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BTM757 The Other Guy Team Member Joined: Aug 2012  VA, USA Posts: 1221 Feedback: 0% (0)	Posted: 2/6/2013 3:10:08 PM THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT http://www.wvec.com/news/BREAKING-Truman-deployment-delayed-190060941.html
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Posted: 2/6/2013 3:20:08 PM Slamming members of Congress as irresponsible, Panetta said lawmakers are willing to push the country off a fiscal cliff to damage their opposing political parties. He said that if Congress doesn't pass a budget the Pentagon will have to absorb $46 billion in spending reductions in this fiscal year and will face a $35 billion shortfall in operating expenses. Mostly theatrical posturing to bash congress. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile

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dport Bringing back the BB - one 16-inch shell at a time Team Member Joined: Nov 2000  SLB Posts: 36460 Feedback: 100% (6) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 3:30:39 PM The Air Force warned that it would cut operations at various missile defense radar sites from 24 hours to eight hours.
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Fullautoguy Member Team Member Joined: Dec 2004  TX, USA Posts: 3589 Feedback: 100% (3) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 3:36:32 PM wonder what they are going to do with it, just let it sit and rust
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Taktikos Member Team Member Joined: Aug 2011  RUS Posts: 644 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 3:37:51 PM Originally Posted By dport: The Air Force warned that it would cut operations at various missile defense radar sites from 24 hours to eight hours. Ummm... What does that mean?
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JDC_VA_USMC FB0 Team Member Joined: Dec 2005  VA, USA Posts: 6089 Feedback: 100% (6) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 3:38:12 PM In other news, golf courses on AF bases will now have expanded hours. Originally Posted By dport: The Air Force warned that it would cut operations at various missile defense radar sites from 24 hours to eight hours.
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TokerM Member Joined: Jan 2013  PA, USA Posts: 248 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 3:39:01 PM I heard they were trying to outsource the deployment to India.
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Frank_The_Tank Disjointed Member Team Member Joined: May 2006  CO, USA Posts: 11374 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 3:39:34 PM Originally Posted By Taktikos: Originally Posted By dport: The Air Force warned that it would cut operations at various missile defense radar sites from 24 hours to eight hours. Ummm... What does that mean? It means, comrade, you will have a launch window of 16 hours......
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GoolsbyMD Don't Tread On Me Team Member Joined: May 2007  VA, USA Posts: 535 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 3:44:01 PM That's some crazy shit.....
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Posted: 2/6/2013 3:47:49 PM Originally Posted By Frank_The_Tank: Originally Posted By Taktikos: Originally Posted By dport: The Air Force warned that it would cut operations at various missile defense radar sites from 24 hours to eight hours. Ummm... What does that mean? It means, comrade, you will have a launch window of 16 hours...... Somehow I think they will not shut them all down for the same 16 hours.

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E__WOK Future ex husband of Walking_Dead Team Member Joined: Nov 2000  CA, USA Posts: 3480 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 3:51:31 PM Originally Posted By BTM757: http://www.wvec.com/news/BREAKING-Truman-deployment-delayed-190060941.html Is this a true story? How many deployments have been canceled ever since we had a Navy?
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Posted: 2/6/2013 3:51:59 PM Originally Posted By Lomshek: Slamming members of Congress as irresponsible, Panetta said lawmakers are willing to push the country off a fiscal cliff to damage their opposing political parties. He said that if Congress doesn't pass a budget the Pentagon will have to absorb $46 billion in spending reductions in this fiscal year and will face a $35 billion shortfall in operating expenses. Mostly theatrical posturing to bash congress. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile yep.

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ceverett Member Team Member Joined: Apr 2008  ID, USA Posts: 12611 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 3:52:13 PM Originally Posted By dport: The Air Force warned that it would cut operations at various missile defense radar sites from 24 hours to eight hours. In before sylvan.
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djburnett Member Joined: Sep 2012  TX, USA Posts: 205 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 3:54:10 PM Originally Posted By ceverett: Originally Posted By dport: The Air Force warned that it would cut operations at various missile defense radar sites from 24 hours to eight hours. In before sylvan. Fiance ( who is on the U.S.S. Stennis) says that the Stennis is the ONLY battle group out right now. That out of i think 10 carriers.
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tojan19 Member Team Member Joined: Mar 2006  VA, USA Posts: 3910 Feedback: 100% (79) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 3:54:14 PM This is just Obama playing chicken with the GOP. You can't tell me that there is not other stuff that could be cut. They are going to make a big deal about cutting "important" stuff, to make the crisis seem worst. Hope the fucker swerves right into the ditch.
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DarkNite Down with the Sickness Team Member Joined: Feb 2001  WI, USA Posts: 8120 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 3:54:28 PM Each and every one of those fucksticks in DC is to blame. I'm so sick of this partisan bullshit coloring even the most fundamental of govermental responsibilities. Is it really going to be 4 more years of this log-jam shit?
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rapracing Member Team Member Joined: Nov 2008  PA, USA Posts: 3443 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 3:55:19 PM Originally Posted By Fullautoguy: wonder what they are going to do with it, just let it sit and rust Knowing the folks we have running the zoo they may sell it to China. Who knows maybe they already own it
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Posted: 2/6/2013 3:58:17 PM Originally Posted By djburnett: Originally Posted By ceverett: Originally Posted By dport: The Air Force warned that it would cut operations at various missile defense radar sites from 24 hours to eight hours. In before sylvan. Fiance ( who is on the U.S.S. Stennis) says that the Stennis is the ONLY battle group out right now. That out of i think 10 carriers. The Navy updates this periodically: http://www.navy.mil/navydata/nav_legacy.asp?id=146

