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Posted: 6/5/2012 3:10:38 PM
Anyone know how long being delayed at Walmart normally takes to hear back from? Got delayed a few months back, but the gun store followed the 5 day rule and it's yours. Walmart said they have to wait till they hear back to release it to me

Found a pink cricket for 80 though, was going to the range tomorrow and taking the 6 year old daughter. Seemed like a good fit.

Stupid delay :(
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If there is no KY state law, NICS has three business days, not counting the day you submitted the form, to further research you. If NICS doesn't give a response after the three day period, the FFL can transfer the firearm.

I have been told, but can't verify, that the local Wal-Mart here in town will NOT transfer any firearm unless they get a proceed.
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Posted: 6/5/2012 3:16:24 PM
Get your concealed carry license and never go through a NICS check again.
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Posted: 6/5/2012 3:17:25 PM

Originally Posted By substandard:
If there is no KY state law, NICS has three business days, not counting the day you submitted the form, to further research you. If NICS doesn't give a response after the three day period, the FFL can transfer the firearm.

I have been told, but can't verify, that the local Wal-Mart here in town will NOT transfer any firearm unless they get a proceed.

I believe that Wal-Mart corporate policy is no approval = no sale.

It's not the law, but it is their policy.
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Posted: 6/5/2012 3:18:50 PM
Originally Posted By JCKnife:
Get your concealed carry license and never go through a NICS check again.


Didn't need while I was a LEO, just finished a month ago on course. Figure in 30 more days my concealed will come back good.
Interesting tidbit though. The guy at Walmart says they don't care about permit holders. You still get Dan though the system. Only reason I did Walmart was 80$ for the cricket is hard to pass up
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Posted: 6/5/2012 3:20:09 PM
Originally Posted By JCKnife:
Get your concealed carry license and never go through a NICS check again.


Doesn't work that way around here. At least at the store I got delayed at.

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Posted: 6/5/2012 3:29:16 PM
Originally Posted By inthe605:
Originally Posted By JCKnife:
Get your concealed carry license and never go through a NICS check again.


Doesn't work that way around here. At least at the store I got delayed at.

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Every state is different. Some permits exempt you from the check, others it doesn't.
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Posted: 6/5/2012 3:32:49 PM
Nebraska exempts you if you have your CCW. If Wal-Mart tried to tell me otherwise I'd walk out the door without my Cricket. Life's to short to get jerked around when trying to give money to someone.
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Posted: 6/5/2012 3:37:47 PM
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Nebraska exempts you if you have your CCW. If Wal-Mart tried to tell me otherwise I'd walk out the door without my Cricket. Life's to short to get jerked around when trying to give money to someone.


Thankfully I don't need to pay into the end. Walmart doesn't want the money until you clear. Unlike my local gun shop, they want themoney upfront even if you get delayed. If you clear you come back to get up in five days, if not they refund you
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Posted: 6/6/2012 4:44:57 AM
Well there ya go... there is THE law and then there is Wal-Mart law. That store remnds me of one of those futuristic flicks where some giant corporation becomes the .gov. If it ever happens it'll be Wal-Mart running things.
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Posted: 6/6/2012 4:50:42 AM
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Wal-Mart around here does not give a shit. My wife bought me a gun and she had: her maiden name on her Montana DL, married name on .mil dependant I.D., NO CCW and a copy of a water bill from my house (my name on the bill) and she had no problem buying the gun.

ETA: she walked out of the store with the gun in about 20 min.
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Posted: 7/15/2012 9:04:27 AM
Originally Posted By nugs24:
Anyone know how long being delayed at Walmart normally takes to hear back from? Got delayed a few months back, but the gun store followed the 5 day rule and it's yours. Walmart said they have to wait till they hear back to release it to me

Found a pink cricket for 80 though, was going to the range tomorrow and taking the 6 year old daughter. Seemed like a good fit.

Stupid delay :(


OP: did you get your gun? How long did it take?
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Posted: 7/15/2012 10:03:21 AM
Originally Posted By JCKnife:
Get your concealed carry license and never go through a NICS check again.


