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Posted: 1/9/2011 10:04:01 PM EDT
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don't know about purpose built self defense canes
I believe Rex Applegate wrote a little about defensive cane use and the place I worked used to rent a bunch of diffrent gun/hunting /self defense videos we had this one but i never watched it Martial Cane Concepts and found this while googling up a link to that DVD http://americancaneselfdefense.com/ |
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Posted: 1/9/2011 10:07:04 PM EDT
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They work great, like any stick or club.
The problem is trying to look nonchalant carrying one if you're not obviously old or disabled. |
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Posted: 1/9/2011 10:10:52 PM EDT
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I would move to a free state before I would carry around a cane for SD.
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Posted: 1/9/2011 10:25:31 PM EDT
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In the real old days it was fashionable to carry a cane, but today, I am not sure what law you are violating.
I would move to a free state before I would carry around a cane for SD. |
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Posted: 1/9/2011 10:31:03 PM EDT
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In the real old days it was fashionable to carry a cane, but today, I am not sure what law you are violating.I would move to a free state before I would carry around a cane for SD. Just drag your leg in public  Mine ache enough to walk with one
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Posted: 1/9/2011 10:32:33 PM EDT
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If you want to know how the disarmed, poor and oppressed defend themselves, look no further than the Irish.
O'Doyle Rules! Doyle family stick fighting A website with more information: John Whurley's site You could look at more modern/battle tested things like Escrima, but the relatively undocumented, unstandardized Irish stuff is the closest thing I know that uses what could be considered a walking stick. |
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Posted: 1/9/2011 10:37:10 PM EDT
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In the real old days it was fashionable to carry a cane, but today, I am not sure what law you are violating.I would move to a free state before I would carry around a cane for SD. Just drag your leg in public Mine ache enough to walk with oneHere is utlitmate survival/walking stick: SURVIVAL STAFF by Crawford Handmade Knives, LLC. Good stuff. |
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Posted: 1/9/2011 10:39:37 PM EDT
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He wore a cane & derby hat...
They called him Bat... Bat Masterson.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBn9Um4Ze7Y&list=SL |
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Posted: 1/9/2011 10:44:16 PM EDT
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I know of one Dojo that spent a lot of time developing cane use for people that may actually need one to walk. Perhaps they know of someone closer to you that can teach the use.
Most of it was developed from hakkoryu Jujutsu. Zanshin Goshin Dojo in Sierra Madre, CA 626-351-8981 http://www.aikidojournal.com/dojodetails?id=1529 . |
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Posted: 1/9/2011 11:00:29 PM EDT
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I have a heavy duty extra long adjustment I dropped 4 bills for.
IT is perfect in the handle for sweeping hooks, it is an extra large arch. Nothing is more pitiful than seeing a large man with a pansy ass puss cane bowing out. |
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Posted: 1/9/2011 11:08:56 PM EDT
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If you are racked up so bad that you need a cane, there's no way that you can defend yourself with one. Not against a determined attacker. Using a cane as a fashion accessory is another matter. Are swords concealed in canes still on the market?
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Posted: 1/9/2011 11:09:40 PM EDT
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I can speak on this a bit as I've walked with canes for more than a few years now. If you have a background with martial arts particularly stick fighting, staff fighting, or fighting with a bo its second nature. Despite that a walking stick or cane much like most items nearby can be fashioned into a quickly deployed weapon for self defense. For canes go with a knob top handle, avoid the metal canes as with a fair amount of force you can bend them, this speaks to the amount of money you will spend on the cane and not the bearing weight of the cane. Stronger metals = stronger canes. Cheap canes you buy at CVS for $29.99 = poking tool. Generally if I am unsure of the environment I am going into I'll take a wooden knob cane similar to http://www.fashionablecanes.com/80701.html it will allow me to parry, block, strike, jab and offset most attackers within a 6” - 5' range. The Irish stick fighting video linked above is a good starter for how you would defend with a cane. Things to note are that:
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Posted: 1/9/2011 11:10:54 PM EDT
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Itd be pretty sweet if you found a cop dumb enough to believe you used an asp as a collapsible walking stick
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Posted: 1/9/2011 11:15:15 PM EDT
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a walking stick works good for keeping dogs away, I had to wack a dog on the head while trying to check my mail box and make sure to never turn your back on an aggressive dog
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Posted: 1/9/2011 11:37:26 PM EDT
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I still walk with a slight limp, I have tendon damage in one foot and a bad ankle with a double dose of fucked up knees.
So being sub 40 now and one really bad days I get my cane back form my mother who was using it for years. I also have an ash wood hiking stick I use in the snow and ice. |
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Posted: 1/9/2011 11:47:06 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: In the real old days it was fashionable to carry a cane, but today, I am not sure what law you are violating.I would move to a free state before I would carry around a cane for SD. How far back are we talking?  |
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Posted: 1/10/2011 1:57:18 AM EDT
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We drilled in how to use a cane in self defense yesterday in my Jiu-Jitsu class –– something we do fairly often. They can be used very effectively - not as effective as a gun or a knife, but better than nothing and I can't think of any place that bans canes.
