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Posted: 12/28/2012 11:15:50 AM EDT
I'm looking for tests or studies on how far out you can penetrate Level III hardplates with the 338 Lapua. Any info you have or can point me toward would be appreciated.
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I doubt they would even slow it down.
I've seen what 7.62x54r does to plates. Not pretty when it makes it through the front plate, the body and stops halfway in the back plate
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I have no doubt that it would penetrate the plates, but out how far can you depend on a solid kill. I am also working under the assumption the shooter would go for a head shot out to 300'ish depending on conditions like I would. So beyond range am I still going to have solid penetration?
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The plates I made will stop 338 at 100 yards and 50 bmg at 50
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You needing something to catch rounds while your partner assembles your NEF handy rifle in .300winmag?
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I have no doubt that it would penetrate the plates, but out how far can you depend on a solid kill. I am also working under the assumption the shooter would go for a head shot out to 300'ish depending on conditions like I would. So beyond range am I still going to have solid penetration? what makes you think they would go for a headshot? if you have a 338 lapua, COM will make plenty a mess and is a much larger target |
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Gecko45, is that you? Exactly what came into my head as well. |
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I have no doubt that it would penetrate the plates, but out how far can you depend on a solid kill. I am also working under the assumption the shooter would go for a head shot out to 300'ish depending on conditions like I would. So beyond range am I still going to have solid penetration? what makes you think they would go for a headshot? if you have a 338 lapua, COM will make plenty a mess and is a much larger target Shoot for the pelvic girdle. |
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You needing something to catch rounds while your partner assembles your NEF handy rifle in .300winmag? All you need is a wife and duct tape. |
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I can't answer your question, but RUAG guarantees that their AP round will penetrate level IV armour at over 550m.
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Gecko45, is that you? Exactly what came into my head as well. I will take "How you know you spend too much time on the internet" for 500 Alex I was right with you guys |
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If someone is pointing a 338LM at you, the first thing you'll know about it is when your head explodes into pulp, your mates around you wonder what the bits of stuff are that's hitting them as the sonic boom eventually catches up and the spotter calmly says to the sniper:
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Gecko45, is that you? Exactly what came into my head as well. I will take "How you know you spend too much time on the internet" for 500 Alex I was right with you guys Without a doubt one of the best troll jobs ever. |
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You needing something to catch rounds while your partner assembles your NEF handy rifle in .300winmag? Quoted:
Gecko45, is that you? Exactly what came into my head as well. I will take "How you know you spend too much time on the internet" for 500 Alex I was right with you guys Without a doubt one of the best troll jobs ever. oh the good old days.. |
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If someone is pointing a 338LM at you, the first thing you'll know about it is when your head explodes into pulp, your mates around you wonder what the bits of stuff are that's hitting them as the sonic boom eventually catches up and the spotter calmly says to the sniper: "I wonder how much he paid for that body armour?" LOL...that's pretty funny right there! |
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You needing something to catch rounds while your partner assembles your NEF handy rifle in .300winmag? Quoted:
Gecko45, is that you? Exactly what came into my head as well. I will take "How you know you spend too much time on the internet" for 500 Alex I was right with you guys Without a doubt one of the best troll jobs ever. I'm still not sure it was a troll. |
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You needing something to catch rounds while your partner assembles your NEF handy rifle in .300winmag? Quoted:
Gecko45, is that you? Exactly what came into my head as well. I will take "How you know you spend too much time on the internet" for 500 Alex I was right with you guys Without a doubt one of the best troll jobs ever. I'm still not sure it was a troll. God help us if it wasn't. |
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The plates I made will stop 338 at 100 yards and 50 bmg at 50 Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'd be willing to bet that even though the round might be stopped the impact of the projectile with all the foot pounds behind it could stil kill you. A 690gr .50BMG FMJ at 50 yards is hitting around 2,800 fps and generating roughly 10,000 foot pounds of energy. I'd be willing to guess the fluid shockwaves generated from the impact could/would shatter ribs, shatter spine and destroy internal organs. |
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I have no doubt that it would penetrate the plates, but out how far can you depend on a solid kill. I am also working under the assumption the shooter would go for a head shot out to 300'ish depending on conditions like I would. So beyond range am I still going to have solid penetration? what makes you think they would go for a headshot? if you have a 338 lapua, COM will make plenty a mess and is a much larger target Shoot for the pelvic girdle. I keep hearin about this pelvic griddle, is that a scientifickal name for the wimmens hot spot? |
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You needing something to catch rounds while your partner assembles your NEF handy rifle in .300winmag? Quoted:
Gecko45, is that you? Exactly what came into my head as well. Ditto. |
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This is a good reminder that as powerful as .338 Lapua is, it isn't even in the same stadium as .50 BMG.
