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Originally Posted By RandyMagnum:
Nolo can the next President go after Eric Holder and resent what ever protections this moron set forth? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RandyMagnum:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Search the lists for "blog" Nolo can the next President go after Eric Holder and resent what ever protections this moron set forth? The President holds the privilege. |
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Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
The President holds the privilege. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Originally Posted By RandyMagnum:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Search the lists for "blog" Nolo can the next President go after Eric Holder and resent what ever protections this moron set forth? The President holds the privilege. Almost 20k posts for you, make the big number a special one! |
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LEGALIZE FREEDOM!
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W.W. Corrigan:"I pledge allegiance and fealty to my country's shadow government in Washington D.C.May it occasionally be right, but even when wrong my shadow government first, forever, and foremost."
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Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:
More information on this teaser? My connection too slow to download a file that large. Particularly if my daughters are streaming something..... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Search the lists for "blog" More information on this teaser? My connection too slow to download a file that large. Particularly if my daughters are streaming something..... They reference many "bloggers" and "blogs". Some are listed, some aren't. But it goes to show you the extent of media research they do. |
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Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
They reference many "bloggers" and "blogs". Some are listed, some aren't. But it goes to show you the extent of media research they do. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Search the lists for "blog" More information on this teaser? My connection too slow to download a file that large. Particularly if my daughters are streaming something..... They reference many "bloggers" and "blogs". Some are listed, some aren't. But it goes to show you the extent of media research they do. This place has to be at the top of the list... |
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"The only title in our democracy superior to that of President is the title of citizen"
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Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
They reference many "bloggers" and "blogs". Some are listed, some aren't. But it goes to show you the extent of media research they do. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Search the lists for "blog" More information on this teaser? My connection too slow to download a file that large. Particularly if my daughters are streaming something..... They reference many "bloggers" and "blogs". Some are listed, some aren't. But it goes to show you the extent of media research they do. So, we're all on another 'list'? |
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W.W. Corrigan:"I pledge allegiance and fealty to my country's shadow government in Washington D.C.May it occasionally be right, but even when wrong my shadow government first, forever, and foremost."
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Will BHO issue more pardons than FDR? He certainly seems to have the material to work with. FDR's # is 3,687.
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Nickname: Doc. Came with wild hair and a DeLorean
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Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:
So, we're all on another 'list'? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Search the lists for "blog" More information on this teaser? My connection too slow to download a file that large. Particularly if my daughters are streaming something..... They reference many "bloggers" and "blogs". Some are listed, some aren't. But it goes to show you the extent of media research they do. So, we're all on another 'list'? There's a list I'd be proud to be on. |
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David Codrea: DOJ and ATF appealing ‘No Angel’ Dobyns' court settlement order
The Department of Justice and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives are appealing a settlement in the case of Dobyns v United States, a post by retired agent Jay Dobyns on the Clean Up ATF member forum announced Friday. In September, U.S. Court of Federal Claims Judge Francis M. Allegra awarded Dobyns $173,000 and denied government royalty claims against Dobyns for his book, "No Angel: My Harrowing Undercover Journey to the Inner Circle of the Hells Angels."
“The battle continues,” Dobyns noted in his post on the website set up by Bureau insiders to expose agency corruption, and from which allegations about the Operation Fast and Furious “gunwalking” scandal were first made. “Today DOJ and ATF appealed the judge's decision on my lawsuit. It will now be heard before the Federal Circuit Court of Appeals. When? Not sure. How long? Maybe years.” “The single-sentence notice of appeal does not explain the basis of the appeal,” The Arizona Republic confirmed Friday. “An ATF spokeswoman said she was unfamiliar with the details of the matter and unable to comment further. An attorney for the Department of Justice did not immediately return messages left late Friday afternoon.” View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Everrest:
David Codrea: DOJ and ATF appealing ‘No Angel’ Dobyns' court settlement order More at Link. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Everrest:
David Codrea: DOJ and ATF appealing ‘No Angel’ Dobyns' court settlement order The Department of Justice and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives are appealing a settlement in the case of Dobyns v United States, a post by retired agent Jay Dobyns on the Clean Up ATF member forum announced Friday. In September, U.S. Court of Federal Claims Judge Francis M. Allegra awarded Dobyns $173,000 and denied government royalty claims against Dobyns for his book, "No Angel: My Harrowing Undercover Journey to the Inner Circle of the Hells Angels."
