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Posted: 9/9/2010 8:27:00 AM EDT

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Posted: 9/9/2010 8:27:43 AM EDT

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It's all about writing tickets to raise revenue. TT

No it's not .It's about shutting down slum lords.

B.S. It is now policy from the top down, to look for fine revenue. Rush has spent the last few days talking about OSHA inspectors hitting construction and work sites.

No. our town has been doing it for years and for the amount of work and man hours put in to writing one citation for $250 there is no way it generates revenue. But what it does do is protects your property values and keeps certain neighborhoods from turning into slums.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:28:31 AM EDT

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Well, they can go fuck themselves! I don't know what their little game is, but the government isn't getting into MY apartment without a warrant.

They don't need a warrant to inspect your apartment.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:29:06 AM EDT

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It's all about writing tickets to raise revenue. TT

No it's not .It's about shutting down slum lords.

This isn't about slum lords. I'm quite a ways from the slums.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:29:25 AM EDT

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Found a note on my door this morning, as did everyone else in my complex. It seems the City has decided to start going around and looking inside people's apartments for health and safety code violations.

Well, they can go fuck themselves! I don't know what their little game is, but the government isn't getting into MY apartment without a warrant. These assholes can go piss up a rope. Check my apartment for safety violations. They must be getting desperate for money if they think they can just walk into someone's apartment and start issuing tickets for having a stock of magazines too close to the fire place, or too many shoes in front of the door.

[mumbling]Fuckin' bastards go and piss me off before lunch...[/mumbling]

If you rent, it ain't yours. Landlord gave in, you are out of options. Better clean up the pile of feces in the tub...

Law knowledge fail....

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:29:29 AM EDT

[#6]

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Found a note on my door this morning, as did everyone else in my complex. It seems the City has decided to start going around and looking inside people's apartments for health and safety code violations.

Well, they can go fuck themselves! I don't know what their little game is, but the government isn't getting into MY apartment without a warrant. These assholes can go piss up a rope. Check my apartment for safety violations. They must be getting desperate for money if they think they can just walk into someone's apartment and start issuing tickets for having a stock of magazines too close to the fire place, or too many shoes in front of the door.

[mumbling]Fuckin' bastards go and piss me off before lunch...[/mumbling]

If you rent, it ain't yours. Landlord gave in, you are out of options. Better clean up the pile of feces in the tub...

Thats not true at all. He still maintains a residence there.

If it is listed in the contract, the landlord can give 24 hours notice and do a walk through but he cannot do it on behalf of the government.

Yes it is.

If the property management want to walk the city through, they have every right to do so.

Not if the city then prosecutes the renter for any unsafe conditions. Think about this for a minute. A citation is a criminal charge. I cannot circumvent consent or a warrant through an outside entity, they essentially become an employee of the government.

Can the landlord walk through, yes, can he take others through, no.

It is not about the renter it is the Landlord they cannot prosecute the tenant.period.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:29:36 AM EDT

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You'd be surprised at the amount of power safety & code people have... usually more than police have in terms of entering your property and looking at stuff.

This.

Local and state laws vary, of course...but they generally have pretty broad authority.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:29:42 AM EDT

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What did you do to piss off expcustom?

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:31:02 AM EDT

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Found a note on my door this morning, as did everyone else in my complex. It seems the City has decided to start going around and looking inside people's apartments for health and safety code violations.

Well, they can go fuck themselves! I don't know what their little game is, but the government isn't getting into MY apartment without a warrant. These assholes can go piss up a rope. Check my apartment for safety violations. They must be getting desperate for money if they think they can just walk into someone's apartment and start issuing tickets for having a stock of magazines too close to the fire place, or too many shoes in front of the door.

[mumbling]Fuckin' bastards go and piss me off before lunch...[/mumbling]

If you rent, it ain't yours. Landlord gave in, you are out of options. Better clean up the pile of feces in the tub...

BULLLLLLLL-SHIT!

My lease states that this gets to be my residence and that anyone wanting to come in without a warrant has to get my permission first, unless it's a life threatening emergency.

+1

no matter what the "lease" says - if that is your legal occupancy, then you are entitled to all of the rights, priveledges and privacy therein. Reasonable exceptions include situations that might be an endangerment to others - such as utilities or fire risk.

