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Posted: 2/1/2013 9:54:19 AM EST
Originally Posted By arfarf:
Was the chinese ban an executive order or a law passed by the legislature?


Trade agreement with China in 1993 by Billy Clinton IIRC.

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Posted: 2/1/2013 10:04:12 AM EST
Originally Posted By Gunwritr:
Import ban was on rifles and pistols, but they can import shotguns

Took a long time for anyone to figure this out.

So Century is importing Chinese mag fed AKs in 12 gauge.
Yes they are.

Two models, one like a Vepr with mag well and straight push mag insertion
One like a Saiga with rock in the mag

They plan on blowing them out cheap to slap the shit out of the Russians and take
the market away from them.......

But they don't take Russian mags...........

Think mine shipped today..............


What is the mag availability going to be like???
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Posted: 2/1/2013 10:06:45 AM EST
Originally Posted By Miles_Urbanus:
Originally Posted By macman37:
Originally Posted By Miles_Urbanus:
http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/84582-new-ak-shotgun-at-2013-shot-show/

Rumor mill price is $700 for Fury, $750 for Fury II.

I'd like to see them much cheaper. Priced like the Saiga-12 was when they were first being imported. Sub $300.

Guess we will see.




I think those days are way over... But I like where your head's at.


A man can dream. If they are going to blow them out when they first go on the market I am betting it will be cheaper. They are going to have to do something to get folks to buy a Saiga clone with a propriatry magazine.


Hmmm...Mid November I paid $640 for a "Sporter" stocked Saiga....which was about the going rate, here in NJ at least...they're gonna gave to drop that a touch if they really want to affect the Saiga market..especially with the huge amount of Support and aftermarket parts for Saigas.
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Posted: 2/1/2013 4:06:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By Miles_Urbanus:
http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/84582-new-ak-shotgun-at-2013-shot-show/

Rumor mill price is $700 for Fury, $750 for Fury II.

I'd like to see them much cheaper. Priced like the Saiga-12 was when they were first being imported. Sub $300.

Guess we will see.




Yeah, that's what I figured. So much for pushing Saiga out of the market, they're barely even competing. They better bring something to the table at those prices, like dirt cheap mags.
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Posted: 2/2/2013 12:26:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Rincon_11:

Originally Posted By Miles_Urbanus:
http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/84582-new-ak-shotgun-at-2013-shot-show/

Rumor mill price is $700 for Fury, $750 for Fury II.

I'd like to see them much cheaper. Priced like the Saiga-12 was when they were first being imported. Sub $300.

Guess we will see.





Yeah, that's what I figured. So much for pushing Saiga out of the market, they're barely even competing. They better bring something to the table at those prices, like dirt cheap mags.


I'm hoping the rumored price is based on the current panic.

Now listed in the Century Arms catalog: http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=SG1874%2DN
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Posted: 2/2/2013 4:44:36 PM EST
so who has a dealer log in to let us know the pricing on these?

http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=SG1875-N

http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=SG1874-N
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Posted: 2/5/2013 3:32:44 AM EST
Originally Posted By moshaholic2:
so who has a dealer log in to let us know the pricing on these?

http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=SG1875-N

http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=SG1874-N


$700 for Fury, $750 for Fury II that I posted above was what a guy on the Saiga-12 forum looked up with his C&R. Intro price is going to have to be lower, esp with a propreitery magazine.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 11:22:28 PM EST
so do we know if they take a standard win choke or remmy choke? and nooone has one in hand yet? i see some listed on arms list, but its prob a scam...
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Posted: 3/5/2013 6:11:51 PM EST
should have one on Monday.....will post AAR when I get it :)
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Posted: 3/6/2013 8:43:34 AM EST
Originally Posted By Miles_Urbanus:
Originally Posted By moshaholic2:
so who has a dealer log in to let us know the pricing on these?

http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=SG1875-N

http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=SG1874-N


$700 for Fury, $750 for Fury II that I posted above was what a guy on the Saiga-12 forum looked up with his C&R. Intro price is going to have to be lower, esp with a propreitery magazine.


That's a pretty rediculously high price, considering you can buy a brand-new-in-the-box Norinco M14 in Canada for under $500.
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Posted: 3/6/2013 8:46:31 AM EST
Originally Posted By TheNamelessOne:

Originally Posted By Gunwritr:
Import ban was on rifles and pistols, but they can import shotguns

Took a long time for anyone to figure this out.

