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Posted: 6/18/2017 7:55:05 PM EDT
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I had to have mine done last winter. Temps in the low 30's so I needed to have it done quickly. 125 feet $2850 and I had them bury a tracer wire. The price you got would be about right in non hurry up scenario. Just make sure they bury a tracer wire. If they don't and you need to have the lines marked in th future, they won't be able to find them if there are plastic
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Posted: 6/18/2017 9:02:44 PM EDT
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Is it before the meter? Most plastic lines are feed for meter and the gas company owns them. Your side of the meter should be black pipe or the new plastic covered stuff.
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Posted: 6/18/2017 9:54:36 PM EDT
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OP, your post is a little unclear. You're getting gas line installed from the gas main at the street to your meter? Or you're getting gas line installed after your meter to somewhere on your property or house?
If it's on the utility side, the polypropylene pipe is normal. On your end, just use the black iron pipe and you'll be fine. One thing I will strongly suggest though, some plumbers may elect to use MegaPress fittings. I actually have some in my own house and their work great. However, for a new install of iron pipe, I would insist on threading. The reason why is because if somewhere down the road you need to tie in another line, or whatever, it will be far easier to do this with threaded pipe. MegaPress works great, but in my opinion it's good if you need some kind of a patch job done. Hope this helps. |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 10:01:29 PM EDT
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OP, your post is a little unclear. You're getting gas line installed from the gas main at the street to your meter? Or you're getting gas line installed after your meter to somewhere on your property or house? If it's on the utility side, the polypropylene pipe is normal. On your end, just use the black iron pipe and you'll be fine. One thing I will strongly suggest though, some plumbers may elect to use MegaPress fittings. I actually have some in my own house and their work great. However, for a new install of iron pipe, I would insist on threading. The reason why is because if somewhere down the road you need to tie in another line, or whatever, it will be far easier to do this with threaded pipe. MegaPress works great, but in my opinion it's good if you need some kind of a patch job done. Hope this helps. My meter is at the street... I need from there to the house. The guy with estimate was recommended by the gas company. I'm assuming he's doing it per their specs. ETA... I'm on a private gas well that feeds my street.. the main is steel too. This is rural. The gas company is 4 people and has a bunch of wells all over this area with similar setups dating way back. |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 10:26:04 PM EDT
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Interesting about the private gas wells. For back up power you can have a generator that runs on gas.
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Posted: 6/19/2017 1:22:07 AM EDT
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Interesting about the private gas wells. For back up power you can have a generator that runs on gas.  ... even though I can turn the gas back on myself.... the leak wasn't detectable by smell. Ever spring they they test everyone's lines with a sniffer as a courtesy. Better to find out now, than in Jan.
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Posted: 6/19/2017 11:48:42 AM EDT
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Yup, I do. It's the one thing I count on working, except this week. ... even though I can turn the gas back on myself.... the leak wasn't detectable by smell. Ever spring they they test everyone's lines with a sniffer as a courtesy. Better to find out now, than in Jan. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interesting about the private gas wells. For back up power you can have a generator that runs on gas. ... even though I can turn the gas back on myself.... the leak wasn't detectable by smell. Ever spring they they test everyone's lines with a sniffer as a courtesy. Better to find out now, than in Jan. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 5:02:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/19/2017 5:04:23 PM EDT
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I had to have mine done last winter. Temps in the low 30's so I needed to have it done quickly. 125 feet $2850 and I had them bury a tracer wire. The price you got would be about right in non hurry up scenario. Just make sure they bury a tracer wire. If they don't and you need to have the lines marked in th future, they won't be able to find them if there are plastic |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 5:06:50 PM EDT
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Who is oderizing the gas and where? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interesting about the private gas wells. For back up power you can have a generator that runs on gas. ... even though I can turn the gas back on myself.... the leak wasn't detectable by smell. Ever spring they they test everyone's lines with a sniffer as a courtesy. Better to find out now, than in Jan. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 7:36:59 PM EDT
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Damn. Our gas company runs our line from the street to the meter for free.
But the shit head gas contractor wanted $2500 to run 1/2 galvanized four feet from the meter and three feet into the kitchen to the stove. My AC guy told me to do it and he would inspect and sign off. 
