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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:36:11 AM EDT
[#1]
Uh oh!
How many Rubio fanboys will come to his rescue? the day is early! 
Edit: and yes, while I like Rubio, I don't think he should be POTUS or even VPOTUS. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:37:30 AM EDT
[#2]
Either you believe in the rule of law, or you don't.
Illegal aliens are illegal because they are here in contravention to our immigration laws. And our laws are not significantly different than other countries' immigration laws. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:38:15 AM EDT
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Romney's "self deportation" comment was one of the best things he said over the course of his entire campaign. It's one of the few things I agree with him on.
Make it so illegals cannot work, drive, or get government assistance of any sort and they will go back to Mexico of their own free will. Sounds like a plan. If Rubio doesn't like it, tough shit. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:39:51 AM EDT
[#4]
DEPORT RUBIO IN 2012!
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:40:11 AM EDT
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Immigration is encouraged to expand the available workforce, making it more competitive to get jobs (what few there are) and driving down the cost of labor. Big corporations have been pushing this for years and that's why the Republicraps and Demoncraps, the two faces of the same party which is owned by big money, have done nothing to restrict immigration.
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:40:13 AM EDT
[#6]
Sorry, we're not tough ENOUGH on illegal immigrants.
I WELCOME all LEGAL immigrants, but illegal ones should be treated like any other CRIMINALS. What part of ILLEGAL do these assholes have a hard time understanding? CJ |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:40:38 AM EDT
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Either you believe in the rule of law, or you don't. Illegal aliens are illegal because they are here in contravention to our immigration laws. And our laws are not significantly different than other countries' immigration laws.fairly lax in comparison to many other nations laws, say....Mexicos reported shooting of Guatemalans. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:42:26 AM EDT
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TEH OHNOEZ!!! BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!!!
 Immigration wouldn't be an issue if we didn't have a cradle to grave welfare state. As far as I can tell, Rubio is about doing away with the entitlement system, that is more important. We also wouldn't have a problem with illegals if we didn't make the cost of labor so fucking high, we should fix that problem as well.
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:43:24 AM EDT
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Rubio's parents came here from Cuba, under that advantageous arrangement Cuban illegals get. Is he feeling guilty, or just a little brown brotherhood in advance of a national campaign?
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:48:04 AM EDT
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The way that article reads is If they are coming across the border it is a Criminal Offense but being in the country illegally is a Civil Violation.
That is like saying that a person breaking into your house is a Criminal but if he is already in your house it is a civil matter. That is bull shit. If someone breaks into your house you would call the police. If they said wait don't call the police, we will cook your food, clean your house and do your yard work. Guess what I am still calling the Police. If their daughter drops a baby on your living room floor and looks at you and says because it was born in your house you are responsible and now have to care for, feed, cloth and educate the child. This is Illegal Immigration broken down to a scale that anyone can understand. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:50:21 AM EDT
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Wow.
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:51:55 AM EDT
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TEH OHNOEZ!!! BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!!!
Immigration wouldn't be an issue if we didn't have a cradle to grave welfare state. As far as I can tell, Rubio is about doing away with the entitlement system, that is more important. We also wouldn't have a problem with illegals if we didn't make the cost of labor so fucking high, we should fix that problem as well. We have a much greater chance of cracking down on illegal immigration than we have to make any serious cuts in the welfare state. Even if we cut it back by half, it's still better than what is available south of the border. Quoted:
Rubio's parents came here from Cuba, under that advantageous arrangement Cuban illegals get. Is he feeling guilty, or just a little brown brotherhood in advance of a national campaign? Most Cubans get sent right back. They never even touch the shore around here. The Coast Guard picks them up at sea. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:52:40 AM EDT
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adjective
1. forbidden by law or statute. 2. contrary to or forbidden by official rules, regulations, etc.: Bye bye! |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:52:56 AM EDT
[#14]
no we aren't. IF we let these ones slide there is no reason for the next few million to bother following our laws because they will believe eventually they get a break as well.
