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Posted: 7/9/2012 9:52:03 PM
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Hey guys.
Just picked this bayonet up.
Curious if the finish is original, if it looks unsharpened to you, and what year you guys would date it?
Thanks!
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Posted: 7/9/2012 10:00:15 PM
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1943

final answer..........

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BAYONET, M1: In mid-1943 a new bayonet was ordered with shorter blade of 10" length. It was identical to the 1905 Type 2 except for the 10" blade. A shorter M7 olive-drab metal/fiberglass scabbard came with it.
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Posted: 7/9/2012 10:45:49 PM
Originally Posted By Pain:
1943

final answer..........

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BAYONET, M1: In mid-1943 a new bayonet was ordered with shorter blade of 10" length. It was identical to the 1905 Type 2 except for the 10" blade. A shorter M7 olive-drab metal/fiberglass scabbard came with it.


Cool, thanks!
Does it look to be all original to you? Unsharpened, etc?
It was a complete impulse buy. Looked to be in super shape so I jumped on it.
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Posted: 7/9/2012 11:52:33 PM
Yes, it looks original.

Dad yelled at me years ago when I took a bayonet like yours then proceded to sharpen it up on a belt sander. He told me "it don't need to be sharp, it will go right thru"

Well he was in the pacific during WWII so I new better than to debate him....
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Posted: 7/10/2012 12:04:31 AM
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Yes, it looks original.

Dad yelled at me years ago when I took a bayonet like yours then proceded to sharpen it up on a belt sander. He told me "it don't need to be sharp, it will go right thru"

Well he was in the pacific during WWII so I new better than to debate him....


Ya...I bet he wasn't too happy about that!
Thanks for the info!

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Posted: 7/10/2012 12:16:22 AM
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The marks on the scabbard indicate Taiwan manufacture.

American Fork & Hoe. Early war were 16" and cut down, most had the date stamp. Yours is prolly late after 1943 or so. I'll look it up when I get home, my bayonet book is at home, I'm at work.

Sometimes there is stuff stamped very low under the blade guard.

Look here. he is the M-1 boyonet guru:

http://www.usmilitaryknives.com/bayonet_points.htm
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Originally Posted By PanzerOfDoom:
The marks on the scabbard indicate Taiwan manufacture.

American Fork & Hoe. Early war were 16" and cut down, most had the date stamp. Yours is prolly late after 1943 or so. I'll look it up when I get home, my bayonet book is at home, I'm at work.

Sometimes there is stuff stamped very low under the blade guard.

Look here. he is the M-1 boyonet guru:

http://www.usmilitaryknives.com/bayonet_points.htm


Ya I thought it was strange that it wasn't dated.
Would love any other info you have when you get the chance!
The link you gave is a little intimidating haha...not sure where to start. But I'm looking at it now.
Thanks!
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Posted: 7/10/2012 2:38:16 AM
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Originally Posted By PanzerOfDoom:
The marks on the scabbard indicate Taiwan manufacture.

American Fork & Hoe. Early war were 16" and cut down, most had the date stamp. Yours is prolly late after 1943 or so. I'll look it up when I get home, my bayonet book is at home, I'm at work.

Sometimes there is stuff stamped very low under the blade guard.

Look here. he is the M-1 boyonet guru:

http://www.usmilitaryknives.com/bayonet_points.htm


Ya I thought it was strange that it wasn't dated.
Would love any other info you have when you get the chance!
The link you gave is a little intimidating haha...not sure where to start. But I'm looking at it now.
Thanks!


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Posted: 7/10/2012 2:43:38 AM
IS $80 a reasonable price for one of these?
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Originally Posted By E-Mag:
IS $80 a reasonable price for one of these?


Go to the CMP website, you can purchase original WW2 bayonets for $65.

There are a bunch of reproduction bayos around now, CTD sells some and I have seen them in other places.

