Are they really as good as people say they are??

I need a new (to me) vehicle and am considering one of these.

My brother has a 2000 and is still driving it with 350K.

YES

I actually think you answered all your questions in your interrogitive statement. Siple s that!

Yes, they are.

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I have a 02 almost 68k on it. Great truck for my needs wouldn't trade it for any others.  


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YES

Funny I found this. I have been thinking about an excursion. How are they on gas? I want to get something I can drive to and from work in without having to give up space. My old cherokee just sucks to much gas.

Not good.  Not good at all.

 

It’s a diesel, gas would be a bad idea.

The diesels usually get in the mid to high teens.  I can usually average a combined 16-18 with my 04 ridiing on 37's and it tickles 20 on nice long highway rides. Stop and go is really bad though, usually 12 in the city.

The V10 is usually single digit, especially with the 4.30 gear.

I wouldn't even consider the V8, not with the weight.  My X weighed 8400#'s with a 1/4 tank of fuel.

I get 24-25mpg with my 03, 7.3. Have done a few things like intake, exhaust chip ect. I l love my F250.

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Please tell me your secret. I have an 03 F250 and I get 13 on a good day. What all have you done? Feel free to PM me. It's sucking me dry.





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Depends on driving style and location.  I live in a pretty flat area with all highway. 55mp+ everywhere and almost never see stop and go.  When I do get stuck in traffic and with lights my mpg's tank

Intake, exhaust and an economy tune can do wonders.  Also depends on your rear gears.  Excursions got a 3.73 and if you go with bigger tires it really becomes an economy gear.

My 94 Cummins Dodge, reg cab 2wd averages 26mpg with just a bhaf and 5" exhaust with 80psi in E range tires.

maybe on a flat road, no stopping you peak out at 25 mpg.  13 mpg is pretty normal for real world driving.



I also shoot MOA groups all day with Wolf out of my AK.  3 shot groups.






 

LOL...beat me to it. Diesel fuel mileage claims are one of the most over inflated numbers in existence. Everyone thinks they get 25mpg uphill, with a headwind, except for those who know better.

I have the F250.  Use titfor a tow vehicle, I bought it at auction from the power company.

Bottom line, buy the truck.

Here is a fill up from by last tank with my Dodge.

That hand calculates to 26mpg.

It can happen if you have the right combo.  And a 4wd, extended cab isn't going to be able to do it. This is a 2wd regular cab that sees pretty much all highway driving, 140 miles a day on average.

My power stroke never gets out of the teens even on the same stretch.  Its just too heavy (8400#'s empty) compared to the Dodge.







Anyhow. enjoy your X - the king of SUV's!

Fuck ya

Is this a 12v? I have seen some very impressive numbers out of 2wd, regular cab, high geared 12 valves. 26 is about the best I have ever seen, but not out of the realm of possibility, if driven the right way. When I was hotshotting years ago, we had an old, first generation 12v, regular cab 2wd that would get 24mpg, no matter how you drove it. Of course, it wouldn't get out of its own way.

Yes, its a 12v with the p7100 pump.  It only has the 3.54 axle ratio and the tire is just a tad taller. (265/75 vs factory 245/75) Non-tow mirrors, all synthetic fluids, late model front air dam.

Sounds like the combo for mileage. If I recall correctly, the 1st gen I drove had 3.07ish gears...but no overdrive.

Yes but the sound get under my skin

Yeah 1st gens only had the 3 speed, the venerable A727.  I have the 47RH mechanical overdrive transmission.  With the 35 gallon tank I can run around 900 miles on one tank of fuel, although I never run it that low.  Usually fill up at a 1/4 or so.  I have been thinking about hooking up my 80 gallon auxiliary tank too just for laughs, but the added weight will probably hurt mpg's a lot.

Had a 2k F250 with the 7.3l Diesel

The good:
Got about 15 mpg
VERY solid truck, built wise
VERY safe truck
Lots of power
Able to tow a significant amount
Comfortable for several people to ride in, great interior
Interior of engine is rock solid and will last forever (had glowplugs replaced and according to the mechanic, the heads and everything looked to be in perfect condition and had many years of life left)
The sound.  I sincerely miss the sound of it.  When the turbo would spool up and would whistle....mmmmm

The BAD (and reason I was happy to get rid of it):
EVERY part you buy will be expensive - do not even think about taking it to a dealer, you will pay a small fortune to have any work done on it.  Doing the work yourself like I did was not much cheaper, every part was expensive.
A quick rundown of what I had to replace (over 8 years of use, putting about 130k miles on it in that time): 5 alternators, 2 sets of batteries, 2 starters, 4 glow plug relays, 1 torque converter, 1 tranny rebuild, 1 water pump (the mechanic could not believe the price of a replacement water pump for the 7.3l), 2 new exhaust systems, 1 new downpipe, 3 window motors, 1 window track, 2 speakers, 2 full sets of shocks, 3 full sets of rotors, 8 full sets of brake pads, 5 new brake calipers, 3 sets of tires (only reason I put this here is because the price of tires in the proper ply for these trucks is laughable expensive), 3 sets of auto lock hubs, 2 wheel bearings, and finally EVERY other possible sensor and relay under the hood and that is NOT an exaggeration.  It nickel and dimed me to death.  Before the folks say I was driving it too hard - I drove it like an old woman doing my best to preserve the truck and preserve my milage since it was a commuter truck.
In cold weather, even with a functioning block heater, it would be tempermental - even with diesel additive to stop it from gelling.  
Turning radius of a battle tank.

