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Posted: 10/9/2011 8:52:45 PM EDT
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How long do you think your thread will last?
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Posted: 10/9/2011 8:52:50 PM EDT
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Oh no you didn't!!! |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 8:53:33 PM EDT
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I predict a lockdown in 3, 2, 1,
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Posted: 10/9/2011 8:53:47 PM EDT
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Can you do another one of these so I can watch?
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Posted: 10/9/2011 8:53:59 PM EDT
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IBTL
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Posted: 10/9/2011 8:54:16 PM EDT
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You B52 is no match for the wrath of a mod thread lock
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Posted: 10/9/2011 8:55:46 PM EDT
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Hell, I'll bite. I'll miss these threads.
What's the oldest airframe you ever flew? I hear some of the old BUFFs are old enough to have possibly had 3 generations of the same family fly 'em |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 8:55:52 PM EDT
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Have you ever done a JATO assist take-off....if so were there any noticeable differences in G-force (I know stupid question).
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Posted: 10/9/2011 8:56:13 PM EDT
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actually we did one of them about a month ago up here, can't say when another one will happen though. OPSEC and all that. Honestly aside from signing for canned sunshine, the alert response is the only cool part of a Nuc gen. The 12hr shifts sitting in a trailer by the jet do tend to get boring pretty fast |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 8:56:30 PM EDT
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B-52's and Herc's are way cool.
Ever get a chance to push up the throttles and pull the yoke ? |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 8:56:35 PM EDT
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InBeforeMonday?
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Posted: 10/9/2011 8:57:39 PM EDT
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Hell, I'll bite. I'll miss these threads. What's the oldest airframe you ever flew? I hear some of the old BUFFs are old enough to have possibly had 3 generations of the same family fly 'em oldest BUFF: 1960, the jet I'm a DCC was ordered in 1960 oldest Herk: 1961, did a refuel on a very early C-130E that was ordered in 61 while I was an A1C doing HOT training at Little Rock AFB AR |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 8:57:44 PM EDT
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Ah, heck.
Why not, Minot??? Actually, how long is the Herc and Buff gonna stay aloft? At least the Army tends to retire systems within 50 years or so.  Except the M16. How many mods can you make and keep the same system.......................................... Forever????????????????
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Posted: 10/9/2011 8:57:46 PM EDT
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You B52 is no match for the wrath of a mod thread lock "Wrath of Mod" that has a nice ring to it. Sounds kinda biblical.
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Posted: 10/9/2011 8:58:26 PM EDT
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What prompted you to start this thread?
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Posted: 10/9/2011 8:58:34 PM EDT
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B-52's and Herc's are way cool. Ever get a chance to push up the throttles and pull the yoke ? got to fly on the Herks while in the sandbox, was engine run certified on them too haven't flown on BUFF yet or ran engines for that matter either |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 8:59:13 PM EDT
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In on this too
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Posted: 10/9/2011 9:00:03 PM EDT
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You B52 is no match for the wrath of a mod thread lock "Wrath of Mod" that has a nice ring to it. Sounds kinda biblical.
MMMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 
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Posted: 10/9/2011 9:00:55 PM EDT
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Ah, heck. Why not, Minot??? Actually, how long is the Herc and Buff gonna stay aloft? At least the Army tends to retire systems within 50 years or so. Except the M16. How many mods can you make and keep the same system. Forever????????????????Herks: Lockheed is still building them, new C-130J's are rolling out of Marietta right now BUFF: they're slated to stay on until the 2030s-2040s time frame. I don't know if that'll really happen though. The parts supply system form the BUFF is pretty bad and honestly while the airframe hours on them are below 20,000, they are all now 50 yrs old and starting to wear out |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 9:01:39 PM EDT
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What prompted you to start this thread? honestly the B52 thread from earlier, not the shenanigans from earlier today |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 9:05:10 PM EDT
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Have you ever done a JATO assist take-off....if so were there any noticeable differences in G-force (I know stupid question). the only AF guys to play with JATO anymore is the NYANG, they have the LC-130H's, the snowbirds that do the Antarctic missions However all of the C-130E's and 1973 production C-130H's (super-E's) had the JATO mounts on their air deflector doors and the switchs for JATO still installed. The bottle jettison t-handles are still installed in the walls in the cargo boxes on those aircraft |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 9:06:41 PM EDT
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Wow...