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Posted: 6/19/2017 8:26:17 PM EDT
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Damn. Our gas company runs our line from the street to the meter for free. But the shit head gas contractor wanted $2500 to run 1/2 galvanized four feet from the meter and three feet into the kitchen to the stove. My AC guy told me to do it and he would inspect and sign off. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 9:26:09 PM EDT
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It's polyethylene (PE) not polypropylene
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Posted: 6/20/2017 12:13:50 PM EDT
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The meter is at the street attached to the main and my line. I am responsible for the portion between the meter and my house. Its about 60 feet long and goes under my driveway. |
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Posted: 6/20/2017 7:51:08 PM EDT
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OK. That makes sense now. Our meters are up against our houses here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The meter is at the street attached to the main and my line. I am responsible for the portion between the meter and my house. Its about 60 feet long and goes under my driveway. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 5:07:54 PM EDT
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talked to a couple gas line guys. they all wanted $1000.
The first guy I liked the best, so I called him back and asked how much is it if I pay in cash. he said $900. OK I'm good with that. One call has it marked, just waiting for him to fit me in. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 8:05:56 PM EDT
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Damn. Our gas company runs our line from the street to the meter for free. But the shit head gas contractor wanted $2500 to run 1/2 galvanized four feet from the meter and three feet into the kitchen to the stove. My AC guy told me to do it and he would inspect and sign off. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 8:21:11 PM EDT
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Don't use galvanized pipe for gas lines. Use black iron. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn. Our gas company runs our line from the street to the meter for free. But the shit head gas contractor wanted $2500 to run 1/2 galvanized four feet from the meter and three feet into the kitchen to the stove. My AC guy told me to do it and he would inspect and sign off. [gas lead lineman, A service [meter to house, all house piping + HVAC and white good repair] for several decades at a utility company. The only reason people still install black pipe is because it's cheaper and you get a higher profit margin. We still use black pipe on the larger stuff and the welded stands but it MUST be painted. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 8:37:34 PM EDT
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Poppycock, galvanized is all we use and we got away from black pipe 20 years ago. [gas lead lineman, A service [meter to house, all house piping + HVAC and white good repair] for several decades at a utility company. The only reason people still install black pipe is because it's cheaper and you get a higher profit margin. We still use black pipe on the larger stuff and the welded stands but it MUST be painted. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 8:42:38 PM EDT
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Believe it or not we are not allowed to use galivinized pipe in Ohio, it will fail inspection. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Poppycock, galvanized is all we use and we got away from black pipe 20 years ago. [gas lead lineman, A service [meter to house, all house piping + HVAC and white good repair] for several decades at a utility company. The only reason people still install black pipe is because it's cheaper and you get a higher profit margin. We still use black pipe on the larger stuff and the welded stands but it MUST be painted. I know people say that the galvanizing flakes off but after blowing out old gas lines inside and out for decades, the shit black pipe can have in it can't be any better. Personally, I don't see flaking, I see metal shavings from people cutting threads and not cleaning the swarf out before putting it together. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 9:05:43 PM EDT
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Anode
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Posted: 6/22/2017 8:30:20 PM EDT
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Older pipe dope can trip the sniffer
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Posted: 6/22/2017 11:26:47 PM EDT
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Perfectly fine in Michigan. I know people say that the galvanizing flakes off but after blowing out old gas lines inside and out for decades, the shit black pipe can have in it can't be any better. Personally, I don't see flaking, I see metal shavings from people cutting threads and not cleaning the swarf out before putting it together. The ban on galavanized is not very conducive to what I see in the field. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 5:25:46 PM EDT
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there is a little shed right at the wellhead. I suppose it gets done there, because it smells like regular big company gas. the BTU content of this gas is higher than normal too, because it never gets separated like a traditional gas separation plant would do for mass distribution where they pull out the methane, butane and other marketable by-products. There is a small water separation tower right next to the well and I've seen the workers blowing drips as they call it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interesting about the private gas wells. For back up power you can have a generator that runs on gas. ... even though I can turn the gas back on myself.... the leak wasn't detectable by smell. Ever spring they they test everyone's lines with a sniffer as a courtesy. Better to find out now, than in Jan. They pull out Helium and other gasses. Sulfur and water are two common contaminants. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 7:36:03 PM EDT
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Most of the usable gas is methane. They pull out Helium and other gasses. Sulfur and water are two common contaminants. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interesting about the private gas wells. For back up power you can have a generator that runs on gas. ... even though I can turn the gas back on myself.... the leak wasn't detectable by smell. Ever spring they they test everyone's lines with a sniffer as a courtesy. Better to find out now, than in Jan. They pull out Helium and other gasses. Sulfur and water are two common contaminants. It was explained to me by several HVAC people over the years that this gas is different in BTU content than the gas that has been scrubbed. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 8:05:07 PM EDT
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OK, thanks for the clarification. It was explained to me by several HVAC people over the years that this gas is different in BTU content than the gas that has been scrubbed. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 8:36:23 PM EDT
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Its OK, your still good people. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OK, thanks for the clarification. It was explained to me by several HVAC people over the years that this gas is different in BTU content than the gas that has been scrubbed. 