So Century is importing Chinese mag fed AKs in 12 gauge.
Yes they are.

Two models, one like a Vepr with mag well and straight push mag insertion
One like a Saiga with rock in the mag

They plan on blowing them out cheap to slap the shit out of the Russians and take
the market away from them.......

But they don't take Russian mags...........

Think mine shipped today..............

nice how much $$? and you gotta post pics.


Fuck. Century wont sell them to anyone in NJ I Bet...
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Posted: 3/11/2013 5:06:53 PM EST
Well, heres what it looks like in the box




Here are a few closer views














The mag is all plastic and is kinda hard to get to set in right. I do like the fixed sights on top...kinda cool.
Havent shot it yet, just had it dropped off by the man in the brown truck.


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Posted: 3/12/2013 2:45:52 AM EST


Thanks for posting this!

1. How does it compare to a Saiga-12?
2. Can you confirm that the magazines are proprietary?
3. What did you pay?
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Posted: 3/12/2013 7:35:23 AM EST
I don't have a saiga mag to check, but they do look different.....just not sure how much. I've only shot a Saiga a couple times, but this seems to have a bit looser tolerances...even for an AK. Still...it looks like it would be a blast to shoot. It has an adjustable gas system so it should work with both heavy and light loads. The fixed sights are pretty cool, they were a great idea for a shotgun like this. It comes with 2 mags, Century will be getting more in but they don't have them yet. No idea on price.

As to cost...I've got this one listed up on Gunbroker for $750, I did a search on there and it looks like there is only one other one listed at this time.
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Posted: 3/12/2013 9:16:31 AM EST
How many rounds do the magazines hold? It ships with 2 mags of equal capacity?
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Posted: 3/12/2013 11:10:16 AM EST
5 round mags
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Just got an email from Centerfire Systems.

$700 For the Fury w/ 2 x 5 rnd mags shipped in the lower 48 states.
$750 For the Fury II w/ 2 x 5 rnd mags shipped in the lower 48 states.
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Posted: 4/18/2013 9:06:33 AM EST
heres a guy that actually has one in his hand

http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/87152-catamount-fury-ordered/
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Posted: 4/19/2013 2:39:30 PM EST
Here is the link to the teardown and review
http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/87503-catamount-fury-tear-down-and-review/#entry891708
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Posted: 4/19/2013 3:09:37 PM EST
Picked up my Fury II yesterday, and started on the conversion.

Started with a Sahttp://s33.photobucket.com/user/Ken41/media/FuryIIStock_zps03628a74.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0iga 308 US stock. The factory stock is retained with a bolt thru the stock. The 308 stock is hollow, so it will not be a problem fitting it up. The 308 stock had to be shortened up to fit up against the stock retaining block in the receiver. That's as far as I got today. The trigger guard is spot welded. I'll drill out the spot welds. Looks like the Tapco trigger assembly will work. The cutout for the pistol grip nut is there.



http://s33.photobucket.com/user/Ken41/media/stock2_zps354611f0.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1


http://s33.photobucket.com/user/Ken41/media/FuryIIStock_zps03628a74.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0


http://s33.photobucket.com/user/Ken41/media/Stock_zps039b78a3.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2

http://s33.photobucket.com/user/Ken41/media/Stock_zps039b78a3.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2
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Originally Posted By Ken41:
Started with a Saiga 308 US stock. The factory stock is retained with a bolt thru the stock. The 308 stock is hollow, so it will not be a problem fitting it up. The 308 stock had to be shortened up to fit up against the stock retaining block in the receiver. That's as far as I got today. The trigger guard is spot welded. I'll drill out the spot welds. Looks like the Tapco trigger assembly will work. The cutout for the pistol grip nut is there.




So much fail in one post, I don't know where to begin. How about you not try and make your font size 33, and just post the pictures???
Lemme help you with the pics before someone has an aneurism.




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Posted: 4/19/2013 3:37:59 PM EST
where do i sign up? oh wait.... freaking ban state over here...
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I sold mine right quick on Gunbroker. It was pretty sloppy build...well...and to be honest I dont like AK's anyway. If larger mags were available...then maybe.
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