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Posted: 1/7/2012 2:04:10 AM EDT
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I heard that call as it happened and I had to resist the urge to punch my computer monitor. For the most part, I think ron paul is a decent guy (and I love the vast majority of his domestic views––-especially where the economy is concerned) but he's flat out wrong on many of his foreign policy views and a good portion of his followers are absolutely crazy.
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Posted: 1/7/2012 2:05:35 AM EDT
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Some of RP's supporters here aren't too far from saying the same
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Posted: 1/7/2012 2:07:05 AM EDT
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Some people need to be reminded that we have a LOT more pressing matters in this country than this shit.
Nothing like seeing people who should be allies tearing at one another while ignoring the man who is trying to raise our national debt by ANOTHER $1.2 Trillion. This is EXACTLY what is discrediting to RP and his supporters. Leave that "troofer" shit until AFTER we deal with the REAL enemy. –– John |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 2:46:03 AM EDT
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FWIW, I don't think they are crazy either.
I think they are evil. There is a difference. |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 2:53:46 AM EDT
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Quoted: Some of RP's supporters here aren't too far from saying the same No. They pretty have said the same things. |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 3:02:18 AM EDT
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On the other hand, the guy may have just been yankin Beck's chain.
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Posted: 1/7/2012 3:14:10 AM EDT
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In an attempt to discredit Paul the media has been trying to find the craziest people they can that will say they support Paul. This should make no difference but somehow people are so affected by propaganda and opinion that they will be instantaneously swayed one way or another.
If a Neo-Nazi said I'm a Romney supporter, would that mean anything about Romney at all? No. However some media and arfcommers alike would use it as evidence to support their stance. 
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Posted: 1/7/2012 3:19:53 AM EDT
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Another "off the reservation" Ron Paul supporter. They all sound like fruitcakes to me.
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Posted: 1/7/2012 3:36:54 AM EDT
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Another "off the reservation" Ron Paul Cain, Romney, Gingrich, Bachman, Santorum supporter. They all sound like fruitcakes to me. See what a useful exercise that was?!
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Posted: 1/7/2012 3:38:40 AM EDT
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If a Neo-Nazi said I'm a Romney supporter, would that mean anything about Romney at all? No. However some media and arfcommers alike would use it as evidence to support their stance. Except in your example it would be an aberration. Anyone paying attention can see a pretty clear pattern of who the nutcases seem to support the majority of the time. |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 3:47:42 AM EDT
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If a Neo-Nazi said I'm a Romney supporter, would that mean anything about Romney at all? No. However some media and arfcommers alike would use it as evidence to support their stance. Except in your example it would be an aberration. Anyone paying attention can see a pretty clear pattern of who the nutcases seem to support the majority of the time. Ahhh, but thats your opinion and in MY opinion quite the over generalization. Many would say that Beck is a complete nutcase, or those other crazy Mormons, or Fanatical Christians, or Republicans, or Dems. Think critically for a couple of seconds and see that your reality is subjective. Once you see this you realize it (what nutcases do or don't do) is not a leg to stand on when considering a potential POTUS, or much anything else. The facts regarding the persons policies are what matter here. But of course if we stuck to that the 24 hour propaganda machines would run out of material real quick. |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 3:57:36 AM EDT
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In an attempt to discredit Paul the media has been trying to find the craziest people they can that will say they support Paul. This should make no difference but somehow people are so affected by propaganda and opinion that they will be instantaneously swayed one way or another. If a Neo-Nazi said I'm a Romney supporter, would that mean anything about Romney at all? No. However some media and arfcommers alike would use it as evidence to support their stance. The media isn't forcing the idiot Paulsupporters to post here. They just do. |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 4:03:13 AM EDT
