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Posted: 6/5/2012 10:34:03 PM EDT

[#1]

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Pubic hair on your face, enough said

Is this you?

Posted: 6/5/2012 10:36:56 PM EDT

[#2]

The idea that beards are "unprofessional" is propogated by people that beleive "professionalism" (whatever that is) can be measured by adherence to a set of arbitrary rules.

Posted: 6/5/2012 10:38:57 PM EDT

[#3]

run your own business and you can set whatever rules you want

Posted: 6/5/2012 10:43:42 PM EDT

[#4]

not quite sure. Beards are manly, and stubble is considered sexy by women.

thats why I always have at least 1

Posted: 6/5/2012 10:47:26 PM EDT

[#5]

Scruffy

Posted: 6/5/2012 10:50:59 PM EDT

[#6]

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They aren't.

in some professions they are

Posted: 6/5/2012 10:56:56 PM EDT

[#7]

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Blame religious people in the 19teens.

The ones who say things like wearing beards, drinking, and associating with sinners are all evil... despite the fact that Jesus did all those things.

Which is funny because the bible says that........

1 Corinthians 11:14

Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him

And before all the bible thumpers get on me I am just pointing out one of the many contradictions that are in the bible.

I don't see the contradiction. At all.
The Bible does not say that Jesus had long hair. That's a medieval tradition.
It says he did not shave his forelocks in obedience to the Law, not the same thing at all.

Posted: 6/6/2012 3:45:48 AM EDT

[#8]

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My job requires that I be able to wear half-mask, full and SCBA at any given time, so a beard is no go.
I wish I was back in college

Oxygen mask will not seal with a beard.

Posted: 6/6/2012 3:46:22 AM EDT

[#9]

First post

Posted: 6/6/2012 3:49:45 AM EDT

[#10]

I wear a beard (goatee), and I'm a professional. If another man takes the time to care about how I wear my facial hair, then he is a sissy and probably a reach-arounder.

Posted: 6/6/2012 3:53:11 AM EDT

[#11]

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I think it stems partly from the military. And partly from the dirty hippies of the 70s giving beards a bad name. And lastly, because many of the people that wear beards don't bother keeping them neat. A well groomed beard is nothing bad, IMO. Grizzly Adams is something else altogether.

I dunno. The Grizz had a pretty neat beard going on there. Thick, but not unkept.

But I agree, I think a lot of it is military anti-beard bias. Especially when they start trying to make the civilians look just like the soldiers & sailors.

Posted: 6/6/2012 3:57:39 AM EDT

[#12]

They are common in my field, even on some of the women.

I've had one since 2005, but it is starting to turn a bit grey on the chin these days. But we don't wear expensive flimsy suits and over-priced shoes either, that's a whole different crowd (don't know why they don't like beards).

I can see not allowing them when gas masks or filter masks are required.

Posted: 6/6/2012 4:01:03 AM EDT

[#13]

Not allowed to have one in my line of work. SCBA mask does not seal to the face properly and causes loss of copious amounts of air. It's nice having good cleaning breathing air in a fire.

Posted: 6/6/2012 4:03:42 AM EDT

[#14]

I go back and forth with my beard......during the fall and winter I usually have one, during the warmer months I shave. I have a "professional" job, I never get any flack over it.

I don't look like a stinking hippy though.

Posted: 6/6/2012 4:03:45 AM EDT

[#15]

Beards are considered unprofessional? News to me. I have a beard, and I have never felt in any way that it is unprofessional, and neither have any of my coworkers, some of whom also have beards and/or mustaches.

Besides, my wife LOVES my beard.

Posted: 6/6/2012 4:05:32 AM EDT

[#16]

Sort of like wearing a hat has a sort of stigma in today's culture, but you go back 80yrs or so and every man wore a hat and a suit for that matter.

Posted: 6/6/2012 4:05:33 AM EDT

[#17]

Billy Mays does not believe that beards are unprofessional.

Posted: 6/6/2012 4:07:27 AM EDT

[#18]

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My company made me shave mine off. Said beards presented an unprofessional appearance in a military environment.

I was proud of my beard.

I work with the military 100% of the time. I rock a beard and so do most of my colleagues.

