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I haven't loaded SETI at home on a computer in about 10 years, prob a windows 2000 machine was the last thing I had it on.

Should I load it up again? What's new with it? I played with some of the add on software that showed where the signal packets came from in the sky but never got much out of the software. Didn't seem interactive enough to keep my interests, like watching paint dry.
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I work directly with SETI at Home, I can tell you just about anything about it you might want to know.

What's new: Astropulse v6 just launched, Green Bank Telescope data, Kepler ob data, multiple new servers and so forth.

What GPU (video card) do you have? Once you get back to me on that, we can go from there.
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I have a fairly new computer but now card, only onboard video.
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Posted: 3/30/2012 5:08:35 PM

Originally Posted By urbanredneck:
I have a fairly new computer but now card, only onboard video.

Unless you're wanting to run CPU only tasks (which you can), you really won't do much science using a CPU only.

If you still want to give it a go, pick up the latest Boinc download, hook up to SETI at home and give it a go. You might also want to go to the SETI website to select 'CPU Only' on your task scheduler.

If you run into any questions during the way, post here and I'll help get you sorted.
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What can you do with a video card? What are the more interactive add-ons?
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The video card runs SETI in a massively parallel mode. Don't think of it as a video card, this of it as an array of many CPUs, each doing SETI work in parallel.

SETI on CUDA
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Originally Posted By lvcipriani:

The video card runs SETI in a massively parallel mode. Don't think of it as a video card, this of it as an array of many CPUs, each doing SETI work in parallel.

SETI on CUDA

Yep basically this.

To keep it simple, compare the same task on two mediums. The task will take about 5 minutes on a GTX 560ti. The same task takes 3.5 hours on my hex core AMD processor.

The good news about CPU crunching is you can utilize the Astropulse system which searches not only more sky and a higher frequency range but also looks for phenomenon other than ET such as Pulsars, Quasars and similar. You can run one task per CPU core typically and they take between 12-15 hours on a decent CPU.
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Originally Posted By Slavac:

Originally Posted By lvcipriani:

The video card runs SETI in a massively parallel mode. Don't think of it as a video card, this of it as an array of many CPUs, each doing SETI work in parallel.

SETI on CUDA

Yep basically this.

To keep it simple, compare the same task on two mediums. The task will take about 5 minutes on a GTX 560ti. The same task takes 3.5 hours on my hex core AMD processor.

The good news about CPU crunching is you can utilize the Astropulse system which searches not only more sky and a higher frequency range but also looks for phenomenon other than ET such as Pulsars, Quasars and similar. You can run one task per CPU core typically and they take between 12-15 hours on a decent CPU.


I might have to go download this.
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Originally Posted By Ciraxis:
Originally Posted By Slavac:

Originally Posted By lvcipriani:

The video card runs SETI in a massively parallel mode. Don't think of it as a video card, this of it as an array of many CPUs, each doing SETI work in parallel.

SETI on CUDA

Yep basically this.

To keep it simple, compare the same task on two mediums. The task will take about 5 minutes on a GTX 560ti. The same task takes 3.5 hours on my hex core AMD processor.

The good news about CPU crunching is you can utilize the Astropulse system which searches not only more sky and a higher frequency range but also looks for phenomenon other than ET such as Pulsars, Quasars and similar. You can run one task per CPU core typically and they take between 12-15 hours on a decent CPU.


I might have to go download this.

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php Download the 6.10.60 version as it runs quite a bit smoother.

Once downloaded open Boinc, > Tools > Add a project then follow it from there. If you run into any questions, I'm here to help
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Posted: 4/23/2012 12:16:09 PM
Originally Posted By Slavac:

Originally Posted By Ciraxis:
Originally Posted By Slavac:

Originally Posted By lvcipriani:

The video card runs SETI in a massively parallel mode. Don't think of it as a video card, this of it as an array of many CPUs, each doing SETI work in parallel.

SETI on CUDA

Yep basically this.

To keep it simple, compare the same task on two mediums. The task will take about 5 minutes on a GTX 560ti. The same task takes 3.5 hours on my hex core AMD processor.

