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Posted: 4/30/2012 3:58:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/26/2012 4:13:46 AM EDT by rkbar15]
Click the links on the tour schedule for info and flight/ride times at airport.

FiFI 2012 Tour Schedule



B-29 FiFi at TiCo Airshow 2012. Watch on youtube for the 1080p HD vid.







Link Posted: 4/30/2012 6:14:20 AM EDT
I had the privilege to ride in the B17,24,25. a few years ago. Pure-sex.


The gunners seat in the 29 seems to be the best bang for the buck. Expensive, but well worth it to me. My few friends went to great lengths to tell what an asshole I am.....
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 8:04:56 AM EDT
Little pricey for my blood! But the money goes to a great cause. Cause I want to see this bird keep flying!
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 8:14:29 AM EDT
I wish I could afford that right now.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 8:20:12 AM EDT
I think I paid $400 last year for a B17 ride, sadly it burned up a few weeks later.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 8:27:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/30/2012 9:23:37 AM EDT by rkbar15]

Originally Posted By fatboy79:
I think I paid $400 last year for a B17 ride, sadly it burned up a few weeks later.

Statement from Liberty Foundation Chief Pilot




Link Posted: 5/5/2012 4:55:01 AM EDT
$600 per person? Fuck!
Link Posted: 5/5/2012 5:03:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By peekay:
$600 per person? Fuck!

The new engines were approx. 3 million dollars and it cost approx. $9000 an hour to fly FiFi.


Link Posted: 5/5/2012 5:25:50 AM EDT
One of the pilots talks about flying FiFi.

Watch on youtube for the HD vid.


Link Posted: 5/5/2012 5:31:59 AM EDT
About 35 years ago one of the of the right side engines in FiFi dripped oil on me at an airshow.

A guy in one of these jackets walked over to me, pulled a dirty rag out of his back pocket and wiped my off, saying something like "Wright Cyclone engines do that Kid"



I hate political correctness
Link Posted: 5/5/2012 5:39:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CarbineDad:
About 35 years ago one of the of the right side engines in FiFi dripped oil on me at an airshow.

A guy in one of these jackets walked over to me, pulled a dirty rag out of his back pocket and wiped my off, saying something like "Wright Cyclone engines do that Kid"


WWII warbirds mark their territory


Link Posted: 5/5/2012 5:54:50 AM EDT
Well, this thread brought back some memories.







The date's a little hard to see;

July 2nd, 1977.



I was 10.

I may have to take a ride. Thanks for posting.
Link Posted: 5/5/2012 5:58:15 AM EDT
a friend of mine just flew on FiFi, in the seat behind the Pilot. Had a great time.
best seat in the house is the bombadier, if you can afford it.
Link Posted: 5/5/2012 5:58:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By rkbar15:

Originally Posted By CarbineDad:
About 35 years ago one of the of the right side engines in FiFi dripped oil on me at an airshow.

A guy in one of these jackets walked over to me, pulled a dirty rag out of his back pocket and wiped my off, saying something like "Wright Cyclone engines do that Kid"


WWII warbirds mark their territory

http://i38.tinypic.com/ampnqs.jpg

Yep, they don't leak...they sweat horsepower.
Link Posted: 5/5/2012 6:03:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By CarbineDad:
About 35 years ago one of the of the right side engines in FiFi dripped oil on me at an airshow.

A guy in one of these jackets walked over to me, pulled a dirty rag out of his back pocket and wiped my off, saying something like "Wright Cyclone engines do that Kid"

http://www.check-six.com/images/Patch_0005.jpg

I hate political correctness


Certainly is a lot of oil dripped on the ground, at the air shows with these old war birds. Have to watch where you stand.

I will be at Reading in June, as I am every year.
Link Posted: 5/5/2012 6:05:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fatboy79:
I think I paid $400 last year for a B17 ride, sadly it burned up a few weeks later.

That same B17, me and my dad rode on...he bought us a ride as a 16th B-Day present for me.

