DHS to buy 7,000 5.56x45mm NATO “personal defense weapons”

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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - DHS to buy 7,000 5.56x45mm NATO “personal defense weapons”

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:04:28 PM EDT

…to go along with those 450 million rounds of ammo.

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:06:45 PM EDT

[#1]

Every firearm to be tested with 4000 rounds of ammo?

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:07:08 PM EDT

[#2]

Was the Magpul PDW 5.56? Would seem to be a good fit if it was.

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:08:16 PM EDT

[#3]

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Was the Magpul PDW 5.56? Would seem to be a good fit if it was.

Yeah, I dig the layout on that thing. Granted, Masume Shirow called and wanted to talk about this thing called a "Seburo" he designed back in the mid 80's, might look familiar.

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:09:58 PM EDT

[#4]

Sgt Major Plumley said that there would be plenty laying on the ground.

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:10:16 PM EDT

[#5]

I didn't know there was a 5.56 PDW... pics?

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:10:52 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
Every firearm to be tested with 4000 rounds of ammo?

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ZJc2pzQ4CWw/T0BgQKQr7JI/AAAAAAAAAeE/9HhUGSM0VtA/s450/My-mind-is-full-of-fuck.jpg

I may not have read it correctly, but those 450m rounds weren't all 5.56....

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:11:37 PM EDT

[#7]

And let the tin-foilery begin!

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:11:53 PM EDT

[#8]

Coming soon to a highway checkpoint near you.

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:12:09 PM EDT

[#9]

Should they need a PDW, DHS is gonna need a lot more than 7k of them.

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:13:11 PM EDT

[#10]

They need to arm the guards at the FEMA camps....

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Posted: 6/12/2012 12:13:13 PM EDT

[#11]

We must protect the Homeland, comrade.

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:13:33 PM EDT

[#12]

Strange.

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:13:41 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
Coming soon to a highway checkpoint near you.

The FIST program, eh? "Firearms Inspections Stop Terrorism."

Matthew Bracken, please call your office.

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:14:01 PM EDT

[#14]

And if memory serves they issued this same contract a year ago. And a year before that.

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:14:07 PM EDT

[#15]

Sweet, looking forward to seeing what comes out of this.

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:14:14 PM EDT

[#16]

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They need to arm the guards at the FEMA camps....

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That's what belt-fed weapons are for. In towers. Much better than some folding stock SBR.

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:14:26 PM EDT

[#17]

US Coast Guard: 41,873
Secret Service: 4,400
CBP: 58,000+
ICE: 20,546.

As a comparison, the NYPD has 36,000 officers.

So 7,000 rifles when you have a big staff isn't really a lot of rifles.

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:14:34 PM EDT

[#18]

Spenden all da Benjamins' before the next administration finds a new darling agency.

W. Bush was DOD, Clinton was DOJ, old Bush CIA...

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:15:15 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:
Coming soon to a highway checkpoint near you.

no kidding, america is about to get FIST fucked

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:15:17 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Every firearm to be tested with 4000 rounds of ammo?

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ZJc2pzQ4CWw/T0BgQKQr7JI/AAAAAAAAAeE/9HhUGSM0VtA/s450/My-mind-is-full-of-fuck.jpg

I may not have read it correctly, but those 450m rounds weren't all 5.56....

I don't recall how many were 5.56mm and how many were 40 .cal, but I do recall a lot of people who couldn't be bothered to learn what "IDIQ" means.

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:15:23 PM EDT

[#21]

OH MY GOD DID HE SAY "PDW"????!!!!! NOT POSSIBLE BECAUSE I NEVER HEARDEDEDED OF SUCH THING!

Attention dumbasses. The term "personal defense weapon" is obviously being used to achieve a degree of politically correctness since "Constitution and puppy hating gubbermint thug People slayers" might not be the best descriptor. I'm sorry if that doesn't fit in with your giant collection of GunzNAmmo but they are simply talking about some kind of 5.56mm platform, probably an AR of some type.

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:17:17 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
Coming soon to a highway checkpoint near you.

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:17:36 PM EDT

[#23]

they need to upstage the Department of Education.

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:17:56 PM EDT

[#24]

a two-day window to respond? Looks like they already know what they want and are just going through the motions.

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:20:46 PM EDT

[#25]

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a two-day window to respond? Looks like they already know what they want and are just going through the motions.

That's pretty much how these things work.

spring loaded procurement is much easier to work in terms of graft, kickbacks, and designing the spec to the gun you already want to choose.

I do find it a little disconcerting that DHS wants "close quarters" fighting weapons. Where in the fuck does that fit into their mandate?

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:21:50 PM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Coming soon to a highway checkpoint near you.

no kidding, america is about to get FIST fucked

Hehe I JUST finished the trilogy. Should I delay my trip to West Tennessee?

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:25:05 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
a two-day window to respond? Looks like they already know what they want and are just going through the motions.

That's pretty much how these things work.

spring loaded procurement is much easier to work in terms of graft, kickbacks, and designing the spec to the gun you already want to choose.

I do find it a little disconcerting that DHS wants "close quarters" fighting weapons. Where in the fuck does that fit into their mandate?

You can't see any reason any guy in any agency in DHS would need to be up close weaponry?

Look at the list of who's under DHS again.

Also, if you make a somewhat basicproduct like an AR-15 every day and can't fill in the blanks and turn around a RFP in two days then I wouldn't want to pick you anyway. It's not like they have to come up with a whole new management strategy or something.

ETA: Never mine, it's a month long response time. That's plenty of time for anybody.

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:26:15 PM EDT

[#28]

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a two-day window to respond? Looks like they already know what they want and are just going through the motions.

The article said the order was posted on June 7th with a response due date of July 9th.

So, just over a month.

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:28:34 PM EDT

[#29]

Well if you don't give then your papers you get see the muzzle of those new rifles

PAPERS!!!!

Posted: 6/12/2012 12:35:24 PM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:
they need to upstage the Department of Education.

When the DOE starts issuing rifles I expect to be the first in my district to get one.

Posted: 6/12/2012 1:41:37 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
a two-day window to respond? Looks like they already know what they want and are just going through the motions.

The article said the order was posted on June 7th with a response due date of July 9th.

So, just over a month.

Doh, I am the reading fail

Posted: 6/13/2012 9:04:20 AM EDT

[#32]

BTT for the day late crowd.

Posted: 6/13/2012 9:53:11 AM EDT

[#33]

bump

Posted: 6/13/2012 7:58:10 PM EDT

[#34]

Sorry to interupt with talk of guns. It was called the PDR and it is 5.56. The gun in the picture is just a rapid prototype model. There is more info and pics out on the web.

Posted: 6/13/2012 8:05:42 PM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:
Sorry to interupt with talk of guns. It was called the PDR and it is 5.56. The gun in the picture is just a rapid prototype model. There is more info and pics out on the web.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=40663

Man, I love this gun. I sure hope someone builds one, eventually.
LaRue, BCM, anybody?

Posted: 6/13/2012 8:30:35 PM EDT

[#36]

Better bury our MREs in the yard.

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