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In an attempt to discredit Paul the media has been trying to find the craziest people they can that will say they support Paul. This should make no difference but somehow people are so affected by propaganda and opinion that they will be instantaneously swayed one way or another. If a Neo-Nazi said I'm a Romney supporter, would that mean anything about Romney at all? No. However some media and arfcommers alike would use it as evidence to support their stance. Except Romney doesn't hold neonazi views. Most of these crazy RP supporters are actually mirroring versions of RPs views. That's why everyone calls RP a cook. I'm so sick of Paulbots blaming the media and conspiracy for the politiical situation. They're so stuk in their own bubble they can't understand that there are a ton of Obama supporters and, from all of the people I've talked to that aren't arfcommers, there are a ton of Romney supporters out there. |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 4:03:23 AM EDT
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In an attempt to discredit Paul the media has been trying to find the craziest people they can that will say they support Paul. This should make no difference but somehow people are so affected by propaganda and opinion that they will be instantaneously swayed one way or another. If a Neo-Nazi said I'm a Romney supporter, would that mean anything about Romney at all? No. However some media and arfcommers alike would use it as evidence to support their stance. The media isn't forcing the idiot Paulsupporters to post here. They just do. I never said forcing I said finding. It's not hard to find crazy people to spout off, just look at GD 
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Posted: 1/7/2012 4:05:33 AM EDT
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In an attempt to discredit Paul the media has been trying to find the craziest people they can that will say they support Paul. This should make no difference but somehow people are so affected by propaganda and opinion that they will be instantaneously swayed one way or another. If a Neo-Nazi said I'm a Romney supporter, would that mean anything about Romney at all? No. However some media and arfcommers alike would use it as evidence to support their stance. Except Romney doesn't hold neonazi views. Neither does RP Most of these crazy RP supporters are actually mirroring versions of RPs views here's where the critical thinking part failed. That's why everyone and here's the over generalizationcalls RP a cook. I'm so sick of Paulbots blaming the media and conspiracy for the politiical situation. They're so stuk in their own bubble they can't understand that there are a ton of Obama supporters and, from all of the people I've talked to that aren't arfcommers, there are a ton of Romney supporters out there. |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 4:12:56 AM EDT
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Around me, the homeless crazy dudes support Obama, the gay-bashing racist Hitler group loooooves Romney and Santorum, and some pot-smokers like Ron Paul.
Now who do I vote for? I'm so confuzed.
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Posted: 1/7/2012 4:18:39 AM EDT
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FWIW, I don't think they are crazy either. I think they are evil. There is a difference. Totally agree. |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 4:18:41 AM EDT
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If a Neo-Nazi said I'm a Romney supporter, would that mean anything about Romney at all? No. However some media and arfcommers alike would use it as evidence to support their stance. Except in your example it would be an aberration. Anyone paying attention can see a pretty clear pattern of who the nutcases seem to support the majority of the time. Ahhh, but thats your opinion and in MY opinion quite the over generalization. Many would say that Beck is a complete nutcase, or those other crazy Mormons, or Fanatical Christians, or Republicans, or Dems. Think critically for a couple of seconds and see that your reality is subjective. . I tell you what- show me how many supporters of other candidates on this board support Bradley Manning or have been apologists for what he has done, and I will see how many Paul supporters I can find that do the same. Or even better, go over to Stormfront, the epicenter of the neo-Nazi universe online. They are full of nothing but Ron Paul love in their political forums. They are having fund drives, printing Ron Paul brochures to send out, I mean the white nationalists are hard core Pualbots. It is my opinion, yes, but one formed by lots of observation of verifiable behavior. |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 4:27:15 AM EDT
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If a Neo-Nazi said I'm a Romney supporter, would that mean anything about Romney at all? No. However some media and arfcommers alike would use it as evidence to support their stance. Except in your example it would be an aberration. Anyone paying attention can see a pretty clear pattern of who the nutcases seem to support the majority of the time. Ahhh, but thats your opinion and in MY opinion quite the over generalization. Many would say that Beck is a complete nutcase, or those other crazy Mormons, or Fanatical Christians, or Republicans, or Dems. Think critically for a couple of seconds and see that your reality is subjective. . I tell you what- show me how many supporters of other candidates on this board support Bradley Manning or have been apologists for what he has done, and I will see how many Paul supporters I can find that do the same. Or even better, go over to Stormfront, the epicenter of the neo-Nazi universe online. They are full of nothing but Ron Paul love in their political forums. They are having fund drives, printing Ron Paul brochures to send out, I mean the white nationalists are hard core Pualbots. It is my opinion, yes, but one formed by lots of observation of verifiable behavior. But what does it mean? What does it mean that Neo Nazis like RP. So do a great deal of College students. It means nothing. What matters is your opinion of his policies. It seems extremely ignorant to support or refrain from supporting someone because you don't like another person who is doing the same. Honestly it seems like something fourth graders would do. |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 4:50:41 AM EDT
