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Posted: 4/15/2012 3:29:48 PM EDT

He says he was in Korea, but his Garand has no mag. How many Garands made it to Korea and when did the M-14 come to use? When was the big switch from .30-06 to .308?

Posted: 4/15/2012 3:31:53 PM EDT

[#1]

Many Garands made it to Korea.

The M 14 was not adopted until 1957, well after Korea.

Posted: 4/15/2012 3:33:14 PM EDT

[#2]

All Garands have a magazine, it's just internal.

The M14 came about in 1959, or so. Korea was long over by then.

Posted: 4/15/2012 3:33:25 PM EDT

[#3]

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Many Garands made it to Korea.

The M 14 was not adopted until 1957, well after Korea.

This. The Garand even saw (very limited) action in Vietnam, although mostly ARVN Units, but it was there.

Posted: 4/15/2012 3:39:47 PM EDT

[#4]

M1 Rifle was the standard rifle of the US Army and Marines in Korea. The M1 Carbine (and M2) were limited-issue, especially to officers, NCOs, and crew-served weapon troops.

M14 was officially adopted about 1957, but due to issues with early production, didn't see general-issue status until the early 1960s, in part because Ordnance insisted the M14 was so similar to the M1 in manufacture that there was no need for production studies. Then it turned out a year later they did need those studies, which took 6 months to complete on top of that. Would have been much faster and cheaper to just do the study up-front, and probably would have avoided many of the early production issues at Springfield.

Posted: 4/15/2012 3:41:57 PM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:

M1 Rifle was the standard rifle of the US Army and Marines in Korea. The M1 Carbine (and M2) were limited-issue, especially to officers, NCOs, and crew-served weapon troops.

M14 was officially adopted about 1957, but due to issues with early production, didn't see general-issue status until the early 1960s, in part because Ordnance insisted the M14 was so similar to the M1 in manufacture that there was no need for production studies. Then it turned out a year later they did need those studies, which took 6 months to complete on top of that. Would have been much faster and cheaper to just do the study up-front, and probably would have avoided many of the early production issues at Springfield.

Would have been much cheaper and faster if the U.S. would have let Garand build the rifle with a detachable mag like he wanted.

Posted: 4/15/2012 3:45:28 PM EDT

[#6]

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He says he was in Korea, but his Garand has no mag. How many Garands made it to Korea and when did the M-14 come to use? When was the big switch from .30-06 to .308?

Posted: 4/15/2012 3:46:48 PM EDT

[#7]

He said something about 'piling gooks like you up as sand bags', implying he served in the earlier parts of the war, Chosin maybe. Those guys did not have the latest and greatest gear.

Posted: 4/15/2012 3:53:31 PM EDT

[#8]

My Wife had and ex North Korean uncle. One day he was looking

through one of my gun magazines and he saw a Garand. His eyes

perked up and he told me that he killed many Chinese with one

after he fled to the south leaving his families Apple orchard.

He said he killed them up to 800 meters. He hated the communists

that ruined his wealthy life.

Posted: 4/15/2012 3:59:39 PM EDT

[#9]

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He says he was in Korea, but his Garand has no mag. How many Garands made it to Korea and when did the M-14 come to use? When was the big switch from .30-06 to .308?

We supplied what, 300,000 troops and the ROKs had 600,000. So basically, a shit-ton of Garands made it to Korea.

Posted: 4/15/2012 4:03:07 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:

He says he was in Korea, but his Garand has no mag. How many Garands made it to Korea and when did the M-14 come to use? When was the big switch from .30-06 to .308?

Posted: 4/15/2012 4:04:01 PM EDT

[#11]

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He says he was in Korea, but his Garand has no mag. How many Garands made it to Korea and when did the M-14 come to use? When was the big switch from .30-06 to .308?

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f284/EPHorn/not-sure-if-serious.jpg

Well, at least you got to use your cool poster for some street cred, eh? Been waiting long to use that since you saved it?

I thought Korea was the first war with the M-14. BFD.....

Posted: 4/15/2012 4:04:46 PM EDT

[#12]

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He says he was in Korea, but his Garand has no mag. How many Garands made it to Korea and when did the M-14 come to use? When was the big switch from .30-06 to .308?

