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 Balista
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Posted: 10/30/2012 11:38:49 AM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT A North Texas congregation is reeling after an attacker rammed a car into a church wall, chased the pastor, and beat him to death with an electric guitar.
Police told reporters they didn't know why the unidentified suspect attacked Rev. Danny Kirk Sr., founding pastor of the Greater Sweethome MIssionary Baptist Church. "I heard a big bang, and I didn't know what it was," Whitaker said. "The motor revved up, and when the dust cleared, I saw Pastor [Danny] Kirk on the hood of the car."
Whitaker ran outside and saw the suspect — whom family members identified as 33-year-old Derrick Birdow — beating his pastor. "I hit the man upside the head and it didn't faze him," he said. "I went and got a 2-by-2 [piece of lumber] and hit him again, more than once, and that didn't faze that man." Forest Hill Police Chief Dan Dennis said his officers arrived as Birdow was hitting Kirk. One of the officers Tased Birdow, who was handcuffed and put in a patrol car. The suspect later died at a hospital.
http://www.kvue.com/news/state/176413421.html 
Greater Sweethome Missionary Baptist Church janitor John Whitaker intervened in a futile attempt to save Pastor Danny Kirk from a crazed assailant. 
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Wobblin-Goblin
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Posted: 10/30/2012 11:40:35 AM
Everything's bigger in Texas. Including the WTF.
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Balista
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Posted: 10/30/2012 11:40:57 AM
[Last Edit: 10/30/2012 11:41:54 AM by Balista]
Might be murder suspect mugshots.
Derrick Anthony Birdow Arrest Information Location:Fort Worth, TX Age:33 years 
Name Derrick Birdow Location Fort Worth, Texas Age 32 years Booking Date 05-30-2011 |
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RabidMonkeyPox
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Posted: 10/30/2012 11:42:28 AM
well that is fucked up.
prayers to all those involved. |
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GIVEMEMYTOYS
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Posted: 10/30/2012 11:43:54 AM
You know they ought to ban electric guitars.
That is a metric ton of WTF?? |
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Posted: 10/30/2012 11:44:18 AM
Now I get the thread about banning guitars. Very much WTF.
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Dumpster_Baby
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Posted: 10/30/2012 11:45:04 AM
Originally Posted By Balista: Might be murder suspect mugshots. http://mugshots.mobi/img/3224105/lg/derrick-anthony-birdow.jpg Derrick Anthony Birdow Arrest Information Location:Fort Worth, TX Age:33 years http://www.mugshotsonline.com/listing/derrick-birdow/mug-shot-12396362.jpg Name Derrick Birdow Location Fort Worth, Texas Age 32 years Booking Date 05-30-2011 "Oh, THAT Derrick Anthony Birdow..."   |
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Balista
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Posted: 10/30/2012 11:45:23 AM
According to Dallas News, a couple, Jimmy and Jennifer Henderson, and Christopher Henderson, Jimmy's brother, identified the attacker as their cousin, Derrick Birdow, 33. Police say Birdow was not a member of the church but they believe his children were.
When Birdow's cousin, Deeverett Wingham, saw the car Birdow crashed into the church wall, he said: “I know — I see the car and everything, but it hasn't hit me yet." Christopher Henderson, said his cousin Birdow, had been acting strangely lately, claiming some people were trying to kill him. Henderson reportedly said: “He’s been having some issues, and he hasn't been himself. This past week, he’s been going through some stuff.” According to Henderson, Birdow had come into possession of some drugs "about a week ago that made him go crazy.” Hendersen said: “He’s a happy dude. I’m sorry for the church people, but I wouldn't have expected this out of him at all. I know it’s a loss for you, but it’s a big loss for us, too.” 
According to Dallas News, Tarrant County records show that in 2004, Birdow was jailed five years for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. He was also convicted for "possession of a controlled substance, misdemeanor family violence and driving while intoxicated." http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/335798 |
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1IV
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Posted: 10/30/2012 11:46:22 AM
Guns. Everyone needs to learn how to use, and carry pistols. Especially social celebrity pastors.
Prayers sent. |
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VoodooChile
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Posted: 10/30/2012 11:47:37 AM
"scuse me..while I whup this guy"
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ObsoleteMan
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Posted: 10/30/2012 11:49:56 AM
/Was this one of those assault guitars with the shoulder thing that goes up? |
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Balista
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Posted: 10/30/2012 11:51:58 AM
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packinheavy
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Posted: 10/30/2012 11:54:04 AM
Damn Assault Guitars!  |
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Posted: 10/30/2012 11:54:40 AM
The poor janitor really gave it his best trying to save the pastor from the nut/drug addict.