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I tell you what- show me how many supporters of other candidates on this board support Bradley Manning or have been apologists for what he has done, and I will see how many Paul supporters I can find that do the same. Or even better, go over to Stormfront, the epicenter of the neo-Nazi universe online. They are full of nothing but Ron Paul love in their political forums. They are having fund drives, printing Ron Paul brochures to send out, I mean the white nationalists are hard core Pualbots. It is my opinion, yes, but one formed by lots of observation of verifiable behavior. It's just a matter of time before the usual crowd shows up to slander Ron Paul as being an anti-semite. So I'll post the following paragraph from Mike Kreiger to put that bullshit to bed: "This clip was an insult to me as someone who is Jewish and to all of those Jews I know personally that support Mr. Paul. What is so ironic about this whole anti-Semitic argument is that the guy that is seen as the most influential figure in Austrian economics (the economic perspective that Ron Paul adheres to) is Lugwig Von Mises. Guess what? He was Jewish. How about Murray Rothbard, the economist that popularized Austrian economics in the last couple of decades? Also Jewish. Then during Ron’s 2008 run his economic advisor was Peter Schiff. Another Jew. For an anti-Semite this guy sure surrounds himself with a lot of Jews. " http://www.zerohedge.com/news/mike-krieger-why-he-supports-ron-paul As for Israel, I don't understand why so many of you guys have a hard-on for them. You accuse Bradley Manning of "treason", yet support sending billions of taxpayer dollars to Israel, who spies on us and attacks our ships. You bash Obama daily for socialism, yet Israel makes him look like Reagan on economics. We don't have a treaty with Israel, but many of you insist it is our job to take sides and defend them. |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 4:59:23 AM EDT
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If a Neo-Nazi said I'm a Romney supporter, would that mean anything about Romney at all? No. However some media and arfcommers alike would use it as evidence to support their stance. Except in your example it would be an aberration. Anyone paying attention can see a pretty clear pattern of who the nutcases seem to support the majority of the time. Ahhh, but thats your opinion and in MY opinion quite the over generalization. Many would say that Beck is a complete nutcase, or those other crazy Mormons, or Fanatical Christians, or Republicans, or Dems. Think critically for a couple of seconds and see that your reality is subjective. Once you see this you realize it (what nutcases do or don't do) is not a leg to stand on when considering a potential POTUS, or much anything else. The facts regarding the persons policies are what matter here. But of course if we stuck to that the 24 hour propaganda machines would run out of material real quick. You're right. And considering RP got a good bit of his foreign policy from a council staffed with George Soros folks, I will have to withdrawal any and all support for RP. |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 5:19:17 AM EDT
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If a Neo-Nazi said I'm a Romney supporter, would that mean anything about Romney at all? No. However some media and arfcommers alike would use it as evidence to support their stance. Except in your example it would be an aberration. Anyone paying attention can see a pretty clear pattern of who the nutcases seem to support the majority of the time. Ahhh, but thats your opinion and in MY opinion quite the over generalization. Many would say that Beck is a complete nutcase, or those other crazy Mormons, or Fanatical Christians, or Republicans, or Dems. Think critically for a couple of seconds and see that your reality is subjective. Once you see this you realize it (what nutcases do or don't do) is not a leg to stand on when considering a potential POTUS, or much anything else. The facts regarding the persons policies are what matter here. But of course if we stuck to that the 24 hour propaganda machines would run out of material real quick. You're right. And considering RP got a good bit of his foreign policy from a council staffed with George Soros folks, I will have to withdrawal any and all support for RP. Thank you. and there you go. Good for you for a thought out response. |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 5:25:00 AM EDT
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Meanwhile, other Ron Paul supporters release an ad saying John Huntsman is a "Manchurian Candidate" with Chinese values, and bring up his adopted Chinese daughter.