This "inspection" might be under the guise of that above disclaimer - so YMMV and I am not a lawyer.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:31:16 AM EDT

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Steve they are inspecting the building and property not you possesions. And i am pretty sure your elected city council members voted for these inspections. The Code enforcement officer will not fine you for any violations but can fine the Lanlord after many warnings and a long drawn out legal procedure.

A GOVERNMENT ENTITY CAN ONLY GET CONSENT OR PERMISSION FROM A RESIDENT, NOT THE PROPERTY OWNER. WITHOUT PERMISSION OR WARRANT (OR PC AND EXIGENCY), THEY ARE VIOLATING THE FOURTH AMENDMENT PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

If that is the case, Citi Mortgage technically has the deed to my home and can consent to a search for "code violations".

We are all hypothesizing that the OP lives in the slums. I would like to hear from him whether or not he believes he lives in a shithole.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:32:55 AM EDT

[#11]

Have an ammo fort, or primers and smokeless powder in your apartment? Wonder what code would say about that? Not wanting to make you more paranoid or anything....just wondering if it could be an issue for them.

dvo

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:33:24 AM EDT

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You'd be surprised at the amount of power safety & code people have... usually more than police have in terms of entering your property and looking at stuff.

This.

Local and state laws vary, of course...but they generally have pretty broad authority.

I would mention that the meter readers in my town go into people's cellars to read the meters, but I don't want to send anyone fleeing into the woods in their multicam.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:33:36 AM EDT

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You'd be surprised at the amount of power safety & code people have... usually more than police have in terms of entering your property and looking at stuff.

This.

Local and state laws vary, of course...but they generally have pretty broad authority.

MY wife is a code enforcement officer and the local police call her in when they have issues that is not in their jurisdiction. Believe me they can do this it has been taken to the Supreme court and upheld.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:33:42 AM EDT

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I have a feeling there may actually be code violations in OP's apartment. Can we see some pics?

I just don't see the City coming to inspect a apartment unless someone dimed you off.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:34:21 AM EDT

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Found a note on my door this morning, as did everyone else in my complex. It seems the City has decided to start going around and looking inside people's apartments for health and safety code violations.

Well, they can go fuck themselves! I don't know what their little game is, but the government isn't getting into MY apartment without a warrant. These assholes can go piss up a rope. Check my apartment for safety violations. They must be getting desperate for money if they think they can just walk into someone's apartment and start issuing tickets for having a stock of magazines too close to the fire place, or too many shoes in front of the door.

[mumbling]Fuckin' bastards go and piss me off before lunch...[/mumbling]

If you rent, it ain't yours. Landlord gave in, you are out of options. Better clean up the pile of feces in the tub...

BULLLLLLLL-SHIT!

My lease states that this gets to be my residence and that anyone wanting to come in without a warrant has to get my permission first, unless it's a life threatening emergency.

You sure about that? Most leases say that they have to give you 24-48 hours of notice before the property management/landlord/other can legally enter without your permission. Read it again.

NOT a government entity though, that still falls under the fourth amendment. Trust me, I'm a cop and I deal with nosy no good landlords all the time.

Ah, well a cop, then we should shut down the discussion. After all a cop is never wrong, right?

Laws are different from place to place, state to state, never mind what is in the signed contract could allow this to happen.

Federal constitutional law is never different from state to state unless it is more restrictive than the original intent. I.E. a car by federal law (A constitutional decision) is an exigent circumstance on its own, but in Utah, the USC has decided that more exigency than simply the car must exist along with probable cause in order to conduct a warrantless search of a vehicle.

I will ignore your weak and immediate choice to resort to personal insults.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:34:31 AM EDT

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Found a note on my door this morning, as did everyone else in my complex. It seems the City has decided to start going around and looking inside people's apartments for health and safety code violations.

Well, they can go fuck themselves! I don't know what their little game is, but the government isn't getting into MY apartment without a warrant. These assholes can go piss up a rope. Check my apartment for safety violations. They must be getting desperate for money if they think they can just walk into someone's apartment and start issuing tickets for having a stock of magazines too close to the fire place, or too many shoes in front of the door.