Posted: 6/6/2012 4:09:05 AM EDT

[#19]

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I think it stems partly from the military. And partly from the dirty hippies of the 70s giving beards a bad name. And lastly, because many of the people that wear beards don't bother keeping them neat. A well groomed beard is nothing bad, IMO. Grizzly Adams is something else altogether.

Sorry to bust your bubble, but beards among "straight people" were even rarer before the hippies. Likewise with any haircut longer than a crewcut. The hippies actually made those things more popular among the non-hippy crowd.

This was maybe true during the 50's and at literally no other time in history, ever

Posted: 6/6/2012 4:09:32 AM EDT

[#20]

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Sort of like wearing a hat has a sort of stigma in today's culture, but you go back 80yrs or so and every man wore a hat and a suit for that matter.

I agree with the modern hat stigma, but I don't agree that every man or even a majority of them wore suits 80 years ago, and many did not wear hats. Many American men did manual labor back then, mostly w/o suits.

Posted: 6/6/2012 4:10:03 AM EDT

[#21]

Just grow one of these (if you can) and tell them if it was good enough for J.L. Chamberland it should be good enough for you.

Posted: 6/6/2012 4:10:51 AM EDT

[#22]

I can't grow a full beard, it would come in patchy. So I don't. But there's a guy that I work with that can grow less than I can, and he tries to rock a full beard. It looks like he has fungus growing on his face.

Able to rock a full beard? Play on, player. Doesn't bother me any.

Posted: 6/6/2012 4:12:34 AM EDT

[#23]

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I wear a beard (goatee), and I'm a professional. If another man takes the time to care about how I wear my facial hair, then he is a sissy and probably a reach-arounder.

My thoughts exactly

Posted: 6/6/2012 4:39:42 AM EDT

[#24]

They're not unprofessional.

Also... a policy like that may be illegal depending on the job.. in consideration of race/religion/etc

U.S. Equal EmploymentOpportunity Commission

Similarly, a “no-beard” employment policy may discriminate against African-American men who have a predisposition to pseudofolliculitis barbae (severe shaving bumps) unless the policy is job-related and consistent with business necessity. http://www.eeoc.gov/facts/fs-race.html

Auto Dealer Failed to Hired Qualified Applicant Because He Refused to Shave His Beard Because of His Sikh Religious Faith, Federal Agency Charges. http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/newsroom/release/9-28-10h.cfm

Posted: 6/6/2012 4:54:33 AM EDT

[#25]

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Because men are no longer allowed to be men.

I thought everyone here shaved their junk, why can't they shave the face too?

Posted: 6/6/2012 4:54:48 AM EDT

[#26]

I recently had to shave mine that I had for 6 years. It was for a new job but I am going to grow it back for the summer.

Posted: 6/6/2012 5:01:45 AM EDT

[#27]

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Why don't you ask that SOB Admiral James D Watkins?

I told a buddy of mine who had a beard before he went in to ask about Admiral Elmo Zumwalt. He received an angry glare, then was told to get back to work.

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Just read that Watkins said "the Navy can have beards when the Marines have beards". So really, we just needed to bring back the Raiders.

Posted: 6/6/2012 5:01:51 AM EDT

[#28]

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Because men are no longer allowed to be men.

I thought everyone here shaved their junk, why can't they shave the face too?

What if I shave my junk but wear a beard?

Mindblowing....

Posted: 6/6/2012 5:04:40 AM EDT

[#29]

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My workplace does not allow beards, but they do allow mustaches. So of course I have one. Because men have mustaches.

I cite Magnum P.I. As evidence

ETA: it's funnier because I'm 25 and my mustache and sideburns are far less professional than a beard.

Freddie Mercury thinks so, too.

Freddie Mercury was awesome though, even if he did prefer the cock.

Posted: 6/6/2012 5:05:17 AM EDT

[#30]

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My job requires that I be able to wear half-mask, full and SCBA at any given time, so a beard is no go.
I wish I was back in college

Respirators are the same reason I am unable to have a beard. I might used mine once or twice a year, but I am required to keep trimmed up so that in the event I need one, it will seal properly. We are allowed mustaches and goatees, as long as they don't interfer with the seal. They had slacked up for a while on requirements, and I was sporting well trimmed sideburns that went down along my jaw line and connected to my mustache, but kept the chin itself shaved. Now, I just run a mustache that I run down to my chin.