The good news about CPU crunching is you can utilize the Astropulse system which searches not only more sky and a higher frequency range but also looks for phenomenon other than ET such as Pulsars, Quasars and similar. You can run one task per CPU core typically and they take between 12-15 hours on a decent CPU.


I might have to go download this.

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php Download the 6.10.60 version as it runs quite a bit smoother.

Once downloaded open Boinc, > Tools > Add a project then follow it from there. If you run into any questions, I'm here to help


Do you work with or for seti? I'd love to hear about it. I just saw a show with Phil Plait where he talked with some guys at seti. Its cool stuff
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Posted: 4/23/2012 1:36:06 PM

Originally Posted By Ciraxis:
Originally Posted By Slavac:

Originally Posted By Ciraxis:
Originally Posted By Slavac:

Originally Posted By lvcipriani:

The video card runs SETI in a massively parallel mode. Don't think of it as a video card, this of it as an array of many CPUs, each doing SETI work in parallel.

SETI on CUDA

Yep basically this.

To keep it simple, compare the same task on two mediums. The task will take about 5 minutes on a GTX 560ti. The same task takes 3.5 hours on my hex core AMD processor.

The good news about CPU crunching is you can utilize the Astropulse system which searches not only more sky and a higher frequency range but also looks for phenomenon other than ET such as Pulsars, Quasars and similar. You can run one task per CPU core typically and they take between 12-15 hours on a decent CPU.


I might have to go download this.

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php Download the 6.10.60 version as it runs quite a bit smoother.

Once downloaded open Boinc, > Tools > Add a project then follow it from there. If you run into any questions, I'm here to help


Do you work with or for seti? I'd love to hear about it. I just saw a show with Phil Plait where he talked with some guys at seti. Its cool stuff
I run a NPO [url=http://www.gpuug.org[/url]] which takes donations in and provides SETI with things like servers, components, data transport drives, office equipment and so on and so forth. If you have any questions, post'em here and I'll be happy to answer.

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I miss the days when I could run SETI@home on my second-tier computers and fileservers, just letting it run as a pretty screensaver (the pre-BOINC system).

The plane takes off, 0.999bar = 1, and a set of four fair coin flips has a 15/16 probability of including at least one tail.

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Originally Posted By KS_Physicist:
I miss the days when I could run SETI@home on my second-tier computers and fileservers, just letting it run as a pretty screensaver (the pre-BOINC system).



The results are in.

I wanted to load it again a few months ago. Figured my fairly new computer would run pretty fast. Wrong, took 8 hours to run a packet. So did some more reading, the Cuda seti will run packets in about 5 min, problem is you need a CUDA compliant graphics card. So I took a trip to CompUSA. Was looking for a cheap graphics card. The one I looked at said I needed a 400 watt power supply. The power supply on my computer is 350w. I probably could have gotten away with installing the card but it was all turning in to a big hassle.

Back to SETI though.

There are a ton of other research projects that you can also run, the least of which is some BS global warming data bs that I would only download to try and sabotage in some way!
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Originally Posted By urbanredneck:

There are a ton of other research projects that you can also run, the least of which is some BS global warming data bs that I would only download to try and sabotage in some way!

a.) the system is designed to detect just such "sabotage" and exclude your packets.
b.) if you think research is something you should "sabotage" because of political views, you probably ought to stay away from research altogether.
The plane takes off, 0.999bar = 1, and a set of four fair coin flips has a 15/16 probability of including at least one tail.

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Originally Posted By urbanredneck:
Originally Posted By KS_Physicist:
I miss the days when I could run SETI@home on my second-tier computers and fileservers, just letting it run as a pretty screensaver (the pre-BOINC system).



The results are in.

I wanted to load it again a few months ago. Figured my fairly new computer would run pretty fast. Wrong, took 8 hours to run a packet. So did some more reading, the Cuda seti will run packets in about 5 min, problem is you need a CUDA compliant graphics card. So I took a trip to CompUSA. Was looking for a cheap graphics card. The one I looked at said I needed a 400 watt power supply. The power supply on my computer is 350w. I probably could have gotten away with installing the card but it was all turning in to a big hassle.

