Wikipedia , google , yahoo, or even Youtube James Files.
He has confessed to being the grassy knowl shooter.
Piratebay has the entire video in one piece. Interesting stuff.

The scope came with the rifle.  It was for rifle rounds, not rimfire.

From the first shot fired (a miss) till the 3rd shot fired(fatal hit) was 9-10 seconds.  88 meters was the distance of Oswalds hit to JFK's head.

See this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=kXgKTOj9CjU

ETA: They use the official time line, and also the same scope as Oswald's.

Also, according to the curators of the 6th Floor Museum, it was 10 seconds.

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What irks me is the fifty year seal on some of the HSCA records. Lay it all out and let the chips fall where they may.

Single shooter who acted alone.  Anyone else that tells you otherwise is smoking crack.

Been proved my independent sources as well. The guy who invented the anti-sniper microphone system for the US military is also the guy that was able to trace all the rifle shots heard on old police radio recordings back to the exact spot that Oswald was shooting from.







I think people just can't fathom a NOBODY, a loser capable of killing such a giant and important person. In order for them to believe, they have to think that there was this grand plot that was equally in size as the assassinated President.





Fucking hell, the Arch Duke was killed by a nobody, and that set off a whole fucking world war. It happens.
 

Abraham Zabruder Shot Kennedy

FBI certified fact  


OK, it's that time of year again.  I signed the guest book at the 6th Floor "I voted to Cyril Wecht twice"

There were so many shooters that day, it is amazing the Limo didn't look like the Bonnie and Clyde Death Car


1)   Lee Harvery Oswald shooting Lord knows what from the 6th floor
2)   Badge Man on the steps to the West
3)   Three Tramps Special Forces Sniper Team on the triple underpass
4)   CIA Assassin with an Umbrella
5)   Babushka Woman KGB assassin with a Makarov
6)   MVD Sniper in the storm drain on the east side of the road before the triple underpass
7)   Dan Rather under the Triple Underpass
8)   Secret Service mishandling an AR-15 in the second car with LBJ
9)   Connolly with a pearl handled derringer from the jump seat
10) Greek hitman with a converted polaroid camera that was a .30 calaber gunfrom behind the bubushka woman
11) Elvis with a 1911 from a UFO
12) Snipers hired by the Hunt Brothers behind the Stockade Fence
13) Mafia hitmean from the grass on the left og the Bubushka woman.


But my money is on Abraham Zapruder

Is this the guy who claims he shot him with a Remington XP100 in .221 Fireball from the storm drain?



Interesting interview if so.



 

Last Confessions of E Howard Hunt (Rolling Stone Magazine)

WCC lot number could not be confirmed. I think this is what the Swedish Bikini Team used when they wacked the Pres.

ex boyfriend did it

The fact you are still asking that question makes me think the only guy who benefitted was Oswald.

Interesting, he's like the only person still alive

I think Oswald was the only shooter, but I don't think he was some lone nutjob who decided it was take your gun to work day.

Someone else was behind it all and just played LHO for a sucker.

Yea, but how many rounds are missing from the box?



 

i did it, please dont tell any one.

There was three, but modern scientific testing decided that the box was missing four.
































J/K. The box is still full.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cord_Meyer



Here is a pic of Mary Pinchot Meyer, killed in 1964 by one shot to the head and one to the heart, at point blank or nearly point blank range, in a still unsolved murder. Why would John Kennedy ever cheat on a woman as beautiful as Jackie Onassis? Because even when they were married to the head of "international organizations" for the CIA, he could still pull women like THIS away from their husbands.  







Edited to change pic.

Which shots hit Kennedy? 1st and 2nd, or 2nd and 3rd? Where did the "missing round" impact?

 

Check out a show called JFK: The lost bullet.  Changed my mind about LHO as a solo shooter.  The have pretty convincing evidence of
the first shot hitting the traffic light and ricocheting up the road and spitting up concrete into some guys face.

Another part of that show reproduces how the spent shell casings landed.  1 a fair distance away from 2 that landed together.

ETA favorite quote from the movie Shooter.
Mr. Rate: That's how a conspiracy works. Them boys on the Grassy Knoll they were dead within three hours, buried in the damned desert, unmarked graves out past Terlingua.
Nick Memphis: You know this for a fact?
Mr. Rate: Still got the shovel...

a semi auto, on a stationary target





 

Since about 2003, somebody has spent a good deal of money trying to rehabilitate the Warren Commission's version.

Bilderburgs.

