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Posted: 12/18/2010 2:45:03 PM EST
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All I know is if they go for sale on Government Auctions, I want one!



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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 2:52:00 PM EST
Might just squeeze into my garage
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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 2:55:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/18/2010 2:56:17 PM EST by tightlockF]
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Might just squeeze into my garage


This won't


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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 3:00:25 PM EST
^ was that pic taken in Twinsburg, OH? I did a pick-up there and that place looks just like it.

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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 3:00:34 PM EST
One was for sale on ebay about 1.5 years ago went for $65k iirc. They are made by yankee assholes, why would anyone want one?
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I drove one of these for a couple years when I was in Ammo Platoon!
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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 3:17:25 PM EST
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/HEMTT_Wrecker_and_Cargo.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Hemtt_iraq.jpg

They certainly look cool and all, but.....why? Is there some engineering or performance feat about which I'm unaware?
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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 3:21:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:
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All I know is if they go for sale on Government Auctions, I want one!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/HEMTT_Wrecker_and_Cargo.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Hemtt_iraq.jpg

They certainly look cool and all, but.....why? Is there some engineering or performance feat about which I'm unaware?


Nah, I just think they look cool.
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YOu haven't napped till you have TC'd a HEMTT for 9 hours in the german rain.

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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 3:22:22 PM EST
I managed to bury one up to the driver's window in Graf many years ago.

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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 3:53:34 PM EST
They also make fine beds


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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 3:58:47 PM EST
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I managed to bury one up to the driver's window in Graf many years ago.

Never double dog dare me to try and make the mud hole.





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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 4:01:13 PM EST
Isnt that second on in your OP a PLS?
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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 4:10:58 PM EST
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Isnt that second on in your OP a PLS?

No, the easy way to distinguish the PLS from similar trucks is the addition of an extra rear drive axle.



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Whatever happens, we have got
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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 4:25:46 PM EST
Not to nit pick, but neither of those are an M977. This thread needs MOAR truck pictures.

The nomenclature for the wrecker is an M984, and the second one is likely an M985 which has the heavier MHC (crane).

I started out driving the M1074 PLS in the ammo section of Service Battery for a self propelled cannon battalion. The M1074 is equipped with the mid-ship crane, whereas the M1075 version does not have the crane. Both have the palletized loading system.





When we switched to MLRS, we got the M985 HEMTT. The only real difference between the M985 and the M977 is the crane. The M977 only has a 4500# crane, whereas the M985 has a 6000# crane to lift heavy pods like the ATACMS.



The M985 also has brackets bolted to the floor of the cargo bed where the feet for the pods sit when loaded.


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Now that I work full time as a firefighter, I'd love to get my hands on the TFFT, which is the HEMTT fire truck. It's my favorite truck AND it's a fire truck. What could be better right?

I hear they aren't very user friendly and the guys don't really like them, but to me they are sexy as hell.


PS... I agree with you though OP... If I ever have the money to do so, I WILL have a HEMTT.
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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 4:28:25 PM EST

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Might just squeeze into my garage


This won't
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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 4:30:06 PM EST
I'll settle for an up-armored Humvee
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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 4:30:48 PM EST
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Isnt that second on in your OP a PLS?


Negative, it is an M1120 Load Handling System HEMTT. Same load handling system the PLS has but on a HEMTT chassis.

PLS would have one more rear axle.


Second truck pictured in the OP does not have the LHS. You can see the crane behind all the stuff. The sides of the cargo bed have been removed.

If you can't see that the truck has all 5 axles and is a PLS, the second most obvious tell tale is the wheels. Only the PLS has the CTIS (central tire inflation system) wheel covers. I don't know if the new A4 HEMTTs have CTIS, but no HEMTT that I've see, including the A4's, have the wheel covers like the M1074/M1075 family of vehicles. The Marine Corp has a new 10x10 truck that looks like a cross between the PLS and HEMTT that does have the wheel covers indicative of the CTIS being on board.
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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 4:42:35 PM EST
The wreckers are pretty good too.



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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 4:45:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Garand_Shooter:
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Isnt that second on in your OP a PLS?


Negative, it is an M1120 Load Handling System HEMTT. Same load handling system the PLS has but on a HEMTT chassis.

PLS would have one more rear axle.


Second truck pictured in the OP does not have the LHS. You can see the crane behind all the stuff. The sides of the cargo bed have been removed.

If you can't see that the truck has all 5 axles and is a PLS, the second most obvious tell tale is the wheels. Only the PLS has the CTIS (central tire inflation system) wheel covers. I don't know if the new A4 HEMTTs have CTIS, but no HEMTT that I've see, including the A4's, have the wheel covers like the M1074/M1075 family of vehicles. The Marine Corp has a new 10x10 truck that looks like a cross between the PLS and HEMTT that does have the wheel covers indicative of the CTIS being on board.

Ahh your right, I didn't look close enough.


Sorry guys.... I know just enough about these to get myself to looking like a dumbass.

I do however want to touch my junk at a rapid pace around any of these platforms, as I find them sexy
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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 4:51:38 PM EST
I'd rather have one of these
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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 4:57:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By hkx3:
Originally Posted By Garand_Shooter:
Originally Posted By 911brad:
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Isnt that second on in your OP a PLS?


Negative, it is an M1120 Load Handling System HEMTT. Same load handling system the PLS has but on a HEMTT chassis.

PLS would have one more rear axle.


Second truck pictured in the OP does not have the LHS. You can see the crane behind all the stuff. The sides of the cargo bed have been removed.