[mumbling]Fuckin' bastards go and piss me off before lunch...[/mumbling][/quote
Long Time no type :)
I agree with you in principal however the reality of the situation is if the apt mgmt goes along while illegal not much your going to be able to do to stop it

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:36:03 AM EDT

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Found a note on my door this morning, as did everyone else in my complex. It seems the City has decided to start going around and looking inside people's apartments for health and safety code violations.

Well, they can go fuck themselves! I don't know what their little game is, but the government isn't getting into MY apartment without a warrant. These assholes can go piss up a rope. Check my apartment for safety violations. They must be getting desperate for money if they think they can just walk into someone's apartment and start issuing tickets for having a stock of magazines too close to the fire place, or too many shoes in front of the door.

[mumbling]Fuckin' bastards go and piss me off before lunch...[/mumbling]

If you rent, it ain't yours. Landlord gave in, you are out of options. Better clean up the pile of feces in the tub...

Thats not true at all. He still maintains a residence there.

If it is listed in the contract, the landlord can give 24 hours notice and do a walk through but he cannot do it on behalf of the government.

Yes it is.

If the property management want to walk the city through, they have every right to do so.

Not if the city then prosecutes the renter for any unsafe conditions. Think about this for a minute. A citation is a criminal charge. I cannot circumvent consent or a warrant through an outside entity, they essentially become an employee of the government.

Can the landlord walk through, yes, can he take others through, no.

It is not about the renter it is the Landlord they cannot prosecute the tenant.period.

They can if he creates the unsafe condition.

Am I going crazy, some of you are actually supporting allowing "The man" into your living room without permission.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:36:21 AM EDT

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Steve they are inspecting the building and property not you possesions. And i am pretty sure your elected city council members voted for these inspections. The Code enforcement officer will not fine you for any violations but can fine the Lanlord after many warnings and a long drawn out legal procedure.

A GOVERNMENT ENTITY CAN ONLY GET CONSENT OR PERMISSION FROM A RESIDENT, NOT THE PROPERTY OWNER. WITHOUT PERMISSION OR WARRANT (OR PC AND EXIGENCY), THEY ARE VIOLATING THE FOURTH AMENDMENT PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

If that is the case, Citi Mortgage technically has the deed to my home and can consent to a search for "code violations".

We are all hypothesizing that the OP lives in the slums. I would like to hear from him whether or not he believes he lives in a shithole.

Doesnt matter where he lives they can't pick on certain areas either they inspect all rentals or none at all. and belive me this is legit and nuttin you can do to stop it well short of running for City council.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:37:46 AM EDT

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Found a note on my door this morning, as did everyone else in my complex. It seems the City has decided to start going around and looking inside people's apartments for health and safety code violations.

Well, they can go fuck themselves! I don't know what their little game is, but the government isn't getting into MY apartment without a warrant. These assholes can go piss up a rope. Check my apartment for safety violations. They must be getting desperate for money if they think they can just walk into someone's apartment and start issuing tickets for having a stock of magazines too close to the fire place, or too many shoes in front of the door.

[mumbling]Fuckin' bastards go and piss me off before lunch...[/mumbling]

If you rent, it ain't yours. Landlord gave in, you are out of options. Better clean up the pile of feces in the tub...

BULLLLLLLL-SHIT!

My lease states that this gets to be my residence and that anyone wanting to come in without a warrant has to get my permission first, unless it's a life threatening emergency.

+1

no matter what the "lease" says - if that is your legal occupancy, then you are entitled to all of the rights, priveledges and privacy therein. Reasonable exceptions include situations that might be an endangerment to others - such as utilities or fire risk.

This "inspection" might be under the guise of that above disclaimer - so YMMV and I am not a lawyer.

They must have probable cause to believe that fire condition exists, that can't just go out on a flock shoot and hope for it.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:39:02 AM EDT

[#20]

The landlord probably has no choice. I'm also wondering if the apartments are getting inspected because someone filed a complaint.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:41:25 AM EDT

[#21]

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Steve they are inspecting the building and property not you possesions. And i am pretty sure your elected city council members voted for these inspections. The Code enforcement officer will not fine you for any violations but can fine the Lanlord after many warnings and a long drawn out legal procedure.

