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Posted: 6/20/2012 8:29:36 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 8:33:31 AM EDT
[#1]
Very cool!
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 8:34:50 AM EDT
[#2]
Just FYI   There is more appearent felt recoil from the models which have the traditional narrow curved butt than than the similar ones which have the wide flatter butt. I use different loads in them because of that.
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 8:36:06 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/20/2012 8:36:56 AM EDT
[#4]
That's an awesome story!!
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 8:37:42 AM EDT
[#5]
Very interesting.  He certainly looks like he had fun.

I never introduced my kids to black powder, over the past few years I'm starting to think that was a mistake.   (so many guns, so little time)
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 8:38:32 AM EDT
[#6]
Fine looking bear-slayer, there.

Good stuff, O_P.
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 8:38:49 AM EDT
[#7]
Excellent, I love the traditional muzzle loaders.

Watch for clearance sales on black powder stuff at Wal Mart, after black powder season they dump the BP stuff cheap.
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 8:40:29 AM EDT
[#8]
Is that a LH muzzleloader?  I've never seen the hammer/lock assembly on that side of one before?

I like the ignition to happen opposite of my face!
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 8:55:38 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/20/2012 8:55:45 AM EDT
[#10]
Are you adopting more grandchildren?  I miss my grandfathers.

Great post as always O_P
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 9:00:04 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/20/2012 9:00:30 AM EDT
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Are you adopting more grandchildren?  I miss my grandfathers.

Great post as always O_P


All of this.

Plus...

I don't own any black powder firearms, and everytime I see something like this, I'm reminded that I should.  
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 9:11:39 AM EDT
[#13]
Next rifle should be the Kodiak

You know, incase the bears down at the coast like to travel in pairs
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 9:17:38 AM EDT
[#14]
Just a couple of ideas.  I did not look up the barrel twist of that rifle, but a lot of stuff today has way too fast of twist for traditional patch and ball.  I think a lot of stuff is going faster than 1:48 and patch and ball works better with a slower twist.  Ok not a big issue unless you increase the range a bit.



Once he gets his head down on the stock to insure a proper cheek weld, the left handed lock is going to put the spark a tad closer to his face.  Wear glasses, the black stuff washes off...



My stepdaughter is a lefty.  I have her shooting an under-hammer - but it leaves her wrist black.  Such is life.


 
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 9:18:26 AM EDT
[#15]
I want to call you pawpaw
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 9:22:33 AM EDT
[#16]
Hope he doesn't dislocate his shoulder shooting that.. CYS will have a field day with that.
 
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 9:25:10 AM EDT
[#17]
That rifle looks like Hatchet Jack's....................

Link Posted: 6/20/2012 9:28:17 AM EDT
[#18]
I have a Traditions Hawken in .54. Looks identical to yours, OP, except is correct handed. Use a musket nipple and cap for sure fire reliability.
 
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 9:29:35 AM EDT
[#19]
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Hope he doesn't dislocate his shoulder shooting that.. CYS will have a field day with that.  


Unlikely. I shot muzzleloaders when I was in the scouts at about the same age. Black powder is a great way to introduce young shooters, as the slower pace of fire (due to how long reloading takes) forces them to really pay attention and make shots count.

I keep looking at reproduction civil war-era revolvers, and this post has me thinking about that again.
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 9:33:23 AM EDT
[#20]
In this are that would be a good buy. Until recently my parents would set up a "trading post" at rendezvous and re-enactments. I believe my father would routinely sell those for $250-$300. Also, good on ya for teaching the boy the old ways. Gotta know your history to appreciate your present and care about your future.
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 9:35:00 AM EDT
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In this are that would be a good buy. Until recently my parents would set up a "trading post" at rendezvous and re-enactments. I believe my father would routinely sell those for $250-$300. Also, good on ya for teaching the boy the old ways. Gotta know your history to appreciate your present and care about your future.


Seriously, after spending time at the range larboring over loading and firing a muzzle loader, just imagine the appreciation such a shooter will have for a magazine fed semiautomatic.
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 9:38:19 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/20/2012 9:38:33 AM EDT
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Is that a LH muzzleloader?  I've never seen the hammer/lock assembly on that side of one before?

I like the ignition to happen opposite of my face!


"I noticed that the rifle is actually a left hand model, but that only means that the lock is on the left side and that shouldn’t be a problem."



 RIF...
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 9:39:03 AM EDT
[#24]
Cool.  I have one of those, same caliber even.  
 
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 10:24:18 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/20/2012 10:25:26 AM EDT
[#26]
You're a cool grandpa.
 