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Posted: 7/20/2012 6:57:35 PM
Originally Posted By BIG_PAPA:
Originally Posted By nugs24:
Anyone know how long being delayed at Walmart normally takes to hear back from? Got delayed a few months back, but the gun store followed the 5 day rule and it's yours. Walmart said they have to wait till they hear back to release it to me

Found a pink cricket for 80 though, was going to the range tomorrow and taking the 6 year old daughter. Seemed like a good fit.

Stupid delay :(


OP: did you get your gun? How long did it take?


Sorry, just now remembered about this. I ended up getting a call from them 4 or 5 days later. But when I went back in to pickup the gun, it had a rather long scratch on the barrel, and the stock. It looked like someone had dropped it since it had been left in the display cabinet. So I got a refund since I won't pay full price for something that I saw obvious damage from being dropped after I started the purchase process.
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Posted: 7/20/2012 6:57:48 PM
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any day now :(
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Posted: 7/20/2012 7:01:36 PM
I've never been delayed (I always give my SSN, maybe that helps?)

Anybody know what the common causes for delays are? Serious question, I honestly don't know.
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Posted: 7/20/2012 7:02:52 PM
Originally Posted By cruze5:
Originally Posted By JCKnife:
Get your concealed carry license and never go through a NICS check again.




This. I am done with a purchase in 5-10 minutes.
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Posted: 7/20/2012 7:02:54 PM
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I've never been delayed (I always give my SSN, maybe that helps?)

Anybody know what the common causes for delays are? Serious question, I honestly don't know.


Having a common name is one I've heard.
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Posted: 7/20/2012 7:06:54 PM
Originally Posted By Subnet:
I've never been delayed (I always give my SSN, maybe that helps?)

Anybody know what the common causes for delays are? Serious question, I honestly don't know.


I give my SSN each time.
But if you have been arrested, someone else has been arrested with your name/dob, someone else is a felon with the same name/dob, court cases pending, ect.

I called a "help desk" number that the gun store gave me a few months back when I got delayed there, seeing if there was anything I could do to clear it up.
A "nice lady" answered, and gave me lots of info. I sadly don't remember it all, but nothing I could change that would keep me from being delayed.
I am trying to remember if it was here or on these forums that someone said you can submit a file to stay on record with your SSN that keeps whatever delayed you from being delayed again, but that means they hold a record with your info(tin foil hat, so prob here)
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Posted: 7/20/2012 7:08:13 PM
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Nebraska exempts you if you have your CCW. If Wal-Mart tried to tell me otherwise I'd walk out the door without my Cricket. Life's to short to get jerked around when trying to give money to someone.


you're goddam right.
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Wonder how many folks would pissed off if they had to fill out a form, and have the .gov do a background check in order to exercise their right to vote.
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Posted: 7/20/2012 7:13:02 PM

Originally Posted By Subnet:
I've never been delayed (I always give my SSN, maybe that helps?)

Anybody know what the common causes for delays are? Serious question, I honestly don't know.

I've been delayed once or twice. It seems pretty random to me.
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Posted: 7/20/2012 7:30:41 PM
Originally Posted By nugs24:
Originally Posted By JCKnife:
Get your concealed carry license and never go through a NICS check again.


Didn't need while I was a LEO, just finished a month ago on course. Figure in 30 more days my concealed will come back good.
Interesting tidbit though. The guy at Walmart says they don't care about permit holders. You still get Dan though the system. Only reason I did Walmart was 80$ for the cricket is hard to pass up


I have bought several rifles from walmart and just used my CHP permit and not once did I have to do a back ground check
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Posted: 7/20/2012 8:17:44 PM
Originally Posted By nugs24:
Originally Posted By Subnet:
I've never been delayed (I always give my SSN, maybe that helps?)

Anybody know what the common causes for delays are? Serious question, I honestly don't know.


I give my SSN each time.
But if you have been arrested, someone else has been arrested with your name/dob, someone else is a felon with the same name/dob, court cases pending, ect.