After some extensive research, I've concluded that Alex Mason killed Kennedy.

My only problem with this fact is: How many people do you know that could actually produce their data book from boot-camp? With all the moving around, and limited storage space, especially in an open squad bay, unneeded trash gets tossed pretty quick. I don't know a single Marine who could produce their data book from last year, much less boot-camp.

Graduated from Paris Island in December of 1981.
Just threw my boot camp rifle range book out this summer.
THIRTY YEARS.
And only because it got wet from water coming in the basement.


Oh, very easy shots to make.
Oswald ALONE.
Anyone who truly believes otherwise is a first class moron.

Still have mine as well.





 

There are too many connections at too many levels, on top of what I've been told by my dad who may have also been there but refused to answer my question. Two of his best friends were there, one as a reporter in the motorcade, and the other in official capacity with the CIA.

I'll go ahead and say something. I have been withholding some information. Dad's involvement went a bit deeper than what I have eluded to with the FBI, and what I know. Not regarding the Kennedy assassination exactly, but regarding his involvement with quite a few of the key players in question. My father damn near got caught up in Watergate. He was a "fund raiser" for Nixon, as well as Strom Thurmond, in both the real sense of the word, and in another way. His best friend, Dent, ran part of Operation Townhouse, and he worked for Dent, who coordinated part of it under H.R. Halderman.  What I'm getting at here, is that E. Howard Hunt was involved heavily in this, as was G. Gordon Liddy.  All of these people just don't interconnect from JFK to Watergate and Nixon for no reason. It's not coincidental.

Dent and Watergate etc
In 1974, the year rumors had him aiming for political office, Dent was caught in the expanding Watergate imbroglio. One of the practices uncovered in the investigation was Operation Townhouse, an illegal effort that raised $3 million for GOP candidates in 1970. The operation, so named because it ran from the basement of a private townhouse, essentially provided a slush fund with the goal of blackmailing recipient politicians if it ever came to it. The scheme was a violation of the Corrupt Practices Act, which forbid unregistered campaign groups from providing money in two or more states without first filing financial reports.

Operation Townhouse was established by Nixon aide H.R. Haldeman, with Nixon calling the shots on who would receive funding. Dent admitted that he helped select which candidates would receive money, but did not know where the money was coming from. Dent was given the choice of going to trial on a felony charge of pleading guilty to a misdemeanor. He chose the latter in December of 1974, admitting to a violation of federal campaign finance laws. He was sentenced to one month of unsupervised probation. Dent resigned from his post in the Republican National Committee as a result of the conviction. The court also netted Nixon's personal attorney, Herbert W. Kalbach, and another aide, Jack A. Gleason.

Contemporaries were rather sympathetic to Dent. Political columnist Jack Anderson said Dent's role in the scandal was minimal and "like his mentor [Thurmond], is personally regarded as honest, even by his enemies." Anderson alleged that Dent had even privately denounced the "dirty tricks" in the White House and that such corruption spurred his departure from his post there. Judge George L. Hart, Jr. commented, "It does appear to be as if Mr. Dent were more of an innocent victim than a perpetrator." Dent thanked Hart for the light sentence, but also bemoaned that he would be associated with Watergate and said, "I'm destined for the history books as a bad footnote." Dent said he initially wanted to fight the charge, but was advised against it by his attorneys. "I realized that if I went to trial in Washington, D.C., this old boy with the Southern accent wouldn't have a chance before an all-black jury," he said.

Dent's guilty plea was followed by a probe to see if he would be disbarred, but nothing came of it. He worked for the presidential campaigns of Gerald Ford and George H.W. Bush. Dent also helped cripple John B. Connally's bid for the 1980 Republican nomination by associating him with blacks and gays; Connally grumbled that Dent was the "original dirty trickster." Dent turned his focus to religion, closing his law practice in 1981 and going into the Southern Baptist ministry. Following the fall of Nicole Ceausescu, Communist leader of Romania, Dent made several mission trips there to establish churches and orphanages. He helped to organize the first Senate prayer breakfast in 1989. Dent ultimately wrote five books. In one, he claimed the Southern strategy was meant to fight bias against the South, but when he started his ministry he admitted that he helped exploit racism to benefit Nixon. "When I look back, my biggest regret now is anything that stood in the rights of black people," he said. "Or any people"

I can assure you that Dent knew much more than he alluded to in the investigation. He was after all, a top aide and special counsel, was responsible for winning the election in the south, and Nixon loved the guy and trusted him as completely as Nixon could trust somebody. This much I have firsthand knowledge of, as it was discussed at our kitchen table and in our dining room many times when Mr. Dent would visit. I know that my dad was very concerned about how far down the Watergate and accompanying investigations were going to go, and I remember Harry saying that he shouldn't worry, it wouldn't affect him. They talked here in the home about a lot. I was young, but I paid a lot of attention, and dad had no problem talking about the Nixon administration stuff over the last few years before his stroke.