Wouldn't trade the memories for the world. It's a shame she burned up.
Link Posted: 5/5/2012 6:07:57 AM EDT
I flew on FiFi back in 1989. I was a TV news photog, so I was up and about the whole cabin, videotaping everything. The best seat is definitely the bombardier's post.
It was one of the best and most memorable days of my life.
Link Posted: 5/5/2012 6:13:49 AM EDT
Originally Posted By rkbar15:

Originally Posted By CarbineDad:
About 35 years ago one of the of the right side engines in FiFi dripped oil on me at an airshow.

A guy in one of these jackets walked over to me, pulled a dirty rag out of his back pocket and wiped my off, saying something like "Wright Cyclone engines do that Kid"


WWII warbirds mark their territory

http://i38.tinypic.com/ampnqs.jpg


Yup. I was filming a Corsair firing up on the ramp a few years back, and got a nice little oil shower! I didn't mind though.
Link Posted: 5/5/2012 6:17:04 AM EDT
Originally Posted By JSteensen:

Originally Posted By fatboy79:
I think I paid $400 last year for a B17 ride, sadly it burned up a few weeks later.

That same B17, me and my dad rode on...he bought us a ride as a 16th B-Day present for me.

Wouldn't trade the memories for the world. It's a shame she burned up.


They will rebuild....

I saw a post earlier this week on FB.. damned if I cant find it right now.
Link Posted: 5/5/2012 6:38:24 AM EDT
I have pictures I took of Fifi's cockpit and the interior of the front half of the plane circa 1989 in a box somewhere. I should scan them and share them someday.

the B 29 is an impressive aircraft.
Link Posted: 5/5/2012 6:52:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/5/2012 7:00:03 AM EDT by callgood]
Originally Posted By RED_5:
a friend of mine just flew on FiFi, in the seat behind the Pilot. Had a great time.
best seat in the house is the bombadier, if you can afford it.


I'd opt for the Flight Observer, too. You have a view of the pilot's operations and can still see thru the nose.

No way I'd do the tail gunner. I always got motion sickness riding in the rear seat of my mom's station wagon.

There is a great 360 degree pan of the Enola Gay cockpit. Works for me with Firefox, but not IE.

Link Posted: 5/5/2012 6:58:16 AM EDT
Originally Posted By callgood:
Originally Posted By RED_5:
a friend of mine just flew on FiFi, in the seat behind the Pilot. Had a great time.
best seat in the house is the bombadier, if you can afford it.


I'd opt for the Flight Observer, too. You have a view of the pilot's operations and can still see thru the nose.

No way I'd do the tail gunner. I always got motion sickness riding in the rear seat of my mom's station wagon.



Take several Ginger pills an hour before going on a flight and you will not have any problem with motion sickness. They even proved this on
mythbusters. It is a natural anti-nausea cure.
Link Posted: 5/5/2012 7:02:15 AM EDT
If you want to read a good book on a B-29 pilot who participated in the bombings of Japan in 1945 read the book

Bringing the Thunder by Gordon Bennett Robertson. It is an excellent book. He flew 35 missions.

He also was not a big Roosevelt fan. He makes passing mention of it when relating the day Roosevelt died.
Link Posted: 5/5/2012 7:10:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/5/2012 7:10:42 AM EDT by callgood]
Originally Posted By JMD:
Originally Posted By callgood:
Originally Posted By RED_5:
a friend of mine just flew on FiFi, in the seat behind the Pilot. Had a great time.
best seat in the house is the bombadier, if you can afford it.


I'd opt for the Flight Observer, too. You have a view of the pilot's operations and can still see thru the nose.

No way I'd do the tail gunner. I always got motion sickness riding in the rear seat of my mom's station wagon.



Take several Ginger pills an hour before going on a flight and you will not have any problem with motion sickness. They even proved this on
mythbusters. It is a natural anti-nausea cure.


