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Posted: 8/22/2016 12:55:35 PM EDT
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For sure. When does that premiere?
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Posted: 8/22/2016 2:02:46 PM EDT
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Projected release September 2016.
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Posted: 8/22/2016 5:46:34 PM EDT
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I want to see it
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Posted: 8/23/2016 12:00:50 PM EDT
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I'll watch it.
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Posted: 8/23/2016 3:08:08 PM EDT
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I'm sure it'll be entertaining.
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Posted: 8/25/2016 9:54:35 PM EDT
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I know if someone asked if I had personal problems after I dead stick in a transport category airplane, I'd tell him he's going to look funny trying to eat corn on the cob with no fucking teeth.
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Posted: 8/25/2016 10:16:38 PM EDT
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I know if someone asked if I had personal problems after I dead stick in a transport category airplane, I'd tell him he's going to look funny trying to eat corn on the cob with no fucking teeth. I didn't realize that he caught flack for his landing...........if true, what a bunch of second guessing schmucks. |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 10:26:19 PM EDT
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I didn't realize that he caught flack for his landing...........if true, what a bunch of second guessing schmucks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know if someone asked if I had personal problems after I dead stick in a transport category airplane, I'd tell him he's going to look funny trying to eat corn on the cob with no fucking teeth. I didn't realize that he caught flack for his landing...........if true, what a bunch of second guessing schmucks. It's the nature of the game. |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 10:33:24 PM EDT
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"One way of looking at this might be that for 42 years, I've been making small, regular deposits in this bank of experience, education and training. And on January 15 the balance was sufficient so that I could make a very large withdrawal."
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Posted: 8/25/2016 11:07:25 PM EDT
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"One way of looking at this might be that for 42 years, I've been making small, regular deposits in this bank of experience, education and training. And on January 15 the balance was sufficient so that I could make a very large withdrawal." damn, that is lyrical. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 6:39:37 AM EDT
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I guess what bothers me is the claim that Sully could have turned around in the air and made it back to the field. It was impressed upon me in the Navy flight school that that was a big time no-no. I'm sure if he had turned around he would have landed short in the middle of Queens and killed a bunch of folks.
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Posted: 8/26/2016 11:20:56 AM EDT
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I guess what bothers me is the claim that Sully could have turned around in the air and made it back to the field. It was impressed upon me in the Navy flight school that that was a big time no-no. I'm sure if he had turned around he would have landed short in the middle of Queens and killed a bunch of folks. I would guess that much of the second-guessing in the movie is designed for dramatic tension, and is justified by poetic license. That said, Sully was lucky and good. Most people who survive crashes that aren't their fault are usually only one or the other. Thus, there is plenty of grey space for the MMQB Brigade to explore. Add to the this fact that most pilots involved in serious crashes AREN'T there to defend themselves, will always make the pilots the prime target of blame in all but the most egregious cases of mechanical failure or outside insult. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 11:21:47 AM EDT
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damn, that is lyrical. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"One way of looking at this might be that for 42 years, I've been making small, regular deposits in this bank of experience, education and training. And on January 15 the balance was sufficient so that I could make a very large withdrawal." damn, that is lyrical. It also represents a model of aviation that is being hunted to extinction on multiple fronts. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 9:11:16 PM EDT
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Heard from old line pilots, QB's when it happened that perhaps if they had their heads outside the cockpit
they could of avoided the birds? Have no idea, just putting it out there. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 9:25:20 PM EDT
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I would guess that much of the second-guessing in the movie is designed for dramatic tension, and is justified by poetic license. That said, Sully was lucky and good. Most people who survive crashes that aren't their fault are usually only one or the other. Thus, there is plenty of grey space for the MMQB Brigade to explore. Add to the this fact that most pilots involved in serious crashes AREN'T there to defend themselves, will always make the pilots the prime target of blame in all but the most egregious cases of mechanical failure or outside insult. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I guess what bothers me is the claim that Sully could have turned around in the air and made it back to the field. It was impressed upon me in the Navy flight school that that was a big time no-no. I'm sure if he had turned around he would have landed short in the middle of Queens and killed a bunch of folks. I would guess that much of the second-guessing in the movie is designed for dramatic tension, and is justified by poetic license. That said, Sully was lucky and good. Most people who survive crashes that aren't their fault are usually only one or the other. Thus, there is plenty of grey space for the MMQB Brigade to explore. Add to the this fact that most pilots involved in serious crashes AREN'T there to defend themselves, will always make the pilots the prime target of blame in all but the most egregious cases of mechanical failure or outside insult. As for luck, I think Louis CK said it best in how he described it. I can't find the clip, but he's talking about how it was a miracle and how it was in God's hands that everybody survived. "Would you give the guy some credit!? God didn't save the airplane, the pilot did. ...... God threw the geese into the engines." |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 9:38:25 PM EDT