A GOVERNMENT ENTITY CAN ONLY GET CONSENT OR PERMISSION FROM A RESIDENT, NOT THE PROPERTY OWNER. WITHOUT PERMISSION OR WARRANT (OR PC AND EXIGENCY), THEY ARE VIOLATING THE FOURTH AMENDMENT PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

If that is the case, Citi Mortgage technically has the deed to my home and can consent to a search for "code violations".

We are all hypothesizing that the OP lives in the slums. I would like to hear from him whether or not he believes he lives in a shithole.

Doesnt matter where he lives they can't pick on certain areas either they inspect all rentals or none at all. and belive me this is legit and nuttin you can do to stop it well short of running for City council.

So, hypothetically speaking of course, what would happen if the tenant were home at the time of said inspection, and refuses entry?

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:42:14 AM EDT

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Found a note on my door this morning, as did everyone else in my complex. It seems the City has decided to start going around and looking inside people's apartments for health and safety code violations.

Well, they can go fuck themselves! I don't know what their little game is, but the government isn't getting into MY apartment without a warrant. These assholes can go piss up a rope. Check my apartment for safety violations. They must be getting desperate for money if they think they can just walk into someone's apartment and start issuing tickets for having a stock of magazines too close to the fire place, or too many shoes in front of the door.

[mumbling]Fuckin' bastards go and piss me off before lunch...[/mumbling]

If you rent, it ain't yours. Landlord gave in, you are out of options. Better clean up the pile of feces in the tub...

Thats not true at all. He still maintains a residence there.

If it is listed in the contract, the landlord can give 24 hours notice and do a walk through but he cannot do it on behalf of the government.

Yes it is.

If the property management want to walk the city through, they have every right to do so.

Not if the city then prosecutes the renter for any unsafe conditions. Think about this for a minute. A citation is a criminal charge. I cannot circumvent consent or a warrant through an outside entity, they essentially become an employee of the government.

Can the landlord walk through, yes, can he take others through, no.

It is not about the renter it is the Landlord they cannot prosecute the tenant.period.

They can if he creates the unsafe condition.

Am I going crazy, some of you are actually supporting allowing "The man" into your living room without permission.

Not that i support it but it is what it is. If Steve has done something to make his home unsafe which i am sure he problably has not it will still fall on the lanlord to fix it by eviction or whatever the remedy may be. There is a reason these codes were VOTED into law and some communities decided to inspect all rentals not just slum areas.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:43:37 AM EDT

[#23]

Your lease does not shield you from local laws. Additionally - you don't own the property and the owner does have to comply with local laws. Call the number listed on the notice and ask for the specific law that supports their right to inspect. Don't be a dick about it - be nice.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:43:47 AM EDT

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You'd be surprised at the amount of power safety & code people have... usually more than police have in terms of entering your property and looking at stuff.

The big problem is that the police will probably be there to escort them and anything they see or find can be used against you.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:43:55 AM EDT

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I have a feeling there may actually be code violations in OP's apartment. Can we see some pics?

I just don't see the City coming to inspect a apartment unless someone dimed you off.

Were you the one who called? Was his grass too tall?

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:44:31 AM EDT

[#26]

Tell them to get a warrant and they'll call law enforcement and say you are being anti social, law enforcement will show up and fabricate a reason to enter your apartment.

Welcome to the police state man.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:46:24 AM EDT

[#27]

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Steve they are inspecting the building and property not you possesions. And i am pretty sure your elected city council members voted for these inspections. The Code enforcement officer will not fine you for any violations but can fine the Lanlord after many warnings and a long drawn out legal procedure.

A GOVERNMENT ENTITY CAN ONLY GET CONSENT OR PERMISSION FROM A RESIDENT, NOT THE PROPERTY OWNER. WITHOUT PERMISSION OR WARRANT (OR PC AND EXIGENCY), THEY ARE VIOLATING THE FOURTH AMENDMENT PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

If that is the case, Citi Mortgage technically has the deed to my home and can consent to a search for "code violations".

We are all hypothesizing that the OP lives in the slums. I would like to hear from him whether or not he believes he lives in a shithole.