“The battle continues,” Dobyns noted in his post on the website set up by Bureau insiders to expose agency corruption, and from which allegations about the Operation Fast and Furious “gunwalking” scandal were first made. “Today DOJ and ATF appealed the judge's decision on my lawsuit. It will now be heard before the Federal Circuit Court of Appeals. When? Not sure. How long? Maybe years.” “The single-sentence notice of appeal does not explain the basis of the appeal,” The Arizona Republic confirmed Friday. “An ATF spokeswoman said she was unfamiliar with the details of the matter and unable to comment further. An attorney for the Department of Justice did not immediately return messages left late Friday afternoon.” From that thread.... WTF? ETA: I know that forum is difficult to read because of the structure but it is always worth the effort. Jay, he mad.... |
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"The only title in our democracy superior to that of President is the title of citizen"
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Originally Posted By burbanite:
From that thread.... WTF? ETA: I know that forum is difficult to read because of the structure but it is always worth the effort. Jay, he mad.... View Quote He goes on some epic rants on his FB page too. |
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Originally Posted By RandyMagnum:
Nolo can the next President go after Eric Holder and resent what ever protections this moron set forth? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RandyMagnum:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Search the lists for "blog" Nolo can the next President go after Eric Holder and resent what ever protections this moron set forth? Edit: I don't think you will see any pardons. |
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Originally Posted By miker84:
He goes on some epic rants on his FB page too. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By miker84:
Originally Posted By burbanite:
From that thread.... WTF? ETA: I know that forum is difficult to read because of the structure but it is always worth the effort. Jay, he mad.... He goes on some epic rants on his FB page too. I've seen them, and they are good... My WTF referred to this... abteilung, on 29 Sept 2014 - 3:28 PM, said:
Don't expect him to hold that job very long. A little birdie inside the Beltway just whispered in my ear that Mr. Holder will get nominated for the next Supreme Court vacancy within the next 2 years. |
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"The only title in our democracy superior to that of President is the title of citizen"
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Originally Posted By burbanite:
I've seen them, and they are good... My WTF referred to this... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By burbanite:
Originally Posted By miker84:
Originally Posted By burbanite:
From that thread.... WTF? ETA: I know that forum is difficult to read because of the structure but it is always worth the effort. Jay, he mad.... He goes on some epic rants on his FB page too. I've seen them, and they are good... My WTF referred to this... abteilung, on 29 Sept 2014 - 3:28 PM, said:
Don't expect him to hold that job very long. A little birdie inside the Beltway just whispered in my ear that Mr. Holder will get nominated for the next Supreme Court vacancy within the next 2 years. They must be out of their fucking minds. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Better to be a complete ass, than a half ass.
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FDR appointed 2 proud KKK members to the Supreme Court, including Alabama Senator Hugo Black, so appointing Eric Holder to the Supreme Court is typical socialist/leftist tactics at its best.
They have enough dirt on all the RINO's to stick it to them so they can be easily coerced into confirming the nomination. You could show bodies, crying families, pictures of Brian Terry's funeral, and all the Dem's will still vote to confirm the nomination. Look at the insane amounts of baggage that Elena Kagan and Sonya Sotomayor brought with them, including the open statements about the Judicial Branch making legislation, the open anti-US militray policies of Kagan, and the racist statements from Sonya. These are unashamed leftists, pure and simple. Expect bold, shameless, double-down corruption and intimidation, lying, and typical dishonesty from them every chance they are given. |
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Feds planted classified docs on reporter Sharyl Attkisson’s computer, monitored every keystroke
But the most shocking finding, she says, was the discovery of three classified documents that Number One told her were “buried deep in your operating system. In a place that, unless you’re a some kind of computer whiz specialist, you wouldn’t even know exists.”
“They probably planted them to be able to accuse you of having classified documents if they ever needed to do that at some point,” Number One added. View Quote http://nypost.com/2014/10/27/ex-cbs-reporter-government-related-entity-bugged-my-computer/ |
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I know this is not the first time stuff like this has happened, but how is it that we allowed the AG to become the administrations personal counsel?