Back to SETI though.

There are a ton of other research projects that you can also run, the least of which is some BS global warming data bs that I would only download to try and sabotage in some way!

Few things:

1. Please don't sabotage other projects. That's just silly and as KY mentioned, your work will get tossed due to the quorum most projects require.

2. A new 1000W PSU is only about $100. 1000W will run your full machine + two high end cards.

3. S&H CPU apps range from 2hr to 8hrs on a good CPU with Astropulse taking between 12-24hr ea. GPU time on these tasks range from 3 mins to 18 with AP clocking in from 20-40M running single tasks.
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Posted: 8/6/2012 5:45:26 PM
Originally Posted By KS_Physicist:

Originally Posted By urbanredneck:

There are a ton of other research projects that you can also run, the least of which is some BS global warming data bs that I would only download to try and sabotage in some way!

a.) the system is designed to detect just such "sabotage" and exclude your packets.
b.) if you think research is something you should "sabotage" because of political views, you probably ought to stay away from research altogether.


Why so serious people?

I'm not messing with my computer to run SETI which was the only project on there in which I had any interest.
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Posted: 8/18/2012 11:54:54 AM
Originally Posted By Slavac:

Originally Posted By urbanredneck:
Originally Posted By KS_Physicist:
I miss the days when I could run SETI@home on my second-tier computers and fileservers, just letting it run as a pretty screensaver (the pre-BOINC system).



The results are in.

I wanted to load it again a few months ago. Figured my fairly new computer would run pretty fast. Wrong, took 8 hours to run a packet. So did some more reading, the Cuda seti will run packets in about 5 min, problem is you need a CUDA compliant graphics card. So I took a trip to CompUSA. Was looking for a cheap graphics card. The one I looked at said I needed a 400 watt power supply. The power supply on my computer is 350w. I probably could have gotten away with installing the card but it was all turning in to a big hassle.

Back to SETI though.

There are a ton of other research projects that you can also run, the least of which is some BS global warming data bs that I would only download to try and sabotage in some way!

Few things:

1. Please don't sabotage other projects. That's just silly and as KY mentioned, your work will get tossed due to the quorum most projects require.

2. A new 1000W PSU is only about $100. 1000W will run your full machine + two high end cards.

3. S&H CPU apps range from 2hr to 8hrs on a good CPU with Astropulse taking between 12-24hr ea. GPU time on these tasks range from 3 mins to 18 with AP clocking in from 20-40M running single tasks.


I picked up a GeForce 8400 GS card yesterday. Its a 256 MB CUDA compliant card with open GL. I reinstalled SETI and I see nothing to indicate a that it is running the CUDA version. What gives? Looks like the work packet says Seti @home Enhanced 6.3....

I'm running a Windows 7 64bit machine. I installed it as a non-protected software..
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Originally Posted By Slavac:

Originally Posted By urbanredneck:
Originally Posted By KS_Physicist:
I miss the days when I could run SETI@home on my second-tier computers and fileservers, just letting it run as a pretty screensaver (the pre-BOINC system).



The results are in.

I wanted to load it again a few months ago. Figured my fairly new computer would run pretty fast. Wrong, took 8 hours to run a packet. So did some more reading, the Cuda seti will run packets in about 5 min, problem is you need a CUDA compliant graphics card. So I took a trip to CompUSA. Was looking for a cheap graphics card. The one I looked at said I needed a 400 watt power supply. The power supply on my computer is 350w. I probably could have gotten away with installing the card but it was all turning in to a big hassle.

Back to SETI though.

There are a ton of other research projects that you can also run, the least of which is some BS global warming data bs that I would only download to try and sabotage in some way!

Few things:

1. Please don't sabotage other projects. That's just silly and as KY mentioned, your work will get tossed due to the quorum most projects require.

2. A new 1000W PSU is only about $100. 1000W will run your full machine + two high end cards.

3. S&H CPU apps range from 2hr to 8hrs on a good CPU with Astropulse taking between 12-24hr ea. GPU time on these tasks range from 3 mins to 18 with AP clocking in from 20-40M running single tasks.