Given the state of my 40+ year old knees, I'll probably need a cane soon anyway. |
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Posted: 1/10/2011 2:11:17 AM EDT
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About 15 years ago I saw an old man use a cane for SD in Philly.
My shipmate saw 2 teenagers trying to rob an old guy a distance away. We headed toward him, but by the time we arrived it was all over. 1 of the 2 had taken off the other was cowering in a store front under a rain of blows. The shopowner called the cops and they carted the little thug off. When the 2 of us offered our statements, the cop told us it wasn't the first time "Larry the cane' had defended himself. The cop said he was a WW2 Pacific Marine with a history of taking care of himself. Now that I think of it, the old guy is either dead or well into his mid 80s. Wonder how he'd make out now? Maybe he got smart and is now a CCW. Who knows? A cane is a viable SD weapon. |
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Posted: 1/10/2011 2:15:30 AM EDT
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a walking stick works good for keeping dogs away, I had to wack a dog on the head while trying to check my mail box and make sure to never turn your back on an aggressive dog We have one in our neighborhood that rushes joggers and people walking their dogs. 60-80 pounds and looks something like a hyena. It circled my wife and she used some Fox on it to no affect (she says she hit it, maybe). Anyway, I have a red oak cane I carved while out on an exercise at Ft. Bragg. I've used it before on mutts with good results. This one won't approach me when I pass its house, with or without my stick. Jack London addresses dogs and sticks in The Call of the Wild. He called it "the law of the club." |
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Posted: 1/10/2011 2:22:01 AM EDT
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If you are racked up so bad that you need a cane, there's no way that you can defend yourself with one. Not against a determined attacker. Using a cane as a fashion accessory is another matter. Are swords concealed in canes still on the market? Seriously? Do you have any idea how many others thought the same thing right up to the point where an old man gave them an ass whipping? Yes they are. They are also illegal in a good many places. |
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Posted: 1/10/2011 3:22:43 AM EDT
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]Seriously? Do you have any idea how many others thought the same thing right up to the point where an old man gave them an ass whipping?[/span] [span style='color: blue;']Yes they are. They are also illegal in a good many places.[/span] Most people that get cracked up alongside the head a couple of times tend to change their minds about wanting to rob someone. There are easier pickin's out there. |
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Posted: 1/10/2011 3:45:50 AM EDT
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Canes make a great weapon if you know how to properly use them.
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Posted: 1/10/2011 3:50:29 AM EDT
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Considered picking up one of the Irish Blackthorn walking sticks from Cold Steel for my dad....yes, he's old - and sometimes walks with a limp.
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Posted: 1/10/2011 3:54:00 AM EDT
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Canes make a great weapon if you know how to properly use them. Nine from the sky tends to knock a bit of sense into a recaltricent young thug.
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Posted: 1/10/2011 3:58:09 AM EDT
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Get both.
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Posted: 1/10/2011 4:04:12 AM EDT
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I don't know how much they charge for it. It's made of aluminum and very stout.
http://www.tdiohio.com/cane.html They also teach a course in using it. |
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Posted: 1/10/2011 4:05:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/10/2011 4:10:38 AM EDT
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This thread is of interest to me....bad knees run in the family.
Can you carry a cane (wooden) onto an aircraft (through TSA) or would they hassle someone about it? AFARR |
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Posted: 1/10/2011 4:18:04 AM EDT
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Watch "Blind Fury"
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Posted: 1/10/2011 4:59:49 AM EDT
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Another link: http://www.canemasters.com/
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Posted: 1/10/2011 5:01:59 AM EDT
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If you are racked up so bad that you need a cane, there's no way that you can defend yourself with one. Not against a determined attacker. Using a cane as a fashion accessory is another matter. Are swords concealed in canes still on the market? Seriously? Do you have any idea how many others thought the same thing right up to the point where an old man gave them an ass whipping? Not very many. |
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Posted: 1/10/2011 5:05:16 AM EDT
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This thread is of interest to me....bad knees run in the family. Can you carry a cane (wooden) onto an aircraft (through TSA) or would they hassle someone about it? AFARR You'd probably have to be leaning on it pretty hard to convince em. In for the ufishul answer to this one. |
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Posted: 1/10/2011 5:05:53 AM EDT
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This guy...
 ... thought it worked pretty well.
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Posted: 1/10/2011 5:08:13 AM EDT
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Many years ago I took tae-kwon-do. As part of this I trained with swords in a weapons class.
One day it occurred to me that the blade did not have to be sharp to be effective. I reckoned I could get out of a pool hall in fine style. I believe Cold Steel makes a defensive cane. |
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Posted: 1/10/2011 5:10:42 AM EDT
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I can speak on this a bit as I'vewalked with canes for more than a few years now. If you have abackground with martial arts particularly stick fighting, stafffighting, or fighting with a bo its second nature.