Nice. |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 5:29:19 AM EDT
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Quoted: Meanwhile, other Ron Paul supporters release an ad saying John Huntsman is a "Manchurian Candidate" with Chinese values, and bring up his adopted Chinese daughter. Nice. Obviously you hate the Constitution, liberty and freedom and stuff. |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 6:49:18 AM EDT
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Meanwhile, other Ron Paul supporters release an ad saying John Huntsman is a "Manchurian Candidate" with Chinese values, and bring up his adopted Chinese daughter. Nice. Stay classy paulbots. |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 6:52:45 AM EDT
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I tell you what- show me how many supporters of other candidates on this board support Bradley Manning or have been apologists for what he has done, and I will see how many Paul supporters I can find that do the same. Or even better, go over to Stormfront, the epicenter of the neo-Nazi universe online. They are full of nothing but Ron Paul love in their political forums. They are having fund drives, printing Ron Paul brochures to send out, I mean the white nationalists are hard core Pualbots. It is my opinion, yes, but one formed by lots of observation of verifiable behavior. It's just a matter of time before the usual crowd shows up to slander Ron Paul as being an anti-semite. So I'll post the following paragraph from Mike Kreiger to put that bullshit to bed: "This clip was an insult to me as someone who is Jewish and to all of those Jews I know personally that support Mr. Paul. What is so ironic about this whole anti-Semitic argument is that the guy that is seen as the most influential figure in Austrian economics (the economic perspective that Ron Paul adheres to) is Lugwig Von Mises. Guess what? He was Jewish. How about Murray Rothbard, the economist that popularized Austrian economics in the last couple of decades? Also Jewish. Then during Ron’s 2008 run his economic advisor was Peter Schiff. Another Jew. For an anti-Semite this guy sure surrounds himself with a lot of Jews. " http://www.zerohedge.com/news/mike-krieger-why-he-supports-ron-paul As for Israel, I don't understand why so many of you guys have a hard-on for them. You accuse Bradley Manning of "treason", yet support sending billions of taxpayer dollars to Israel, who spies on us and attacks our ships. You bash Obama daily for socialism, yet Israel makes him look like Reagan on economics. We don't have a treaty with Israel, but many of you insist it is our job to take sides and defend them. Your reading comprehension must suck. I never said that Paul is an anti-semite. I said that racists, anti-semites and neo-nazis love Ron Paul and tend to overwhelmingly be Paulbots. Your quote says we should judge Paul by the company he keeps. Fair enough, but that sword cuts both ways, so we can also judge Paulbots by their fellow travelers. After all, that is the standard you want us to judge Paul by...... |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 7:09:24 AM EDT
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Let me get this right:
A couple of people called into a radio show with an opinion and you thought that it would be a good idea to start a thread about it? Is that right? |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 7:16:47 AM EDT
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Quoted: Let me get this right: A couple of people called into a radio show with an opinion and you thought that it would be a good idea to start a thread about it? Is that right? Conversely had the supporter of another candidate called in and said they supported their candidate because of religious views there would be ten threads by the usual suspects deriding said candidate on page 1. |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 7:21:09 AM EDT
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Ron Paul, the only candidate that would be a worse POTUS than Obama
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Posted: 1/7/2012 7:21:31 AM EDT
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I like Beck, and I listen to him when I can, as long as he's talking about something worth while. When he starts getting into religion, I turn the knob. However, he has been very clear that people and individuals should support Israel individually.
Are their nutjobs who support Paul, yup. There are also some lying sacks of shit who shill for Romney.
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Posted: 1/7/2012 7:23:39 AM EDT
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Around me, the homeless crazy dudes support Obama, the gay-bashing racist Hitler group loooooves Romney and Santorum, and some pot-smokers like Ron Paul. Now who do I vote for? I'm so confuzed. That's quite the neighborhood you live in. |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 7:31:20 AM EDT
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Let me get this right: A couple of people called into a radio show with an opinion and you thought that it would be a good idea to start a thread about it? Is that right? Conversely had the supporter of another candidate called in and said they supported their candidate because of religious views there would be ten threads by the usual suspects deriding said candidate on page 1. And it would be equally stupid. |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 7:34:11 AM EDT
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As opposed to Ron and his bots shilling for treasonous Manning and terrorism-loving Iran?
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Posted: 1/7/2012 7:37:58 AM EDT
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The only one's who're nuttier than Paul himself are his supporters.
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Posted: 1/7/2012 7:43:15 AM EDT
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yeah, we're to blame for for 911, Osama hated us for what we did to his country. Iran has never threatened the US with destruction, we should let the Iranians get nukes, Islam is a religion of peace and is very tolerant of other religions, countries under Islamic sharia law are as good, if not better allies than Israel.
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Posted: 1/7/2012 7:55:57 AM EDT
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Quoted: In an attempt to discredit Paul the media has been trying to find the craziest people they can that will say they support Paul. This should make no difference but somehow people are so affected by propaganda and opinion that they will be instantaneously swayed one way or another. If a Neo-Nazi said I'm a Romney supporter, would that mean anything about Romney at all? No. However some media and arfcommers alike would use it as evidence to support their stance. I do not support RP, but this is what I think is really going on. This primary is so f'd up, I'm just going to vote for Detritus! |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 8:17:40 AM EDT
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“This guy’s crazy, I believe uneducated, a conspiracy theorist, and a bigot,” concluded Glenn.