I picked up a GeForce 8400 GS card yesterday. Its a 256 MB CUDA compliant card with open GL. I reinstalled SETI and I see nothing to indicate a that it is running the CUDA version. What gives? Looks like the work packet says Seti @home Enhanced 6.3....

I'm running a Windows 7 64bit machine. I installed it as a non-protected software..


Go to the SETI forum. Log in. Click Account, then SETI at Home Preferences (middle of page). Then check to see which are ticked off "Use CPU, Use ATI GPU or Use GPU" You'll want the Nvidia GPU option and maybe CPU if you'd like.
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Posted: 8/20/2012 2:10:52 PM
Originally Posted By Slavac:
Originally Posted By urbanredneck:
Originally Posted By Slavac:

Originally Posted By urbanredneck:
Originally Posted By KS_Physicist:
I miss the days when I could run SETI@home on my second-tier computers and fileservers, just letting it run as a pretty screensaver (the pre-BOINC system).



The results are in.

I wanted to load it again a few months ago. Figured my fairly new computer would run pretty fast. Wrong, took 8 hours to run a packet. So did some more reading, the Cuda seti will run packets in about 5 min, problem is you need a CUDA compliant graphics card. So I took a trip to CompUSA. Was looking for a cheap graphics card. The one I looked at said I needed a 400 watt power supply. The power supply on my computer is 350w. I probably could have gotten away with installing the card but it was all turning in to a big hassle.

Back to SETI though.

There are a ton of other research projects that you can also run, the least of which is some BS global warming data bs that I would only download to try and sabotage in some way!

Few things:

1. Please don't sabotage other projects. That's just silly and as KY mentioned, your work will get tossed due to the quorum most projects require.

2. A new 1000W PSU is only about $100. 1000W will run your full machine + two high end cards.

3. S&H CPU apps range from 2hr to 8hrs on a good CPU with Astropulse taking between 12-24hr ea. GPU time on these tasks range from 3 mins to 18 with AP clocking in from 20-40M running single tasks.


I picked up a GeForce 8400 GS card yesterday. Its a 256 MB CUDA compliant card with open GL. I reinstalled SETI and I see nothing to indicate a that it is running the CUDA version. What gives? Looks like the work packet says Seti @home Enhanced 6.3....

I'm running a Windows 7 64bit machine. I installed it as a non-protected software..


Go to the SETI forum. Log in. Click Account, then SETI at Home Preferences (middle of page). Then check to see which are ticked off "Use CPU, Use ATI GPU or Use GPU" You'll want the Nvidia GPU option and maybe CPU if you'd like.


I gave up on that card, took it back. It only met the minimal requirements and Boinc was not picking it up b/c the available memory was reading under 256 mb.
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Originally Posted By urbanredneck:
Originally Posted By Slavac:

Originally Posted By urbanredneck:
Originally Posted By KS_Physicist:
I miss the days when I could run SETI@home on my second-tier computers and fileservers, just letting it run as a pretty screensaver (the pre-BOINC system).



The results are in.

I wanted to load it again a few months ago. Figured my fairly new computer would run pretty fast. Wrong, took 8 hours to run a packet. So did some more reading, the Cuda seti will run packets in about 5 min, problem is you need a CUDA compliant graphics card. So I took a trip to CompUSA. Was looking for a cheap graphics card. The one I looked at said I needed a 400 watt power supply. The power supply on my computer is 350w. I probably could have gotten away with installing the card but it was all turning in to a big hassle.

Back to SETI though.

There are a ton of other research projects that you can also run, the least of which is some BS global warming data bs that I would only download to try and sabotage in some way!

Few things:

1. Please don't sabotage other projects. That's just silly and as KY mentioned, your work will get tossed due to the quorum most projects require.

2. A new 1000W PSU is only about $100. 1000W will run your full machine + two high end cards.

3. S&H CPU apps range from 2hr to 8hrs on a good CPU with Astropulse taking between 12-24hr ea. GPU time on these tasks range from 3 mins to 18 with AP clocking in from 20-40M running single tasks.