When that asshole shot all the Sikhs one of the older leaders of the group tried to fight him and was shot and killed. |
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Posted: 10/30/2012 11:54:51 AM
Originally Posted By RabidMonkeyPox:
well that is fucked up. prayers to all those involved. Interesting Freudian slip. You maybe ought to have that looked at. |
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Balista
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Posted: 10/30/2012 12:01:24 PM
Name: Derrick Anthony Birdow Location: Fort Worth, Texas Age: 31 years Processing Date: 12-11-2010 Alleged Violations: PC 22.01(B)(2)(A) F3 ASSAULT FAM/HOUSEHOL LOCAL MC LOCAL CLASS C WARRAN |
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74novaman
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Posted: 10/30/2012 12:04:38 PM
[Last Edit: 10/30/2012 12:05:36 PM by 74novaman]
Originally Posted By RabidMonkeyPox:
well that is fucked up. prayers to the victims family . Yep. I'm really surprised no one in the church was carrying. It's too bad someone wasn't...they might have been able to save the pastor. |
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Posted: 10/30/2012 12:06:53 PM
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Posted: 10/30/2012 12:07:57 PM
Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: Everything's bigger in Texas. Including the WTF. I shouldn't have laughed at this but I must admit that I did. |
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VA-gunnut
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Posted: 10/30/2012 12:12:53 PM
Wow.
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coldair
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Posted: 10/30/2012 12:15:55 PM
I guess the pastor is singing a different tune now.
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Posted: 10/30/2012 12:19:06 PM
So... anyone know what brand/model of electric guitar???
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Posted: 10/30/2012 12:20:04 PM
I knew there was a reason the Evangelicals I grew up with had an aversion to guitars
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DangerJ
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Posted: 10/30/2012 12:22:55 PM
Man, that story is the most F'd up thing I've read for a while.
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Posted: 10/30/2012 12:22:55 PM
Wait, the suspect died?
Is that because he got cracked in the head with a piece of lumber? It's not real clear... Speed |
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Posted: 10/30/2012 12:43:49 PM
[Last Edit: 10/30/2012 12:46:22 PM by Green_Canoe]
Originally Posted By Red_Label:
So... anyone know what brand/model of electric guitar??? Probably a Tele or a Strat. Nothing makes a beter bludgeon than a Fender. Neck on a Gibson wouldn't survive the first hit. |
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TheNamelessOne
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Posted: 10/30/2012 12:44:48 PM
is it wrong that the first thing i thought of is that he was doing his wife?
could be a robbery but really who knows. |
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Posted: 10/30/2012 12:45:23 PM
Where were the men? I can't believe just one guy tried to help. I can see someone not helping some joe on the street but your minister?
I always carry to church and I always sit in a place that I can bail if need but also where I can see who enters the auditorium. I would have thought is this was a "Mega"church they would have had some type of security team. |
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Posted: 10/30/2012 12:46:47 PM
Originally Posted By VoodooChile:
"scuse me..while I whup this guy" |
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Posted: 10/30/2012 12:48:38 PM
[Last Edit: 10/30/2012 12:49:18 PM by Tweek218]
Oh the Photoshop possibilites with this picture... |
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Posted: 10/30/2012 12:48:46 PM
Originally Posted By Green_Canoe:
Originally Posted By Red_Label:
So... anyone know what brand/model of electric guitar??? Probably a Tele or a Strat. Nothing makes a beter bludgeon than a Fender. Neck on a Gibson wouldn't survive the first hit. WERD! Though I was thinking that a heavy old LP ('59 burst!) would make a helluva sledgehammer. |
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Posted: 10/30/2012 12:52:03 PM
I smacked a drunk off the stage one time with a Telecaster, they make a terrific blunt force weapon.
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Posted: 10/30/2012 1:02:59 PM
Originally Posted By Red_Label:
So... anyone know what brand/model of electric guitar??? I'm gonna go with single coils, you'd never get that kinda impact with humbuckers. |
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TurboniumOxide
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Posted: 10/30/2012 1:17:32 PM
Originally Posted By woofum:
Originally Posted By Red_Label:
So... anyone know what brand/model of electric guitar??? I'm gonna go with single coils, you'd never get that kinda impact with humbuckers. Quite the opposite. But, I was wondering too. Probably a Gibson Les Paul. The only guitar sturdy enough (IMHO) to kill someone with. The neck is solid through the body, not bolted on. Too bad someone wasn't carrying. Not really a laughing matter, but I can't help but envision Left4Dead and the Twang sound when you kill a zombie with the guitar. |
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Posted: 10/30/2012 1:22:39 PM
Probably on PCP.
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Posted: 10/30/2012 1:24:30 PM
Originally Posted By Daps: Where were the men? I can't believe just one guy tried to help. I can see someone not helping some joe on the street but your minister? I always carry to church and I always sit in a place that I can bail if need but also where I can see who enters the auditorium. I would have thought is this was a "Mega"church they would have had some type of security team. Can't get the article to open, but I don't think this was during service on Sunday. Think it was yesterday, during the week. |
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chibajoe
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Posted: 10/30/2012 1:28:19 PM
[Last Edit: 10/30/2012 1:30:10 PM by chibajoe]
Birdow broke away from Rev. Danny Kirk and ran inside, with Whitaker and Kirk following. The attack continued near the music room, Whitaker said. 
