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Posted: 3/31/2010 1:09:12 PM EDT
Is there a MOS for a Ranger?  The few Army types I know all say a Rangers MOS is still 11B.  

The reason I ask.  I'm hanging out at the local AmVets with my GF's brother in law (Dan) who was a 19D.  Any way this dude was eyeballing my GF's sister (Dan's wife), turns out they went to HS together or something.  Us two guys go out side for a smoke and the guy is out there and asks Dan if he was ever in the service.  Dan says yes, the Army.  What were you... 19D.  Then the guy says "Yeah, I was a (something) bang bang xray!"  Dan's like "I have no idea what that is"  Guy says "Airborne Ranger!"  I didn't quite catch what the "something" was, it could have been "11" but I don't know for sure I was only half listening to the guy at this point.  I'm about 90% that this dude was never a Ranger and about 50% that this dude was never in the Army.  Anyway the question is:

Is there an actual MOS or designator for a Ranger?  Would the MOS be 11BX? Is it common for a grunt or what ever you call it in the Army to say "Bang Bang" for the Bravo?  

Thanks
Link Posted: 3/31/2010 1:13:16 PM EDT
[#1]
not .mil but Ive heard 11bang, 11bush, 11bravo
Link Posted: 3/31/2010 1:14:52 PM EDT
[#2]
There's many MOS's in a Ranger bat. 11B, 13F, 68W, etc. Hell, even Del@&%... you know, that unit, is 11B, for example. And I'm sure they have more as well.
Not sure what the exact MOS for a Ranger infantryman would be, but for a regular paratrooper, for example, it would be along the lines of "11B1P". 11 is the basic series, which is infantry. B is the specific occupation, rifleman, 1 means junior enlisted (not in a leadership position, basically), and the P means airborne-qualified.






ETA: better answers than mine are below.
 
Link Posted: 3/31/2010 1:19:51 PM EDT
[#3]
Only time I've seen/heard it called 11 "bang-bang" is on the internet.

And you can be in the 75th and have any number of PMOS.
Link Posted: 3/31/2010 1:19:54 PM EDT
[#4]
Enlisted MOS' accepted to the 75th Ranger Regiment are the following: 11B, 11C, 13F, 13Z, 21B, 21H, 21R, 21U, 21W, 25B, 25C, 25F, 25P, 25S, 25U, 25W, 25X, 27D, 35F, 35G, 35L, 35M, 35P, 42A, 44B, 44C, 45B, 45K, 52C, 52D, 56M, 63B, 63X, 68J, 68S, 68W, 68X, 74D, 79S, 88M, 88N, 89B, 92A, 92F, 92G, 92L, 92R, 92W, 92Y, 94E, 94F, 94W
Link Posted: 3/31/2010 1:21:13 PM EDT
[#5]
There isn't an MOS for Ranger. There is an SQI that is added to the MOS. G is for graduates of just the ranger course, V is for graduates of the ranger course and airborne school. There is only one MOS that has an X (x-ray) in it, that is 18X and you only have it for a short time. It is for initial entry guys accepted in to SF right off the street, they carry it until they finish the Q Course, wash out, quit, or are injured and dropped from the program. They would then be reassigned an MOS at the needs of the Army. The only other place X is used, without additional numbers after it, is for Drill Sergeants, used the same way G or V are used.
Link Posted: 3/31/2010 1:21:54 PM EDT
[#6]
tag for answer.
Link Posted: 3/31/2010 1:27:33 PM EDT
[#7]



Quoted:


tag for answer.





 
Link Posted: 3/31/2010 1:29:29 PM EDT
[#8]
The MOS code (MOSC), consisting of nine characters, provides more defined information than a soldier's MOS. It is used by automated management systems and reports. The MOSC is used with active and reserve records, reports, authorization documents, and other personnel management systems.