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=29441

See above post, it applies to you, too.

Posted: 4/15/2012 4:14:41 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:

He says he was in Korea, but his Garand has no mag. How many Garands made it to Korea and when did the M-14 come to use? When was the big switch from .30-06 to .308?

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=29441

See above post, it applies to you, too.

They're not off the mark. How did you seriously NOT know that?? I mean, my wife wouldn't know that, but in her defense, she can't tell a shotgun from a rifle, and has zero interest in firearms in general.

Posted: 4/15/2012 4:20:51 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:

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He says he was in Korea, but his Garand has no mag. How many Garands made it to Korea and when did the M-14 come to use? When was the big switch from .30-06 to .308?

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=29441

See above post, it applies to you, too.

They're not off the mark. How did you seriously NOT know that?? I mean, my wife wouldn't know that, but in her defense, she can't tell a shotgun from a rifle, and has zero interest in firearms in general.

Wow. Just wow. Some guys, I swear will rip ass over any stupid thing. I own a 1943 Garand but was sure by Korea the M-14 was in use. I was wrong. Seriously, what the fuck, bro? Being 41 years old, it was just a bit before my time and I never studied the timeline...just looked mine up. My books are all on MY rifle, the Garand. The books I have never discuss when the M-14 comes in to play.

Posted: 4/15/2012 4:25:53 PM EDT

[#15]

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He says he was in Korea, but his Garand has no mag. How many Garands made it to Korea and when did the M-14 come to use? When was the big switch from .30-06 to .308?

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f284/EPHorn/not-sure-if-serious.jpg

Well, at least you got to use your cool poster for some street cred, eh? Been waiting long to use that since you saved it?

I thought Korea was the first war with the M-14. BFD.....

Because it makes about as much sense as posting "How come Dirty Harry didn't carry any spare magazines for his Model 29?"

Anyone posting about an M1 Garand magazine is either drunk, trolling, or fairly inexperienced with firearms. Given that you have over 9000 posts on a gun forum, it would seem to be a safe assumption that you probably know a moderate amount about rifles, particularly fundamental operating information on rifles for which you already know the designation and caliber. That leaves trolling or inebriation, and in consideration of your flawless grammar and spelling, one is left to strongly suspect yet another gem of Arfcom wit is somehow in play.

Posted: 4/15/2012 4:26:24 PM EDT

[#16]

yeah well, WWII happened before my time, yet i still know all about how the germans bombed pearl harbor.

get it together man!

Posted: 4/15/2012 4:27:07 PM EDT

[#17]

Nobody's ripping your ass, you have a serious case of sand in your pussy.

Posted: 4/15/2012 4:30:58 PM EDT

[#18]

Movie's on TNT right now.

Waiting for OP to birth a pearl.

DP

Posted: 4/15/2012 4:33:18 PM EDT

[#19]

Burt Lancaster is angry at this thread.

Posted: 4/15/2012 4:35:05 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
He says he was in Korea, but his Garand has no mag. How many Garands made it to Korea and when did the M-14 come to use? When was the big switch from .30-06 to .308?

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f284/EPHorn/not-sure-if-serious.jpg

Well, at least you got to use your cool poster for some street cred, eh? Been waiting long to use that since you saved it?

I thought Korea was the first war with the M-14. BFD.....

Because it makes about as much sense as posting "How come Dirty Harry didn't carry any spare magazines for his Model 29?"

Anyone posting about an M1 Garand magazine is either drunk, trolling, or fairly inexperienced with firearms. Given that you have over 9000 posts on a gun forum, it would seem to be a safe assumption that you probably know a moderate amount about rifles, particularly fundamental operating information on rifles for which you already know the designation and caliber. That leaves trolling or inebriation, and in consideration of your flawless grammar and spelling, one is left to strongly suspect yet another gem of Arfcom wit is somehow in play.

Ummm, don't be an idiot. I never meant to imply the Garand had a mag. Just an observation that he has a Garand in the movie but said he was in Korea. Figured he would have a M-14 but......I WAS WRONG. So I was off by 10 years.....

Posted: 4/15/2012 4:36:01 PM EDT

[#21]

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Nobody's ripping your ass, you have a serious case of sand in your pussy.

And here you are to clean it......

