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So does the LP Standard justify the premium over the LP Classic and LP Traditional models?
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I've had this one for 20yrs now, I'm GTG. http://<a href=http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o276/azsnakeman/DSC_0678_zpsb20f5c8c.jpg View Quote that is one sharp looking Epiphone... OK...couldn't resist! One FINE looking Les Paul...one of the best I have seen. Normally it seems like PRS kicks Gibsons butt on wood....but not yours! Damn nice! |
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that is one sharp looking Epiphone... OK...couldn't resist! One FINE looking Les Paul...one of the best I have seen. Normally it seems like PRS kicks Gibsons butt on wood....but not yours! Damn nice! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I've had this one for 20yrs now, I'm GTG. http://<a href=http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o276/azsnakeman/DSC_0678_zpsb20f5c8c.jpg that is one sharp looking Epiphone... OK...couldn't resist! One FINE looking Les Paul...one of the best I have seen. Normally it seems like PRS kicks Gibsons butt on wood....but not yours! Damn nice! Thanks. It says Gibson on the truss rod cover! Is it the cut of the horn that gives it away? I'm more of a Fender guy, though I do own this, a Heritage 535 and a Heritage 137. |
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So what makes a Les Paul worth: $2,500 more than a Japanese Ibanez? $3,000 more than an American Strat? $2,000 more than a Carvin? Thinking you gotta be nuts to shell out that kind of scratch on one of these things. View Quote I wouldn't pay the current prices for a Gibson. For the amount of money one costs its just not that awesome... |
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So does the LP Standard justify the premium over the LP Classic and LP Traditional models? I agree, I have yet to be impressed by a Gibson product. That's not to say they aren't good instruments, but I don't pick one up, strum a chord and instantly think to myself "oh, that's why this hunk of shit costs 2.5k" |
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http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t151/sleepdr/8E970377-7B1F-4F3B-A6FD-332030D7B4D6_zpsxrhjeup1.jpg Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote I am feeling warm and tingly.... I will be in my rack has anyone seen the Kleenex? |
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I am feeling warm and tingly.... I will be in my rack has anyone seen the Kleenex? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t151/sleepdr/8E970377-7B1F-4F3B-A6FD-332030D7B4D6_zpsxrhjeup1.jpg Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I am feeling warm and tingly.... I will be in my rack has anyone seen the Kleenex? It plays every bit as great as it looks. It just sits in the closet, and hadn't been played for 4-5 years before the owner let me borrow it for a few days. There's a little chip on the finish, but otherwise it's one of the nicest Artist Custom 22s I've seen or handled. At my skill level, it's similar to playing Chopsitcks on a Steinway. Incidentally, I have done just that in an empty auditorium, btw. |
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Quoted: I am feeling warm and tingly.... I will be in my rack has anyone seen the Kleenex? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t151/sleepdr/8E970377-7B1F-4F3B-A6FD-332030D7B4D6_zpsxrhjeup1.jpg Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I am feeling warm and tingly.... I will be in my rack has anyone seen the Kleenex? Seriously? What's so great about it? I always thought those PRS guitars looked gay.