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“There are two ways to conquer and enslave a country. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.” John Adams
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Originally Posted By miker84:
Feds planted classified docs on reporter Sharyl Attkisson’s computer, monitored every keystroke http://nypost.com/2014/10/27/ex-cbs-reporter-government-related-entity-bugged-my-computer/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By miker84:
Feds planted classified docs on reporter Sharyl Attkisson’s computer, monitored every keystroke But the most shocking finding, she says, was the discovery of three classified documents that Number One told her were “buried deep in your operating system. In a place that, unless you’re a some kind of computer whiz specialist, you wouldn’t even know exists.”
“They probably planted them to be able to accuse you of having classified documents if they ever needed to do that at some point,” Number One added. http://nypost.com/2014/10/27/ex-cbs-reporter-government-related-entity-bugged-my-computer/ |
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Originally Posted By hugh1:
This makes one wonder if many more reporters and editors haven't had the computers hacked and there ability to report the truth compromised. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By hugh1:
Originally Posted By miker84:
Feds planted classified docs on reporter Sharyl Attkisson’s computer, monitored every keystroke But the most shocking finding, she says, was the discovery of three classified documents that Number One told her were “buried deep in your operating system. In a place that, unless you’re a some kind of computer whiz specialist, you wouldn’t even know exists.”
“They probably planted them to be able to accuse you of having classified documents if they ever needed to do that at some point,” Number One added. http://nypost.com/2014/10/27/ex-cbs-reporter-government-related-entity-bugged-my-computer/ How many reporters actually dug into F&F? What other major stories did she break/report on in that time frame? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Originally Posted By xjronx:
How many reporters actually dug into F&F? What other major stories did she break/report on in that time frame? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By xjronx:
Originally Posted By hugh1:
Originally Posted By miker84:
Feds planted classified docs on reporter Sharyl Attkisson’s computer, monitored every keystroke But the most shocking finding, she says, was the discovery of three classified documents that Number One told her were “buried deep in your operating system. In a place that, unless you’re a some kind of computer whiz specialist, you wouldn’t even know exists.”
“They probably planted them to be able to accuse you of having classified documents if they ever needed to do that at some point,” Number One added. http://nypost.com/2014/10/27/ex-cbs-reporter-government-related-entity-bugged-my-computer/ How many reporters actually dug into F&F? What other major stories did she break/report on in that time frame? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Nickname: Doc. Came with wild hair and a DeLorean
OH, USA
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Originally Posted By miker84:
Feds planted classified docs on reporter Sharyl Attkisson’s computer, monitored every keystroke http://nypost.com/2014/10/27/ex-cbs-reporter-government-related-entity-bugged-my-computer/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By miker84:
Feds planted classified docs on reporter Sharyl Attkisson’s computer, monitored every keystroke But the most shocking finding, she says, was the discovery of three classified documents that Number One told her were “buried deep in your operating system. In a place that, unless you’re a some kind of computer whiz specialist, you wouldn’t even know exists.”
“They probably planted them to be able to accuse you of having classified documents if they ever needed to do that at some point,” Number One added. http://nypost.com/2014/10/27/ex-cbs-reporter-government-related-entity-bugged-my-computer/ What....I....man this is fucked up. |
"We're all new here, kid. The old ones are either dead or in the hospital. What the hell did you expect, a two week pass to Paris? Get in line and do what you're told, or you'll be dead before sunup."
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Nickname: Doc. Came with wild hair and a DeLorean
OH, USA
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Originally Posted By miker84:
Guess we need to dust off P4B. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By miker84:
Originally Posted By RocketmanOU:
What....I....man this is fucked up. Guess we need to dust off P4B. Still got the whiskey, waiting for the go codes ETA: And holy shit, I thought I was the only one who'd remember that |
"We're all new here, kid. The old ones are either dead or in the hospital. What the hell did you expect, a two week pass to Paris? Get in line and do what you're told, or you'll be dead before sunup."
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"The only title in our democracy superior to that of President is the title of citizen"
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Well, well, well.
Why Eric "THE MOTHERFUCKING COMMUNIST" witHolder resigned. Out. Of. Control. |
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Speaking of ATF, I hope everyone in this thread is following the thread below and contributing.
