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Posted: 4/21/2016 7:56:51 AM EDT
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Year? Engine?
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Posted: 4/21/2016 8:04:47 AM EDT
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I cannot imagine the day when I pay a mechanic to change spark plugs on a basic engine.
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Posted: 4/21/2016 8:11:27 AM EDT
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If you are pondering this, then yes.
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Posted: 4/21/2016 8:18:49 AM EDT
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Old in line 6 and the 4 banger are easy!
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Posted: 4/21/2016 8:22:41 AM EDT
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I did my 4.0 in 30 minutes.
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Posted: 4/21/2016 9:05:28 AM EDT
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2012, Wrangler. Drivers side plugs are easy, passenger side is an Indiana Jones trip
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Posted: 4/21/2016 5:26:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2012, Wrangler. Drivers side plugs are easy, passenger side is an Indiana Jones trip |
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Posted: 4/21/2016 5:33:42 PM EDT
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does it have one of those new fandangled pentastar v-6's? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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2012, Wrangler. Drivers side plugs are easy, passenger side is an Indiana Jones trip Yes. 2012 is the year they became standard in the Wrangler. |
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Posted: 4/21/2016 6:04:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. 2012 is the year they became standard in the Wrangler. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: 2012, Wrangler. Drivers side plugs are easy, passenger side is an Indiana Jones trip Yes. 2012 is the year they became standard in the Wrangler. I have a 10 and the only one that looks difficult to get to is the passenger rear. How many miles do you have on it that makes you think you need to change plugs? |
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Posted: 4/21/2016 6:18:01 PM EDT
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I have a 10 and the only one that looks difficult to get to is the passenger rear. How many miles do you have on it that makes you think you need to change plugs? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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2012, Wrangler. Drivers side plugs are easy, passenger side is an Indiana Jones trip Yes. 2012 is the year they became standard in the Wrangler. I have a 10 and the only one that looks difficult to get to is the passenger rear. How many miles do you have on it that makes you think you need to change plugs? Different engine. Yours has the 3.8. |
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Posted: 4/21/2016 6:21:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Different engine. Yours has the 3.8. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 2012, Wrangler. Drivers side plugs are easy, passenger side is an Indiana Jones trip Yes. 2012 is the year they became standard in the Wrangler. I have a 10 and the only one that looks difficult to get to is the passenger rear. How many miles do you have on it that makes you think you need to change plugs? Different engine. Yours has the 3.8. I know this |
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Posted: 4/21/2016 6:21:55 PM EDT
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OP
How many miles do you have on it that makes you think you need to change plugs? |
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Posted: 4/21/2016 6:27:10 PM EDT
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I know this Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a 10 and the only one that looks difficult to get to is the passenger rear. How many miles do you have on it that makes you think you need to change plugs? Different engine. Yours has the 3.8. I know this Was just replying about the underlined. What may be easy / hard to reach on one engine, may not be the same on another. |
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Posted: 4/21/2016 7:21:25 PM EDT
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It's not as bad as it looks. You just have to take off the intake plenum, and disconnect a few wires to do the drivers side plugs.
Get your plugs in hand first. No one around here had them in stock, not even the dealer. Get after it. |
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Posted: 4/21/2016 7:58:13 PM EDT
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coming up on 50k, just thought i would get ahead of it
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Posted: 4/21/2016 8:02:30 PM EDT
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coming up on 50k, just thought i would get ahead of it You're wasting your time and money. I personally wouldn't bother till it started misfiring or mpg dropped off which may be never If you insist on doing it as a pm wait another 50k |
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Posted: 4/21/2016 8:13:37 PM EDT
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You're wasting your time and money. I personally wouldn't bother till it started misfiring or mpg dropped off which may be never If you insist on doing it as a pm wait another 50k Quote HistoryQuoted:
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coming up on 50k, just thought i would get ahead of it You're wasting your time and money. I personally wouldn't bother till it started misfiring or mpg dropped off which may be never If you insist on doing it as a pm wait another 50k This! |
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Posted: 4/21/2016 8:19:05 PM EDT
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NO spark plug is as good as it should be after 50K.