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Chaingun Tuff shit...start chewing मन् Team Member Joined: Nov 2000  CA, USA Posts: 36598 Feedback: 100% (3) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 3:59:49 PM Originally Posted By Taktikos: Originally Posted By dport: The Air Force warned that it would cut operations at various missile defense radar sites from 24 hours to eight hours. Ummm... What does that mean? What specific sites?
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TXGunnersM8 The Jerk Team Member Joined: May 2005  TX, USA Posts: 5337 Feedback: 100% (4) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 4:00:20 PM Originally Posted By E__WOK: Originally Posted By BTM757: http://www.wvec.com/news/BREAKING-Truman-deployment-delayed-190060941.html Is this a true story? How many deployments have been canceled ever since we had a Navy? None of the ones I was scheduled for
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RenegadeX Member Team Member Joined: Feb 2002  TX, USA Posts: 23712 Feedback: 100% (12) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 4:00:22 PM America gets the govt it elects.
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DnPRK Member Team Member Joined: Aug 2001  CA, USA Posts: 13232 Feedback: 100% (9) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 4:01:07 PM Sequestration is 100% win for the democraps: They eliminate a large group of Republican voters (80% of those who will lose their jobs vote Republican) The money saved from military operations can be given to the FSA to buy more votes
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fettesbrotde Member Joined: Oct 2008  FL, USA Posts: 6448 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 4:01:57 PM There's an obvious war being fought against anyone on the right - this being another major step. Where and when will the line be drawn?
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GoolsbyMD Don't Tread On Me Team Member Joined: May 2007  VA, USA Posts: 538 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 4:07:37 PM Bet those families are happy but the bigger story is its not just the carrier. No carrier goes out alone. An entire air wing and strike group is no longer pulling out. I would bet close to 10k people not deploying now.
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E__WOK Future ex husband of Walking_Dead Team Member Joined: Nov 2000  CA, USA Posts: 3481 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 4:35:12 PM Well, it is official. http://www.defense.gov/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=15804
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Posted: 2/6/2013 4:42:55 PM Originally Posted By Taktikos: Originally Posted By dport: The Air Force warned that it would cut operations at various missile defense radar sites from 24 hours to eight hours. Ummm... What does that mean? You have your chance. FIRST STRIKE!!! Do you feel lucky? Seriously, am I the only guy wondering why we still even spend money manning "missile defense radar sites" 24/7?

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Cav-Gunner Member Joined: May 2006  NC, USA Posts: 1522 Feedback: 100% (2) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 4:48:29 PM The FSA said ... "No, the buck stops here"
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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:00:00 PM They'll cut the OPTEMPO of the forward forces, support equipment, and pay/benefits, BUT they won't cut acquisition of high $$$ pet projects like the problem plagued F-35. Too many jobs at risk in some senators district if that were to happen. The jackasses on the hill NEVER give a shit about the troops in the field unless there's a photo op. involved that can help them get re-elected, then they're all waving the flag and sporting yellow ribbons.

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john575 you can't take the sky from me..... Team Member Joined: Mar 2005  USA Posts: 11141 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 5:17:50 PM Brinkmanship. We will suffer for it. The mentally ill and criminals are running the government.
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Screechjet1 Presently planning the invasion of Australia Team Member Joined: Sep 2005  MNG Posts: 27271 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 5:22:11 PM Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam: Seriously, am I the only guy wondering why we still even spend money manning "missile defense radar sites" 24/7? Is that a serious fucking question?
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Bohr_Adam Caliphate Sleeper Agent Life Member Joined: Feb 2001  AUT Posts: 59824 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 5:23:33 PM Originally Posted By Screechjet1: Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam: Seriously, am I the only guy wondering why we still even spend money manning "missile defense radar sites" 24/7? Is that a serious fucking question? Is that a serious fucking threat? One that can't be handled remotely, if so?
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Sylvan Team Member Life Member Joined: Sep 2002  AK, USA Posts: 33870 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 5:25:25 PM Originally Posted By dport: The Air Force warned that it would cut operations at various missile defense radar sites from 24 hours to eight hours. Holy fuck.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:26:43 PM Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam: Originally Posted By Screechjet1: Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam: Seriously, am I the only guy wondering why we still even spend money manning "missile defense radar sites" 24/7? Is that a serious fucking question? Is that a serious fucking threat? One that can't be handled remotely, if so? The short answer is that there is only one threat to the U.S. that is truly existential, and operates in a 30-60 minute time decision envelope. Everything else the DoD is doing is just nice-to-have, at the end of the day, and its dependent upon our strategic deterrence posture.