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:54:01 AM EDT
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Rubio's parents came here from Cuba, under that advantageous arrangement Cuban illegals get. Is he feeling guilty, or just a little brown brotherhood in advance of a national campaign? Most Cubans get sent right back. They never even touch the shore around here. The Coast Guard picks them up at sea. I don't know what the policy is right now, but Rubio's parents didn't get here last night. The policy for a long time was any Cubans feet-dry on US soil got to stay as political refugees rather than being treated as illegal immigrants. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:54:09 AM EDT
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Quoted: This is the problem. The socialist welfare state has caused an untold amount of problems. Now, instead of going after the actual illness, we attack the symptoms, which is turning this country into a police state.Quoted: TEH OHNOEZ!!! BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!!! Immigration wouldn't be an issue if we didn't have a cradle to grave welfare state. As far as I can tell, Rubio is about doing away with the entitlement system, that is more important. We also wouldn't have a problem with illegals if we didn't make the cost of labor so fucking high, we should fix that problem as well. We have a much greater chance of cracking down on illegal immigration than we have to make any serious cuts in the welfare state. Even if we cut it back by half, it's still better than what is available south of the border. Quoted: Rubio's parents came here from Cuba, under that advantageous arrangement Cuban illegals get. Is he feeling guilty, or just a little brown brotherhood in advance of a national campaign? Most Cubans get sent right back. They never even touch the shore around here. The Coast Guard picks them up at sea. I must rather see Rubio going after the welfare state then looking for ways to enhance the police state.
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:58:48 AM EDT
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This is the problem. The socialist welfare state has caused an untold amount of problems. Now, instead of going after the actual illness, we attack the symptoms, which is turning this country into a police state.Quoted:
TEH OHNOEZ!!! BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!!!
Immigration wouldn't be an issue if we didn't have a cradle to grave welfare state. As far as I can tell, Rubio is about doing away with the entitlement system, that is more important. We also wouldn't have a problem with illegals if we didn't make the cost of labor so fucking high, we should fix that problem as well. We have a much greater chance of cracking down on illegal immigration than we have to make any serious cuts in the welfare state. Even if we cut it back by half, it's still better than what is available south of the border. Quoted:
Rubio's parents came here from Cuba, under that advantageous arrangement Cuban illegals get. Is he feeling guilty, or just a little brown brotherhood in advance of a national campaign? Most Cubans get sent right back. They never even touch the shore around here. The Coast Guard picks them up at sea. I must rather see Rubio going after the welfare state then looking for ways to enhance the police state. The welfare state isn't the only thing bringing illegal immigrants to the US. I'd rather be a beggar in San Diego than a carpenter in Tijuana. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:00:11 AM EDT
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Yea, because other countries are so 'diverse' with open borders.
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:00:49 AM EDT
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I'd rather be a beggar in San Diego than a carpenter in Tijuana. True |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:00:51 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This is the problem. The socialist welfare state has caused an untold amount of problems. Now, instead of going after the actual illness, we attack the symptoms, which is turning this country into a police state.Quoted: TEH OHNOEZ!!! BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!!! Immigration wouldn't be an issue if we didn't have a cradle to grave welfare state. As far as I can tell, Rubio is about doing away with the entitlement system, that is more important. We also wouldn't have a problem with illegals if we didn't make the cost of labor so fucking high, we should fix that problem as well. We have a much greater chance of cracking down on illegal immigration than we have to make any serious cuts in the welfare state. Even if we cut it back by half, it's still better than what is available south of the border. Quoted: Rubio's parents came here from Cuba, under that advantageous arrangement Cuban illegals get. Is he feeling guilty, or just a little brown brotherhood in advance of a national campaign? Most Cubans get sent right back. They never even touch the shore around here. The Coast Guard picks them up at sea. I must rather see Rubio going after the welfare state then looking for ways to enhance the police state. The welfare state isn't the only thing bringing illegal immigrants to the US. I'd rather be a beggar in San Diego than a carpenter in Tijuana. I have no problems with people jumping the border to come to this country who are looking to be productive people and have a chance at life. Regardless of my views, I don't think this should be something that should result in Rubio being put on the shit list. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:02:12 AM EDT
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Rubio's parents came here from Cuba, under that advantageous arrangement Cuban illegals get. Is he feeling guilty, or just a little brown brotherhood in advance of a national campaign? Most Cubans get sent right back. They never even touch the shore around here. The Coast Guard picks them up at sea. I don't know what the policy is right now, but Rubio's parents didn't get here last night. The policy for a long time was any Cubans feet-dry on US soil got to stay as political refugees rather than being treated as illegal immigrants. Wet foot/dry foot policy is still active. if a Cuban makes it to shore, they get to stay. If the CG catches them, they get sent back to Cuba. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:04:21 AM EDT
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I have no problems with people jumping the border to come to this country who are looking to be productive people and have a chance at life. Regardless of my views, I don't think this should be something that should result in Rubio being put on the shit list. You and I differ in the extreme on both of these points. If a nation doesn't protect its borders and limit immigration in some fashion, it begins to fray around the edges and eventually degrades into the third world shithole that all it's illegal (but not, in your view) immigrants came from. Eventually it's not much of a nation at all. Any sworn US Senator or Representative who would seek to degrade or blur the line between illegal and legal immigrant should be run out of town on a rail. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:04:48 AM EDT
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He is also against gambling. I wish I still had the email from him when he was a State Sen.