Form 1 Machine Gun Approved then taken back by ATF |
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Originally Posted By miker84:
Feds planted classified docs on reporter Sharyl Attkisson’s computer, monitored every keystroke http://nypost.com/2014/10/27/ex-cbs-reporter-government-related-entity-bugged-my-computer/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By miker84:
Feds planted classified docs on reporter Sharyl Attkisson’s computer, monitored every keystroke But the most shocking finding, she says, was the discovery of three classified documents that Number One told her were “buried deep in your operating system. In a place that, unless you’re a some kind of computer whiz specialist, you wouldn’t even know exists.”
“They probably planted them to be able to accuse you of having classified documents if they ever needed to do that at some point,” Number One added. http://nypost.com/2014/10/27/ex-cbs-reporter-government-related-entity-bugged-my-computer/ So somebody released classified documents in violation of Federal law? Why haven't they been charged yet? The fact that they haven't been charged seems to indicate that the Federal government did it. |
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OIG report on Kingery who was caught smuggling grenade hulls and ammo into Mexico.
A Review of ATF’s Investigation of Jean Baptiste Kingery PDF |
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Originally Posted By burbanite:
This is absolute proof that the cover up exists. Now is the time to scream this abuse of EP from the rooftops and use it to show just how desperate that traitor in the White House is to protect his friends. I look at this as a good thing because there is no way to hide it, no way to explain it away, no good answer as to why you would involve your friends wife and hide her from scrutiny. It is time to ramp up the pressure again and keep this in the forefront. FBHO/FUEH. View Quote If the news does not cover it, it is hidden enough. |
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Originally Posted By Mach:
If the news does not cover it, it is hidden enough. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mach:
Originally Posted By burbanite:
This is absolute proof that the cover up exists. Now is the time to scream this abuse of EP from the rooftops and use it to show just how desperate that traitor in the White House is to protect his friends. I look at this as a good thing because there is no way to hide it, no way to explain it away, no good answer as to why you would involve your friends wife and hide her from scrutiny. It is time to ramp up the pressure again and keep this in the forefront. FBHO/FUEH. If the news does not cover it, it is hidden enough. Edited for clarity. |
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Originally Posted By TX_M1:
So somebody released classified documents in violation of Federal law? Why haven't they been charged yet? The fact that they haven't been charged seems to indicate that the Federal government did it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TX_M1:
Originally Posted By miker84:
Feds planted classified docs on reporter Sharyl Attkisson’s computer, monitored every keystroke But the most shocking finding, she says, was the discovery of three classified documents that Number One told her were “buried deep in your operating system. In a place that, unless you’re a some kind of computer whiz specialist, you wouldn’t even know exists.”
“They probably planted them to be able to accuse you of having classified documents if they ever needed to do that at some point,” Number One added. http://nypost.com/2014/10/27/ex-cbs-reporter-government-related-entity-bugged-my-computer/ So somebody released classified documents in violation of Federal law? Why haven't they been charged yet? The fact that they haven't been charged seems to indicate that the Federal government did it. Excellent point! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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A friend sent me the following:
Gov just dumped 64K F&F docs improperly withheld under executive privilege. View Quote Anybody have any information? Google is useless at the moment, showing nothing. |
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Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:
A friend sent me the following: Gov just dumped 64K F&F docs improperly withheld under executive privilege. View Quote Anybody have any information? Google is useless at the moment, showing nothing. View Quote Not many details here either... "In an “election eve dump,” as House Oversight and Government Reform Committee chairman Darrell Issa (R., Calif.) put it, DOJ handed over 64,280 pages of documents, a release that is still only a partial fulfillment of the committee’s request." http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/391919/election-eve-dump-eric-holder-releases-fast-and-furious-documents-got-him-cited edit to quote UtahShotgunner |
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""Surely something must be terribly wrong with a man who seems to be far more concerned with a Jew building a house in Israel than with a Muslim building a nuclear bomb in Iran."
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Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:
A friend sent me the following: Anybody have any information? Google is useless at the moment, showing nothing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:
A friend sent me the following: Gov just dumped 64K F&F docs improperly withheld under executive privilege. Anybody have any information? Google is useless at the moment, showing nothing. http://oversight.house.gov/release/election-eve-dump-justice-department-turns-64280-pages-claimed-executive-privilege-operation-fast-furious-documents/ |
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Based on the cover letter, it sounds like they were generous in redacting the data.