Shortly after I first heard about that I was working in my home office. It was summer and stuffy in the room. I started to feel nauseated so I made a tea of 1/4 teaspoon of ground ginger in a cup of hot water. Darn stuff worked!

I never get carsick, but there's something about riding in the jump seat in a station wagon that does me in. I got woozy once riding about a mile and a half in Atlanta. Once my feet hit the ground I was fine.

Side facing seats in a C130........... same thing. On the hop from Ft. Bragg to Camp Mackall I was ready to surrender.

Link Posted: 5/5/2012 7:22:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By callgood:
Originally Posted By JMD:
Originally Posted By callgood:
Originally Posted By RED_5:
a friend of mine just flew on FiFi, in the seat behind the Pilot. Had a great time.
best seat in the house is the bombadier, if you can afford it.


I'd opt for the Flight Observer, too. You have a view of the pilot's operations and can still see thru the nose.

No way I'd do the tail gunner. I always got motion sickness riding in the rear seat of my mom's station wagon.



Take several Ginger pills an hour before going on a flight and you will not have any problem with motion sickness. They even proved this on
mythbusters. It is a natural anti-nausea cure.


Shortly after I first heard about that I was working in my home office. It was summer and stuffy in the room. I started to feel nauseated so I made a tea of 1/4 teaspoon of ground ginger in a cup of hot water. Darn stuff worked!

I never get carsick, but there's something about riding in the jump seat in a station wagon that does me in. I got woozy once riding about a mile and a half in Atlanta. Once my feet hit the ground I was fine.

Side facing seats in a C130........... same thing. On the hop from Ft. Bragg to Camp Mackall I was ready to surrender.



I myself have never gotten airsick in an airplane yet but a helicopter always made me ill in the military. I flew on C-130s with no problem. But put me on a Huey or Blackhawk and I would get green around the gills. Never puked but I was glad to get off. Wish I had known about ginger supplements back in those days.
Link Posted: 5/5/2012 8:19:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/5/2012 8:20:25 AM EDT by rkbar15]

Originally Posted By callgood:

No way I'd do the tail gunner. I always got motion sickness riding in the rear seat of my mom's station wagon.

There is a great 360 degree pan of the Enola Gay cockpit. Works for me with Firefox, but not IE.


When I was a kid I used to hang my head out the car window to keep from getting car sick when I sat in the back seat.

Thanks for the EG cockpit link. It works with both IE 9 and FF 12 for me.

Link Posted: 5/6/2012 4:09:47 AM EDT
A very interesting instructional video on flying a B-29.


Link Posted: 5/6/2012 4:40:08 AM EDT
Awesome plane, but on the surface the name is
Link Posted: 5/6/2012 4:49:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By leatherman84:
Awesome plane, but on the surface the name is

"Tondelayo" was taken.


Link Posted: 5/7/2012 4:24:37 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/7/2012 4:44:50 AM EDT
Got to take a ride in a B17 a few years ago. Aluminum Overcast was in Lebanon, Tenn. Wife bought me the ride. It was awesome.
FiFi will be near me at Lexington, Ky. so it looks like a short ride up I-75 is in order.
Link Posted: 5/7/2012 4:45:07 AM EDT
Is booking a seat considered a charitable donation?
Link Posted: 5/7/2012 5:02:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/8/2012 4:33:44 AM EDT by rkbar15]

Originally Posted By scootr29:

Is booking a seat considered a charitable donation?


I think so but I'm not positive. Call or e-mail to find out for sure.

http://www.cafb29b24.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=127:living-history-bomber-rides&catid=7:publiccontent&Itemid=483

For more information call our Ride Coordinator at 432-413-4100.
Link Posted: 5/7/2012 5:21:03 AM EDT
Highly relevant to my interests tag!
Link Posted: 5/7/2012 5:22:57 AM EDT
Cool... I was in Midland back in... oh.. 2004, I think. The group I was with got to bring our cars out to the back of the hangar at the CAF Museum there. Fifi was in the hangar being worked on. It was pretty awesome to see. Wish I had some pictures.
Link Posted: 5/7/2012 7:10:26 AM EDT
Originally Posted By rkbar15:
Click the links on the tour schedule for info and flight/ride times at airport.