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Heard from old line pilots, QB's when it happened that perhaps if they had their heads outside the cockpit they could of avoided the birds? Have no idea, just putting it out there. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 9:45:21 PM EDT
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Heard from old line pilots, QB's when it happened that perhaps if they had their heads outside the cockpit they could of avoided the birds? Have no idea, just putting it out there. Crap happens, we have been hitting birds long before glass cockpits and autopilot. From my little experience in that airplane, that phase of flight the pilot is actually at the controls and likely heads out. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 10:22:41 PM EDT
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Any HR hired new guy could do it
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Posted: 8/27/2016 12:21:14 AM EDT
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Heard from old line pilots, QB's when it happened that perhaps if they had their heads outside the cockpit they could of avoided the birds? Have no idea, just putting it out there. Depends. If the B1-RDs were higher they for whatever reason tend to dive from something I read years ago.. Ive never read if the flock was higher than the aircraft, but I'm sure like always, it is last second before you see them depending on atmospheric conditions if you see them at all. Try seeing them at night. I hit what I would guess was a Canadian goose at 1am, thankfully I only hit 1. It smashed the fuck out of the caravan wing outboard of the radar radome. I would guess I just missed a bunch more. |
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Posted: 8/27/2016 3:02:39 AM EDT
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Heard from old line pilots, QB's when it happened that perhaps if they had their heads outside the cockpit they could of avoided the birds? Have no idea, just putting it out there. Wanna know how much time I had to react when I had my two major bird strikes? Zero! 
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Posted: 8/27/2016 4:07:20 AM EDT
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Any HR hired new guy could do it |
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Posted: 8/27/2016 10:31:39 AM EDT
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Wanna know how much time I had to react when I had my two major bird strikes? Zero! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Heard from old line pilots, QB's when it happened that perhaps if they had their heads outside the cockpit they could of avoided the birds? Have no idea, just putting it out there. Wanna know how much time I had to react when I had my two major bird strikes? Zero! Profile descent into LAX 14,000' 350KIAS looking straight out the windshield.....BOOM...blood, guts etc. Never saw the bird, just the splat. Takeoff roll HOU RW 22 125KIAS flock of birds in left engine...KA-BOOM....ABORT ILS final DAL RW31L at night .....BOOM, SPLAT, BOOM, BOOM. Goose co-pilots windshield. Goose right engine. Mega stank in A/C. Low levels in C-130 results in bird strikes all the time. In my younger days doing AG flying I had a swarm/flock of small birds flush out of the cotton field right in front of me. The Super Cub had both cowl inlets filled with smoldering bird carcasses roasting against the hot cylinders. Burnt feathers and guts were coming out the cowl outlets on both sides. All the leading edges were splattered with blood and guts. The windshield was covered. Bird entrails were flapping in the slipstream from the struts and tail wires. The field I was flying had a landing strip right next to it so I was able to land immediately. I would not have been able to fly any distance before the engine would have severely over heated. Those helium filled party balloons are another thing that will make you soil your britches at 350 KIAS when one instantly fills the windshield. |
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Posted: 8/27/2016 9:14:47 PM EDT
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Geese are known to dive on aircraft flying below as a defensive measure. It's been said that you should not fly underneath a flock. Birds also look for lift. If there's bird activity and there are clouds with flat bottoms, pass where it is sunny as the birds frequently circle under the cloud bases for the extra lift (likewise, if you're at altitude and want to gain a little extra speed, fly under the cloud bases as you can pull a little additional speed by flying through the rising air).
I've had a hawk pass between my prop and wing root. Balloons, especially those metallic ones when they catch a glimmer of sunlight will scare the shit out of you. One of the most dangerous things I ever did in a car happened when driving down the Interstate I see a balloon at eye level just sitting over the road -- probably had one of those weighted things on it. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 12:49:52 PM EDT
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Has anybody else ever know eagles to be aggressive? I was flying just north of Minneapolis a couple of weeks ago and an eagle just came right at me. At first I thought it was a small plane far away because it never flapped it wings. Luckily, we went left and it went right so no strike. I'd never seen an eagle that close. Those are huge birds!
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Posted: 8/28/2016 2:02:25 PM EDT
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Has anybody else ever know eagles to be aggressive? I was flying just north of Minneapolis a couple of weeks ago and an eagle just came right at me. At first I thought it was a small plane far away because it never flapped it wings. Luckily, we went left and it went right so no strike. I'd never seen an eagle that close. Those are huge birds! They'll fly closer to me to check me out. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 3:14:13 PM EDT
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I know two different people who have hit bald eagles in Alaska.