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[#16]
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Seriously? What's so great about it? I always thought those PRS guitars looked gay. View Quote Do you even play bro? :) OK...joking aside PRS uses amazing wood. They basically got everyone else back to making guitars that looked great with maple tops that were to die for. Gibson COULD have been using wood like this but chose not to in the 70's and 80's which resulted in plain - no figure, multi piece tops that in all honesty sucked. Another example is rosewood. Gibson is using baked maple on a number of their guitars, as well as others rather than rosewood. Sorry but these boards to not sound or feel the same. Don't get me wrong..I love Gibson guitars...but they have lost their fucking minds. Their customer service is NON-EXISTANT. PRS on the other hand is incredible. It will take Gibson losing market share as has happened in the past for them to wake up again. Right now there are too many non-players ...i.,e...collectors ...that are willing to buy a Gibson at any cost...driving up the prices for the true lovers...the musicians. this has happened in the past....nothing new here |
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Do you even play bro? :) OK...joking aside PRS uses amazing wood. They basically got everyone else back to making guitars that looked great with maple tops that were to die for. Gibson COULD have been using wood like this but chose not to in the 70's and 80's which resulted in plain - no figure, multi piece tops that in all honesty sucked. Another example is rosewood. Gibson is using baked maple on a number of their guitars, as well as others rather than rosewood. Sorry but these boards to not sound or feel the same. Don't get me wrong..I love Gibson guitars...but they have lost their fucking minds. Their customer service is NON-EXISTANT. PRS on the other hand is incredible. It will take Gibson losing market share as has happened in the past for them to wake up again. Right now there are too many non-players ...i.,e...collectors ...that are willing to buy a Gibson at any cost...driving up the prices for the true lovers...the musicians. this has happened in the past....nothing new here View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Seriously? What's so great about it? I always thought those PRS guitars looked gay. Do you even play bro? :) OK...joking aside PRS uses amazing wood. They basically got everyone else back to making guitars that looked great with maple tops that were to die for. Gibson COULD have been using wood like this but chose not to in the 70's and 80's which resulted in plain - no figure, multi piece tops that in all honesty sucked. Another example is rosewood. Gibson is using baked maple on a number of their guitars, as well as others rather than rosewood. Sorry but these boards to not sound or feel the same. Don't get me wrong..I love Gibson guitars...but they have lost their fucking minds. Their customer service is NON-EXISTANT. PRS on the other hand is incredible. It will take Gibson losing market share as has happened in the past for them to wake up again. Right now there are too many non-players ...i.,e...collectors ...that are willing to buy a Gibson at any cost...driving up the prices for the true lovers...the musicians. this has happened in the past....nothing new here I forgot about this. Reminds me of "Richlite", a synthetic ebony fretboard or some such nonsense that they were/are using on some guitars. |
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Quoted:I played a few and they universally felt as well made as a Gibson Melody Maker. View Quote HEY!. I have a Melody Maker that is superb. Action is great, and tone is amazing for a single, single coil pickup. Bought it for my daughter to learn on... Now, she's not allowed to touch that one... Went and grabbed an Epi LP Jr for her. That one sounds sufficiently dead that I am willing to sacrifice it. |
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Quoted: Do you even play bro? :) OK...joking aside PRS uses amazing wood. They basically got everyone else back to making guitars that looked great with maple tops that were to die for. Gibson COULD have been using wood like this but chose not to in the 70's and 80's which resulted in plain - no figure, multi piece tops that in all honesty sucked. Another example is rosewood. Gibson is using baked maple on a number of their guitars, as well as others rather than rosewood. Sorry but these boards to not sound or feel the same. Don't get me wrong..I love Gibson guitars...but they have lost their fucking minds. Their customer service is NON-EXISTANT. PRS on the other hand is incredible. It will take Gibson losing market share as has happened in the past for them to wake up again. Right now there are too many non-players ...i.,e...collectors ...that are willing to buy a Gibson at any cost...driving up the prices for the true lovers...the musicians. this has happened in the past....nothing new here View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Seriously? What's so great about it? I always thought those PRS guitars looked gay. Do you even play bro? :) OK...joking aside PRS uses amazing wood. They basically got everyone else back to making guitars that looked great with maple tops that were to die for. Gibson COULD have been using wood like this but chose not to in the 70's and 80's which resulted in plain - no figure, multi piece tops that in all honesty sucked. Another example is rosewood. Gibson is using baked maple on a number of their guitars, as well as others rather than rosewood. Sorry but these boards to not sound or feel the same. Don't get me wrong..I love Gibson guitars...but they have lost their fucking minds. Their customer service is NON-EXISTANT. PRS on the other hand is incredible. It will take Gibson losing market share as has happened in the past for them to wake up again. Right now there are too many non-players ...i.,e...collectors ...that are willing to buy a Gibson at any cost...driving up the prices for the true lovers...the musicians. this has happened in the past....nothing new here Nah, Idon't know. They look gay.
