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Posted: 1/1/2013 2:54:32 PM EST
Surfing channels today I paused on the Rose Bowl Parade - they were focusing on the modern day "Buffalo Soldier" parade group.

Everything was cool until the parade announcer stated that "the name buffalo soldier came from American Indians who said that the soldiers" fought ferociously like buffalo". This same explanation appeared on-screen in a text box.

Sorry, but I was taught in school that the American Indians referred to the black troopers as "buffalo soldiers" due to the fact that their hair reminded them of the buffalo's hair.

Yet another example of the re-writing of American History
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I'm 32 and heard and read both all my life.

Could it be a little of both reasons ?
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Originally Posted By Shung:
I'm 32 and heard and read both all my life.

Could it be a little of both reasons ?


From what I've heard, buffalo weren't exactly fierce - hunters would shoot hundreds out of a single herd from one shooting position

About as fierce as shooting beef cattle in a herd
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I may be wrong, but from what I had heard it was both a reference to their hair and meant to be derogatory.
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Originally Posted By Shung:
I'm 32 and heard and read both all my life.

Could it be a little of both reasons ?

That's because you're 32. If you were fifty, wouldn't have started seeing that "fighting buffalo" bullshit until you were about twenty-five.

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Originally Posted By Riflenut:
Originally Posted By Shung:
I'm 32 and heard and read both all my life.

Could it be a little of both reasons ?


From what I've heard, buffalo weren't exactly fierce - hunters would shoot hundreds out of a single herd from one shooting position

About as fierce as shooting beef cattle in a herd


I can tell you first hand shooting buffalo is like shooting Bessie the cow. saddest fucking thing you've ever seen.
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American bison fight fiercely?
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Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
Originally Posted By Shung:
I'm 32 and heard and read both all my life.

Could it be a little of both reasons ?

That's because you're 32. If you were fifty, would wouldn't have started seeing that "fighting buffalo" bullshit until you were about twenty-five.



agreed.
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The name "Buffalo soldiers" was always about appearances. I've never even heard the "fought fiercely" BS.
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American bison fight fiercely?




Very militant.....and fierce
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Originally Posted By Schlange:
I may be wrong, but from what I had heard it was both a reference to their hair and meant to be derogatory.

That's been my understanding for the past 60 years.
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Dang injuns were racist.
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Dang injuns were racist.


But it's ok now to have a football team called The Redskins.
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I always thought they stole Buffalo Soldiers from that song...
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Both explanations (the derogatory one and the "they fight hard" one, and a combination of the two) have appeared in historical sources.
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Originally Posted By Spade:
Both explanations (the derogatory one and the "they fight hard" one, and a combination of the two) have appeared in historical sources.



Date of "they fight hard" reference source? (2008? )
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Originally Posted By MikeE23666:
Originally Posted By helmutlent:
Dang injuns were racist.


But it's ok now to have a football team called The Redskins.


payback, bitch! (wash, dc being 99% buffalo headed.)
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Originally Posted By Riflenut:
Originally Posted By Spade:
Both explanations (the derogatory one and the "they fight hard" one, and a combination of the two) have appeared in historical sources.



Date of "they fight hard" reference source? (2008? )


Elizabeth Warren may be the source?

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Well, they were stolen from Africa and brought to America to win the war for for America. That hair is called dreadlock rasta, and if you knew your history you wouldn't ask me
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Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Well, they were stolen from Africa and brought to America to win the war for for America. That hair is called dreadlock rasta, and if you knew your history you wouldn't ask me


Really?

I think you are the one that needs a history lesson ..............
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Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
Originally Posted By Shung:
I'm 32 and heard and read both all my life.

Could it be a little of both reasons ?

That's because you're 32. If you were fifty, would wouldn't have started seeing that "fighting buffalo" bullshit until you were about twenty-five.


Ayup. The Long March through the Institutions is almost complete. When my generation (and I'm 50) goes, it'll be all "fighting buffalo bullshit".
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Originally Posted By Riflenut:
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Well, they were stolen from Africa and brought to America to win the war for for America. That hair is called dreadlock rasta, and if you knew your history you wouldn't ask me


Really?

I think you are the one that needs a history lesson ..............


Me thinks you need one of these...




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Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Well, they were stolen from Africa and brought to America to win the war for for America. That hair is called dreadlock rasta, and if you knew your history you wouldn't ask me


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Thank you.


Kids.

ETA - although in fairness there were no Rastafarians in the 1800's.
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Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
Originally Posted By Shung:
I'm 32 and heard and read both all my life.

Could it be a little of both reasons ?

That's because you're 32. If you were fifty, wouldn't have started seeing that "fighting buffalo" bullshit until you were about twenty-five.