I will not support him. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:05:20 AM EDT
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TEH OHNOEZ!!! BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!!!
Immigration wouldn't be an issue if we didn't have a cradle to grave welfare state. As far as I can tell, Rubio is about doing away with the entitlement system, that is more important. We also wouldn't have a problem with illegals if we didn't make the cost of labor so fucking high, we should fix that problem as well. Right, because the crops will definitely get picked at 4 dollars an hour, when you eliminate the minimum wage. Just need to get all the welfare people out picking lettuce. Jesus, where do you get some of your ideas? |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:06:15 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I have no problems with people jumping the border to come to this country who are looking to be productive people and have a chance at life. Regardless of my views, I don't think this should be something that should result in Rubio being put on the shit list. You and I differ in the extreme on both of these points. If a nation doesn't protect its borders and limit immigration in some fashion, it begins to fray around the edges and eventually degrades into the third world shithole that all it's illegal (but not, in your view) immigrants came from. Eventually it's not much of a nation at all. Any sworn US Senator or Representative who would seek to degrade or blur the line between illegal and legal immigrant should be run out of town on a rail. *shrug* if this is the only case where Rubio really goes off the reservation then I'll be happy. This isn't the first time he has stated such remarks.
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:09:30 AM EDT
[#26]
Rubio supported SOPA and PIPA, until they were effectively killed. He has also blown off the gunwalker issue.
I will NOT be voting for him next election cycle. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:11:58 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted: Quoted: TEH OHNOEZ!!! BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!!! Immigration wouldn't be an issue if we didn't have a cradle to grave welfare state. As far as I can tell, Rubio is about doing away with the entitlement system, that is more important. We also wouldn't have a problem with illegals if we didn't make the cost of labor so fucking high, we should fix that problem as well. Right, because the crops will definitely get picked at 4 dollars an hour, when you eliminate the minimum wage. Just need to get all the welfare people out picking lettuce. Jesus, where do you get some of your ideas? From Milton Friedmen and Walter E. Williams, both are whom are obviously ridiculously stupid. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:12:48 AM EDT
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Quoted: Rubio supported SOPA and PIPA, until they were effectively killed. He has also blown off the gunwalker issue. I will NOT be voting for him next election cycle. Now that's problematic, and thank you for reminding me about that, I'd already forgotten about that. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:13:28 AM EDT
[#29]
He is probably correct in what he said. The "rhetoric" is getting to where we are judging all Hispanics the same way, illegal or legal. The "rhetoric" has gotten over the top. I understand what he was trying to say perfectly.
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:14:47 AM EDT
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Either you believe in the rule of law, or you don't. Illegal aliens are illegal because they are here in contravention to our immigration laws. And our laws are not significantly different than other countries' immigration laws.fairly lax in comparison to many other nations laws, say....Mexicos reported shooting of Guatemalans. +1 |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:15:25 AM EDT
[#31]
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TEH OHNOEZ!!! BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!!!
Immigration wouldn't be an issue if we didn't have a cradle to grave welfare state. As far as I can tell, Rubio is about doing away with the entitlement system, that is more important. We also wouldn't have a problem with illegals if we didn't make the cost of labor so fucking high, we should fix that problem as well. Point taken. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:24:00 AM EDT
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He is probably correct in what he said. The "rhetoric" is getting to where we are judging all Hispanics the same way, illegal or legal. The "rhetoric" has gotten over the top. I understand what he was trying to say perfectly. "We" are judging all Hispanics the same way? Where do you get this notion, if not from the collectivist left? I don't know how "you" judge Hispanics, but I'm married to one. I know and love her side of my family and have no hangups about where they came from, because they got here legally. I see Hispanic folks everyday, my family aside, and I don't make any assumptions about where they're from or their legal/illegal status. Only an idiot assumes that all immigrants are illegal. We're a nation of immigrants. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:25:13 AM EDT
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Romney's "self deportation" comment was one of the best things he said over the course of his entire campaign. It's one of the few things I agree with him on. Romney is pro-business enough that he won't be willing to crack down on companies that hire illegals. This is one area the states can tell the fedgov to shove it on the illegal immigration issue, and that's issuance of business licenses. Hire illegal workers and the state pulls your license. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:26:09 AM EDT
[#34]
Fuck the illegal immigrants!!!! Go home.
