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Posted: 3/13/2012 7:05:57 PM EDT
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I used to have an old model Taurus 92AF. I chose it over a Beretta 92 because of the steel frame and frame mounted safety.
I sold it off about 10 years ago because I wasn't shooting it. Kind of regret that now. |
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I hate slide mounted safeties. I'd pick the Taurus over the Beretta any day.
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While the frame-mounted safety is nice, I still wouldn't trade my Beretta for a Taurus.
Oddly enough, I think I've put more rounds through my friend's Taurus than I've put through my own 92. |
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We have several of both and they have all served well, no problems or complaints.
IMHO, the 92/99-series guns are the best semi-autos Taurus makes. That said, IMO the only reason to choose the Taurus over the Beretta outside of price considerations is if you hate/refuse to have a slide-mounted safety (not an issue for me, but I know it is for some). |
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92FS every day of the week and twice on Sundays
Taurus is much better now than they used to be, but I still trust Beretta a lot more still the correct answer is either CZ or Glock |
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The 92 pattern gun is stupid as hell. A lawyer designed it. DA/SA is silly and gets people killed.
The Beretta goes with the completely stupid slide mount safety, but other than that it is a decent gun (ignoring the fact that it is huge for a 15 round 9mm, G19 hello) The Taurus is a Taurus, but at least it has a frame mounted safety. Either guns are novelties. Its criminal that we issue these guns.
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Quoted: ... still the correct answer is either CZ or Glock Nope, the CORRECT answer is all of the above and then some. |
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Quoted: do they use the same mags? Not without a little modification. |
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I would like the Taurus model, but it's a bitch to find one without a rail. I never put anything on the rails, so the only thing they do it make it a pain in the ass to find a holster for the gun.
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Quoted: ... (ignoring the fact that it is huge for a 15 round 9mm, G19 hello)... Beretta 92 is a 17-round 9mm now, hello. More appropriately comparable to a G17 than a G19, and it is very close in overall size to a G17 (don't make me post all those pics again... ). |
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The 92 pattern gun is stupid as hell. A lawyer designed it. DA/SA is silly and gets people killed. The Beretta goes with the completely stupid slide mount safety, but other than that it is a decent gun (ignoring the fact that it is huge for a 15 round 9mm, G19 hello) The Taurus is a Taurus, but at least it has a frame mounted safety. Either guns are novelties. Its criminal that we issue these guns. I hear this all the time, but when was the last time someone was killed because of the slide mounted safety on a Beretta? |
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The Beretta's slide mounted safety is annoying but not insurmountable and quite honestly I wouldn't trade Beretta for Taurus build quality for that one feature.
I'll take a G17 over either though, KThx |
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Quoted: Down To Fire. Damned eyetalians. I didn't know eyetalians made the 2nd-/3rd-gen S&Ws, CZs, Walthers, etc. |
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Quoted: Quoted: ... (ignoring the fact that it is huge for a 15 round 9mm, G19 hello)... Beretta 92 is a 17-round 9mm now, hello. More appropriately comparable to a G17 than a G19, and it is very close in overall size to a G17 (don't make me post all those pics again... ). So why is a G17 smaller in every dimension and hold 2 more rounds? |
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I don't understand the deal with the safety. It's a DA/SA gun, I just use it like a decocker.
And my mags are 18 and 20 rounders. |
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A friend of mine had a Taurus 92. It refused to feed anything but ball ammo(on a good day), was the most finicky thing you've ever seen when it comes to magazines(90% of the ones tried didn't work for one reason or another), and then one day the locking block split in half.