Posted: 4/15/2012 4:36:05 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:

Burt Lancaster is angry at this thread.

Sweet picture of Humphrey Bogart and the Lewis Gun.

Posted: 4/15/2012 4:36:20 PM EDT

[#23]

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Movie's on TNT right now.

Waiting for OP to birth a pearl.

DP

Watching now....

Posted: 4/15/2012 4:36:23 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
M1 Rifle was the standard rifle of the US Army and Marines in Korea. The M1 Carbine (and M2) were limited-issue, especially to officers, NCOs, and crew-served weapon troops.

M14 was officially adopted about 1957, but due to issues with early production, didn't see general-issue status until the early 1960s, in part because Ordnance insisted the M14 was so similar to the M1 in manufacture that there was no need for production studies. Then it turned out a year later they did need those studies, which took 6 months to complete on top of that. Would have been much faster and cheaper to just do the study up-front, and probably would have avoided many of the early production issues at Springfield.

Would have been much cheaper and faster if the U.S. would have let Garand build the rifle with a detachable mag like he wanted.

Or study the Italian BM-59.

Posted: 4/15/2012 4:36:56 PM EDT

[#25]

Thin skin is Thin

Posted: 4/15/2012 4:39:50 PM EDT

[#26]

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Nobody's ripping your ass, you have a serious case of sand in your pussy.

And here you are to clean it......

I'll leave that to you and your boyfriend.

Posted: 4/15/2012 4:50:38 PM EDT

[#27]

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Nobody's ripping your ass, you have a serious case of sand in your pussy.

And here you are to clean it......

I'll leave that to you and your boyfriend.

Personal attack much? That was quite the witty comeback! You must have gone to public school too!!!

Posted: 4/15/2012 4:52:00 PM EDT

[#28]

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Burt Lancaster is angry at this thread.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zLjU0naD0OY/TZ0KqvdYU6I/AAAAAAAAADE/79Y8NDSNS68/s400/from-here-to-eternity.jpg

Sweet picture of Humphrey Bogart and the Lewis Gun.

I know! This is my favorite scene from Hamburger Hill

Posted: 4/15/2012 4:55:30 PM EDT

[#29]

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He said something about 'piling gooks like you up as sand bags', implying he served in the earlier parts of the war, Chosin maybe. Those guys did not have the latest and greatest gear.

My Dad described them as "Stacked like cordwood." That line in the film made me laugh, thinking of my father. Mounds of commie bodies must have been a common experience.

Posted: 4/15/2012 5:02:37 PM EDT

[#30]

This thread digressed quickly.

Posted: 4/15/2012 5:06:50 PM EDT

[#31]

That is what happens when op asks stupid gun questions and then gets sand in his mangina.

Posted: 4/15/2012 5:14:10 PM EDT

[#32]

Posted: 4/15/2012 5:16:26 PM EDT

[#33]

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That is what happens when op asks stupid gun questions and then gets sand in his mangina.

So I am 10 years off on the transition from M1 to M14 and I somehow i am the one with sand in the mangina after several idiots feel the need to slam me for it? Fucking please.....Pot / kettle syndrome......

Get a fucking life. I was wrong, and the question was answered. Don't be such a duche bag to people who share the same interests you do.......maybe just observe the fact I was wrong and have been educated on the production date of the M14??????????????????

Fucking purse swingers, I swear.....

Edited for mods...

Posted: 4/15/2012 5:20:09 PM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:

Quoted:
He says he was in Korea, but his Garand has no mag. How many Garands made it to Korea and when did the M-14 come to use? When was the big switch from .30-06 to .308?

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f284/EPHorn/not-sure-if-serious.jpg

Well, at least you got to use your cool poster for some street cred, eh? Been waiting long to use that since you saved it?

I thought Korea was the first war with the M-14. BFD.....

Because it makes about as much sense as posting "How come Dirty Harry didn't carry any spare magazines for his Model 29?"

Anyone posting about an M1 Garand magazine is either drunk, trolling, or fairly inexperienced with firearms. Given that you have over 9000 posts on a gun forum, it would seem to be a safe assumption that you probably know a moderate amount about rifles, particularly fundamental operating information on rifles for which you already know the designation and caliber. That leaves trolling or inebriation, and in consideration of your flawless grammar and spelling, one is left to strongly suspect yet another gem of Arfcom wit is somehow in play.