Doesnt matter where he lives they can't pick on certain areas either they inspect all rentals or none at all. and belive me this is legit and nuttin you can do to stop it well short of running for City council.

So, hypothetically speaking of course, what would happen if the tenant were home at the time of said inspection, and refuses entry?

All communities are different In the case of apartments my wife has to inspect a percentage of the homes. she finds a lot of the tenents actually point out code violations .I have seen pictures it is a shame what some people live in.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:46:43 AM EDT

[#28]

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You guys need to get out more

I had the city code inspectors ask to go into my rentals before I got rid of them. I also had the Fire Department ask to inspect my office once for Fire Code enforcement. This is routine stuff, don't start strapping on magazines and body armor

You (motown-steve/tenant) don't have to worry about it, normally citations are issued to the owner, not the tenant. It may be that some other tenant filed a complaint, they found problems and want to inspect all the apartments. You would be amazed at what can be considered a violation. I got written up for stuff like missing light bulbs, missing outlet covers, something that I never understood about how I attached the water heater etc.

Never hurts to practise.

Yeah, it's pretty routine. Usually bs.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:47:16 AM EDT

[#29]

I can file a million complaints to a city, they still can't barge in or issue a citation on nothing.

OP, I talked this over with some other detectives in my division.

I beleive the city is attempting to dupe you into giving permission hoping that you will not challenge it.

Most people do not know their rights, they have nothing to hide and they will always allow a government official in.

YOU do have a right to your privacy and your kingdom.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:50:30 AM EDT

[#30]

i live in dallas

i got one of them thiings on my door about 3 weeks ago,

picked up the dead hooker and was pretty much good to go

maybe i "gave in to them" or even " sold out "

i was home when they knocked. < after the 48 hour notice.. >

i opened .. they said who they were.. i bladed... then i opened the door all the way and said... sure knock your self out..

she peeked in for about 1/4 of a sec and said.. thanks

and left,.

I fail as a patriot

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:50:57 AM EDT

[#31]

Seriously, the people who do code enforcement couldn't give a shit how many guns you have or how sticky your sheets are. If they're coming in, it's either because a mandatory periodic rental property inspection is due, or because someone filed a complaint.

Just let 'em in for 5 minutes to walk your place, see what they need to about the structure/facilities (which you don't own and have no privacy claim to), and they'll be on their way. If you have a beef with them coming in, then be there to escort them during their inspection.

The bitch of living in 'attached housing' is that you're subject to regulations that govern the larger structure. Don't like it, buy a house.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:51:15 AM EDT

[#32]

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I can file a million complaints to a city, they still can't barge in or issue a citation on nothing.

OP, I talked this over with some other detectives in my division.

I beleive the city is attempting to dupe you into giving permission hoping that you will not challenge it.

Most people do not know their rights, they have nothing to hide and they will always allow a government official in.

YOU do have a right to your privacy and your kingdom.

Here is the thing Slower Code enforcement is not a state to State thing it is A City or County thing. If i were steve i would consult an attorney in his area to get legal advice.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:52:37 AM EDT

[#33]

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You should move to a free state.

not funny

I am starting to think Texas is lost..too many influences from Michigan, Illinios, NY, CT, CALIFUCKINFORNIA have poluted much of the large population areas ALA Los Colinias..

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:53:03 AM EDT

[#34]

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Found a note on my door this morning, as did everyone else in my complex. It seems the City has decided to start going around and looking inside people's apartments for health and safety code violations.

Well, they can go fuck themselves! I don't know what their little game is, but the government isn't getting into MY apartment without a warrant. These assholes can go piss up a rope. Check my apartment for safety violations. They must be getting desperate for money if they think they can just walk into someone's apartment and start issuing tickets for having a stock of magazines too close to the fire place, or too many shoes in front of the door.

[mumbling]Fuckin' bastards go and piss me off before lunch...[/mumbling]

If you rent, it ain't yours. Landlord gave in, you are out of options. Better clean up the pile of feces in the tub...

BULLLLLLLL-SHIT!

My lease states that this gets to be my residence and that anyone wanting to come in without a warrant has to get my permission first, unless it's a life threatening emergency.

change your locks and don't answer the door.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:53:10 AM EDT

[#35]

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Found a note on my door this morning, as did everyone else in my complex. It seems the City has decided to start going around and looking inside people's apartments for health and safety code violations.

