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Sure those aren't load bearing walls?
Might be why you have those drops. Eta: if the wall supports the roof or the floor above it, there will be a header over any openings, which would explain those dropped areas. Can't really remove that header without redesigning the second floor structure. |
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[#5]
Looking at where the stair opening is, I'm pretty sure both of those walls are load bearing.
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OP six months from now: No idea why all my walls have cracks in the corners, any thoughts?
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[#9]
If you have to ask that question you should not be doing what you're doing.
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[#10]
Cut some sheetrock out of the space above the door. If you only have a couble of 2x4s going horizontal, you're good to go. If it's 2x4 + 2x10 + 2x4, stop and patch up your sheetrock.
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[#15]
Pffffffft. Walls. Who needs 'em!
In all seriousness OP, you do. They look load bearing to me. |
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[#16]
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The 2nd floor joists run parallel with the wall and entrance way I'm working on. There is a load bearing wall marked with the X and a beam here: http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/oo59/TheRealBlueMule50/IMG_7137_zps6nl9ltos.jpg View Quote |
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[#18]
Appears beam is bearing but entrance to sitting room is GTG. Most openings bearing or not have min. 2x8 headers. At least that's code where I am.
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[#19]
Since you have a second story, it's likely all your interior wall are load bearing.
I wouldn't do that if I were you. |
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[#20]
Suggest you have a real contractor do the initial work; you can save money by doing the finish work yourself. If he looks at what you have opened up there and balks, you have your answer.
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[#25]
If you don't open it up to expose exactly what, where and how the load Bering surfaces are supported you are asking for trouble. Especially in a 2 story home.
Edit: unless you have the drawings ? |
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[#26]
Patch those holes, repaint and tell the old lady to deal with it... Load bearing or not, you're gonna open a can of worms for nothing more than looks...
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[#27]
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After some poking and probing, I found that I don't have jack studs or a header. It's two studs sistered together on each side of the pass-through, and the header is just a 2x4 run across horizontally. Two cripple studs though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
After some poking and probing, I found that I don't have jack studs or a header. It's two studs sistered together on each side of the pass-through, and the header is just a 2x4 run across horizontally. Two cripple studs though. That being said, I'm with you OP. We recently removed an entire wall from our house. The previous homeowner told us it was load-bearing and it couldn't be removed. I thought otherwise, had it checked out by 3 construction guys I know, and got a final look-over from a PE I work with. The truth came when we peeled drywall off the wall; 2X4 headers (even over a 6-foot double door opening) meant if it was supposed to be load-bearing it sure wouldn't actually bear a load. Things to consider when tearing that out: #1 If you're going to go all the way to the ceiling you will have to have the ceiling patched. Textured ceilings are a PITA to patch & blend. We hired one of the best local drywallers and he did an amazing job; you can still see the places the walls were removed if the lighting is right. #2 You will have to relocate any electrical (light-switches, thermostat wires, etc) that are in those walls. If you don't have access to where the wires run from you're going to have to cut holes in the floor or ceiling to be able to drill new holes in the top/bottom of the stud cavity to pass wires through. For me, everything I was doing was accessible but I did have to use some junction boxes in the attic to "extend" wire runs over to where the switches were being relocated to. I would definitely do the work necessary to get the corner like you want it. Don't just leave a 2" wall there. It's not hard to remove the offending stud, cut things back, and toe-nail the stud back in so the wall will be flush. Heck, I added a door into a wall without removing any drywall. Cut drywall to rough opening size, poke sawzall through drywall 3-1/2" above top of opening and cut off any studs that fall in the opening (to make room for 2X4 header), the top portion of those studs will become your cripples, the bottom portion, once trimmed to length, will become your jack-studs. Then slide king-studs up into the wall and nail, then any additional cripples, then the header, then the jack-studs. Patch over the small cuts left by the sawzall and install the door. If that can be done then you can certainly do a corner where 2 walls meet, especially since it will already be missing drywall. Lastly, to the picture below. Be careful with what you do to the one you marked. Depending on where the stairs end that may be a load-bearing wall. The floor joists are cut for the stairs to rise up through and the cut joists are likely bearing onto the walls on each side of the 2nd set of stairs (after they turn the corner). We also had to deal with stairs; our 2nd story is "room in roof" or "room in attic" trusses, the builder cut 2 trusses for the stairs and didn't sister the ones next to the stairs, they just boxed the opening in with 2X12's and nailed them onto the end of the cut trusses. It was shady. While the entire wall we removed was not load-bearing, the 2 king-studs that fell right at the corners of the stair opening most-definitely were carrying load (whether it was designed to or not). We opened the ceiling up, sistered 2X12's onto the ones in the stair opening and spanned them over to the load-bearing wall 4 feet away. When we sistered those 2X12's in we popped some drywall seams where it had clearly started sagging a bit over the years. I used joist-hangers and joist nails where I could and I use Spax high-shear screws to sister them together. It makes me feel a lot better about it now; it's definitely more robust than it was before. Sorry to get long-winded, just be careful near the top of the stairs. Quoted:
Pass-through into the dining room with drop wall unlabeled by MS Paint, but drop wall in the other pass-through labeled; http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/oo59/TheRealBlueMule50/IMG_7139_zps8bydqa5y.jpg |
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If you don't open it up to expose exactly what, where and how the load Bering surfaces are supported you are asking for trouble. Especially in a 2 story home. Edit: unless you have the drawings ? View Quote You cannot rely on plans to ensure framing. |
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[#29]
That looks like a lot of work and mess for a little cosmetic reward imo
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[#30]
Jack studs do not *always* mean it's a load bearing wall.
I had a t-shaped wall in my home with a pocket door and the wall not only had jack studs on both sides but had a 2x4 'box' where the T joint was. Really weird. Non load bearing. |
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That looks like a lot of work and mess for a little cosmetic reward imo View Quote |
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Jack studs do not *always* mean it's a load bearing wall. I had a t-shaped wall in my home with a pocket door and the wall not only had jack studs on both sides but had a 2x4 'box' where the T joint was. Really weird. Non load bearing. View Quote |
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This. These are most likely weight bearing. I wouldn't touch them if I were you. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Jack stud and king stud. Jack stud is under header. These are most likely weight bearing. I wouldn't touch them if I were you. If you must move them, you need to control the weight they are holding in another way.....best conceived by a structural engineer. |
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On openings designed for doors you still use a pair to take the load of the door and the impact of closing the door. View Quote |
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