You have guts... |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 9:06:46 PM EDT
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If you had to work on one for the rest of your life, Boeing or Lockheed?
My choice is Boeing or Douglas... Boeing.
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Posted: 10/9/2011 9:15:21 PM EDT
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If you had to work on one for the rest of your life, Boeing or Lockheed? My choice is Boeing or Douglas... Boeing. tough question that I get asked a lot, both jets have good and bad things about them. But honestly I'd sooner work Herks. Better supply system, better TO system, ability to go ANYWHERE, tons of different missions, actually has an APU or GTC, ailerons, more redundant features such as flaps that can be hand cranked up and down. Not that I don't like the BUFF but I honestly think that once SAC was disbanded in 1992 it became a red headed step child of ACC and only now since the GWOT kicked off and the sheningans of the Nuc incident of 2007 is the AF as a whole actually paying attention again to them, but its somewhat late and hard to fix 20 years of neglect. Also to me the BUFF is an airframe that was designed and built in a hurry for primarily just one mission in mind. It has a very large maintenance footprint and just doesn't seem as well thought out of a design. Not thats its a bad design, but the Herk to me is a more thought out aircraft |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 9:21:54 PM EDT
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Quoted: do you believe that if either the B2 or the B1 were ordered in the numbers originally scribbled down that they would be worthy replacements for what the BUFF does?Quoted: If you had to work on one for the rest of your life, Boeing or Lockheed? My choice is Boeing or Douglas... Boeing. tough question that I get asked a lot, both jets have good and bad things about them. But honestly I'd sooner work Herks. Better supply system, better TO system, ability to go ANYWHERE, tons of different missions, actually has an APU or GTC, ailerons, more redundant features such as flaps that can be hand cranked up and down. Not that I don't like the BUFF but I honestly think that once SAC was disbanded in 1992 it became a red headed step child of ACC and only now since the GWOT kicked off and the sheningans of the Nuc incident of 2007 is the AF as a whole actually paying attention again to them, but its somewhat late and hard to fix 20 years of neglect. Also to me the BUFF is an airframe that was designed and built in a hurry for primarily just one mission in mind. It has a very large maintenance footprint and just doesn't seem as well thought out of a design. Not thats its a bad design, but the Herk to me is a more thought out aircraft |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 9:28:26 PM EDT
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do you believe that if either the B2 or the B1 were ordered in the numbers originally scribbled down that they would be worthy replacements for what the BUFF does?
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If you had to work on one for the rest of your life, Boeing or Lockheed? My choice is Boeing or Douglas... Boeing. tough question that I get asked a lot, both jets have good and bad things about them. But honestly I'd sooner work Herks. Better supply system, better TO system, ability to go ANYWHERE, tons of different missions, actually has an APU or GTC, ailerons, more redundant features such as flaps that can be hand cranked up and down. Not that I don't like the BUFF but I honestly think that once SAC was disbanded in 1992 it became a red headed step child of ACC and only now since the GWOT kicked off and the sheningans of the Nuc incident of 2007 is the AF as a whole actually paying attention again to them, but its somewhat late and hard to fix 20 years of neglect. Also to me the BUFF is an airframe that was designed and built in a hurry for primarily just one mission in mind. It has a very large maintenance footprint and just doesn't seem as well thought out of a design. Not thats its a bad design, but the Herk to me is a more thought out aircraft Granted I've never worked either airframe; but the B-2 maybe, but B-1 HELL NO!!!! From what I saw of the B-1's while working Herks at Dyess AFB TX they are a Hydraulics sytem nightmare and averaged an IFE ( in-flight emergency) darn near once a week. Don't get me wrong the Bone is doing a fine job over in A-stan doing CAS and show of force missions but they are a maintneance hog |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 9:31:02 PM EDT
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Wow... You have guts... "...and guts is enough" Perhaps he should be the new squad leader |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 9:35:28 PM EDT
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Hey Scout..er...Beamy
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Thank you for yer sevice!. Let me know on FB what the earlier shenanigans were.
Keep'em flying!! |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 9:37:23 PM EDT
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Hey Scout..er...Beamy ,
Thank you for yer sevice!. Let me know on FB what the earlier shenanigans were.
Keep'em flying!! Thanks Gunner |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 9:40:35 PM EDT
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do you believe that if either the B2 or the B1 were ordered in the numbers originally scribbled down that they would be worthy replacements for what the BUFF does?