Posted: 6/6/2012 5:07:41 AM EDT

[#31]

Because of talentless attention-seeking wastes of oxygen like these hipster fucks...

Posted: 6/6/2012 5:10:30 AM EDT

[#32]

If you're going to have a beard DO IT RIGHT like these guys:

Posted: 6/6/2012 5:11:40 AM EDT

[#33]

How many men do you notice in a typical HR department?

There's your answer.

Posted: 6/6/2012 5:17:13 AM EDT

[#34]

When did a well groomed beard become unprofessional? We can't wear them in uniform, did that somehow get transfereed to the civilian sector? Hell, as noted beards used to be standard in the military as well.

Oh well, I will have one when I retire.

Posted: 6/6/2012 5:18:28 AM EDT

[#35]

New guy at work was rocking a beard, until the second day when I took him to a refinery and he had to shave it off with a well-used razor and no soap

http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/anim_rofl2.gif

Posted: 6/6/2012 5:19:37 AM EDT

[#36]

The only police officer I've EVER known/seen with a beard was undercover, why is that?

I have a 'stache and goatee, just because it's "in" and allowed at my job, whereas a full beard is not.

Posted: 6/6/2012 5:20:27 AM EDT

[#37]

I have a beard and have done quite well for myself. F anyone who doesnt like it!

Posted: 6/6/2012 5:21:10 AM EDT

[#38]

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My company made me shave mine off. Said beards presented an unprofessional appearance in a military environment.

I was proud of my beard.

Apparently you don't work for a tier 1 employer

Posted: 6/6/2012 5:41:03 AM EDT

[#39]

My company requires me to have a beard... of course I own the company!

Posted: 6/6/2012 5:45:19 AM EDT

[#40]

I am going on 8 months of zero grooming, beard is getting out of control, hair is getting towards hippie likeness, and my wife complains that food is always on my face and my face looks like a 70's vigiana! FUCK what people think, I like that I look like a homeless man, keeps people at a distance

Posted: 6/6/2012 5:46:37 AM EDT

[#41]

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My company requires me to have a beard... of course I own the company!

Posted: 6/6/2012 5:51:57 AM EDT

[#42]

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Pubic hair on your face, enough said

A certain woman in my life loves to have her pubes on my face.

Posted: 6/6/2012 5:53:57 AM EDT

[#43]

Fuck it. You all have convinced me, I am growing a FULL beard.
SERIOUSLY

Posted: 6/6/2012 6:04:17 AM EDT

[#44]

Quoted:

The idea that beards are "unprofessional" is propogated by people that beleive "professionalism" (whatever that is) can be measured by adherence to a set of arbitrary rules.

bingo

I'm sporting ~2 months worth of beard - but I have to shave it the week after next...... fml I'm loving having it

Posted: 6/6/2012 6:12:18 AM EDT

[#45]

A legitimate beard, trimmed neatly, is not considered unprofessional AFAIK

Scruffy hipster beards and the 2 days growth stuff does look silly though.
Speed

Posted: 6/6/2012 6:13:04 AM EDT

[#46]

I work for a three-letter .gov agency. I wear a suit daily. I also wear a full beard and my hair long enough so it touches my collar. Many of my fellow workers also have beards.

On the other hand, lots of the young dudes go totally bald. Guess it is cool with the ladies now. I'm old...what do I know?

Posted: 6/6/2012 6:13:54 AM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:
The idea that beards are "unprofessional" is propogated by people that beleive "professionalism" (whatever that is) can be measured by adherence to a set of arbitrary rules.

Posted: 6/6/2012 6:14:36 AM EDT

[#48]

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I work for a three-letter .gov agency. I wear a suit daily. I also wear a full beard and my hair long enough so it touches my collar. Many of my fellow workers also have beards.

On the other hand, lots of the young dudes go totally bald. Guess it is cool with the ladies now. I'm old...what do I know?

EPA?

no that can't be it....

FDA - that's it..... do they make you use the little beard nets?