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Posted: 9/26/2010 8:42:21 AM EDT
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I'll reserve my judgment until I hear arsenals take on it. You never know what sort of tricks they could have pulled to get him to sign it.
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Posted: 9/26/2010 8:42:40 AM EDT
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I just bought a nice SLR 95 the other day.
What should I do with that now? |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 8:43:45 AM EDT
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I just bought a nice SLR 95 the other day. What should I do with that now? Ship it to me for proper disposal. |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 8:44:58 AM EDT
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Quoted: I just bought a nice SLR 95 the other day. What should I do with that now? I'll take care of that commie crap. I'll take care of it real good.  |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 8:46:22 AM EDT
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Traitors.
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Posted: 9/26/2010 8:47:38 AM EDT
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So does the NRA
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Posted: 9/26/2010 8:47:59 AM EDT
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a biz owner doesnt get "tricked" into supporting someone. I hear that he is a "smart guy" and that he needed to protect his ASSets. so does this guy or anyone really believe that backing an anti gunner is going to protect their gun biz? anyone that even considers that as a possibility is not as smart as they or others think they are.
you fuck the devil, your the devil's BITCH. bottom line is this. make a purchase from Arsenal inc. support Harry's spot in the drivers seat. plain and simple. |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 8:49:21 AM EDT
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So does the NRA but the NRA isn't a corporation with other factors involved |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 8:50:22 AM EDT
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IMHO, Aresnal needs to know how we feel about this.
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Posted: 9/26/2010 8:51:02 AM EDT
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So does the NRA but the NRA isn't a corporation with other factors involved what does that mean exactly? |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 8:52:02 AM EDT
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So does the NRA but the NRA isn't a corporation with other factors involved what does that mean exactly? taxes, cap & trade taxes, healthcare, etc |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 8:52:17 AM EDT
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"The issue is Sharron has no experience on the national level, there is no free lunch as they say, it takes time to build stature and influence in the US Congress," said JOHN FARAHI CEO of the Monarch ##### Resorts. Please someone inform this douchnozzle that our commander in thief has no experience where he is also. |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 8:53:24 AM EDT
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what's the deal with censoring the word "casino"?
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Posted: 9/26/2010 8:54:09 AM EDT
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So does the NRA but the NRA isn't a corporation with other factors involved what does that mean exactly? taxes, cap & trade taxes, healthcare, etc yes but if you boycott every buisness that supports the Dems you would have nothing to buy. I am assuming HR supports gun rights? |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 8:54:49 AM EDT
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I told my cousin in N. Carolina that the NRA endorsed Reid and he could hardly believe it....the NRA endorsing the Liberal leader of the Senate. I sort of enjoyed making it difficult for him to generalize and bash the NRA.
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Posted: 9/26/2010 9:00:05 AM EDT
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So does the NRA Yes, and they do so at their own peril. I and millions of other NRA members are going to do our best to "tea bag" these motherfuckers next time around... |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 9:00:21 AM EDT
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Last I heard they didn't support him (this time).
Fox News They have in the past. I believe it was pressure from members who stopped it this time. How anybody can believe that Reid supports gun rights is intellectually disabled. Though it looks like they did contribute to his campaign. "Mr. Reid’s campaign sought to put the best face on the decision, noting that the group has donated $4,950 to Mr. Reid’s campaign..." Link |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 9:01:22 AM EDT
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i paid my NRA dues a year and a half ago... no idea that they were going to back reid at the time... oh and it was less than 40 bucks...
someone buys something from Arsenal Inc. NOW, they are fully aware of the situation and dumping hundreds of dollars into the till... that is the EASY TO SEE difference... but if you want to defend apathy... keep it up. it just aint get'n ya any closer to the campfire. |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 9:07:23 AM EDT
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After his vote to confirm Sonya Sotomayor to the US Supreme Court I believe the NRA backed off of endorsing him.
Any business that would support this statist deserves no support whatsoever. |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 9:10:36 AM EDT
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Well this is good to know, as I'm looking to buy my first AK. I was planning on an Arsenal because the local gun shop guys say they make quality rifles.
So, what would be the best choice for an AK? |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 9:13:02 AM EDT
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Well this is good to know, as I'm looking to buy my first AK. I was planning on an Arsenal because the local gun shop guys say they make quality rifles. So, what would be the best choice for an AK? Get a chinese, some of the bulgarians/hungarians are nice also. |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 9:16:35 AM EDT
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If true, the best way to deal with it is a politely worded, professional letter recongizing his right to support whomever he wishes, and equally, your right not to purchase his shit.