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Posted: 8/28/2016 4:45:00 PM EDT
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It also represents a model of aviation that is being hunted to extinction on multiple fronts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"One way of looking at this might be that for 42 years, I've been making small, regular deposits in this bank of experience, education and training. And on January 15 the balance was sufficient so that I could make a very large withdrawal." damn, that is lyrical. It also represents a model of aviation that is being hunted to extinction on multiple fronts. Now that also is lyrical, and true. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 11:05:39 PM EDT
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Has anybody else ever know eagles to be aggressive? I was flying just north of Minneapolis a couple of weeks ago and an eagle just came right at me. At first I thought it was a small plane far away because it never flapped it wings. Luckily, we went left and it went right so no strike. I'd never seen an eagle that close. Those are huge birds! Friend of mine told me a story about flying gliders in Germany as a teenager and had Eagles form up with him on each wing. I believe someone here posted a story about flying a C130 and having a Hawk look back at them with a "Fuck you, I'm not moving" look. |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 12:37:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/29/2016 2:48:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/30/2016 1:31:19 AM EDT
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Has anybody else ever know eagles to be aggressive? I was flying just north of Minneapolis a couple of weeks ago and an eagle just came right at me. At first I thought it was a small plane far away because it never flapped it wings. Luckily, we went left and it went right so no strike. I'd never seen an eagle that close. Those are huge birds! The ones around DC think they own the place. They expect you to get out of the way! Fortunately, they are usually big enough to see a decent way away. Sparrows on the other hand, I've had a couple of them explode on the windscreen before I knew what was happening. |
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Posted: 8/30/2016 1:52:34 AM EDT
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The ones around DC think they own the place. They expect you to get out of the way! Fortunately, they are usually big enough to see a decent way away. Sparrows on the other hand, I've had a couple of them explode on the windscreen before I knew what was happening. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Has anybody else ever know eagles to be aggressive? I was flying just north of Minneapolis a couple of weeks ago and an eagle just came right at me. At first I thought it was a small plane far away because it never flapped it wings. Luckily, we went left and it went right so no strike. I'd never seen an eagle that close. Those are huge birds! The ones around DC think they own the place. They expect you to get out of the way! Fortunately, they are usually big enough to see a decent way away. Sparrows on the other hand, I've had a couple of them explode on the windscreen before I knew what was happening. Eagles in SE AK will dive at you talons out, wings back they're so territorial. I've had many a near-miss with them. Beautiful birds when I'm on the ground, assholes in the air. I don't think they could have done anything to miss the birds besides not take off. I do remember FSI instructors talking about the incident years ago saying that around 50% of those who turned back in the sim made the runway. Sully made the right call. |
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Posted: 8/30/2016 2:40:24 AM EDT
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Eagles in SE AK will dive at you talons out, wings back they're so territorial. I've had many a near-miss with them. Beautiful birds when I'm on the ground, assholes in the air. I don't think they could have done anything to miss the birds besides not take off. I do remember FSI instructors talking about the incident years ago saying that around 50% of those who turned back in the sim made the runway. Sully made the right call. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Has anybody else ever know eagles to be aggressive? I was flying just north of Minneapolis a couple of weeks ago and an eagle just came right at me. At first I thought it was a small plane far away because it never flapped it wings. Luckily, we went left and it went right so no strike. I'd never seen an eagle that close. Those are huge birds! The ones around DC think they own the place. They expect you to get out of the way! Fortunately, they are usually big enough to see a decent way away. Sparrows on the other hand, I've had a couple of them explode on the windscreen before I knew what was happening. Eagles in SE AK will dive at you talons out, wings back they're so territorial. I've had many a near-miss with them. Beautiful birds when I'm on the ground, assholes in the air. I don't think they could have done anything to miss the birds besides not take off. I do remember FSI instructors talking about the incident years ago saying that around 50% of those who turned back in the sim made the runway. Sully made the right call. Never hit one, but a bald Eagle was part of the single coolest thing I've seen in an airplane. Way back when (early 80's) I started flying gliders. I made several flights in a Blanik L-13. One of my first few flights, we had just entered a thermal in a left turn, with the instructor flying. Off the right wing, I noticed a Bald eagle, flying a nice finger formation, right off the wing. BIG bird! It stayed with us for 180 degrees of turn or so, looking us over the whole way. Then it broke right, and was gone. Totally cool to this then 14 year old pilot wannabe. How I wish I'd had a camera. |
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