So, at some point, the guy ran away from them, and they chased him down? |
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Posted: 10/30/2012 1:29:13 PM
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What a shame that nobody shot the crazy asshole. Now we get to keep him locked up for the rest of his life.
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Posted: 10/30/2012 1:30:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Alien:
What a shame that nobody shot the crazy asshole. Now we get to keep him locked up for the rest of his life. 
He's dead, Jim.  |
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Posted: 10/30/2012 1:31:16 PM
Clicked on thread expecting supect to be Pete Townsend.
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Posted: 10/30/2012 1:31:59 PM
Originally Posted By VoodooChile:
"scuse me..while I whup this guy" |
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Posted: 10/30/2012 1:32:03 PM
Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla: Originally Posted By Daps: Where were the men? I can't believe just one guy tried to help. I can see someone not helping some joe on the street but your minister? I always carry to church and I always sit in a place that I can bail if need but also where I can see who enters the auditorium. I would have thought is this was a "Mega"church they would have had some type of security team. Can't get the article to open, but I don't think this was during service on Sunday. Think it was yesterday, during the week. Happened Monday morning. But incidents like this are a reason that a number of people at our church carry. |
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John_Wayne777
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Posted: 10/30/2012 1:32:39 PM
Originally Posted By 74novaman:
Originally Posted By RabidMonkeyPox:
well that is fucked up. prayers to the victims family . Yep. I'm really surprised no one in the church was carrying. It's too bad someone wasn't...they might have been able to save the pastor. Not too many people in the church on a Monday morning. |
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Posted: 10/30/2012 1:36:52 PM
Originally Posted By TurboniumOxide:
Originally Posted By woofum:
Originally Posted By Red_Label:
So... anyone know what brand/model of electric guitar??? I'm gonna go with single coils, you'd never get that kinda impact with humbuckers. Quite the opposite. But, I was wondering too. Probably a Gibson Les Paul. The only guitar sturdy enough (IMHO) to kill someone with. The neck is solid through the body, not bolted on. Too bad someone wasn't carrying. Not really a laughing matter, but I can't help but envision Left4Dead and the Twang sound when you kill a zombie with the guitar. Ever notice how no one smashes Les Pauls on-stage? It's usually a variation on a strat that gets smashed. In regards to the sturdiness of LPs versus bolt-on strats/teles... trust me after 28+ years of owning many examples of them all –– the bolt-ons are every bit as tough. I have yet to see a strat/tele break off at the headstock (like LPs do). The weak spot on a bolt-on is obviously the bolt joint, but on the LP it's the angled headstock. At any rate... despite my casual banter about guitar construction, I am sad for this guy and his family. Would definitely be nice if someone had been packing. When I was more active in church, I rarely felt like packing one of my regular semi-autos. But the tiny NAA .22LR revolver that I carry as backup now would make a perfect little gun for such a situation. Despite the scourn that such mouse guns usually get around here... a well-placed .22LR round to this perps head would've ended things quickly. |
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Posted: 10/30/2012 1:37:15 PM
Originally Posted By Tweek218:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/10/29/article-2225061-15C0854D000005DC-920_634x842.jpg Oh the Photoshop possibilites with this picture... too soon dude too soon |
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Posted: 10/30/2012 1:39:53 PM
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Originally Posted By Red_Label: Despite the scourn that such mouse guns usually get around here... a well-placed .22LR round to this perps head would've ended things quickly. I can't help but think that it would find it a little difficult to make a head shot with a pocket gun while beaing beaten to death with a guitar. |
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Posted: 10/30/2012 1:40:43 PM
Originally Posted By TurboniumOxide: Les Paul? Hardly. A Telecaster is the proper instrument for a musical bludgeoning. It would probably still be in tune afterwards. Or at least as in tune as a Telecaster ever gets. Originally Posted By woofum: Originally Posted By Red_Label: So... anyone know what brand/model of electric guitar??? I'm gonna go with single coils, you'd never get that kinda impact with humbuckers. Quite the opposite. But, I was wondering too. Probably a Gibson Les Paul. The only guitar sturdy enough (IMHO) to kill someone with. The neck is solid through the body, not bolted on. Too bad someone wasn't carrying. Not really a laughing matter, but I can't help but envision Left4Dead and the Twang sound when you kill a zombie with the guitar. |
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tyman
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Posted: 10/30/2012 1:43:31 PM
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Posted: 10/30/2012 1:44:21 PM
My Fender P-Bass is made for killing - solid, heavy and a longer reach.
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Posted: 10/30/2012 1:44:44 PM
It's that damn Rock-and-Roll!!
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Posted: 10/30/2012 1:45:57 PM
Originally Posted By TheNamelessOne: is it wrong that the first thing i thought of is that he was doing his wife? could be a robbery but really who knows. He's a violent nut. The family of the murderer said he was acting wacky shortly before the murder. |
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