And who would know better than you, Glenn, who would no better than you. 
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Posted: 1/7/2012 8:22:40 AM EDT
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I voted Paul in primaries of '08 and I plan on voting for him again this year, but I definitely do not agree with many RP supporters on stances of Israel and Iran, etc..
They take Paul's message, which still would be considered outside of the standard or status quo, and twist it. I do agree that our actions we have taken for self interest in the past have certainly influenced many events that have taken place. I think we need think twice before meddling in any countries affairs in the future and think of the possiblelong term side effects along with our immediate self interest (include long term self interest as well). Make wise decisions. However, what is done is done and you can't change the fact that Iran is aggressive, we have groups that mean us harm, etc.. We need to support Israel. |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 8:25:26 AM EDT
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Just curious, is there any way of proving the caller was a real RP supporter?
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Posted: 1/7/2012 8:27:11 AM EDT
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Quoted: Just curious, is there any way of proving the caller was a real RP supporter? Of course! I should have seen it! It's the vast Bliderberger Conspiracy against Ron Paul at work! Goddamn Lizard people! |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 8:28:46 AM EDT
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I don't know about shill, but beck, savage and medved are advocates for Israel.
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Posted: 1/7/2012 8:30:13 AM EDT
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Just curious, is there any way of proving the caller was a real RP supporter? Of course! I should have seen it! It's the vast Bliderberger Conspiracy against Ron Paul at work! Goddamn Lizard people! Bliderbergermeisrerbergerwhatabergers!!!!!! |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 8:30:29 AM EDT
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Double
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Posted: 1/7/2012 10:25:18 AM EDT
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I like Beck, and I listen to him when I can, as long as he's talking about something worth while. When he starts getting into religion, I turn the knob. However, he has been very clear that people and individuals should support Israel individually. Are their nutjobs who support Paul, yup. There are also some lying sacks of shit who shill for Romney. (cough)McCain(cough) |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 1:11:46 PM EDT
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Since Beck is all about getting his fellow mormon romney elected, and RP is really the only obstacle in the way of that happening...
I'm sure he aired the biggest wackos he could out of everyone that called in... Think about it. |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 1:23:57 PM EDT
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I'm a Ron Paul supporter.
I like both his domestic and foreign policies. (Which most of the antis haven't even read about). There is a difference between saying 9/11 was 'Blowback' (I don't think there is a sane argument for it to be otherwise) and saying it was justified (I don't think there is a sane argument that it was). |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 1:30:46 PM EDT
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Since Beck is all about getting his fellow mormon romney elected, and RP is really the only obstacle in the way of that happening... I'm sure he aired the biggest wackos he could out of everyone that called in... Think about it. Beck is a tool. He talks a good game, but stabs the Liberty Movement in the back at critical junctions. Examples are how he destroyed Debra Medina in 2010 and how he helped to defeat Ron Paul in 2008. Using supporters of candidates to discredit a candidate is a simple trick, yet effective for the "moron class" of Americans. |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 1:44:03 PM EDT
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The caller was a Lavaman in the employ of the Bildergergers and Banksters and everyone knows Lavamen hate freedom and the Constitution and can't be trusted.
Ron Paul's insignificance is only eclipsed by the lunacy of his support base and he draws them from all of the lunatic fringes like no other politician in the history of the galaxy. You have to give the old bastard credit though; he gets them all to send him money. |
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Posted: 1/7/2012 1:49:58 PM EDT
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Probably a member here.
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Posted: 1/7/2012 1:57:30 PM EDT
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Quoted: Yes, yes. Part of the grand Bilderberger Conspiracy in concert with the Military Industrial Complex and the Trilateral Committee. It has nothing to do with the lunacy that falls from Paul's cake hole every time he opens it. Quoted: Since Beck is all about getting his fellow mormon romney elected, and RP is really the only obstacle in the way of that happening... I'm sure he aired the biggest wackos he could out of everyone that called in... Think about it. Beck is a tool. He talks a good game, but stabs the Liberty Movement in the back at critical junctions. Examples are how he destroyed Debra Medina in 2010 and how he helped to defeat Ron Paul in 2008. Using supporters of candidates to discredit a candidate is a simple trick, yet effective for the "moron class" of Americans. |
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