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If you had to work on one for the rest of your life, Boeing or Lockheed? My choice is Boeing or Douglas... Boeing. tough question that I get asked a lot, both jets have good and bad things about them. But honestly I'd sooner work Herks. Better supply system, better TO system, ability to go ANYWHERE, tons of different missions, actually has an APU or GTC, ailerons, more redundant features such as flaps that can be hand cranked up and down. Not that I don't like the BUFF but I honestly think that once SAC was disbanded in 1992 it became a red headed step child of ACC and only now since the GWOT kicked off and the sheningans of the Nuc incident of 2007 is the AF as a whole actually paying attention again to them, but its somewhat late and hard to fix 20 years of neglect. Also to me the BUFF is an airframe that was designed and built in a hurry for primarily just one mission in mind. It has a very large maintenance footprint and just doesn't seem as well thought out of a design. Not thats its a bad design, but the Herk to me is a more thought out aircraft Granted I've never worked either airframe; but the B-2 maybe, but B-1 HELL NO!!!! From what I saw of the B-1's while working Herks at Dyess AFB TX they are a Hydraulics sytem nightmare and averaged an IFE ( in-flight emergency) darn near once a week. Don't get me wrong the Bone is doing a fine job over in A-stan doing CAS and show of force missionsbut they are a maintneance hog] This right here.They do great in the AOR because they fly for longer than 1.5 hours. C130s are much more logistics friendly ie; lots more spares in the system. BUFFSs have a fuck load of spares/LRUs laying around. The only problem is that its called AMARG where they get it from. The B1 is the same way. |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 9:46:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/9/2011 9:50:25 PM EDT
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What prompted you to start this thread? honestly the B52 thread from earlier, not the shenanigans from earlier today Ok, what did I miss ? |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 9:51:58 PM EDT
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What prompted you to start this thread? honestly the B52 thread from earlier, not the shenanigans from earlier today Ok, what did I miss ? look back a few pages and you'll see 
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Posted: 10/9/2011 9:54:55 PM EDT
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This reminds me of the hog thread from earlier.
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Posted: 10/9/2011 9:57:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/9/2011 10:03:18 PM EDT
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Been active duty now a little over seven years. Did about five and half of them as a C-130 Crew Chief, now have about a year and a half on the BUFF title changed What is the recall code for the CRM discriminator? |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 10:07:02 PM EDT
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Been active duty now a little over seven years. Did about five and half of them as a C-130 Crew Chief, now have about a year and a half on the BUFF title changed What is the recall code for the CRM discriminator? I'll have to get with Maj Kong on that one, Gen Ripper appointed him the head of that project
granted that is ComNav equipment and last time I checked I'm not a WOW playing pointyhead |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 10:07:55 PM EDT
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Been active duty now a little over seven years. Did about five and half of them as a C-130 Crew Chief, now have about a year and a half on the BUFF title changed Do ac130s bring the rape like in modern warfare two? I thought ac130s were transport primarily are they attack/support too? |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 10:12:38 PM EDT
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A couple questions.
First, tell me everything you can about this: 
Second, why would there be a group of those ^ being escorted by some of these: 
around Shreveport, LA? Training exercise? Doesn't look like the -15 is carrying anything. |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 10:13:19 PM EDT
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Just messing with ya. Thank you for your service.
