporter that uphold the constitution?


edit - can't seem to find any reports of this occuring at any other inaugural event

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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 6:53:00 PM EST
Not new at all, it happened under G.W. Bush, Clinton, G.H. Bush, and Reagan, and probably earlier. The Secret Service probably wishes they could disarm the cops as well...
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:01:54 PM EST



I'd say that the Secret Service pays attention.
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:02:35 PM EST
Ask Anwar Sadat how he feels about that.
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:03:14 PM EST
Originally Posted By LoneWolf545:
Not new at all, it happened under G.W. Bush, Clinton, G.H. Bush, and Reagan, and probably earlier. The Secret Service probably wishes they could disarm the cops as well...


Yup, did the same thing when W. came to Division review at Bragg.

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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:03:32 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:05:49 PM EST
I think it's from the White House poll on the gun free zone around the president. He took our advice.
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:06:02 PM EST
Not new.

Sorry to buzzkill your butthurt.
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:07:08 PM EST
When we went to Panama on a charter flight they made us take our bolt carriers out "just in case".
Then they told them to put the bolt carrier in our top left BDU shirt pocket.
Everybody promptly put them back in the rifles so they wouldn't get lost.
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:08:20 PM EST
While I normally appreciate Examiner articles, they are way off the mark if they think this has anything to do with the Obama admin.
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:09:33 PM EST
Originally Posted By L_JE:
While I normally appreciate Examiner articles, they are way off the mark if they think this has anything to do with the Obama admin.


Yup. There's plenty of stuff to bitch about regarding the Obama administration, this ain't one of them.
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:09:38 PM EST
this isn't new, and it makes sense. the fewer guns around the president not being carried by the secret service the easier their job is and the happier they are.
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:09:45 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:11:52 PM EST
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Not new.

Sorry to buzzkill your butthurt.


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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:11:58 PM EST
I find it hilariously ironic that part of the oath is to "defend the constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic", and therefore the Secret Service finds it necessary to disarm the people who took that oath. It's like they're acknowledging that he is indeed a threat to the constitution.
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:13:25 PM EST
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Ask Anwar Sadat how he feels about that.


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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:13:41 PM EST
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I find it hilariously ironic that part of the oath is to "defend the constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic", and therefore the Secret Service finds it necessary to disarm the people who took that oath. It's like they're acknowledging that he is indeed a threat to the constitution.


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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:14:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By LoneWolf545:
Not new at all, it happened under G.W. Bush, Clinton, G.H. Bush, and Reagan, and probably earlier. The Secret Service probably wishes they could disarm the cops as well...


Yup, did the same thing when W. came to Division review at Bragg.



Yup was there, 19000 disarmed paratroopers most fresh back from the surge and own commander showed his faith in us by making the bolts come out and springs be removed from mags all standing in formation for 3 hours in the sun trying not to pass out Bush was pres

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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:14:10 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:15:13 PM EST
Originally Posted By TXJoe:
They didn't have to do that with Bush I bet.


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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:16:57 PM EST
Did honor guard duty back in the 70s for Nixon in Hawaii same thing no bolts.
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:17:20 PM EST
Pretty much SOP. Secret Service gets nervous
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:17:38 PM EST
They just straight up took our rifles away in Afghanistan when Obama came to visit us. It's not a new thing. They also wouldn't let us leave until he left, and that took almost three hours.

See all the weapons around GWB when he went to visit Iraq?

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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:18:26 PM EST
... In an odd way, I'm kinda comfortable with this
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:24:30 PM EST
Originally Posted By LoneWolf545:
Not new at all, it happened under G.W. Bush, Clinton, G.H. Bush, and Reagan, and probably earlier. The Secret Service probably wishes they could disarm the cops as well...


This...

It's nothing new.
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:33:31 PM EST
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Makes inspection arms easier.



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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:34:04 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:39:47 PM EST
Originally Posted By Jarhead08:
Makes inspection arms easier.





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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:40:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By skytrooper01:
Originally Posted By Jarhead08:
Makes inspection arms easier.



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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:41:12 PM EST
What does the article say about the 2009 inauguration?
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:41:58 PM EST

Originally Posted By LoneWolf545:
Not new at all, it happened under G.W. Bush, Clinton, G.H. Bush, and Reagan, and probably earlier. The Secret Service probably wishes they could disarm the cops as well...