Cover Letter PDF Rep. Issa statement “When Eric Holder wants to know why he was the first Attorney General held in criminal contempt of Congress, he can read the judge’s order that compelled the production of 64,280 pages that he and President Obama illegitimately and illegally withheld from Congress. Since these pages still do not represent the entire universe of the documents the House of Representatives is seeking related to the Justice Department’s cover-up of the botched gun-walking scandal that contributed to the death of a Border Patrol agent, our court case will continue. I am deeply concerned that some redactions to these documents may still be inappropriate and contrary to the judge’s order in the case. This production is nonetheless a victory for the legislative branch, a victory for transparency, and a victory for efforts to check Executive Branch power. As the production is extensive and may contain sensitive information, our investigative staff will be carefully examining the documents turned over last night.” View Quote |
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Can we impeach now? They now have evidence that Holder and 0bama broke the law at the very least by claiming executive privilege over documents that they weren't supposed to. The fact that so many agencies were listed on the cover page also widens the involvement in the operation to other agencies not yet before identified. I also doubt they want all of those documents, probably just a few that they already knew existed but didn't have their hands on or know they exist but are again not included.
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Repub leadership already has said that the will not impeach.
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Originally Posted By Everrest:
Based on the cover letter, it sounds like they were generous in redacting the data. Cover Letter PDF Rep. Issa statement View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Everrest:
Based on the cover letter, it sounds like they were generous in redacting the data. Cover Letter PDF Rep. Issa statement “When Eric Holder wants to know why he was the first Attorney General held in criminal contempt of Congress, he can read the judge’s order that compelled the production of 64,280 pages that he and President Obama illegitimately and illegally withheld from Congress. Since these pages still do not represent the entire universe of the documents the House of Representatives is seeking related to the Justice Department’s cover-up of the botched gun-walking scandal that contributed to the death of a Border Patrol agent, our court case will continue. I am deeply concerned that some redactions to these documents may still be inappropriate and contrary to the judge’s order in the case. This production is nonetheless a victory for the legislative branch, a victory for transparency, and a victory for efforts to check Executive Branch power. As the production is extensive and may contain sensitive information, our investigative staff will be carefully examining the documents turned over last night.” Just like last time. I seem to recall Issa asking them something like "why didn't you just give us blank paper and save the toner?" |
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Watching and waiting for this last set of documents to be reviewed. I wonder who the proof reader for Holder's camp is.
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Originally Posted By Tacberry:
Watching and waiting for this last set of documents to be reviewed. I wonder who the proof reader for Holder's camp is. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Tacberry:
Watching and waiting for this last set of documents to be reviewed. I wonder who the proof reader for Holder's camp is. The proof reader is DOJ chief council Marks A-Lot , I've seen his work before. He is a very dark figure. David Codrea: Document dump shows State had a hand in 'Fast and Furious' redactions With the media and engaged citizens focused on critical mid-term elections, the Department of Justice turned over 64,000 pages of documents related to Operation Fast and Furious that it had previously claimed executive privilege for, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Responsibility announced Tuesday. Per the committee release, the production of the documents, compelled by court order, is further evidence the administration had no legitimate reasons for withholding them in the first place consistent with the purposes behind executive privilege, and their withholding was part of a continued effort to avoid disclosures “that embarrass or otherwise implicate senior Obama Administration officials.” |
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Originally Posted By Everrest:
The proof reader is DOJ chief council Marks A-Lot , I've seen his work before. He is a very dark figure. David Codrea: Document dump shows State had a hand in 'Fast and Furious' redactions More at link. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Everrest:
Originally Posted By Tacberry:
Watching and waiting for this last set of documents to be reviewed. I wonder who the proof reader for Holder's camp is. The proof reader is DOJ chief council Marks A-Lot , I've seen his work before. He is a very dark figure. David Codrea: Document dump shows State had a hand in 'Fast and Furious' redactions With the media and engaged citizens focused on critical mid-term elections, the Department of Justice turned over 64,000 pages of documents related to Operation Fast and Furious that it had previously claimed executive privilege for, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Responsibility announced Tuesday. Per the committee release, the production of the documents, compelled by court order, is further evidence the administration had no legitimate reasons for withholding them in the first place consistent with the purposes behind executive privilege, and their withholding was part of a continued effort to avoid disclosures “that embarrass or otherwise implicate senior Obama Administration officials.” Oh, I think they had a 'legitimate' reason...avoiding prison. |
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Originally Posted By Strykewolf:
Oh, I think they had a 'legitimate' reason...avoiding prison. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Strykewolf:
Originally Posted By Everrest:
Originally Posted By Tacberry:
Watching and waiting for this last set of documents to be reviewed. I wonder who the proof reader for Holder's camp is. The proof reader is DOJ chief council Marks A-Lot , I've seen his work before. He is a very dark figure. David Codrea: Document dump shows State had a hand in 'Fast and Furious' redactions With the media and engaged citizens focused on critical mid-term elections, the Department of Justice turned over 64,000 pages of documents related to Operation Fast and Furious that it had previously claimed executive privilege for, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Responsibility announced Tuesday. Per the committee release, the production of the documents, compelled by court order, is further evidence the administration had no legitimate reasons for withholding them in the first place consistent with the purposes behind executive privilege, and their withholding was part of a continued effort to avoid disclosures “that embarrass or otherwise implicate senior Obama Administration officials.” Oh, I think they had a 'legitimate' reason...avoiding prison. +EDIT All legitimacy ended the day they allowed the first straw buy. They new then that with no doubt that it would be used to murder making them a part of the murder and now we are 2600 guns and 300+ murders later. And that does not even bring into account the reason, TREASON. No there is nothing legitimate about the thugs running the White House. |
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KSPR(CNN): Fast and Furious: A 65,000-page document dump
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The documents weren't publicly released. But CNN reviewed a handful of the documents, which portray Holder frustrated as he tries to manage a controversy spiraling out of his control. In one April 2011 email exchange, he cautions aides against moving too forcefully to help block an Issa subpoena of a gun dealer who was helping law enforcement in an investigation. Holder lashed out: "Issa and his idiot cronies never gave a damn about this when all that was happening was that thousands of Mexicans were being killed with guns from our country. All they want to do -- in reality -- is cripple ATF and suck up to the gun lobby. Politics at its worst." The remark was a harbinger of a worsening relationship between Holder and Issa, which became public in bitter confrontations during congressional hearings. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Everrest:
KSPR(CNN): Fast and Furious: A 65,000-page document dump More at link. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Everrest:
KSPR(CNN): Fast and Furious: A 65,000-page document dump ...snip....
The documents weren't publicly released. But CNN reviewed a handful of the documents, which portray Holder frustrated as he tries to manage a controversy spiraling out of his control. In one April 2011 email exchange, he cautions aides against moving too forcefully to help block an Issa subpoena of a gun dealer who was helping law enforcement in an investigation. Holder lashed out: "Issa and his idiot cronies never gave a damn about this when all that was happening was that thousands of Mexicans were being killed with guns from our country. All they want to do -- in reality -- is cripple ATF and suck up to the gun lobby. Politics at its worst." The remark was a harbinger of a worsening relationship between Holder and Issa, which became public in bitter confrontations during congressional hearings. |
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And the penalty for treason is.....
Originally Posted By hugh1:
I have seen nothing that would contradict the following statement, While there may have been a few guns that went to Mexican drug cartels via other means (undetected straw buys) most were Direct Government Sales and some through F&F, but almost all were under Obama admin's control and Holder knows it. Yes it is either extreme incompetence or treason, given that they seem to be very good at covering it up, and without the death of Brian Terry we might have never known, I lean toward treason. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By hugh1:
Originally Posted By Everrest:
KSPR(CNN): Fast and Furious: A 65,000-page document dump ...snip....