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 10:30:17 AM EDT
[#27]
Old_Painless, will you be my Pappaw? I lost my original one in 2003. You and he would have gotten along marvelously.
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 10:31:14 AM EDT
[#28]
Good job. It looks like he had fun.

Keep up the good work.
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 10:31:37 AM EDT
[#29]
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In this are that would be a good buy. Until recently my parents would set up a "trading post" at rendezvous and re-enactments. I believe my father would routinely sell those for $250-$300. Also, good on ya for teaching the boy the old ways. Gotta know your history to appreciate your present and care about your future.


Seriously, after spending time at the range larboring over loading and firing a muzzle loader, just imagine the appreciation such a shooter will have for a magazine fed semiautomatic.


Not to mention what balls and determination it took to line up against a better trained army of Redcoats with one and fight to be free.
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 10:42:23 AM EDT
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Just FYI   There is more appearent felt recoil from the models which have the traditional narrow curved butt than than the similar ones which have the wide flatter butt. I use different loads in them because of that.


You are certainly correct.

Those curved buttstocks look nice, but they kick like a mule.



My TC hawken kicks like a mule with 50 grain of RS and round ball.  I tried Buffalo bullet with 80 grain and I was crying from gun slapping shoulder and my cheek.

Link Posted: 6/20/2012 10:49:34 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/20/2012 10:55:22 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/20/2012 10:58:29 AM EDT
[#33]
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You're a cool grandpa.  


Edit:  I remember fondly shooting with my grandfather.  We lost him Christmas day last year and I still miss him every single day.  

This sort of thing will be a memory Andrew will cherish forever.
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 11:03:12 AM EDT
[#34]
Cool. Thanks OP
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 11:04:42 AM EDT
[#35]
Did you hit the target OP? Or was that picture intentionally not included

Cool setup. I remember being a kid at summer festival things around here with guys shooting blackpower guns. Lots of smoke and fire!
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 11:06:26 AM EDT
[#36]
hahahahah, he shot the bear in the wiener!
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 11:08:45 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/20/2012 11:09:48 AM EDT
[#38]
Hey! I have a Hawken rifle built from a kit, and it might even be a Traditions





I could hit a steel gong standing, repeatedly, at 200 yards




 
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 11:50:17 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:

My TC hawken kicks like a mule with 50 grain of RS and round ball.  I tried Buffalo bullet with 80 grain and I was crying from gun slapping shoulder and my cheek.



What caliber? If it's one of the Hawkens with a barrel that is 15/16th across the flats, then you should totally sell it to me. Cheap.


OP, I love this thread. I have a couple of caplocks and love shooting them.
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 12:34:48 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/20/2012 12:39:10 PM EDT
[#41]





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Hope he doesn't dislocate his shoulder shooting that.. CYS will have a field day with that.  






Unlikely. I shot muzzleloaders when I was in the scouts at about the same age. Black powder is a great way to introduce young shooters, as the slower pace of fire (due to how long reloading takes) forces them to really pay attention and make shots count.





I keep looking at reproduction civil war-era revolvers, and this post has me thinking about that again.



I agree. One great thing about  muzzleloaders is you can vary how hot of a load you want to shoot pretty easily.





If  I walk into a store that has cap and ball revolvers, I try to avoid the display and  leave as quickly as possible  before I buy one or three.





 
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 12:45:25 PM EDT
[#42]
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You're a cool grandpa.  


Edit:  I remember fondly shooting with my grandfather.  We lost him Christmas day last year and I still miss him every single day.  

This sort of thing will be a memory Andrew will cherish forever.


Same with me.

I hope Andrew remembers our times together, all his life.



I'm sure he will.  Here's a picture of my grandfather with his favorite hunting rifle, a Savage Model 99 chambered in .300 Savage.



Shooting with family is fun.

Link Posted: 6/20/2012 12:54:57 PM EDT
[#43]
You are a very blessed man
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 1:31:43 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/20/2012 1:35:06 PM EDT
[#45]
Awesome post as yours always are
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 1:35:08 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/20/2012 1:40:46 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/20/2012 2:10:49 PM EDT
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Awesome post as yours always are



O-P that's great   I am looking forward to teaching my Grandson to shoot soon. He is 6 and I can't wait till he is a couple years older. I think I will start him out with my Daisy Red Ryder soon.

I just have to get his mother (my Daughter) to get over her fear of firearms. I promise to work slowly and teach him ALWAYS good firearm safety.

Great post.

Link Posted: 6/20/2012 2:17:15 PM EDT
[#49]
I called my grandfather PawPaw, and have a lot of fond memories with him. I never got the chance to go shooting with him, though.
It's great to see good childhood memories being made.
Link Posted: 6/20/2012 2:28:22 PM EDT
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Very cool!



That is one super lucky kid.

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