The army is not permitted to enter Rome. Only the Praetorian Guard may be armed in the presence of Caesar.

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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:45:24 PM EST
Originally Posted By hawaiinate:
this isn't new, and it makes sense. the fewer guns around the president not being carried by the secret service the easier their job is and the happier they are.


we had folks out cleaning their rifles when W came to visit. He didn't seem worried the least little bit.
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:46:45 PM EST
Does the secret service take the bolts and springs and what not out of their weapons too? What if one of their agents went rogue? I saw that movie GI Joe.
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:47:38 PM EST

Originally Posted By LoneWolf545:
Not new at all, it happened under G.W. Bush, Clinton, G.H. Bush, and Reagan, and probably earlier. The Secret Service probably wishes they could disarm the cops as well...

Some cops were disarmed. Our Honor Guard was in the parade. We had toy rifles and empty sidearms.

Total BS, I can be armed almost everywhere else in that town...and have been; even on the Capitol lawn when he was speaking at Law Enforcement Memorial Day, but noooo not in his parade.
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:48:07 PM EST
Clinton came to Lejeune while I was stationed there and not one single weapon was allowed out of the armories. Not for he Cpl of the guard or the officer of the day. All barracks had to have their blinds open. I don't hink the MPs were allowed to carry either.

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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:49:58 PM EST

Originally Posted By ShermiesRule:
Does the secret service take the bolts and springs and what not out of their weapons too? What if one of their agents went rogue? I saw that movie GI Joe.

I would ASSume that since USSS is tasked with protecting POTUS that...uhhh NO. The Protection Detail doesn't. But I'm just spit ballin here.
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:50:30 PM EST
They march and carry arms in symbolic defense of the president.

So what does it symbolize when the arms they carry are intentionally disabled?
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Clinton came to Lejeune while I was stationed there and not one single weapon was allowed out of the armories. Not for he Cpl of the guard or the officer of the day. All barracks had to have their blinds open. I don't hink the MPs were allowed to carry either.

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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 7:52:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By Capt-Planet:
They just straight up took our rifles away in Afghanistan when Obama came to visit us. It's not a new thing. They also wouldn't let us leave until he left, and that took almost three hours.

See all the weapons around GWB when he went to visit Iraq?

http://www.georgewbushlibrary.smu.edu/~/media/GWBL/Images/ThePresidentandFamily/ZoomImages/P36047-34.jpg


Consider what Hasan did at Ft. Hood.

Yeah... I don't really blame the secret service.

It only takes ONE deranged fuckhead.
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 8:00:37 PM EST
Historically having the military armed around civilian heads of state can end very badly. Just because no ambitious military officers have tried a coup de tat in the US doesn't mean it's impossible.
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 8:04:22 PM EST
If I was SS I'd disarm potential threats also. Because in the end, they have to dive in front of the man to protect him.
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They tried that shit in 05 when Bush went to a Nuclear plant.

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I'd say that the Secret Service pays attention.


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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 8:28:13 PM EST
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I find it hilariously ironic that part of the oath is to "defend the constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic", and therefore the Secret Service finds it necessary to disarm the people who took that oath. It's like they're acknowledging that he is indeed a threat to the constitution.
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 8:32:54 PM EST
An MP buddy of mine was stationed at ft Bragg and said they were tasked out for crowd control for either bush or Obama and they still carried ther M-9's but had no ammo for them. Pretty said when "they" don't trust soldiers enough to be around them with weapons
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 8:39:17 PM EST
Originally Posted By Capt-Planet:
They just straight up took our rifles away in Afghanistan when Obama came to visit us. It's not a new thing. They also wouldn't let us leave until he left, and that took almost three hours.

See all the weapons around GWB when he went to visit Iraq?

http://www.georgewbushlibrary.smu.edu/~/media/GWBL/Images/ThePresidentandFamily/ZoomImages/P36047-34.jpg


The guy in the back, over Bush's shoulder is a USSS agent whom I remember seeing all the time in photos and videos. He must have been one of the top guys on his detail.
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Link Posted: 2/9/2013 8:45:52 PM EST
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhu-YgCyPz4


I'd say that the Secret Service pays attention.


Because...this is Egypt...
Single men in barracks don't turn in to plaster saints. - Rudyard Kipling

KC-10Boom: Cookies should never give one the shits.
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