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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:27:06 PM Originally Posted By JDC_VA_USMC: In other news, golf courses on AF bases will now have expanded hours. Originally Posted By dport: The Air Force warned that it would cut operations at various missile defense radar sites from 24 hours to eight hours. You of course know that golf course operations are paid for with non-appropriated funds generated by their own operations. But that won't stop you from being "clever".

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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:27:54 PM Originally Posted By FunYun1983: Originally Posted By Frank_The_Tank: Originally Posted By Taktikos: Originally Posted By dport: The Air Force warned that it would cut operations at various missile defense radar sites from 24 hours to eight hours. Ummm... What does that mean? It means, comrade, you will have a launch window of 16 hours...... Somehow I think they will not shut them all down for the same 16 hours. We don't have that kind of redundancy. AF cannot be serious. AF shouldn't even have that authority. That is STRATCOM's decision. If it isn't, AF is worse than I thought.

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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:30:54 PM Originally Posted By Screechjet1: Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam: Originally Posted By Screechjet1: Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam: Seriously, am I the only guy wondering why we still even spend money manning "missile defense radar sites" 24/7? Is that a serious fucking question? Is that a serious fucking threat? One that can't be handled remotely, if so? The short answer is that there is only one threat to the U.S. that is truly existential, and operates in a 30-60 minute time decision envelope. Everything else the DoD is doing is just nice-to-have, at the end of the day, and its dependent upon our strategic deterrence posture. What ever happened to wargaming by putting yourself in the enemy's shoes? And, you didn't answer my question. If responding to a nuclear strike within 30 minutes is so important, why can't we do that remotely? How many stations do we have to man? Enough to destroy how many cities how many times?

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SmilingBandit Damn these electric sex pants! Team Member Joined: Jan 2005  NE, USA Posts: 26237 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 5:32:35 PM Originally Posted By Sylvan: We don't have that kind of redundancy. AF cannot be serious. AF shouldn't even have that authority. That is STRATCOM's decision. If it isn't, AF is worse than I thought. There has to be to this.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:33:00 PM Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam: Originally Posted By Screechjet1: Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam: Originally Posted By Screechjet1: Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam: Seriously, am I the only guy wondering why we still even spend money manning "missile defense radar sites" 24/7? Is that a serious fucking question? Is that a serious fucking threat? One that can't be handled remotely, if so? The short answer is that there is only one threat to the U.S. that is truly existential, and operates in a 30-60 minute time decision envelope. Everything else the DoD is doing is just nice-to-have, at the end of the day, and its dependent upon our strategic deterrence posture. What ever happened to wargaming by putting yourself in the enemy's shoes? And, you didn't answer my question. If responding to a nuclear strike within 30 minutes is so important, why can't we do that remotely? How many stations do we have to man? Enough to destroy how many cities how many times? Man in the loop is critical when it comes to ending the world as we know it. seriously, this is bigger than any CAS bullshit.

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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:33:57 PM Originally Posted By dport: Originally Posted By djburnett: Originally Posted By ceverett: Originally Posted By dport: The Air Force warned that it would cut operations at various missile defense radar sites from 24 hours to eight hours. In before sylvan. Fiance ( who is on the U.S.S. Stennis) says that the Stennis is the ONLY battle group out right now. That out of i think 10 carriers. The Navy updates this periodically: http://www.navy.mil/navydata/nav_legacy.asp?id=146 Back a few weeks or maybe a month when we were discussing all the CVN's in Norfolk & Newport News, the Stennis group was the only one out. Lemme see if I can dig up the map.

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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:35:34 PM Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam: Originally Posted By Taktikos: Originally Posted By dport: The Air Force warned that it would cut operations at various missile defense radar sites from 24 hours to eight hours. Ummm... What does that mean? You have your chance. FIRST STRIKE!!! Do you feel lucky? Seriously, am I the only guy wondering why we still even spend money manning "missile defense radar sites" 24/7? Yes.

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dport Bringing back the BB - one 16-inch shell at a time Team Member Joined: Nov 2000  SLB Posts: 36463 Feedback: 100% (6) Link To This Post	Posted: 2/6/2013 5:36:07 PM Originally Posted By Sylvan: Originally Posted By dport: The Air Force warned that it would cut operations at various missile defense radar sites from 24 hours to eight hours. Holy fuck. Thought you'd enjoy that.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:37:05 PM Originally Posted By Sylvan: Originally Posted By FunYun1983: Originally Posted By Frank_The_Tank: Originally Posted By Taktikos: Originally Posted By dport: The Air Force warned that it would cut operations at various missile defense radar sites from 24 hours to eight hours. Ummm... What does that mean? It means, comrade, you will have a launch window of 16 hours...... Somehow I think they will not shut them all down for the same 16 hours. We don't have that kind of redundancy. AF cannot be serious. AF shouldn't even have that authority. That is STRATCOM's decision. If it isn't, AF is worse than I thought. In my experience the difference between STRATCOM and the USAF is small indeed.

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