A few of mine:



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Posted: 7/10/2012 10:12:54 AM
Originally Posted By PanzerOfDoom:
Originally Posted By comma:
Originally Posted By PanzerOfDoom:
The marks on the scabbard indicate Taiwan manufacture.

American Fork & Hoe. Early war were 16" and cut down, most had the date stamp. Yours is prolly late after 1943 or so. I'll look it up when I get home, my bayonet book is at home, I'm at work.

Sometimes there is stuff stamped very low under the blade guard.

Look here. he is the M-1 boyonet guru:

http://www.usmilitaryknives.com/bayonet_points.htm


Ya I thought it was strange that it wasn't dated.
Would love any other info you have when you get the chance!
The link you gave is a little intimidating haha...not sure where to start. But I'm looking at it now.
Thanks!


If Gary Cunningham doesn't know it it doesn't exist. BTW his is the book I have at the house.




So are you saying this might not be an authentic blade?
The seller is waiting to ship because I had some questions.
I won it for $80 so if you think it might be a fake I'll pass.
Thanks for all the help so far!

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Posted: 7/10/2012 10:17:23 AM
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Originally Posted By comma:
Originally Posted By PanzerOfDoom:
Originally Posted By comma:
Originally Posted By PanzerOfDoom:
The marks on the scabbard indicate Taiwan manufacture.

American Fork & Hoe. Early war were 16" and cut down, most had the date stamp. Yours is prolly late after 1943 or so. I'll look it up when I get home, my bayonet book is at home, I'm at work.

Sometimes there is stuff stamped very low under the blade guard.

Look here. he is the M-1 boyonet guru:

http://www.usmilitaryknives.com/bayonet_points.htm


Ya I thought it was strange that it wasn't dated.
Would love any other info you have when you get the chance!
The link you gave is a little intimidating haha...not sure where to start. But I'm looking at it now.
Thanks!


If Gary Cunningham doesn't know it it doesn't exist. BTW his is the book I have at the house.




So are you saying this might not be an authentic blade?
The seller is waiting to ship because I had some questions.
I won it for $80 so if you think it might be a fake I'll pass.
Thanks for all the help so far!



Yes, it is authentic. It is a WW2 produced bayonet, it was just likely made between 1943 and 1945, when date markings were not required by the army. Also, $80 is a fair price, that one looks to be original finish. The $65 CMP bayonets are a real crapshoot, some are worn flat out, others are refinished in ugly black Greek parkerizing. This bayonet looks real good, I would buy it for $80 all day long.

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Posted: 7/10/2012 10:25:12 AM
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Originally Posted By PanzerOfDoom:
Originally Posted By comma:
Originally Posted By PanzerOfDoom:
The marks on the scabbard indicate Taiwan manufacture.

American Fork & Hoe. Early war were 16" and cut down, most had the date stamp. Yours is prolly late after 1943 or so. I'll look it up when I get home, my bayonet book is at home, I'm at work.

Sometimes there is stuff stamped very low under the blade guard.

Look here. he is the M-1 boyonet guru:

http://www.usmilitaryknives.com/bayonet_points.htm


Ya I thought it was strange that it wasn't dated.
Would love any other info you have when you get the chance!
The link you gave is a little intimidating haha...not sure where to start. But I'm looking at it now.
Thanks!


If Gary Cunningham doesn't know it it doesn't exist. BTW his is the book I have at the house.




So are you saying this might not be an authentic blade?
The seller is waiting to ship because I had some questions.
I won it for $80 so if you think it might be a fake I'll pass.
Thanks for all the help so far!



Yes, it is authentic. It is a WW2 produced bayonet, it was just likely made between 1943 and 1945, when date markings were not required by the army. Also, $80 is a fair price, that one looks to be original finish. The $65 CMP bayonets are a real crapshoot, some are worn flat out, others are refinished in ugly black Greek parkerizing. This bayonet looks real good, I would buy it for $80 all day long.



Cool. Thanks!