Well, they can go fuck themselves! I don't know what their little game is, but the government isn't getting into MY apartment without a warrant. These assholes can go piss up a rope. Check my apartment for safety violations. They must be getting desperate for money if they think they can just walk into someone's apartment and start issuing tickets for having a stock of magazines too close to the fire place, or too many shoes in front of the door.

[mumbling]Fuckin' bastards go and piss me off before lunch...[/mumbling]

Its aimed at the landlord, not you. If you don't allow them in to inspect, the landlord will not get a certificate of compliance, and your building will be shut downby the city and you'll be homeless. So you might want to reconsider that stance of yours.

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BULLLLLLLL-SHIT!

My lease states that this gets to be my residence and that anyone wanting to come in without a warrant has to get my permission first, unless it's a life threatening emergency.

Wrong. The landlord has to give you 24 hours notice for non-emergencies. For emergencies, he can come in without a 24 hour notice. No warrant needed.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:53:26 AM EDT

[#36]

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I can file a million complaints to a city, they still can't barge in or issue a citation on nothing.

OP, I talked this over with some other detectives in my division.

I beleive the city is attempting to dupe you into giving permission hoping that you will not challenge it.

Most people do not know their rights, they have nothing to hide and they will always allow a government official in.

YOU do have a right to your privacy and your kingdom.

Here is the thing Slower Code enforcement is not a state to State thing it is A City or County thing. If i were steve i would consult an attorney in his area to get legal advice.

Seriously? Or, he could just let them in to see what particular code violation may exist and move on. What's the big fucking deal?

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:53:41 AM EDT

[#37]

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Steve where is this?? is the city of Dallas?

is the apartment complex in violation?

this is bullshit...

and needs to be stopped..

Los Colinas.

isnt that City OF Irving?,,you have Marxists in the city council there for certain..

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:53:43 AM EDT

[#38]

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Found a note on my door this morning, as did everyone else in my complex. It seems the City has decided to start going around and looking inside people's apartments for health and safety code violations.

Well, they can go fuck themselves! I don't know what their little game is, but the government isn't getting into MY apartment without a warrant. These assholes can go piss up a rope. Check my apartment for safety violations. They must be getting desperate for money if they think they can just walk into someone's apartment and start issuing tickets for having a stock of magazines too close to the fire place, or too many shoes in front of the door.

[mumbling]Fuckin' bastards go and piss me off before lunch...[/mumbling]

.... No mumbling sir, the correct answer is :
...........................................NO...................................

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:53:59 AM EDT

[#39]

Fuckin' Californ...wait, what?

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:55:46 AM EDT

[#40]

Forget the code inspection. Why did you change your avatar!?

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:56:01 AM EDT

[#41]

dibs on guns, ammo, optics, reloading stuff and dyson vacuum cleaners.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:56:29 AM EDT

[#42]

There looking for mold and stuff which can cause many people to get sick in the complex. Once its in the walls and stuff your screwed.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:57:48 AM EDT

[#43]

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i live in dallas

i got one of them thiings on my door about 3 weeks ago,

picked up the dead hooker and was pretty much good to go
maybe i "gave in to them" or even " sold out "

i was home when they knocked. < after the 48 hour notice.. >

i opened .. they said who they were.. i bladed... then i opened the door all the way and said... sure knock your self out..

she peeked in for about 1/4 of a sec and said.. thanks

and left,.
I fail as a patriot

Buddy, I'm not saying you fail as a patriot, I'm trying to help people out. I don't think some fathom the sheer number of things that are illegal but would not seem so. Code violation books, atleast in the city I work for, are thick and complicated, they cover everything including having an inoperable car next to your home or weeds growing.

I am all for a safe and clean neighborhood but the people of the city stil need to ask permission and be legal about it. They cannot go around telling people that they are going to do something.

I will be far more receptive to

"The city of blah blah blah would appreciate your assistance in inspecting your apartment for potential code violations. With your permission, we would like to walk through your place of residence with you and make sure that no unsafe conditions exist. We appreciate any assistance you provide."