The elements of the MOSC are as follows:

   * First three characters: The MOS. The first two characters are always a number, the third character is always a letter. The two-digit number is usually (but not always) synonymous with the Career Management Field (CMF). For example, CMF 11 covers infantry, so MOS 11B is "Rifle Infantryman". Among the letters, "Z" is reserved for "Senior Sergeant" (E-8), such that 11Z is "Infantry Senior Sergeant".
   * The fourth character of the MOSC represents skill level (commensurate with rank and grade):
         o 0 is used to identify personnel undergoing training for award of a primary MOS (PMOS).
         o 1 identifies a Private (PVT) through Specialist (SPC) or Corporal (CPL) (also includes Specialist-4 [SP4] for older ranks)
         o 2 identifies a Sergeant (SGT) (or SP5 for older ranks)
         o 3 identifies a Staff Sergeant (SSG) (or SP6 for older ranks)
         o 4 identifies a Sergeant First Class (SFC)
         o 5 identifies a Master Sergeant (MSG), First Sergeant (1SG), Sergeant Major (SGM) or Command Sergeant Major (CSM). (see MOSC for E-8 and above, below).
   * Fifth character: A letter or number and a special Qualification identifier (SQI). It may be associated with any MOS unless otherwise specified. Soldiers without any special SQI are assigned the SQI "O" (oscar), often confused as a zero.
   * Sixth and seventh characters: An additional skill identifier (ASI). They are an alphanumeric combination and may only be associated with specified MOSs, although in practice some ASIs are available to every MOS (e.g. ASI P5 for "master fitness trainer"). Soldiers without any ASIs are assigned the default ASI "00" (zero-zero).
   * Eighth and ninth characters: Two-letter requirements and qualifications which are a language identification code (LIC). Soldiers without a language skill are assigned the default LIC "OO" (Oscar-Oscar). LIC codes can be found in AR 611-6.

MOSC for E-8 and above

When an enlisted soldier is promoted from Sergeant First Class to Master Sergeant in most career types, that soldier will be reclassified administratively to the "Senior Sergeant" of their Career Management Field. For example, a combat engineer (MOS 21B, part of CMF 21) is promoted from Sergeant First Class to Master Sergeant. That soldier is reclassified administratively from MOS 21B to MOS 21Z "Engineer Senior Sergeant"). An example of when this conversion occurs at the MSG to SGM level is the 68 (formerly the 91) CMF. In this case, the Soldier becomes a 68Z at the SGM level, not the MSG level. When promoted from Master Sergeant or First Sergeant or Sergeant Major to Command Sergeant Major, that soldier will be reclassified administratively from their previous "Senior Sergeant" MOS to the MOS 00Z (zero-zero-zulu), "Sergeant Major". This reclassification occurs irrespective of the soldier's original MOS.


I'm trying to dig up the MOSC codes for the 5-9th characters.  I'll post more as I find it.
Link Posted: 3/31/2010 1:43:28 PM EDT
[#9]
Pretty much what I thought but not having been in the Army I wasn't sure.  "11 Bang-Bang X-ray" is apparently the Poser MOS.
Link Posted: 3/31/2010 2:01:05 PM EDT
[#10]



Quoted:


Pretty much what I thought but not having been in the Army I wasn't sure.  "11 Bang-Bang X-ray" is apparently the Poser MOS.


No, it is not.  



Not official, but just as authentic as 11 bullet-sponge.  



 
Link Posted: 3/31/2010 2:24:34 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:

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Pretty much what I thought but not having been in the Army I wasn't sure.  "11 Bang-Bang X-ray" is apparently the Poser MOS.

No, it is not.  

Not official, but just as authentic as 11 bullet-sponge.  
 


I thought the "X" was only used to indicate that an individual had not yet completed training and officially been assigned an MOS. For example, in 1994 (when I started Basic) my contract said "11X." I could have been given 11C (indirect fire infantryman) or 11M (mechanized infantryman). But after Basic & AIT it became 11B (infantryman).
Link Posted: 3/31/2010 2:29:26 PM EDT
[#12]



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Pretty much what I thought but not having been in the Army I wasn't sure.  "11 Bang-Bang X-ray" is apparently the Poser MOS.


No, it is not.  



Not official, but just as authentic as 11 bullet-sponge.  

 




I thought the "X" was only used to indicate that an individual had not yet completed training and officially been assigned an MOS. For example, in 1994 (when I started Basic) my contract said "11X." I could have been given 11C (indirect fire infantryman) or 11M (mechanized infantryman). But after Basic & AIT it became 11B (infantryman).
It's been almost 20 years, but the Xray identifier was lost once I was assigned to Bat., IIRC.  



I still was an 11b.  later I got a Victor identifier.  



When folks ask these days what I did in the army I tell the ones who are uniform worshipers that I was a bullet sponge, or 11 bang bang.  Those who don't care I tell that I was in 1st Bat.





 
Link Posted: 3/31/2010 2:29:29 PM EDT
[#13]





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Pretty much what I thought but not having been in the Army I wasn't sure.  "11 Bang-Bang X-ray" is apparently the Poser MOS.



No, it is not.  