I picked up a GeForce 8400 GS card yesterday. Its a 256 MB CUDA compliant card with open GL. I reinstalled SETI and I see nothing to indicate a that it is running the CUDA version. What gives? Looks like the work packet says Seti @home Enhanced 6.3....

I'm running a Windows 7 64bit machine. I installed it as a non-protected software..


Go to the SETI forum. Log in. Click Account, then SETI at Home Preferences (middle of page). Then check to see which are ticked off "Use CPU, Use ATI GPU or Use GPU" You'll want the Nvidia GPU option and maybe CPU if you'd like.


I gave up on that card, took it back. It only met the minimal requirements and Boinc was not picking it up b/c the available memory was reading under 256 mb.


Ah okay. You might want to pick up a used 560ti or something similar. They shouldn't cost more than $200.
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Originally Posted By Slavac:
Originally Posted By urbanredneck:
Originally Posted By Slavac:

Originally Posted By urbanredneck:
Originally Posted By KS_Physicist:
I miss the days when I could run SETI@home on my second-tier computers and fileservers, just letting it run as a pretty screensaver (the pre-BOINC system).



The results are in.

I wanted to load it again a few months ago. Figured my fairly new computer would run pretty fast. Wrong, took 8 hours to run a packet. So did some more reading, the Cuda seti will run packets in about 5 min, problem is you need a CUDA compliant graphics card. So I took a trip to CompUSA. Was looking for a cheap graphics card. The one I looked at said I needed a 400 watt power supply. The power supply on my computer is 350w. I probably could have gotten away with installing the card but it was all turning in to a big hassle.

Back to SETI though.

There are a ton of other research projects that you can also run, the least of which is some BS global warming data bs that I would only download to try and sabotage in some way!

Few things:

1. Please don't sabotage other projects. That's just silly and as KY mentioned, your work will get tossed due to the quorum most projects require.

2. A new 1000W PSU is only about $100. 1000W will run your full machine + two high end cards.

3. S&H CPU apps range from 2hr to 8hrs on a good CPU with Astropulse taking between 12-24hr ea. GPU time on these tasks range from 3 mins to 18 with AP clocking in from 20-40M running single tasks.


I picked up a GeForce 8400 GS card yesterday. Its a 256 MB CUDA compliant card with open GL. I reinstalled SETI and I see nothing to indicate a that it is running the CUDA version. What gives? Looks like the work packet says Seti @home Enhanced 6.3....

I'm running a Windows 7 64bit machine. I installed it as a non-protected software..


Go to the SETI forum. Log in. Click Account, then SETI at Home Preferences (middle of page). Then check to see which are ticked off "Use CPU, Use ATI GPU or Use GPU" You'll want the Nvidia GPU option and maybe CPU if you'd like.


I gave up on that card, took it back. It only met the minimal requirements and Boinc was not picking it up b/c the available memory was reading under 256 mb.


Ah okay. You might want to pick up a used 560ti or something similar. They shouldn't cost more than $200.


No, it's got to be cheap cheap cheap. The card I took back was $10. I don't use my computer for gaming so a the only reason to buy one would be to play with the SETI@home. If I can't pick a card up for no more than $25 then I'm not bothering.

I was just checking through compusa, they got a Zotac gefoce 210 1gig DDR3. I'm thinking that might do.

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Okay, so picked up a EVGA geforce 210 1gig DDR3 for $30


Installed and running. It just made the project times go from 6 hrs down to about 25 minutes. I'm in.
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I miss the days when I could run SETI@home on my second-tier computers and fileservers, just letting it run as a pretty screensaver (the pre-BOINC system).



This, I remember about ten years ago I installed it on ALL the pc's at work and set them to run only after hours, my units CRANKED way up !!

The comptroller was not amused.
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That boinc program is the suck. Finicky about cards regardless of whether they are NVIDIA compliant. It generates errors in the work units if you stop and restart the projects.

I've resorted to pausing the program and uninstalling boinc before I shut down my computer, then I reinstall when I turn my system on. If I don't do this, then the work units will error out when I turn my computer on and boinc restarts. However, I'm not sure it is really working, because it seems like most of the work units become inconclusive after I restart my system the first time.

And no one at SETI seems to be working on fixing the problems.