I called a "help desk" number that the gun store gave me a few months back when I got delayed there, seeing if there was anything I could do to clear it up.
A "nice lady" answered, and gave me lots of info. I sadly don't remember it all, but nothing I could change that would keep me from being delayed.
I am trying to remember if it was here or on these forums that someone said you can submit a file to stay on record with your SSN that keeps whatever delayed you from being delayed again, but that means they hold a record with your info(tin foil hat, so prob here)


They already have your info, you're just not aware of it.

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Posted: 7/20/2012 8:38:43 PM
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Originally Posted By JCKnife:
Get your concealed carry license and never go through a NICS check again.


Doesn't work that way around here. At least at the store I got delayed at.

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Every state is different. Some permits exempt you from the check, others it doesn't.


Some stores ignore permits too. Mills Fleet Farm calls in a NICS check for every gun purchase-or at least, they did until they started carrying handguns, which require a purchase permit in IA. I haven't bought a gun from them since before handguns were in their stores so I don't know what current policy is.
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Posted: 7/20/2012 8:40:43 PM
Originally Posted By Subnet:
I've never been delayed (I always give my SSN, maybe that helps?)

Anybody know what the common causes for delays are? Serious question, I honestly don't know.


Been told triggers are a criminal record(more than speeding tickets but no felonies), same or similar name as a felon and owing back child support.
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1. Videotaping the Point of Sale for All Firearms Transactions. Participating retailers will videotape the point-of-sale of all firearms transactions and maintain videos for 6 months to deter illegal purchases and monitor employees.

2. Computerized Crime Gun Trace Log and Alert System. Participating retailers will maintain a computerized log of crime gun traces relating to the retailer. Once the program is in place, if a customer who has a prior trace at that retailer attempts to purchase a firearm, the sale will be electronically flagged. The retailer would have discretion to proceed with the sale or stop the sale.

3. Purchaser Declaration. For sales flagged by the trace alert system, participating retailers will ask purchasers to fill out a declaration indicating that they meet the legal requirement to purchase the firearm.

4. Deterring Fake IDs. Participating retailers will only accept valid federal- or state-issued picture IDs as primary identification. Retailers will utilize additional ID checking mechanisms.

5. Consistent Visible Signage. Participating retailers will post signage created by the Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership to alert customers of their legal responsibilities at the point-of-sale.

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7. Employee Responsibility Training. Participating retailers will participate in an employee responsibility training program focused on deterring illegal purchasers. The Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership will create an online training system based on Wal-Mart's training program.

8. Inventory Checking. Participating retailers will conduct daily and quarterly audits. Guidelines will be based on Wal-Mart's firearms audit check procedures.

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Posted: 7/20/2012 8:57:53 PM
How about this:

1. Do not buy a gun from Wal Mart. Wal Mart is for ammo.
2. Buy a gun from a local dealer that follows the 5 day rule.

Wal Mart is cool and the gang, and I support getting most goods where they are cheapest, but try to find a local dealer and support him. You can build a relationship with your local dealer. With wally world, it is all just "policy".
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Posted: 7/20/2012 9:42:01 PM
I was told at Wal-Mart and Academy that they won't sell to you if you get delayed past the time they stop selling guns that day.
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Posted: 7/20/2012 9:46:44 PM

Originally Posted By Subnet:
I've never been delayed (I always give my SSN, maybe that helps?)

Anybody know what the common causes for delays are? Serious question, I honestly don't know.

I used to always get delayed before they changed the NICS reporting scheme after the Virginia Tech shooting. Now I always get a "proceed," with a 10 or 20 minute wait at most. I think they were unable to tell the difference between disqualifying convictions and non-disqualifying ones, at least from Arkansas, at the time.
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Posted: 7/20/2012 9:49:37 PM

Originally Posted By AllserviceBilliards:
How about this:

1. Do not buy a gun from Wal Mart. Wal Mart is for ammo.
2. Buy a gun from a local dealer that follows the 5 day rule.

Wal Mart is cool and the gang, and I support getting most goods where they are cheapest, but try to find a local dealer and support him. You can build a relationship with your local dealer. With wally world, it is all just "policy".

this is how i roll too.
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Posted: 7/20/2012 9:51:57 PM
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Get your concealed carry license and never go through a NICS check again.




Not in Ohio..
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