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Quoted: When PRS does the gay rainbow stain on a guitar I will agree with you then. Somehow I think that is either on the way or has been done already. hell..after all...they are in Merryland right? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Nah, Idon't know. They look gay. When PRS does the gay rainbow stain on a guitar I will agree with you then. Somehow I think that is either on the way or has been done already. hell..after all...they are in Merryland right? That said, I don't think PRS guitars look gay.....well, maybe that rainbow one......but the rest of them are works of art. |
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They did. Do a Google Image search for PRS rainbow guitar. That said, I don't think PRS guitars look gay.....well, maybe that rainbow one......but the rest of them are works of art. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Nah, Idon't know. They look gay. When PRS does the gay rainbow stain on a guitar I will agree with you then. Somehow I think that is either on the way or has been done already. hell..after all...they are in Merryland right? That said, I don't think PRS guitars look gay.....well, maybe that rainbow one......but the rest of them are works of art. The Al Di Meola "Prism" model? I just had to google it. Compared with some of the other rainbow guitars there, it's arguably tasteful. Not my cup of tea, but I've seen worse. FWIW, I thought the PRS aesthetic was gaudy until spending some time in person with one. It can grow on a guy, even one such as myself who is usually a solid color/black hardware or burst finish/chrome hardware user. |
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The Al Di Meola "Prism" model? I just had to google it. Compared with some of the other rainbow guitars there, it's arguably tasteful. Not my cup of tea, but I've seen worse. FWIW, I thought the PRS aesthetic was gaudy until spending some time in person with one. It can grow on a guy, even one such as myself who is usually a solid color/black hardware or burst finish/chrome hardware user. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Nah, Idon't know. They look gay. When PRS does the gay rainbow stain on a guitar I will agree with you then. Somehow I think that is either on the way or has been done already. hell..after all...they are in Merryland right? That said, I don't think PRS guitars look gay.....well, maybe that rainbow one......but the rest of them are works of art. The Al Di Meola "Prism" model? I just had to google it. Compared with some of the other rainbow guitars there, it's arguably tasteful. Not my cup of tea, but I've seen worse. FWIW, I thought the PRS aesthetic was gaudy until spending some time in person with one. It can grow on a guy, even one such as myself who is usually a solid color/black hardware or burst finish/chrome hardware user. I like guitars that show of the natural beauty of the woods used. |
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Not to hijack badly, but you guys have given me inspiration. I have a craigslist project, a destroyed old Ibanez. It's mostly glued back together and I was pondering what color to use. I whipped up this black-blue-yellow rainbow test pattern today in the garage and am considering painting something like this to showcase the lack of natural beauty. You like it? http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t151/sleepdr/CF1EC6E1-7D01-417A-BEEC-DDF144EA6419_zpsa791oxry.jpg My wife hates the idea, too. I'll probably just do black to pearlized blue, skipping the yellow. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote Work in Finn and Jake from Adventure Time and you have a winner. |
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Quoted: Not to hijack badly, but you guys have given me inspiration. I have a craigslist project, a destroyed old Ibanez. It's mostly glued back together and I was pondering what color to use. I whipped up this black-blue-yellow rainbow test pattern today in the garage and am considering painting something like this to showcase the lack of natural beauty. You like it? http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t151/sleepdr/CF1EC6E1-7D01-417A-BEEC-DDF144EA6419_zpsa791oxry.jpg My wife hates the idea, too. I'll probably just do black to pearlized blue, skipping the yellow. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote Fuck, I could've owned a page in my own thread. |