The documents weren't publicly released. But CNN reviewed a handful of the documents, which portray Holder frustrated as he tries to manage a controversy spiraling out of his control. In one April 2011 email exchange, he cautions aides against moving too forcefully to help block an Issa subpoena of a gun dealer who was helping law enforcement in an investigation. Holder lashed out: "Issa and his idiot cronies never gave a damn about this when all that was happening was that thousands of Mexicans were being killed with guns from our country. All they want to do -- in reality -- is cripple ATF and suck up to the gun lobby. Politics at its worst." The remark was a harbinger of a worsening relationship between Holder and Issa, which became public in bitter confrontations during congressional hearings. |
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Originally Posted By Beach:
And the penalty for treason is..... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Beach:
And the penalty for treason is..... Originally Posted By hugh1:
Originally Posted By Everrest:
KSPR(CNN): Fast and Furious: A 65,000-page document dump ...snip....
The documents weren't publicly released. But CNN reviewed a handful of the documents, which portray Holder frustrated as he tries to manage a controversy spiraling out of his control. In one April 2011 email exchange, he cautions aides against moving too forcefully to help block an Issa subpoena of a gun dealer who was helping law enforcement in an investigation. Holder lashed out: "Issa and his idiot cronies never gave a damn about this when all that was happening was that thousands of Mexicans were being killed with guns from our country. All they want to do -- in reality -- is cripple ATF and suck up to the gun lobby. Politics at its worst." The remark was a harbinger of a worsening relationship between Holder and Issa, which became public in bitter confrontations during congressional hearings. |
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lunatpp.org BREAKING NEWS: Reese Sentence
In a stunning blow to the federal government’s case against the Reese family in the New Deal case, Judge Robert Brack imposed the following sentence:
Time Served 3 years supervised release $100 fine per count of conviction Random drug testing DNA samples Refrain from alcohol use or possession of alcohol Random home/vehicle search No gun ownership He informed them they have the right to appeal his sentence. The government had originally sought the maximum sentence of five years each for Rick and Terri Reese, plus an additional few years for testifying in their own defense at trial, which was considered by the government to be “obstruction of justice”. The government conceded they could not seek more than the max of five years. The government also sought to have Ryin Reese received the maximum sentence of five years. Rick and Ryin served 17 months in prison and were released when Judge Brack ordered a new trial after information came out that the government failed to inform the judge, and hence the jury, that a key witness in the case, Deputy Alan Batts, had been the subject of an investigation concerning allegations of corruption for nearly a decade. Batts was never charged with any crime. Terri Reese served 7 months and was released on bond early to help defense attorneys prepare for trial. Over forty family, friends and supporters packed nearly the entire courtroom gallery to listen to arguments from the prosecution on why the Reeses should receive the maximum sentence. Defense attorneys argued to have the charges reduced to a misdemeanor claiming that Congress wrote statutes that apply to FFLs, Federal Firearms Licensees, making violations of Form 4473 a misdemeanor. The government claimed they have the option to prosecute under either felony or misdemeanor statutes. Curiously, AUSA Maria Armijo repeated a number of times during the proceedings that the government was not on trial today and that the government should not be punished – presumably by having the judge impose a lower sentence than the maximum penalty. Nothing was found in the pleadings reviewed that would explain why she might think the government was on trial today. Ultimately, Judge Brack agreed with the prosecution that it is the prosecutor’s option on whether to charge FFLs under either a felony statute or a misdemeanor statute. He was not swayed by the novel defense arguments that defendants have the right to choose which statutes to be sentenced under. .....Big Snip......... Not including the firearms purchased in the undercover sting, the Reese case involved approximately 35 firearms – all purchased by straw purchaser Penny Torres and her brother. Torres admitted on the witness stand that the Reeses had no knowledge they were straw purchasing on behalf of cartel member Jose Roman. The government claimed the Reeses are the ones to blame for the deaths in Mexico. View Quote |
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"Bureau of Alcohol, Snuff, Firearms and Explosives" Google translator. @Everrest
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From the article above.....
Now that sentencing is over, if there are no more appeals or motions in the criminal case, the government will start the scheduling process in the civil case. Should the government win the civil forfeiture case, each law enforcement agency involved will divvy up the proceeds of the Reese’s property and one or more individual law enforcement officers will receive individual bonuses. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By miker84:
From the article above..... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By miker84:
From the article above..... Now that sentencing is over, if there are no more appeals or motions in the criminal case, the government will start the scheduling process in the civil case. Should the government win the civil forfeiture case, each law enforcement agency involved will divvy up the proceeds of the Reese’s property and one or more individual law enforcement officers will receive individual bonuses. |
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