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Posted: 9/26/2010 9:17:51 AM EDT
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Quoted: So does the NRA No they don't. ETA: Statement From NRA-PVF Chairman Chris W. Cox On The 2010 Nevada U.S. Senate Race Friday, August 27, 2010 In the coming days and weeks, the NRA Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF) will be announcing endorsements and candidate ratings in hundreds of federal races, as well as thousands of state legislative races. Unless these announcements are required by the timing of primary or special elections, the NRA-PVF generally does not issue endorsements while important legislative business is pending. The NRA-PVF also operates under a long-standing policy that gives preference to incumbent candidates who have voted with the NRA on key issues, which is explained in more detail here. The U.S. Senate recently considered a number of issues important to NRA members, including the confirmation of Elena Kagan to the Supreme Court. Out of respect for the confirmation process, the NRA did not announce its position on Ms. Kagan's confirmation until the conclusion of her testimony before the Senate Judiciary committee. Her evasive testimony exacerbated grave concerns we had about her long-standing hostility towards the Second Amendment. As a result, the NRA strongly opposed her confirmation and made it clear at the time that we would be scoring this important vote. The vote on Elena Kagan's confirmation to the Court, along with the previous year's confirmation vote on Sonia Sotomayor, are critical for the future of the Second Amendment. After careful consideration, the NRA-PVF announced today that it will not be endorsing Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid for re-election in the 2010 U.S. Senate race in Nevada. NRA members and other interested parties are encouraged to visit www.NRAPVF.org for more information as Election Day draws near. |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 9:18:27 AM EDT
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I would also add my next purchase was going to be a SGL 21. That will no longer be a consideration.
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Posted: 9/26/2010 9:20:08 AM EDT
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It's called crony capitalism. All of the companies are getting some sort of government payback. These are the last stages before collapse.
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Posted: 9/26/2010 9:24:20 AM EDT
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So does the NRA No they don't. ETA: Statement From NRA-PVF Chairman Chris W. Cox On The 2010 Nevada U.S. Senate Race
Friday, August 27, 2010
In the coming days and weeks, the NRA Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF) will be announcing endorsements and candidate ratings in hundreds of federal races, as well as thousands of state legislative races. Unless these announcements are required by the timing of primary or special elections, the NRA-PVF generally does not issue endorsements while important legislative business is pending. The NRA-PVF also operates under a long-standing policy that gives preference to incumbent candidates who have voted with the NRA on key issues, which is explained in more detail here. The U.S. Senate recently considered a number of issues important to NRA members, including the confirmation of Elena Kagan to the Supreme Court. Out of respect for the confirmation process, the NRA did not announce its position on Ms. Kagan's confirmation until the conclusion of her testimony before the Senate Judiciary committee. Her evasive testimony exacerbated grave concerns we had about her long-standing hostility towards the Second Amendment. As a result, the NRA strongly opposed her confirmation and made it clear at the time that we would be scoring this important vote.
The vote on Elena Kagan's confirmation to the Court, along with the previous year's confirmation vote on Sonia Sotomayor, are critical for the future of the Second Amendment. After careful consideration, the NRA-PVF announced today that it will not be endorsing Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid for re-election in the 2010 U.S. Senate race in Nevada.
NRA members and other interested parties are encouraged to visit www.NRAPVF.org for more information as Election Day draws near.
lots of double talk .But i am glad they changed their position Talk about bringing out big guns. Sen Harry Reid, D-Nev., got National Rifle Association leader Wayne LaPierre to speak about Reid's supp Reid is in dire straits, electorally speaking, and needs all the help he can get lining up votes on the conservative side of the spectrum. "He is a true champion of the Second Amendment back in Washington, DC," LaPierre said of Reid at a dedication for a new shooting range |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 9:29:10 AM EDT
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I'm not going to jump on the hate Arsenal bandwagon without more information. That being said I've always felt their products are overpriced and overrated.
I have a 107CR, and while it's a good gun, the finish started coming off the first time I cleaned it. One cleaning and I could see bare receiver in parts. It was as if they used water colors to finish the gun. That and there was visible rust underneath the finish. That shouldn't happen on a $1000 gun. Ok, I take back my earlier statement, Arsenal does kind of suck. While we're on the topic, since when did AKs become more expensive than ARs? |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 9:30:15 AM EDT
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To hell with 'em.