What part of illegal don't people understand? Go suck up your own countries resources and benefits. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:29:13 AM EDT
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DEPORT RUBIO IN 2012! This. They are not going to trade free ed. free med. dental, food stamps, housing, etc. for going back to Mexico. Florida is full up with illegals now, so all the pols from FL are going to go all in for "comprehensive immigration reform" (really means AMNESTY) to assure they get the latino vote. Latino is second minority in Tex and FL now and soon will be majority. The f***king idiot mayor in LA now, actually changed his name to a more latino sounding name to assure getting their vote. http://www.city-data.com/forum/illegal-immigration/241875-real-villaraigosa.html How about Manuel Rubiogarcia? ? ? 
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:29:22 AM EDT
[#36]
Fine. Bring in immigrants willing to be patriotic and work. To make room, ship out current multi generational welfare rats!
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:31:05 AM EDT
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Quoted: Again that's a symptom of the social welfare state. Fix the illness, not the symptoms. Quoted: DEPORT RUBIO IN 2012! This. They are not going to trade free ed. free med. dental, food stamps, housing, etc. for going back to Mexico. Florida is full up with illegals now, so all the pols from FL are going to go all in for "comprehensive immigration reform" (really means AMNESTY) to assure they get the latino vote. Latino is second minority in Tex and FL now and soon will be majority. The f***king idiot mayor in LA now, actually changed his name to a more latino sounding name to assure getting their vote. http://www.city-data.com/forum/illegal-immigration/241875-real-villaraigosa.html |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:54:12 AM EDT
[#38]
To quote Ron White's winning debate tactic:
"Yeah? Well FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK you!" |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 3:00:27 PM EDT
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He is probably correct in what he said. The "rhetoric" is getting to where we are judging all Hispanics the same way, illegal or legal. The "rhetoric" has gotten over the top. I understand what he was trying to say perfectly. I have no problem with Immigration. Unless you are Native American we are ALL Descendent from immigrants. The issue is the Immigrants who came here legally, became a citizen, learned the language and became productive members of society. There are Immigrants who have never learned English Illegal and otherwise. You take an oath to become a citizen you renounce your citizenship in your former country. You work for the betterment of American Society. Unless you are willing to do all those, GO HOME. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 3:03:34 PM EDT
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FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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Posted: 1/28/2012 3:04:10 PM EDT
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Rubio's parents came here from Cuba, under that advantageous arrangement Cuban illegals get. Is he feeling guilty, or just a little brown brotherhood in advance of a national campaign? Most Cubans get sent right back. They never even touch the shore around here. The Coast Guard picks them up at sea. I don't know what the policy is right now, but Rubio's parents didn't get here last night. The policy for a long time was any Cubans feet-dry on US soil got to stay as political refugees rather than being treated as illegal immigrants. Wet foot/dry foot policy is still active. if a Cuban makes it to shore, they get to stay. If the CG catches them, they get sent back to Cuba. And their patrols are very effective. When a Cuban gets to shore, it makes the news. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 3:04:38 PM EDT
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Sorry, we're not tough ENOUGH on illegal immigrants. I WELCOME all LEGAL immigrants, but illegal ones should be treated like any other CRIMINALS. What part of ILLEGAL do these assholes have a hard time understanding? This..... |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 3:06:47 PM EDT
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Unless you are Native American we are ALL Descendent from immigrants. Well, I was BORN here, so I AM a native American. 
And American Indians ALSO also descended from immigrants to OUR country.
There also exists some compelling information that suggests Caucasions were here a LONG time ago.
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Posted: 1/28/2012 3:10:17 PM EDT
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rubio is quickly losing his stock value among the right. first he comes out and says romney is the "real conservative"
in the race, then this bullshit? little boy needs to learn to keep his mouth shut. after this and the romney comment, i would not support him for VP or pres.
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Posted: 1/28/2012 3:13:10 PM EDT
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Our current immigration law is retarded. I think abolishing welfare and totally open immigration policies would greatly benefit the entire country.
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Posted: 1/28/2012 3:18:09 PM EDT
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Our current immigration law is retarded. I think abolishing welfare and totally open immigration policies would greatly benefit the entire country. hope you got lots of ammo for all the welfare rats you would have to shoot to keep them from burning your house to the ground. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 3:30:49 PM EDT
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DEPORT RUBIO IN 2012! |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 3:39:57 PM EDT
[#48]
I agree with him. Most people are tribal and utterly confused that the world isn't America. They don't have any idea what is required to become an American or what it means to leave your home country and go to a new place since they never had to do anything to earn the right to be an American. It would be best if all Americans had to earn the right to be citizens like in Starship Troopers.
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Posted: 1/28/2012 3:51:02 PM EDT
[#49]
Great.
What I thought was another good conservative can go fuck himself. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 3:55:27 PM EDT
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It's funny how many people obviously didn't read the article.
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