My best advice, be prepared for what you are getting into before you get it.

Thread is relevant to my interests. I'll be needing a truck to tow a race car (maybe sometimes a bronco too and eventually an enclosed race trailer) in the not too distant future that will likely double as a commuter. Going to be 2wd crew cab short bed of some flavor. Love my dads 05 cummins which is exactly like what I want but man do they command a premium used.

Had a 2000 F250 Powerstroke 6spd and I got 18 mpg average with 35" tires. I had custom tunes, intake, exhuast etc. I miss that truck and will buy another one for my next. 7.3 is a great motor, my only concern would be the auto trans. I would go for it though, just make sure the trans isnt about to crap on ya.

From someone who actually owns a 7.3 Xcursion, yes, they are awesome.

Tons of room, close to 5 tons, you can pull anything, and good mileage with a few mods.

That and the 7.3 will last forever with normal maintenance.

On a side note, the 7.3 was offered partway through the 2003 line.

 

Excursions are awesome!  You will love it. Go and buy it!


This one is getting a 5.9 cummins to replace the 6.0 that's in it now.

My 02 F-250 has 287,000 on it and running great.  The 7.3's are awesome.

The 6.0's are great too, if you correct the mistakes FoMoCo made when it shoehorned the VT365 into a pickup.

I like this conversion. did you do the work yourself? did you buy a kit or piece it together? does it bring in more fresh air?



 

The BAD (and reason I was happy to get rid of it):
EVERY part you buy will be expensive - do not even think about taking it to a dealer, you will pay a small fortune to have any work done on it.  Doing the work yourself like I did was not much cheaper, every part was expensive.
A quick rundown of what I had to replace (over 8 years of use, putting about 130k miles on it in that time): 5 alternators, 2 sets of batteries, 2 starters, 4 glow plug relays, 1 torque converter, 1 tranny rebuild, 1 water pump (the mechanic could not believe the price of a replacement water pump for the 7.3l), 2 new exhaust systems, 1 new downpipe, 3 window motors, 1 window track, 2 speakers, 2 full sets of shocks, 3 full sets of rotors, 8 full sets of brake pads, 5 new brake calipers, 3 sets of tires (only reason I put this here is because the price of tires in the proper ply for these trucks is laughable expensive), 3 sets of auto lock hubs, 2 wheel bearings, and finally EVERY other possible sensor and relay under the hood and that is NOT an exaggeration.  It nickel and dimed me to death.  Before the folks say I was driving it too hard - I drove it like an old woman doing my best to preserve the truck and preserve my milage since it was a commuter truck.
In cold weather, even with a functioning block heater, it would be tempermental - even with diesel additive to stop it from gelling.  
Turning radius of a battle tank.

My best advice, be prepared for what you are getting into before you get it.[/quote]

That is a lot of bad;  I mean really bad

Every now and then, I fancy the idea of a big diesel but the thoughts of it out of warranty are daunting to me.

Every one I know with a Diesel Excursion swears they will never get rid of it and they will keep it running forever.

Ford was stupid to cave in to the Greens and discontinue that vehicle.  It has loyalty companies kill for.

This.
When one comes up for sale 7.3 or 6.0 people knock each other down to try and buy it.

Please Ford hear My prayer.
Make an Excursion again with the new 6.7 Scorpion engine and you wont be able to keep up with sales.

Yes I did the conversion myself.  I bought each piece individually from the Ford dealer. It is not a bolt on.  You will need a plasma cutter, tig welder and some fabrication skills to make brackets and spacers and such. It brings in a ton of air + there is a lot more room between the grill and intercooler/radiators so you can add a big electric pusher fan as well.

Holy crap! Are they THIS good?

2000 Excursion Diesel


That's twice what KBB says a private party should expect from a similarly configured vehicle.

my gf drives a 2000 F-350 7.3L dually with 80K.  It is a very dependable truck and it is strong.  We call it sluggo though (in an endearing way) because my Cummins (also a dually) can out pull and out run it. Still, it never gives us any problems.

Looks like a clean Eddie Bauer.  One of my friends has one exactly like it - 7.3, White, Tan Leather.  Did plenty of camping trips and deer hunting with that vehicle - you can fit 6 dudes, +6' tall and still carry all their gear.

It will sell, maybe not $25K, but it will get offers.

I enjoy the hell out of mine. Sure - its overkill for a milk run, but it is the ultimate trip truck. Removing the 3rd row makes it a rolling apartment.
It has a shade under 200K now, but I've only put on 20K personally. A couple little issues, but no expensive failures yet.

If that is what you think is a "solid built" truck, I'd hate to see one you thought wasn't solidly built.

Did you mean "solid built" as in no rattles etc.?

Thats a clean truck being sold on a dealer lot.
Low miles.

Might not go for 25 but that would sell all day long at 18-20k.
They will probably let it go for 21k and get it.
It will sell someone who wants it and wont find a cleaner one easily.

The 7.3 though older is WAY more desirable than the same truck that is newer with a 6.0.
Market price reflects that.