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Posted: 9/26/2010 9:32:53 AM EDT
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I'm not going to jump on the hate Arsenal bandwagon without more information. That being said I've always felt their products are overpriced and overrated. I have a 107CR, and while it's a good gun, the finish started coming off the first time I cleaned it. One cleaning and I could see bare receiver in parts. It was as if they used water colors to finish the gun. That and there was visible rust underneath the finish. That shouldn't happen on a $1000 gun. Ok, I take back my earlier statement, Arsenal does kind of suck. While we're on the topic, since when did AKs become more expensive than ARs? well they arent more expensive $650 for a SGL 21 unless you are talking milled reciever . I kind of agree about the bandwagon thing , But i can't see a good reason to support the ANTI GUNNER ried |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 9:36:37 AM EDT
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Well I just called and left a polite message letting them know why I won't be purchasing a Saiga 12 anymore. I left my contact info but I doubt I will hear anything back.
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Posted: 9/26/2010 9:41:04 AM EDT
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If Reid is voted out of office, who replaces him as Senate Majority Leader? Chuck Schumer? Is that better or worse for gun owners?
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Posted: 9/26/2010 9:45:19 AM EDT
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If Reid is voted out of office, who replaces him as Senate Majority Leader? Chuck Schumer? Is that better or worse for gun owners? Are you saying we should support the lesser of two evils based on what "might" happen? Or are you saying that the "devil you know is better than the devil you don't?" Because both of those show you are intellectually disabled. And Schumer would be better. The NRA would have no excuse then. |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 9:46:01 AM EDT
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While we're on the topic, since when did AKs become more expensive than ARs? AKs are done. Dead in the water. The glory days are over due to dwindling Com-Bloc inventories, the ATF barrel ban and political pressure (EU induction, non proliferation) on parent factories. As the available supply has dwindled, prices have shot up |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 9:46:40 AM EDT
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Dues money does not go to do this. The dues money is only for the non-profit side of the NRA. The NRA/ILA(lobbying) & NRA/PVF(political contributions) goes to political side of the NRA.
i paid my NRA dues a year and a half ago... no idea that they were going to back reid at the time... oh and it was less than 40 bucks... someone buys something from Arsenal Inc. NOW, they are fully aware of the situation and dumping hundreds of dollars into the till... that is the EASY TO SEE difference... but if you want to defend apathy... keep it up. it just aint get'n ya any closer to the campfire. |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 9:46:45 AM EDT
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If Reid is voted out of office, who replaces him as Senate Majority Leader? Chuck Schumer? Is that better or worse for gun owners? Are you saying we should support the lesser of two evils based on what "might" happen? Or are you saying that the "devil you know is better than the devil you don't?" Because both of those show you are intellectually disabled. And Schumer would be better. The NRA would have no excuse then. LOL. Reid is mostly pro-gun. If he loses and gets replaced by a staunch anti-gunner, then yes that is worse (for gun owners and businesses). if you can't reason that out, then you are plain old disabled. |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 9:48:22 AM EDT
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If the GOP get enough seats, the speaker will go to the highest ranking GOP person, if not, then another Dem.
If Reid is voted out of office, who replaces him as Senate Majority Leader? Chuck Schumer? Is that better or worse for gun owners? |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 9:49:29 AM EDT
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If Reid is voted out of office, who replaces him as Senate Majority Leader? Chuck Schumer? Is that better or worse for gun owners? Are you saying we should support the lesser of two evils based on what "might" happen? Or are you saying that the "devil you know is better than the devil you don't?" Because both of those show you are intellectually disabled. And Schumer would be better. The NRA would have no excuse then.  Schumer... are you kidding me?
Seric is playing chess. You are playing checkers. |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 9:51:15 AM EDT
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If the GOP get enough seats, the speaker will go to the highest ranking GOP person, if not, then another Dem.If Reid is voted out of office, who replaces him as Senate Majority Leader? Chuck Schumer? Is that better or worse for gun owners? Yes exactly, but it's not looking like the GOP will take a majority in the Senate. So, if Reid loses in Nevada, another Dem takes his place as Senate majority Leader, Majority Whip Durbin, or third in seniority Schumer. |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 3:03:33 PM EDT
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Quoted: If Reid is voted out of office, who replaces him as Senate Majority Leader? Chuck Schumer? Is that better or worse for gun owners? Hopefully it will be Mitch McConnell. 