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Down To Fire. Damned eyetalians. I didn't know eyetalians made the 2nd-/3rd-gen S&Ws, CZs, Walthers, etc. Yeah, yeah, I know. I like my Sig 226. None of that shit. Actually, French (Arcadians) make many of the S&W/Walthers. Yeah, Aroostook county Maine is predominantly French. |
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Quoted: A friend of mine had a Taurus 92. It refused to feed anything but ball ammo(on a good day), was the most finicky thing you've ever seen when it comes to magazines(90% of the ones tried didn't work for one reason or another), and then one day the locking block split in half. My wife has three (they are her glove box guns of choice), has had them for years and thousands of rounds, and her experience has been just the opposite. |
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Quoted: Quoted: So why is a G17 smaller in every dimension and hold 2 more rounds? Quoted: Beretta 92 is a 17-round 9mm now, hello. ... (ignoring the fact that it is huge for a 15 round 9mm, G19 hello)... More appropriately comparable to a G17 than a G19, and it is very close in overall size to a G17 (don't make me post all those pics again... ). It doesn't... Beretta M92A1s come with 17rd mags, 92FS will follow after they run out of 15rd mags. 18rd OEM mags are available now too. So you get one more round in a metal gun of approximately the same size with a good trigger instead of one that breaks like a stale Twizzler. |
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A broken in Beretta has the smoothest slide that I have ever felt. Never handled the Taurus version but their guns have been roughly finished but reliable in my experience.
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Berettas are nice.........Taurus is shit.
Frame vs Slide mounted safety.......is it so important you buy a total shitpiece instead of a well made gun? I never understood the big deal about the slide mounted safety anyway. I always reached it just fine. but it didn't matter anyway as I carried it hammer down, weapon on fire. |
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I chose the Taurus PT-99F over the Beretta because of the frame mounted safety. It has been a very reliable pistol over the years, with the only problems encountered due to the Ramline mag I was trying at the time. With Taurus mags, never a misfeed with any type of ammo.
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: ... (ignoring the fact that it is huge for a 15 round 9mm, G19 hello)... Beretta 92 is a 17-round 9mm now, hello. More appropriately comparable to a G17 than a G19, and it is very close in overall size to a G17 (don't make me post all those pics again... ). I like to think of 'em as 20 rounders. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/53_vortec/M9001.jpg Yeah, and some Glockers like to think of theirs as 33 rounders. But I was talking about flush-fitting factory mags (and clarified that in a later post). |
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... (ignoring the fact that it is huge for a 15 round 9mm, G19 hello)... Beretta 92 is a 17-round 9mm now, hello. More appropriately comparable to a G17 than a G19, and it is very close in overall size to a G17 (don't make me post all those pics again... ). I like to think of 'em as 20 rounders. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/53_vortec/M9001.jpg Yeah, and some Glockers like to think of theirs as 33 rounders. But I was talking about flush-fitting factory mags (and clarified that in a later post). I know, but I never pass on an opportunity to gratuitously post pics of the house M9. Thanks for the photos of the G17 with the M9, btw. I'd actually been thinking of taking similar photos. |
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Quoted: ... Thanks for the photos of the G17 with the M9, btw. I'd actually been thinking of taking similar photos. I have to be brutally honest –– even after many years using both platforms, until I lined them up and took those shots I would have sworn there was more of a difference than that myself. |
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Quoted: Quoted: A broken in Beretta has the smoothest slide that I have ever felt... You should feel one (or three) finished in Robar NP3 –– slicker than owl snot! http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/HardShell/RWB%20-%20Pistols/RobarNP3Beretta92s.jpg Purdy. |
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Beretta really needs to make more frame mounted safety guns like the Billennium and Steel 1
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Beretta really needs to make more frame mounted safety guns like the Billennium and Steel 1 I'd be perfectly happy if they'd just put the 92G-SD back into production. |
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M&P9 full size. Glorious. I've got the 40, but a 9mm barrel for it is on short order.
I can't stand Taurus as a company, and I can't stand Beretta 92's because I hate the way they feel, and shoot, and their stupid safety. Sig makes the only DA/SA worth a damn (CZ doesn't count because you can just carry them in condition one, CZ's are excellent). I'm also starting to believe that the M&P9c is better than a G19... |
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Beretta.
However I do like the safety on the Taurus better. But I will never own another Taurus again unless it's a revolver. |
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... (ignoring the fact that it is huge for a 15 round 9mm, G19 hello)... Beretta 92 is a 17-round 9mm now, hello. More appropriately comparable to a G17 than a G19, and it is very close in overall size to a G17 (don't make me post all those pics again... ). Make that 18. The mec gar 18 round mags are flush fit. |
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