Despite that a walking stick or canemuch like most items nearby can be fashioned into a quickly deployedweapon for self defense.
For canes go with a knob top handle,avoid the metal canes as with a fair amount of force you can bendthem, this speaks to the amount of money you will spend on the caneand not the bearing weight of the cane. Stronger metals = strongercanes. Cheap canes you buy at CVS for $29.99 = poking tool.
Generally if I am unsure of theenvironment I am going into I'll take a wooden knob cane similar tohttp://www.fashionablecanes.com/80701.htmlit will allow me to parry, block, strike, jab and offset mostattackers within a 6” - 5' range.
The Irish stick fighting video linkedabove is a good starter for how you would defend with a cane. Things to note are that:
Poster sounds.................. familiar N_T is that you? |
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Posted: 1/10/2011 5:42:30 AM EDT
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This guy... ... thought it worked pretty well. That was the first thing I thought of when I saw this thread. I'd love to get one of the Hanwei replicas. buk |
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Posted: 1/10/2011 5:43:41 AM EDT
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This thread is of interest to me....bad knees run in the family. Can you carry a cane (wooden) onto an aircraft (through TSA) or would they hassle someone about it? AFARR I would think so, but I imagine a cane would be rough to use for defense on an airplane. Close quarters with lots of people within arms reach. |
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Posted: 1/10/2011 5:44:33 AM EDT
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pimp cane thread?
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Posted: 1/10/2011 6:36:06 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/10/2011 7:04:17 AM EDT
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wish i could grow a wicked handlebar stash like that. |
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Posted: 1/10/2011 7:08:39 AM EDT
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Worked good for old Andy Jackson. Hapkido has some techniques for it too. Canes can be excellent striking tools, blocking tools, and the ones with the curved grip can be used for some wicked joint locks.
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Posted: 1/10/2011 7:15:55 AM EDT
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The good folks at cold steel make them. I've got a few different cold steel knives, like them all :)
Cold Steel Beat Stick Cold Steel Sword Canes |
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Posted: 1/10/2011 7:22:30 AM EDT
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This thread is of interest to me....bad knees run in the family. Can you carry a cane (wooden) onto an aircraft (through TSA) or would they hassle someone about it? AFARR I would think so, but I imagine a cane would be rough to use for defense on an airplane. Close quarters with lots of people within arms reach. Yes, you can carry it on an airplane. I had some problems with a pinched nerve for a while, used a cane for a bit, mainly to help me get up while sitting, but I had a noticeable limp when it was bad. TSA will x-ray to check for swords, guns, etc., but it's perfectly legal to carry it. I doubt you could get a good swing on it in an airplane, but I'm sure you could jab the shit out of some fucker with a box cutter and still maintain some stand off. It's better than throwing rocks, and rocks are pretty hard to find on an airplane. The other plus is once you arrive at your destination, you have your cane, whereas, you may not have your gun or pepper spray. The other thing about canes: FREE RIDES! I had to change planes in Atlanta. I hobbled out to the concourse and was checking the signs, when this huge black woman with a golf cart (airport services) offered me a ride to my gate because I was disabled. I could have walked there myself, but I figured, why aggravate my injury? I got a free ride! |
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Posted: 1/10/2011 7:23:47 AM EDT
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I sometimes have to use a cane because of a bad back. I also use it as a walking stick when hiking. This is what I bought:
 I have enough gray in my hair and beard to make it look not too out of place. And I guarantee that if you get hit with that knob, you aren't going to enjoy the experience. |
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Posted: 1/10/2011 7:24:15 AM EDT
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It's a stick.
Weapons don't come much more old-school than that. |
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Posted: 1/10/2011 7:31:38 AM EDT
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I went the extra step and got a doctor's order for one.
Just in case... |
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Posted: 1/10/2011 7:39:56 AM EDT
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Took me forever when starting to use it to get used to it.
It has been seven years without it on a regular basis and find myselftrying to reach for it. Been 10 without my duty belt and glock and still on way worse days forget it is gone. |
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Posted: 1/10/2011 7:43:18 AM EDT
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Shillelagh
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Posted: 1/10/2011 7:47:30 AM EDT
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I train in Ka-Li. This is stick fighting.
I am a blue belt in BJJ and do fairly well on the ground, but there are guys that don't do well in regular grappling that can beat me in a stick fight. It's pretty weird and you are either good at it or not. Honestly, I normally end up dropping my stick and grabbing the guy adn finishing on the ground. Pipe dreaming, speculating, asking questions on the internet, all find an dandy, but there is no substitute for REALISTIC training on a REGULAR basis. If you weight 280 and are on your couch reading this, you need to get up, and join a BJJ or Ka Li club and train. |
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