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Posted: 6/26/2017 1:19:31 PM EDT
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OK, thanks for the clarification. It was explained to me by several HVAC people over the years that this gas is different in BTU content than the gas that has been scrubbed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interesting about the private gas wells. For back up power you can have a generator that runs on gas. ... even though I can turn the gas back on myself.... the leak wasn't detectable by smell. Ever spring they they test everyone's lines with a sniffer as a courtesy. Better to find out now, than in Jan. They pull out Helium and other gasses. Sulfur and water are two common contaminants. It was explained to me by several HVAC people over the years that this gas is different in BTU content than the gas that has been scrubbed. All you need to do is remove two hydrogen atoms to make ethylene [C2H4] without breaking the carbon bond. An important plastic feed stock with double bonded carbon atoms for making Polyethylene (C2H4)n with huge chains of carbon atoms. One of the most used plastics. |
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Posted: 6/26/2017 7:29:57 PM EDT
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Ethane C2H6 is removed since it has slightly less heat content and is more valuable as feed stock for plastic manufacture. All you need to do is remove two hydrogen atoms to make ethylene [C2H4] without breaking the carbon bond. An important plastic feed stock with double bonded carbon atoms for making Polyethylene (C2H4)n with huge chains of carbon atoms. One of the most used plastics. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interesting about the private gas wells. For back up power you can have a generator that runs on gas. ... even though I can turn the gas back on myself.... the leak wasn't detectable by smell. Ever spring they they test everyone's lines with a sniffer as a courtesy. Better to find out now, than in Jan. They pull out Helium and other gasses. Sulfur and water are two common contaminants. It was explained to me by several HVAC people over the years that this gas is different in BTU content than the gas that has been scrubbed. All you need to do is remove two hydrogen atoms to make ethylene [C2H4] without breaking the carbon bond. An important plastic feed stock with double bonded carbon atoms for making Polyethylene (C2H4)n with huge chains of carbon atoms. One of the most used plastics. |
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Posted: 6/26/2017 7:31:59 PM EDT
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Just tell the choof OP. You did knot call before you dig.
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Posted: 6/26/2017 8:17:22 PM EDT
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Just tell the choof OP. You did knot call before you dig. the dude called... its all marked out and I haven't seen him since. If I cut the grass one more time, its gonna be gone and so is my contractor. I aint got no problem firing a bullshitter. |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 3:41:48 PM EDT
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They are building a new cracker plant here... perhaps you should work there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interesting about the private gas wells. For back up power you can have a generator that runs on gas. ... even though I can turn the gas back on myself.... the leak wasn't detectable by smell. Ever spring they they test everyone's lines with a sniffer as a courtesy. Better to find out now, than in Jan. They pull out Helium and other gasses. Sulfur and water are two common contaminants. It was explained to me by several HVAC people over the years that this gas is different in BTU content than the gas that has been scrubbed. All you need to do is remove two hydrogen atoms to make ethylene [C2H4] without breaking the carbon bond. An important plastic feed stock with double bonded carbon atoms for making Polyethylene (C2H4)n with huge chains of carbon atoms. One of the most used plastics. I have had MS for 29 years and am 57 now. made it about 26 years before I had to retire. I have consulted with a number of companies and their Chemical Engineers on instrumentation for petrochemical plants. Industry has caught up pretty well with standards for various measurements. Ten years ago some of it was primitive for specialized instruments. HP developed a whole lot of absolute pressure measuring sensors. Omega did some great work on temperature measurement using thermocouples and even some resistive sensors. Just about every large pant still winds up with at least some custom equipment though. Someone has to design and build the 'one offs.' |
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