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I would do a silverburst like the Gibson/Epiphone Thunderhorse Explorer. Fuck, I could've owned a page in my own thread. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Not to hijack badly, but you guys have given me inspiration. I have a craigslist project, a destroyed old Ibanez. It's mostly glued back together and I was pondering what color to use. I whipped up this black-blue-yellow rainbow test pattern today in the garage and am considering painting something like this to showcase the lack of natural beauty. You like it? http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t151/sleepdr/CF1EC6E1-7D01-417A-BEEC-DDF144EA6419_zpsa791oxry.jpg My wife hates the idea, too. I'll probably just do black to pearlized blue, skipping the yellow. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Fuck, I could've owned a page in my own thread. That actually could be fairly sexy, since the guitar has black hardware and will probably get the EMG 81/85 I have lying around somewhere. That means buying more paint, but the Wicked Colors pearl yellow and blue together were only about $15 from Hobby Lobby anyway. |
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ESP changed how their stuff is, ESP is now just made in the custom shop, and E-II is what used to be ESP. So the reason the Hanneman sigs are $5500 is because it's a custom guitar. And don't get me wrong, I love Gibsons, but I really quit giving a shit about the new ones after the lawsuit, and the richlite, and the Dark Tiger (or whatever that abomination was) and the putting tuners on everything thing, ect. Honestly I think Henry Juszkiewicz is trying to run the company into the ground. But my Les Paul is the only guitar I would never get rid of. http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz125/Shot_To_Hell/DSCN2058.jpg http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz125/Shot_To_Hell/DSCN2057.jpg And the '93 Explorer I used to have. http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz125/Shot_To_Hell/10348545_1436107833305850_5749771150298295981_n_zpsb0b84211.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:Look at ESP's pricing too. ESP changed how their stuff is, ESP is now just made in the custom shop, and E-II is what used to be ESP. So the reason the Hanneman sigs are $5500 is because it's a custom guitar. And don't get me wrong, I love Gibsons, but I really quit giving a shit about the new ones after the lawsuit, and the richlite, and the Dark Tiger (or whatever that abomination was) and the putting tuners on everything thing, ect. Honestly I think Henry Juszkiewicz is trying to run the company into the ground. But my Les Paul is the only guitar I would never get rid of. http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz125/Shot_To_Hell/DSCN2058.jpg http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz125/Shot_To_Hell/DSCN2057.jpg And the '93 Explorer I used to have. http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz125/Shot_To_Hell/10348545_1436107833305850_5749771150298295981_n_zpsb0b84211.jpg Does top wrapping the strings on your LP make a big difference in feel? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I've seen better.
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And now we have this version of Hitler flipping out. I've seen better. It had potential, but THERE WAS TOO MUCH OF THIS!!!, griping about the tuner, and adding expletives instead of satire. Many missed opportunities for clever jokes riffing on things like VOS, Ed Roman, the glut of "signature" models, lawsuits against Ibanez/ESP/Heritage/PRS, the hardwood fiasco, the fact that Slash's iconic "'59 Les Paul" Appetite guitar is a replica, etc. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Not really, I just think it looks cool. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:Does top wrapping the strings on your LP make a big difference in feel? Not really, I just think it looks cool. Fair enough. ETA: broke my high E string last night, so I took advantage of the opportunity to lower the bridge and tailpiece a bit, then top wrap. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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The local Guitar Center just got in a new Explorer in Black/white pick guard and it's priced at $1999.
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The local Guitar Center just got in a new Explorer in Black/white pick guard and it's priced at $1999. That's more than double for what they were just 8 years ago. View Quote Flying V's and Explorers should be cheap....a bandsawed mahogany body..... I will be content with my 5 Flying V's.... I still recall buying Flying V's ALL Day long in the 70's and 80's at $300 a pop |
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And I had to replace all of the wiring in mine as it was absolute crap.