Instead of

"We are conducting inspections for code violations in your complex. We will be entering after the period of notice has expired."

OP, what exactly did the note say?

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:58:04 AM EDT

[#44]

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Quoted:

You guys need to get out more

I had the city code inspectors ask to go into my rentals before I got rid of them. I also had the Fire Department ask to inspect my office once for Fire Code enforcement. This is routine stuff, don't start strapping on magazines and body armor

You (motown-steve/tenant) don't have to worry about it, normally citations are issued to the owner, not the tenant. It may be that some other tenant filed a complaint, they found problems and want to inspect all the apartments. You would be amazed at what can be considered a violation. I got written up for stuff like missing light bulbs, missing outlet covers, something that I never understood about how I attached the water heater etc.

Never hurts to practise.

Yeah, it's pretty routine. Usually bs.

You need to get an AR before you worry about body armor, mister.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:58:16 AM EDT

[#45]

Tinfoil me: Make them work for it at least. Or at least give you a satisfactory explanation of their purpose and by what authority they can do so and what the parameters are.
Normal me: Tell them to make it snappy.

Posted: 9/9/2010 8:59:26 AM EDT

[#46]

Lie naked in the middle of the living room covered in your own feces and masturbating furiously. Doubt they would stick around long.

Posted: 9/9/2010 9:00:49 AM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:

Quoted:

I can file a million complaints to a city, they still can't barge in or issue a citation on nothing.

OP, I talked this over with some other detectives in my division.

I beleive the city is attempting to dupe you into giving permission hoping that you will not challenge it.

Most people do not know their rights, they have nothing to hide and they will always allow a government official in.

YOU do have a right to your privacy and your kingdom.

Here is the thing Slower Code enforcement is not a state to State thing it is A City or County thing. If i were steve i would consult an attorney in his area to get legal advice.

The city must conform to the counties standards, the county to the state and the state to federal law.

Amendment XIV

Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868.

Note: Article I, section 2, of the Constitution was modified by section 2 of the 14th amendment.

Section 1.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside
. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the
privileges or immunities
of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without
due process
of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the
equal protection
of the laws.

Posted: 9/9/2010 9:02:03 AM EDT

[#48]

Quoted:

You guys need to get out more

I had the city code inspectors ask to go into my rentals before I got rid of them. I also had the Fire Department ask to inspect my office once for Fire Code enforcement. This is routine stuff, don't start strapping on magazines and body armor

You (motown-steve/tenant) don't have to worry about it, normally citations are issued to the owner, not the tenant. It may be that some other tenant filed a complaint, they found problems and want to inspect all the apartments. You would be amazed at what can be considered a violation. I got written up for stuff like missing light bulbs, missing outlet covers, something that I never understood about how I attached the water heater etc.

While you are always the voice of tempered reason, I think the OP's rant is based in principal. That being said, I'm unfortunately a fence-rider on this one. A) He's got every right to decry the intrusion of government into his home. and B) If he's not the property owner, he may have given up the right to complain when he signed the lease.

Posted: 9/9/2010 9:02:34 AM EDT

[#49]

The BTK serial killer in Wichita (IIRC) Kansas was a code enforcement officer...just sayin...

Posted: 9/9/2010 9:03:28 AM EDT

[#50]

Quoted:

Quoted:

I can file a million complaints to a city, they still can't barge in or issue a citation on nothing.

OP, I talked this over with some other detectives in my division.

I beleive the city is attempting to dupe you into giving permission hoping that you will not challenge it.

Most people do not know their rights, they have nothing to hide and they will always allow a government official in.

YOU do have a right to your privacy and your kingdom.

Here is the thing Slower Code enforcement is not a state to State thing it is A City or County thing. If i were steve i would consult an attorney in his area to get legal advice.

Seriously? Or, he could just let them in to see what particular code violation may exist and move on. What's the big fucking deal?

God, I am starting to sound like a paranoid constitutionalist.

The big fucking deal is the fact that we still enjoy specific rights in this country and excercising them is what makes it so great. I have so many ways to legally enter a home when something unlawful is occurring. I LOVE writing search warrants because it is so much harder to follow the constitution than it is to just say fuck it, lets violate his rights.

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