Posted: 4/26/2016 8:49:55 AM EDT
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Quote History Quoted:To answer your question, it is a regulative vs normative view of worship at its core. Regulative says only what the Lord told us to do, as demonstrated in the Bible in all the verses dealing with worship. Normative meaning if He didn't say don't do it, then it's good. I don't hold to either as I think there is some middle ground. I think the delegated worship should be just that. Worship. Should be ALL about God. When we are trying to make a mood, or set a feeling, or show we are in the moment by raising hands, are we truly worshiping God? I guess someone could be overwhelmed and raise their hand...but I'm betting 90% or more of the time it's because they saw someone else do it and want to. I also understand that when my favorite hymns were introduced, they were " that new music" . Where I attend services now, they play guitars and drums.. but it is toned down. I have been to some churches where I honestly wanted earplugs. I'm old fashioned I guess, but I want respectful worship that isn't about the latest songs, and the coolest music and mood, but about God. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quote History Quoted:Quoted:
Maybe you guys can answer this:
What's the line between "entertainment as worship" and "worship as entertainment"?
A lot of people poo-poo "rock songs" and "happy clappy" songs (as if any emotion is a bad thing) at church. But how about when it's an entertainment setting, such as a concert on a Saturday night at a church, where the performers are playing songs praising the Lord? A old example of this is Handel's Messiah (complete with too many "hallelujahs"), modern examples are say...Rend Collective. I would like to think this is acceptable.
Now why is it unacceptable 12 hours later?
I can understand the issues with a church blowing money on unneeded stuff like stage-lighting and fog machines, but many people condemn all of it, including the use of certain instruments (which are owned by the musicians) and musical genres.
No one who attacks modern worship can seem to answer this, or even define where their "line" is. To answer your question, it is a regulative vs normative view of worship at its core. Regulative says only what the Lord told us to do, as demonstrated in the Bible in all the verses dealing with worship. Normative meaning if He didn't say don't do it, then it's good. I don't hold to either as I think there is some middle ground. I think the delegated worship should be just that. Worship. Should be ALL about God. When we are trying to make a mood, or set a feeling, or show we are in the moment by raising hands, are we truly worshiping God? I guess someone could be overwhelmed and raise their hand...but I'm betting 90% or more of the time it's because they saw someone else do it and want to. I also understand that when my favorite hymns were introduced, they were " that new music" . Where I attend services now, they play guitars and drums.. but it is toned down. I have been to some churches where I honestly wanted earplugs. I'm old fashioned I guess, but I want respectful worship that isn't about the latest songs, and the coolest music and mood, but about God. Speaking of verses, Psalm 33 and 150, as well as the encouragement to "sing a new song". But some want to saddle people with singing the same old songs the same old way. Yet they cannot say what about the music is wrong. I even had a guy tell me that "swooping sounds", which he couldn't quantify whatsover, were of Satan. To me, calling any song that praises the Lord satanic is waaay to close to blasphemy of the Holy Spirit for me to be comfortable with.
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