Even my Les Paul needed some work.; |
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Quoted: And I had to replace all of the wiring in mine as it was absolute crap. Even my Les Paul needed some work.; View Quote |
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The local Guitar Center just got in a new Explorer in Black/white pick guard and it's priced at $1999. That's more than double for what they were just 8 years ago. View Quote That's nice. I play lefty (The left handed players got hosed bigtime by Gibson this year) and it looks like my only choice.......is a $3500 Les Paul. |
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Is it the 120 year anniversary model? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The local Guitar Center just got in a new Explorer in Black/white pick guard and it's priced at $1999. That's more than double for what they were just 8 years ago. Is it the 120 year anniversary model? It would pretty much have to be... no Explorers in the 2015 lineup from what I can see. |
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Quoted: Flying V's and Explorers should be cheap....a bandsawed mahogany body..... I will be content with my 5 Flying V's.... I still recall buying Flying V's ALL Day long in the 70's and 80's at $300 a pop View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The local Guitar Center just got in a new Explorer in Black/white pick guard and it's priced at $1999. That's more than double for what they were just 8 years ago. Flying V's and Explorers should be cheap....a bandsawed mahogany body..... I will be content with my 5 Flying V's.... I still recall buying Flying V's ALL Day long in the 70's and 80's at $300 a pop |
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The local Guitar Center just got in a new Explorer in Black/white pick guard and it's priced at $1999. That's more than double for what they were just 8 years ago. Flying V's and Explorers should be cheap....a bandsawed mahogany body..... I will be content with my 5 Flying V's.... I still recall buying Flying V's ALL Day long in the 70's and 80's at $300 a pop Not so much in the 80's |
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That's nice. I play lefty (The left handed players got hosed bigtime by Gibson this year) and it looks like my only choice.......is a $3500 Les Paul. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The local Guitar Center just got in a new Explorer in Black/white pick guard and it's priced at $1999. That's more than double for what they were just 8 years ago. That's nice. I play lefty (The left handed players got hosed bigtime by Gibson this year) and it looks like my only choice.......is a $3500 Les Paul. Yup... I should've gotten a lefty SGJ when they were sub-500 bucks a while back. I could've sprayed some gloss Nitro on it myself & called it done. Gibson really pulled the rug out from under people recently. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The local Guitar Center just got in a new Explorer in Black/white pick guard and it's priced at $1999. That's more than double for what they were just 8 years ago. Flying V's and Explorers should be cheap....a bandsawed mahogany body..... I will be content with my 5 Flying V's.... I still recall buying Flying V's ALL Day long in the 70's and 80's at $300 a pop Not so much in the 80's I played that ax for 10 years and sold it for more than I paid for it. |
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Yup... I should've gotten a lefty SGJ when they were sub-500 bucks a while back. I could've sprayed some gloss Nitro on it myself & called it done. Gibson really pulled the rug out from under people recently. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The local Guitar Center just got in a new Explorer in Black/white pick guard and it's priced at $1999. That's more than double for what they were just 8 years ago. That's nice. I play lefty (The left handed players got hosed bigtime by Gibson this year) and it looks like my only choice.......is a $3500 Les Paul. Yup... I should've gotten a lefty SGJ when they were sub-500 bucks a while back. I could've sprayed some gloss Nitro on it myself & called it done. Gibson really pulled the rug out from under people recently. The Sam Ash store in Cincinnati had a lefty LPJ for under 500$ when I was in there Tuesday. I am not a lefty, but was shopping lefties for my daughter... Neck and action felt good and it sounded pretty nice plugged through an AC15C1. I bet they still have it. Could swing by on Friday and get photos and such for you if you like. Edit to add: Samash.com has the LPJ listed in "satin red' or their 'satin goldtop' for 429$ as a lefty. I know it isn't an SG... but tempting price for a lefty. If I knew for a fact my lefty kid were going to stick with playing guitar long term, I'd probably grab her one. |
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Well, Musician's Friend now has the 2015 Les Paul Standard posted.MSRP: $6265, MF Price: $3759.00!!! http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/gibson-2015-les-paul-standard-electric-guitar View Quote Jesus, I priced out a loaded custom ESP and it came out less than that MSRP. |
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From cruising a bit today it appears the Studio's haven't gone quite full retard... about 1300$.... But, no hardshell case and the finish colors are lacking.
Best buy of the 2015's looks to be the SG standard.... 1900$ from what I can see. LesPaul standards nearing 4k?... yeah... nice guitar.... very nice guitar... but triple a Studio for bindings and paint?... No thanks. Hate to say it Gibson... I think I'll take a pass on even considering new Gibsons if this is the future. My current 3 will hold me for the foreseeable future. |
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