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Posted: 10/9/2011 10:13:49 PM EDT
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I've always wondered:
How much does a Buff climb after dropping a full payload of ord.? |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 10:18:41 PM EDT
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Been active duty now a little over seven years. Did about five and half of them as a C-130 Crew Chief, now have about a year and a half on the BUFF title changed Do ac130s bring the rape like in modern warfare two? I thought ac130s were transport primarily are they attack/support too? the Herk is one of the most adaptable platforms there is. As to the gunships bringing rape like in MW2, I wouldn't know, I worked on trash hauling slicks (standard cargo haulers) The USAF has Herks that are the following: C-130––––cargo jet, hauls bullets, beans, troops, trucks, etc. The ANG and AFRC also mod them for firefighting and mosquito spraying operations AC-130––-gunship HC-130––-rescue bird and helecopter refueler EC-130––-electronic warfare LC-130––-equipped with ski landing gear and JATO for arctic operations MC-130–––– special operations jets, these haul Rangers, SEALs, tier 1 typres into and out of some really crazy places WC-130––-Hurricane hunter, flys into Hurricane to gather storm data |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 10:20:36 PM EDT
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A couple questions. First, tell me everything you can about this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/zack3gpics/d90/7e856b63.jpg Second, why would there be a group of those ^ being escorted by some of these: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/zack3gpics/d90/5b8376c0.jpg around Shreveport, LA? Training exercise? Doesn't look like the -15 is carrying anything. Barksdale AFB which is the other current BUFF base is in Lousiana. As to the Seymour -Johnson Eagles flying with the Barksdale marked BUFF, sounds like a training mission |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 10:21:47 PM EDT
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A couple questions. First, tell me everything you can about this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/zack3gpics/d90/7e856b63.jpg Second, why would there be a group of those ^ being escorted by some of these: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/zack3gpics/d90/5b8376c0.jpg around Shreveport, LA? Training exercise? Doesn't look like the -15 is carrying anything. The Seemore Dick jet looks like its got tanks and a captive on it so its probably just trans to some where else (going to Red Flag maybe?). The BUFF belongs there. Barksdale is right there by Shreveport. How many F15s did you see? |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 10:21:48 PM EDT
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I've always wondered: How much does a Buff climb after dropping a full payload of ord.? Sorry, you got me with that question. Honestly though that would depend on the type ordinance and fuel load |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 10:23:39 PM EDT
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A couple questions. First, tell me everything you can about this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/zack3gpics/d90/7e856b63.jpg Second, why would there be a group of those ^ being escorted by some of these: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/zack3gpics/d90/5b8376c0.jpg around Shreveport, LA? Training exercise? Doesn't look like the -15 is carrying anything. The Seemore Dick jet looks like its got tanks and a captive on it so its probably just trans to some where else (going to Red Flag maybe?). The BUFF belongs there. Barksdale is right there by Shreveport. How many F15s did you see? There were several of the B52s flying in a line, and the last one had two of these F15s behind and below to either side. |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 10:30:57 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I've always wondered: How much does a Buff climb after dropping a full payload of ord.? Sorry, you got me with that question. Honestly though that would depend on the type ordinance and fuel load Just sort of curious. I watched a show last night on the B52 dropping a full load of ord (30000 pounds IIRC) and the aircraft seemed to gain 750' of altitude in a few seconds. |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 10:53:28 PM EDT
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If you had to work on one for the rest of your life, Boeing or Lockheed? My choice is Boeing or Douglas... Boeing. McDonnell Douglas/Boeing for me. |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 11:36:02 PM EDT
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On my cherry jump not a single one of us landed on the drop zone. Only two of us actually landed on base and we were stuck in the trees. It was a day jump.
Just how hard is it, when you're only 800 feet off the ground, to see a giant green field with flashing Pathfinder beacons and big orange markers? I was door man many times after that and I sure as heck didn't have any trouble seeing the ground. 
While we're on the subject..........we lost 3 C-130 engines on a jump. I'll withhold my true feelings about how we felt for not being allowed to jump outta that death trap. We were all chuted up but you guys wouldn't let us out. grumble grumble grumble....... I was impressed that only one engine kept us going long enough to make it back to the airfield. How far can one engine pull a C-130? What are the chances of losing 3 engines on one flight? And what would you say was the most likely cause? And oh yeah, is there any specific reason we couldn't GTFO? Weight distribution? Payback? Nobody would tell us anything, its a mystery. |
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Posted: 10/9/2011 11:53:19 PM EDT
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I was impressed that only one engine kept us going long enough to make it back to the airfield. How far can one engine pull a C-130? What are the chances of losing 3 engines on one flight? And what would you say was the most likely cause? And oh yeah, is there any specific reason we couldn't GTFO? Weight distribution? Payback? Nobody would tell us anything, its a mystery. That's some crazy shit right there. The crew would usually IFE if they lost one engine in flight, three that is some crazy shit thats pretty much NEVER happens. As to you guys getting out, the crew was primarily concerned with following the emergency checklist, dumping excess gas, and landing the damn plane to let you guys make your jump. As to the cause of losing three engines in flight could have been a number of things either mechanical or hell myabe they hit a flock of birds and all three engines FODed out. As to a Herk flying on one motor, I don't know how far they can go that way but I'd assume not very far, that's some lucky shit. |
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