Not official, but just as authentic as 11 bullet-sponge.  


 






I thought the "X" was only used to indicate that an individual had not yet completed training and officially been assigned an MOS. For example, in 1994 (when I started Basic) my contract said "11X." I could have been given 11C (indirect fire infantryman) or 11M (mechanized infantryman). But after Basic & AIT it became 11B (infantryman).
You are correct.





Only designator for Ranger is for the tab...a V designator in the long MOS 11B2V (for example). None for just a Batt boy....but if he's there for long he'll be a tab wearing batt boy and have the victor designator.



ETA: 3 freaking seconds on the V designator...
 
Link Posted: 3/31/2010 2:45:05 PM EDT
[#14]
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There isn't an MOS for Ranger. There is an SQI that is added to the MOS. G is for graduates of just the ranger course, V is for graduates of the ranger course and airborne school. There is only one MOS that has an X (x-ray) in it, that is 18X and you only have it for a short time. It is for initial entry guys accepted in to SF right off the street, they carry it until they finish the Q Course, wash out, quit, or are injured and dropped from the program. They would then be reassigned an MOS at the needs of the Army. The only other place X is used, without additional numbers after it, is for Drill Sergeants, used the same way G or V are used.


You forgot the W9 identifier. SCUBA, Ranger, Airborne. I wonder if they still have that identifier at all.
Link Posted: 3/31/2010 3:29:52 PM EDT
[#15]




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There isn't an MOS for Ranger. There is an SQI that is added to the MOS. G is for graduates of just the ranger course, V is for graduates of the ranger course and airborne school. There is only one MOS that has an X (x-ray) in it, that is 18X and you only have it for a short time. It is for initial entry guys accepted in to SF right off the street, they carry it until they finish the Q Course, wash out, quit, or are injured and dropped from the program. They would then be reassigned an MOS at the needs of the Army. The only other place X is used, without additional numbers after it, is for Drill Sergeants, used the same way G or V are used.




You forgot the W9 identifier. SCUBA, Ranger, Airborne. I wonder if they still have that identifier at all.
The RRD Rangers would have that identifier if I understand correctly.



Link Posted: 3/31/2010 3:38:34 PM EDT
[#16]
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There isn't an MOS for Ranger. There is an SQI that is added to the MOS. G is for graduates of just the ranger course, V is for graduates of the ranger course and airborne school. There is only one MOS that has an X (x-ray) in it, that is 18X and you only have it for a short time. It is for initial entry guys accepted in to SF right off the street, they carry it until they finish the Q Course, wash out, quit, or are injured and dropped from the program. They would then be reassigned an MOS at the needs of the Army. The only other place X is used, without additional numbers after it, is for Drill Sergeants, used the same way G or V are used.


You forgot the W9 identifier. SCUBA, Ranger, Airborne. I wonder if they still have that identifier at all.
The RRD Rangers would have that identifier if I understand correctly.



There is no W9 identifier. Must have phased it out. There is a W7, Special Forces Underwater Operations, which is given to graduates of the Combat Diver Qualification Course. I know Rangers go through the course, not sure if they get the identifier. I can check tomorrow though.
Link Posted: 3/31/2010 3:41:16 PM EDT
[#17]
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There isn't an MOS for Ranger. There is an SQI that is added to the MOS. G is for graduates of just the ranger course, V is for graduates of the ranger course and airborne school. There is only one MOS that has an X (x-ray) in it, that is 18X and you only have it for a short time. It is for initial entry guys accepted in to SF right off the street, they carry it until they finish the Q Course, wash out, quit, or are injured and dropped from the program. They would then be reassigned an MOS at the needs of the Army. The only other place X is used, without additional numbers after it, is for Drill Sergeants, used the same way G or V are used.


You forgot the W9 identifier. SCUBA, Ranger, Airborne. I wonder if they still have that identifier at all.
The RRD Rangers would have that identifier if I understand correctly.



There is no W9 identifier. Must have phased it out. There is a W7, Special Forces Underwater Operations, which is given to graduates of the Combat Diver Qualification Course. I know Rangers go through the course, not sure if they get the identifier. I can check tomorrow though.


REgimental Recon has both W8 and W7 slots.
Link Posted: 3/31/2010 3:41:26 PM EDT
[#18]


When I was in the army after I got my tab my MOS changed from 11B1P to 11B1V for airborne ranger.  I think once you get your E5 it changes from 11B1V to something else.


Any MOS can get a Tab, even cooks :)

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