Sorry grandpa......Some of us don't know shit about Garands. I don't know anything about them and I'm not about to waste my time learning about them. It's the natural progression of things.

Relax a little folks.

Posted: 4/15/2012 5:24:21 PM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:

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That is what happens when op asks stupid gun questions and then gets sand in his mangina.

So I am 10 years off on the transition from M1 to M14 and I somehow i am the one with sand in the mangina after several idiots feel the need to slam me for it? Fucking please.....Pot / kettle syndrome......

Get a fucking life. I was wrong, and the question was answered. Don't be such a duche bag to people who share the same interests you do.......maybe just observe the fact I was wrong and have been educated on the production date of the M14??????????????????

Fucking purse swingers, I swear.....

Edited for mods...

Well if you know about the Garand as you stated then you know it was produced well into the 50's as a result of the Korean war. Or maybe you just don't know about Garands either.

Posted: 4/15/2012 5:29:12 PM EDT

[#36]

Personal attacks removed - warning issued - Paul

Posted: 4/15/2012 5:36:18 PM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:
That is what happens when op asks stupid gun questions and then gets sand in his mangina.

So I am 10 years off on the transition from M1 to M14 and I somehow i am the one with sand in the mangina after several idiots feel the need to slam me for it? Fucking please.....Pot / kettle syndrome......

Get a fucking life. I was wrong, and the question was answered. Don't be such a duche bag to people who share the same interests you do.......maybe just observe the fact I was wrong and have been educated on the production date of the M14??????????????????

Fucking purse swingers, I swear.....

Edited for mods...

wow

Posted: 4/15/2012 5:38:50 PM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:
That is what happens when op asks stupid gun questions and then gets sand in his mangina.

So I am 10 years off on the transition from M1 to M14 and I somehow i am the one with sand in the mangina after several idiots feel the need to slam me for it? Fucking please.....Pot / kettle syndrome......

Get a fucking life. I was wrong, and the question was answered. Don't be such a duche bag to people who share the same interests you do.......maybe just observe the fact I was wrong and have been educated on the production date of the M14??????????????????

Fucking purse swingers, I swear.....

Edited for mods...

Well if you know about the Garand as you stated then you know it was produced well into the 50's as a result of the Korean war. Or maybe you just don't know about Garands either.

And now this duche bag. Any more issues with this thread should be made into a damn pit thread.

Fucking troll here, folks. I am very familiar with my 1943 Garand but don't really give a shit about 1950's Garands since I DO NOT OWN ONE. Wanna call me out on this? Please....go get some air or something. Get a life, find a hobby....change your nozzle..

Feel better for posting? Cool kid club paid member?

you need to take your own advice man

Posted: 4/15/2012 5:43:56 PM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:
That is what happens when op asks stupid gun questions and then gets sand in his mangina.

So I am 10 years off on the transition from M1 to M14 and I somehow i am the one with sand in the mangina after several idiots feel the need to slam me for it? Fucking please.....Pot / kettle syndrome......

Get a fucking life. I was wrong, and the question was answered. Don't be such a duche bag to people who share the same interests you do.......maybe just observe the fact I was wrong and have been educated on the production date of the M14??????????????????

Fucking purse swingers, I swear.....

Edited for mods...

Well if you know about the Garand as you stated then you know it was produced well into the 50's as a result of the Korean war. Or maybe you just don't know about Garands either.

And now this duche bag. Any more issues with this thread should be made into a damn pit thread.

Fucking troll here, folks. I am very familiar with my 1943 Garand but don't really give a shit about 1950's Garands since I DO NOT OWN ONE. Wanna call me out on this? Please....go get some air or something. Get a life, find a hobby....change your nozzle..

Feel better for posting? Cool kid club paid member?

you need to take your own advice man

Umm, you do realize this all began with a question regarding the use of the Garand in Korea, right? I have no intention of taking that guy's shit or anyone else's for asking a question regarding the use of the Garand vs M14. How many more guys want to call out my gun experience or shit in this thread over that question?

Oh, I'm done. Question answered. I don't need any more account warnings...