If you can't see that the truck has all 5 axles and is a PLS, the second most obvious tell tale is the wheels. Only the PLS has the CTIS (central tire inflation system) wheel covers. I don't know if the new A4 HEMTTs have CTIS, but no HEMTT that I've see, including the A4's, have the wheel covers like the M1074/M1075 family of vehicles. The Marine Corp has a new 10x10 truck that looks like a cross between the PLS and HEMTT that does have the wheel covers indicative of the CTIS being on board.

Ahh your right, I didn't look close enough.


Sorry guys.... I know just enough about these to get myself to looking like a dumbass.

I do however want to touch my junk at a rapid pace around any of these platforms, as I find them sexy


No worries brother, that's why there are always a million ARCOM experts on everything, right?!

If you get one and need drivers training, I'll be there to help. I think I've even got an old TM 9-2320-279-10 laying around somewhere. What kind of nerd memorizes the TM number from a truck he hasn't even touched for nearly 6 years... ?
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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 4:59:18 PM EST
I used to work for a company (Simula, now acquired by BAe Systems) that made armor kits for the HET, HEMMT, PLS, the up-armored HMMWV, and the civilian tractor-trailer (can't remember its military designation). Every one of them went straight to Dover for a flight to the Middle East.
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So there is a PLS with a crane built in that can still drop flat racks? Never knew that wish we had them instead of having to use a cargo HEMMT to download LHS's(dropping jersy barriers in Iraq).

The LHS and PLS(havent got to drive one yet ) Are great platforms. Versatile as hell. Rugged as hell. Just pray you never lose power steering.

The PLS above is now on my wish list for SHTF vehicle if I ever have the money get one w/ trailer and a dozen flat racks.
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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 5:03:46 PM EST
Wonder how hard it would be to street legal one...
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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 5:19:26 PM EST
Loved my M985, hated backing the damn thing up when hauling an M989 trailer; those things were a bitch!
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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 5:21:05 PM EST


We used to use the tires as kind of a hammock; just lay with your butt between the two tires.
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So there is a PLS with a crane built in that can still drop flat racks? Never knew that wish we had them instead of having to use a cargo HEMMT to download LHS's(dropping jersy barriers in Iraq).

The LHS and PLS(havent got to drive one yet ) Are great platforms. Versatile as hell. Rugged as hell. Just pray you never lose power steering.

The PLS above is now on my wish list for SHTF vehicle if I ever have the money get one w/ trailer and a dozen flat racks.



It always did, and still always does, look funny to me when I see a PLS that doesn't have the crane and couldn't imagine using one that didn't. The location of the crane controls right at mid-ships under the crane was a bit awkward and we almost always used the remote controls when we set up ammo supply points in the field like the one pictured above. We could have done everything with HEMTT's, but it was really convenient to use the LHS. At the ASP we'd drop the rack and let the civilian guys load all the powder and rounds on the rack while it was on the ground and pull it up. In the field we'd just use the crane to put stuff onto a battery ammo PLS's that came through, or some times directly into the M548's

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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 5:46:19 PM EST
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We used to use the tires as kind of a hammock; just lay with your butt between the two tires.


I always liked sleeping under the stars on the large flat area on the back of the HEMAT trailers. It's a great place to carry stuff, except it gets dusty in a hurry and we always had to throw a tarp or poncho over any personal gear.


Here's what our guys did between the tires of a HEMTT!



This thread is fun. I get to pull out a lot of old fun Army pictures from back in the day.


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You think that's cool.. Check this shit out!
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<a href="http://img812.imageshack.us/i/hemtgunlargekc7.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/8872/hemtgunlargekc7.jpg</a>



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You think that's cool.. Check this shit out!
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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 6:12:52 PM EST
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<a href="http://img812.imageshack.us/i/hemtgunlargekc7.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/8872/hemtgunlargekc7.jpg</a>



http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab302/MP0117/9s7x8o.jpg



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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 7:19:08 PM EST
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This won't
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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 7:39:26 PM EST
They're great as long as you're not on wet hardball....then a HEMTT will swap ends soooo fast,you won't really know what's going on. EXTREAMELY easy to lock up.

On the civilian side....good luck with the Silver 92...you'll need it. Detroit Diesel doesn't like supporting those 2strokers anymore. They're good for spinning bearings,and blowing head gaskets.


Yes,they can be fun to drive once getting off pavement....the front/rear winch is a neat option.

Spent lots of time driving an M978,slept between the rails atop the tank.
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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 7:41:55 PM EST
When I was in Korea, one of the girls in the 3-5 platoon rolled one of those over. They said that, had the TC actually been in the truck, he would have died due to all the mud that rolled into the passenger window.
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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 7:46:35 PM EST
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Damn...


Awesome but they need to make it downloadable.
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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 7:51:37 PM EST
Originally Posted By Kitulu:
When I was in Korea, one of the girls in the 3-5 platoon rolled one of those over. They said that, had the TC actually been in the truck, he would have died due to all the mud that rolled into the passenger window.
Think the DoT will treat HEMTTs like GOERS....as in none will be allowed surplus. Been seeing alot of Silver 92s over on ebaymotors/military.

Silver 92s were junk,basically Detroit's last gasp with the 2 strokers.....thank GOD for Roger Penske/Series 60.

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Link Posted: 12/18/2010 7:54:02 PM EST
They are fun to drive...I do like the LHS/PLS though, that skid makes loading an unloading real easy...........
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