Look at it in terms of muzzle energy. The difference explains why, for example, .338 Lapua is OK at our private range, but .50 BMG is not. .50 BMG is just another world compared to any other rifle round. |
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I don't think the bullet would notice, nor do I think you could reasonably carry body armor that would stop it. Were it to stop the bullet, you'd probably not feel very sporty for the next week or two.
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I am in the who the fuck cares crowd with this.
Lets just say by some mircle your melon is not a fine red splatter of ick, you just took one of the hardest hitting rounds made short of anti tank arty.... I am thinking FUCKING OUCH! You might fair better just stepping in front of a slow moving train and letting it make strawberry jelly out of slowly or step in front of a mac truck doing 40. |
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You needing something to catch rounds while your partner assembles your NEF handy rifle in .300winmag? Quoted:
Gecko45, is that you? Exactly what came into my head as well. Ditto. Was that the origin of the quote "If your plan B is to stop a 338 Lapua round with body armor, you need a better plan A" or something like that? lol... |
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Quoted: Quoted: I'm looking for tests or studies on how far out you can penetrate Level III hardplates with the 338 Lapua. Any info you have or can point me toward would be appreciated. http://youtu.be/fvzinVM7aWA ETA: Beaten by a good 5 mins :-( Is he using a suppressor? |
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Quoted: Was that the origin of the quote "If your plan B is to stop a 338 Lapua round with body armor, you need a better plan A" or something like that? lol... I think it was something like " If you're taking multiple rounds to the torso from a 338 Lapua, body armor is the least of your worries." |
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Was that the origin of the quote "If your plan B is to stop a 338 Lapua round with body armor, you need a better plan A" or something like that? lol... Yes. Gecko45 |
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You needing something to catch rounds while your partner assembles your NEF handy rifle in .300winmag? This is the point the thread veers off the tracks. Ha ha. |
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You needing something to catch rounds while your partner assembles your NEF handy rifle in .300winmag? holy shit that was great. well done sir! |
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They werent laughing at Gecko45 when he and his team saved that mayor's daughter were they? That dude was and is the real deal. Thats how good his team is! You dont even have to worry when you go to that mall.
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I'd say the force it would apply to your body would be sufficient to unplug you - penetration or no.
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I'm looking for tests or studies on how far out you can penetrate Level III hardplates with the 338 Lapua. Any info you have or can point me toward would be appreciated. yes Or maybe not |
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I'd say the force it would apply to your body would be sufficient to unplug you - penetration or no. Well that is why you tape extra trauma plates to your back. Tactically. |
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On a serious note:
Provided that there is no penetration, and there is no protrusion of the vest into the body cavity (meaning that the plate does its job and spreads the impact over the surface area of the plate) the shootee will feel no more impact than the person shooting the rifle. The plate, pushing into the shootee, being of much greater surface area, will impart LESS psi of pressure than the shooter feels from the butt plate. It's a provable fact. ETA: I should've read the origianl question again. I thought we were discussing a plate that would actually stop the round. |
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I'm looking for tests or studies on how far out you can penetrate Level III hardplates with the 338 Lapua. Any info you have or can point me toward would be appreciated. Like a hot knife through butter! THWACK! |
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On a serious note: Provided that there is no penetration, and there is no protrusion of the vest into the body cavity (meaning that the plate does its job and spreads the impact over the surface area of the plate) the shootee will feel no more impact than the person shooting the rifle. The plate, pushing into the shootee, being of much greater surface area, will impart LESS psi of pressure than the shooter feels from the butt plate. It's a provable fact. ETA: I should've read the origianl question again. I thought we were discussing a plate that would actually stop the round. That would be the case if the gun in question did not have a brake or suppressor. |
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