Bingo! I can attest to that.

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I never heard about fighting buffalo until now. I learned it was because of the hair.
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Originally Posted By Riflenut:
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Well, they were stolen from Africa and brought to America to win the war for for America. That hair is called dreadlock rasta, and if you knew your history you wouldn't ask me


Really?

I think you are the one that needs a history lesson ..............


Did you just ask me who da hell do I tink I am?
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Posted: 1/1/2013 4:54:26 PM EST
I've never heard either explanation. I juswt thought it sounded weird that buffalo were fierce.
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Originally Posted By Schlange:
I may be wrong, but from what I had heard it was both a reference to their hair and meant to be derogatory.


It is the hair. I live next to Fort Huachuca and they only talk about the hair at the museum on the post.

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Originally Posted By ODA_564:
American bison fight fiercely?

PC/liberal new speak?

Been around them for a number of years, and the only thing I've ever seen one fight was
another bull, who he thought was trying to muscle in on his womenz, and one that escaped
the corral out at Ft. Riley.

He fought a Toyota, which lost badly!
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the people in my tribe called them something entirely different
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Originally Posted By Schlange:
I may be wrong, but from what I had heard it was both a reference to their hair and meant to be derogatory.


The Comanches had a low opinion of blacks. It was derogatory.
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Originally Posted By Riflenut:
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Well, they were stolen from Africa and brought to America to win the war for for America. That hair is called dreadlock rasta, and if you knew your history you wouldn't ask me


Really?

I think you are the one that needs a history lesson ..............


Why so seerious?
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Originally Posted By Riflenut:
Originally Posted By Shung:
I'm 32 and heard and read both all my life.

Could it be a little of both reasons ?


From what I've heard, buffalo weren't exactly fierce - hunters would shoot hundreds out of a single herd from one shooting position

About as fierce as shooting beef cattle in a herd


Never been around bison huh?
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It came from their hair.

So what. One of the biggest crocks of shit I have seen in my lifetime is the inability to face the truth.

Now what the fuck is so godawful about the FACT that the Indians named the colored regiment the 'Buffalo Soldiers' because of their hair?

Nothing.

And while we're at it, their regimental colors said 'U.S. Colored Troops' on it.

So what.

If you're afraid to learn from history you'll repeat it.

Tell it like it is.


Incidentally, the Buffalo Soldiers fought well alongside me at Kettle Hill. Them guys can drink out of my canteen anytime.
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the people in my tribe called them something entirely different


Well fucking enlighten us.
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There's no record of the Germans calling Jarines "Teufel Hunden," either, and they had red stripes on their uniforms even prior to Chapultepec.

Correcting military history "buffs" on their history generally only leads to irrational hostility. At the same time, it shows how all apocryphal stories like that are probably all full of shit. The name could have come from white soldiers for all we know, or one of the soldiers themselves.

"Ferocious buffalo" is pretty funny, though. I'm picturing that "guy on a buffalo" clip now with the cougar fight.







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the people in my tribe called them something entirely different


Well fucking enlighten us.



Let's not and say we did.

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Originally Posted By Riflenut:
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Well, they were stolen from Africa and brought to America to win the war for for America. That hair is called dreadlock rasta, and if you knew your history you wouldn't ask me


Really?

I think you are the one that needs a history lesson ..............


Sorry Bud, that's how I heard it.

Edit: Just saw you got up to date on your Bob M.
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Originally Posted By piccolo:
It came from their hair.

So what. One of the biggest crocks of shit I have seen in my lifetime is the inability to face the truth.

Now what the fuck is so godawful about the FACT that the Indians named the colored regiment the 'Buffalo Soldiers' because of their hair?

Nothing.

And while we're at it, their regimental colors said 'U.S. Colored Troops' on it.

So what.
If you're afraid to learn from history you'll repeat it.

Tell it like it is.


Incidentally, the Buffalo Soldiers fought well alongside me at Kettle Hill. Them guys can drink out of my canteen anytime.


Yes to all of that. TR may hve owed his bully ass to the troopers that advanced in order up that hill while his rabble was pinned down.


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Members of one victim group using raci$$ terms about members of another victim group! Imagine all of the liberal cranial explosions!


Thus the "fierce buffalo" bullshit.

If it's a Colt, it's a copy of an original ArmaLite.

I am not LARRYG36.

Racing is life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.

If your AR10 is marked Geneseo, IL, it's still an AR10 no matter what some people say.
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Originally Posted By Shung:
I'm 32 and heard and read both all my life.

Could it be a little of both reasons ?


Nope.


I fucking HATE revisionist history.
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