FiFI 2012 Tour Schedule

http://www.cafb29b24.org/images/stories/FIFIpictures/fifi.jpg

B-29 FiFi at TiCo Airshow 2012. Watch on youtube for the 1080p HD vid.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eC8HnHCTR4





Awesome! thanks for the heads up.

I just booked my Dad an observers seat on Fifi when they come to Buffalo Airport in June.

As a former defence contractor, and WWII amatur historian he is going to shit himself when I tell him!
Link Posted: 5/7/2012 8:27:13 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:

Fifi was in the hangar being worked on. It was pretty awesome to see. Wish I had some pictures.


Me too.

Originally Posted By Zoarboy:

I just booked my Dad an observers seat on Fifi when they come to Buffalo Airport in June.





Link Posted: 5/7/2012 1:17:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/7/2012 1:18:31 PM EDT by ridinshotgun]
Just curious what is the appearance fee for FIFI to show up at an airshow?

Also how much fuel and oil does she require per hour and how many crew does it take to do an airshow operation?

Originally Posted By rkbar15:

Originally Posted By peekay:
$600 per person? Fuck!

The new engines were approx. 3 million dollars and it cost approx. $9000 an hour to fly FiFi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMMvIT8brQc


Link Posted: 5/8/2012 4:36:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ridinshotgun:

Just curious what is the appearance fee for FIFI to show up at an airshow?

Also how much fuel and oil does she require per hour and how many crew does it take to do an airshow operation?


Good questions. The info might be in the newletters.

http://www.cafb29b24.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=25&Itemid=44
Link Posted: 5/8/2012 4:39:13 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/10/2012 3:48:35 AM EDT
Nice hi-res T/O and landing video.


Link Posted: 5/26/2012 4:11:32 AM EDT
More tour stops added.
Link Posted: 5/26/2012 4:28:21 AM EDT
This is Randy Sohn's account of the "rescue" of Fifi.

http://www.avweb.com/news/pelican/182151-1.html
Link Posted: 5/26/2012 4:35:53 AM EDT
I was at Charlotte Douglas the other day and FIFi was in the que right in front of us. Because of where I was on the plane (the front )
All I got to see was her power up and go.
After we got up in the air FiFi had turned north towards downtown and we turned south. It was pretty cool to see her from above in the air.
Link Posted: 5/26/2012 4:37:29 AM EDT
I'm going to see fi fi this morning. Can't afford the ride just the look.
Link Posted: 5/26/2012 5:12:30 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/26/2012 6:51:16 AM EDT
Originally Posted By peekay:
$600 per person? Fuck!


I don't think that is bad at all for a ride in a B-29. There is only one left and they ain't making any more.
Link Posted: 5/26/2012 7:00:23 AM EDT
I wish oldcatdriver was still around, I think he was flying her.


He could give us some good info.
Link Posted: 5/26/2012 7:14:54 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
Cool... I was in Midland back in... oh.. 2004, I think. The group I was with got to bring our cars out to the back of the hangar at the CAF Museum there. Fifi was in the hangar being worked on. It was pretty awesome to see. Wish I had some pictures.


I have some pictures of me working on Fifi when she broke at our airshow.
Link Posted: 5/26/2012 10:09:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Ranchitecture:
I was at Charlotte Douglas the other day and FIFi was in the que right in front of us. Because of where I was on the plane (the front )
All I got to see was her power up and go.
After we got up in the air FiFi had turned north towards downtown and we turned south. It was pretty cool to see her from above in the air.

Originally Posted By delemorte:
I'm going to see fi fi this morning. Can't afford the ride just the look.

Originally Posted By Garand_Shooter:

I will be at Reading in June, as I am every year.

Me too, of course.


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