One other key point. Forget the Bay of Pigs. It's important because of some of the players, but start looking into Vietnam and Kennedy's plans. This is why Kennedy was so dangerous. He was willing to lose Vietnam and allow the spread of communism to go unchecked. He produced a new strategy in 1963, a total pullout by 1965. Kennedy's cabinet was on their way to Hawaii to a the Honolulu conference, when he was touring Dallas. The Johnson had already drawn up a non Kennedy plan before he was assassinated, to remain in Vietnam and to escalate the war. Why did he draw up a non Kennedy plan, before Kennedy was assassinated? This is all covered in legal documents that were submitted as studies in the White House, and part of the  Pentagon Papers. A name that shows up in regards to the papers? E. Howard Hunt. Why is Mr. Hunt, a CIA operative, in every single correct place at every single correct time, with many of the other correct players, that are also somehow in most of the correct places at the correct time?

There is no way that it's all by accident.

The bolt action Carcano carbine is one of the most accurate, fastest firing rifles ever made.  The Warren Commission would not lie.  

The cheap 22 lr scope on that rifle is also one of the best optics ever used.   View of the target is superb and eye position behind the scope is not critical at all.  Neither is the very short eye relief.

Also consider the slow moving, very high sectional density fmj bullet, it is highly explosive and even remains nearly undeformed.  It was called an "ice pick bullet" for a reason.  

The Carcano carbine is the secret weapon that allowed Italy to win WWII.

Oh, wait ..........

We will never know. I think there is more to it than Oswald acting alone, I may be wrong, but as I said, we will ever know.

Yes, and it was also the Russians.

Kennedy was not willing to lose Vietnam.  In fact he wanted badly to win there.  I may not have high praise for him, but he did want to win.  Throughout his short tenure, he was increasing and escalating our presence there.  Allowing advisors to go along on missions, allowing the advisors to defend themselves, allowing advisors to participate.  Sending American helicopters over there, allowing arming them for defense, arming them for attack.  Sending USAF over there to show AFVN how to bomb, then allowing them to bomb, then letting them do the bombing, then sending regular USAF to Thailand to bomb supply lines.  The Navy was there showing ARVN how to conduct maritime operations, then they went along, then they actually piloted the boats and were in charge.

As with all Kennedy's, they want to be remembered as winners.

LBJ wS reluctant as hell to go to war.  "I will not send American boys 10,000 miles over there to do a job that Asian boys ought to be doing themselves."  He truly thought he was following JFK's vision.

For the sake of discussion, I will offer this ad from Klein's from July 1963 ––

Why the hell did Lee Oswald buy a Manilicher Carcano?  For the same money he could have gotten a sporterized (bubba'ed) Enfield.For $10 more he could have gotten a scoped M1917 in 30 aught by God 6.  Hell, the scoped MArlin lever actio in .35 Rem is a better choice.



Why didn't the "Marine" "sharp-shooter" pony up $89 for a "like new" garand?

HEY, I was a 7234 as well!!

MOS 7234 = Tactical Radar Operator

That would be interesting if true, but it isn't.  We had advisers in Vietnam in the early 1950s, but with 1955 being the "official" date of involvement.
What Kennedy believed, was that special forces could easily defeat the Northern communists forces. He patterned his ideas from British SF units effectiveness in the Malayan Emergency. His goal was only to stabilize the south by suppression of rebellions there. He never intended to deploy any more than enough to rain the ARVN forces, and allow them to defeat the suppression inside South Vietnam. He never envisioned using American forces to attack the north even from the air. Kennedy thought initially that he war was just about over by 1962,and evidence in the field suggested that. Reports from the head of MACV supported that assesment. After the battle of AP Bac, the strength of the enemy, and the weakness of our position appeared.

Kennedy told Walter Cronkite that the war may be unwinnable, and that it was a Vietnamese war, and not an American one. The war didn't really start to go bad until spring of 1963, and Kennedy only committed 16,000 troops, including advisers and SF troops. Kennedy had advisers calling for no commitment, and total massive troop commitment. Kennedy only went so far. He was willing to commit money and machinery, but not actual ground troops in numbers needed to win.