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Posted: 9/26/2010 3:19:29 PM EDT
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No NRA Endorsement for Reid in Nevada Senate RacePublished August 28, 2010 | FoxNews.com
Sen. Harry Reid's support for President Obama's Supreme Court nominees has cost him the endorsement of the National Rifle Association in his re-election bid. The NRA is a force in rural states like Nevada where many voters own guns and hunt. The absence of the NRA's blessing represents a setback that Reid's campaign was quick to address Friday by noting that NRA executive Wayne LaPierre once called him a "true champion of the Second Amendment." Christopher W. Cox, chairman of the NRA's Political Victory Fund, said Friday that the organization strongly opposed the confirmation of Elena Kagan to the Supreme Court, and it had warned lawmakers that the NRA would weigh that vote when it came to its endorsements. "The vote on Elena Kagan's confirmation to the court, along with the previous year's confirmation vote on Sonia Sotomayor, are critical for the future of the Second Amendment," Cox said in a statement. "After careful consideration, the NRA-PVF announced today that it will not be endorsing Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid for re-election in the 2010 U.S. Senate race in Nevada." Cox stopped short of saying whether the group would support Reid's opponent, Republican Sharron Angle, or stay neutral in the race. An NRA spokesman told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that the group would be staying out of the race entirely. The organization did not respond to numerous requests from the Associated Press for comment. The Senate Majority Leader has built a solid relationship with the NRA over the years and often parted ways with many of his Democratic colleagues on gun issues. Last year, Reid voted to permit passengers on Amtrak railroad to transport handguns in their checked baggage. He also voted to prohibit lawsuits against gun manufacturers and dealers for gun-related violence. The National Republican Senatorial Committee was quick to relay news of the NRA's decision. Meanwhile, Reid's campaign manager, Brandon Hall, noted that the NRA has donated to Reid's campaign and not to Angle's during the current election cycle. The group donated $4,950 to the Reid campaign, according to records maintained by the Center for Responsive Politics. |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 3:19:55 PM EDT
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I'm not going to jump on the hate Arsenal bandwagon without more information. That being said I've always felt their products are overpriced and overrated. I have a 107CR, and while it's a good gun, the finish started coming off the first time I cleaned it. One cleaning and I could see bare receiver in parts. It was as if they used water colors to finish the gun. That and there was visible rust underneath the finish. That shouldn't happen on a $1000 gun. Ok, I take back my earlier statement, Arsenal does kind of suck. While we're on the topic, since when did AKs become more expensive than ARs? Why not? It's what ARFCOM does best. The bandwagon/pack mentality around here is stronger than reason and common sense any day of the week. |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 3:48:15 PM EDT
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So does the NRA but the NRA isn't a corporation with other factors involved NRA and its apologists need to quit trying to split that hair / make that excuse. It is no longer enough to try to maintain the pretense that nothing exists outside a narrow purview of 2nd amendment / RKBA. Not when it leads to endorsing politicians that are doing everything else in their power to curtail our freedoms and undermine our way of life and interests. Not when it leads to endorsing an utter douchebag Useful Idiot like Harry Reid. And yeah, I'm a member of the NRA again after a 15yr hiatus. I quit them in disgust after their mishandling of the AWB. They completely blew the opportunity to point out the gross lies of that legislation and educate the general public in the actual facts, nomenclature, agenda, all of it. And I'm still not happy with the organization's efforts in recent months (stuff like Gillibrand and muddying / muscling in for credit on Heller). But it's time to get directly involved in this and so many other ways. The people running things all over are incompetent at best, downright antithetical to my beliefs and this nation, at worst. |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 3:54:22 PM EDT
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I love my SLR95 converted back with Bulgarian parts.
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Posted: 9/26/2010 3:57:46 PM EDT
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It's called crony capitalism. These are the last stages before collapse. . 
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Posted: 9/26/2010 4:01:18 PM EDT
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Fuck Arsenal with a bent rusty knife, they and GM can kiss my ass.
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Posted: 9/26/2010 4:03:07 PM EDT
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if true arsenal just became part of the problem and deserves the zumbo treatment.
IF true. |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 4:04:15 PM EDT
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I can see why Unions and Lawyers and such would support a Democrat,
but WHY would a Businessman/capitalist do so? "Selling them the rope they will hang you with" comes to mind. |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 4:05:44 PM EDT
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Keep an eye out for the next congressional afghan spare parts contract.
I'm really hoping that turd gets flushed but Nevada is San Francisco on meth instead of LSD. |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 4:08:51 PM EDT
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I would say Sen Reid's office has been insturmental in getting Vartan's shipments thru customs in the past as well as being solidly pro-gun.
To quote Chris Rock:"I amy not approve of it but I understand it." |
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Posted: 9/26/2010 4:13:16 PM EDT
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I was going to buy an AK from them, but I'll just go to Krebs and avoid giving money to the O
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