Part of the problem was Diem was hated by many people in the south, even non communists. His corruption, and violent crackdowns and the "holding camps" of operation Hamlet. were one reason that support was so easy to gain in the south against his forces by the communists. Add to that , that Diem supported the Catholic minority over the majority Buddhists. What Kennedy decided to do, was to have him overthrown. On November 1st 1963, ARVN forces once loyal to Diem captured him and his brother, and killed them.

Kennedy was assassinated three weeks later. There was never a reason in Kennedy's mind to escalate. His position had been to hold the advancement of communism in check in South Vietnam, in a proxy war, without "real" U.S. involvement. In fact, Kennedy refused to commit "real" ground troops. By early  fall of 1963, Kennedy had already met with McNamara and General Taylor, and had drawn up a withdrawal plan of 1,000 troops in October of 1963, which was carried out, and the remaining 15,000 or so troops to be pulled out after the elections of 1964, which Kennedy had absolute certainty he would win.

Enter Johnson.  After the attack on the Maddox on August the 2nd, the response was limited, but, a report later proven false, that on the 4th, two days later, there was an attack on the C. Turner Joy.  The second attack, one that some say Johnson knew was false, was used to get the Gulf Of Tonkin Resolution passed, which gave Johnson broad war powers,  allowing the massive escalation of the war. Johnson was the first to commit ground troops

On 24 November 1963, Johnson said, "the battle against communism... must be joined... with strength and determination." The pledge came at a time when Vietnam was deteriorating, especially in places like the Mekong Delta, because of the recent coup against Diem. Johnson had reversed Kennedy's disengagement policy from Vietnam in withdrawing 1,000 troops by the end of 1963 (NSAM 263 on 11 October), with his own NSAM 273 (26 November) to expand the war.

Total strength under Kennedy. 16,000 plus, advisers and SF troops, plus support, with 1,000 withdrawn before his death.

Total strength under Johnson.  553,000 in country in 1969 when he left office.

Some evidence

So did my uncle, whom Kennedy left to rot on a Cuban beach after promising to provide air cover for him and his fellow soldiers who were fighting to take back their homeland.

He spent a very long time in a very bad prison, compliments of one Fidel Castro.

Fuck Kennedy with a rusty chainsaw.

You forget  Jackie o with a 32 auto as payback for JFK getting so much strange ...

Considering that Stone used the "Magic Bullet" theory and propagated the falsehood of the seat placement in the Limo...I'm gonna go with "Its fucking Hollywood Alex for $87.00"

As someone else already posted, the Shot was recreated with an identical rifle, ammo from the SAME lot, height, distance, and angle, AND with the seats in proper relation to each other as well as the occupants as close to humans as possible short of cadavers, and Amazingly enough the wound patters matched both JFK and Connolly almost exactly.

This. Oswald acted alone.

Then HE got what he deserved, too....

Oswald did it. Easily. He might have been the best KGB agent ever who flubbed his exfil and then was killed by the mafia in revenge for him killing their pal Kennedy. Oswald has all sorts of shady connections. Or he could have been some 60s OWS type commie with an old rifle.

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What isnt true?  You cant logically say Kennedy was on a de-escalation kick.  There is no way you can deny what I put forth.  Read some of SF Advisor books from early in the war.  They flat out mention they were getting deeper into the war.  You also cannot deny the buildup in Thailand of regular USAF personnel.  Kennedy absolutely wanted a win, and wouldve done what was necesary to get it.

1961 3,025
1962 11,500 (not including helicopters crews)
1963 16,300 (not including helicopter crews, jet aircraft crews, USAF security)

That said Kennedy did have withdrawal plans.  There's no doubt.  However they were for worst case scenarios such as major Chinese or Russian involvement, other hotspots closer to home.  He was warned that it could become a quagmire, but was convinced that his way eas superior.


"Now we have a problem making our power credible and Vietnam looks like the place" -JFK

I shit you not...he was broke.  He had a shit job and a family to feed and house.

He didnt buy the rifle and handgun with the intention of assassinating the president.

I really hope, that this time, an ARFCOM thread solves the mystery behind the JFK assassination.  

Hm....



I think Arfcom already did.

No doubt in my mind he pulled it off, I just want to take a peek at the sealed HSCA documents.

All the previously sealed HSCA records were released by 1998.