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Posted: 4/21/2016 8:21:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: NO spark plug is as good as it should be after 50K. Spark plugs in most cases easily last 100k. |
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Posted: 4/21/2016 8:27:52 PM EDT
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NO spark plug is as good as it should be after 50K. It's not 1977 You don't have a motorcraft or carter carb sitting in the middle of your engine washing down the entire combustion chamber with dirty poorly refined fuel sparked by a weak single coil through a copper center electrode. I can show you a 240k mile v10 ford that's still on the original plugs. It's just now getting so you can feel it slightly misfire if you bog the engine with 4 or 5 thousand pounds on a trailer |
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Posted: 4/22/2016 9:11:59 AM EDT
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Spark plugs in most cases easily last 100k. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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NO spark plug is as good as it should be after 50K. Spark plugs in most cases easily last 100k. This. They are not a 50k replacement item, unless there's a problem. Pretty sure the manual doesn't call for it either. Save your money and potential frustration. |
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Posted: 4/22/2016 11:06:53 AM EDT
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I say it's cheap insurance. Yes, it may not need plugs at 50k, but changing them out makes for less of a chance of the plugs being frozen in the heads. On some known problem cars/trucks it's actually not a bad idea to just remove and reinstall the plugs every year or two years. Sometimes adding a little anti-seize to the threads can be beneficial (don't overdue it with the anti-seize as to much can work it's way down to the spark plug's electrode causing a misfire)
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Posted: 4/22/2016 11:29:18 AM EDT
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I say it's cheap insurance. Yes, it may not need plugs at 50k, but changing them out makes for less of a chance of the plugs being frozen in the heads. On some known problem cars/trucks it's actually not a bad idea to just remove and reinstall the plugs every year or two years. Sometimes adding a little anti-seize to the threads can be beneficial (don't overdue it with the anti-seize as to much can work it's way down to the spark plug's electrode causing a misfire) You will wreak far more havoc on your rides heads removing plugs all the time for no good reason then you will changing them following correct procedures the ONE TIME the vehicle will need it during its entire lifetime. You are probably one of those guys who would adjust his valves all the time wondering why he gets so many flat cam lobes |
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Posted: 4/22/2016 2:01:42 PM EDT
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You will wreak far more havoc on your rides heads removing plugs all the time for no good reason then you will changing them following correct procedures the ONE TIME the vehicle will need it during its entire lifetime. You are probably one of those guys who would adjust his valves all the time wondering why he gets so many flat cam lobes Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I say it's cheap insurance. Yes, it may not need plugs at 50k, but changing them out makes for less of a chance of the plugs being frozen in the heads. On some known problem cars/trucks it's actually not a bad idea to just remove and reinstall the plugs every year or two years. Sometimes adding a little anti-seize to the threads can be beneficial (don't overdue it with the anti-seize as to much can work it's way down to the spark plug's electrode causing a misfire) You will wreak far more havoc on your rides heads removing plugs all the time for no good reason then you will changing them following correct procedures the ONE TIME the vehicle will need it during its entire lifetime. You are probably one of those guys who would adjust his valves all the time wondering why he gets so many flat cam lobes Nope, I'm one of those guys that is a 23 year ASE mechanic and has seen way to many people neglect their autos and then have damage done when it does become time to fix something. And I said that though changing the plugs wasn't needed(as you should have read since you quoted me),that it could be done without worry. In fact if done correctly, the plugs could be changed out every other month without problems. This is a forum where people can ask for help and get info to make their lives a little easier. Not a place for to throw insults. |
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Posted: 4/22/2016 3:29:16 PM EDT
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Factory states to replace plugs at 96k miles.
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Posted: 4/22/2016 3:30:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope, I'm one of those guys that is a 23 year ASE mechanic and has seen way to many people neglect their autos and then have damage done when it does become time to fix something. And I said that though changing the plugs wasn't needed(as you should have read since you quoted me),that it could be done without worry. In fact if done correctly, the plugs could be changed out every other month without problems. This is a forum where people can ask for help and get info to make their lives a little easier. Not a place for to throw insults. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I say it's cheap insurance. Yes, it may not need plugs at 50k, but changing them out makes for less of a chance of the plugs being frozen in the heads. On some known problem cars/trucks it's actually not a bad idea to just remove and reinstall the plugs every year or two years. Sometimes adding a little anti-seize to the threads can be beneficial (don't overdue it with the anti-seize as to much can work it's way down to the spark plug's electrode causing a misfire) You will wreak far more havoc on your rides heads removing plugs all the time for no good reason then you will changing them following correct procedures the ONE TIME the vehicle will need it during its entire lifetime. You are probably one of those guys who would adjust his valves all the time wondering why he gets so many flat cam lobes Nope, I'm one of those guys that is a 23 year ASE mechanic and has seen way to many people neglect their autos and then have damage done when it does become time to fix something. And I said that though changing the plugs wasn't needed(as you should have read since you quoted me),that it could be done without worry. In fact if done correctly, the plugs could be changed out every other month without problems. This is a forum where people can ask for help and get info to make their lives a little easier. Not a place for to throw insults. Have you ever had problems getting plugs out of a 2012 Jeep Wrangler? |
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Posted: 4/23/2016 7:06:22 AM EDT
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Listen to me. I did it last year. I have a 10 with the 3.8 not much diff from the 3.6. Change them at 50. I was over gapped because most of the plugs had burned. Plugs were almost seized on pax side. You are not supposed to put anti seize back on the due to the heads it what I read. As someone stated earlier pax side is an indiana jones adventure. 5 min on drivers side 2 hrs on pax side of trying to get the correct angle and leverage due to using adjustable plug wrench and long extension. took a friend and I doing it together to grt the firewall pax side plug. Also look into new wires. JK forum has plenty of topics on this. Most everyone reported burnt out plugs at 50 k. I would take it to someone next time. I broke two isolators removing them. Lucky I didnt get stuck in the block
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Posted: 4/23/2016 9:24:19 AM EDT
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Listen to me. I did it last year. I have a 10 with the 3.8 not much diff from the 3.6. Change them at 50. I was over gapped because most of the plugs had burned. Plugs were almost seized on pax side. You are not supposed to put anti seize back on the due to the heads it what I read. As someone stated earlier pax side is an indiana jones adventure. 5 min on drivers side 2 hrs on pax side of trying to get the correct angle and leverage due to using adjustable plug wrench and long extension. took a friend and I doing it together to grt the firewall pax side plug. Also look into new wires. JK forum has plenty of topics on this. Most everyone reported burnt out plugs at 50 k. I would take it to someone next time. I broke two isolators removing them. Lucky I didnt get stuck in the block I had heard similar info from friends, and this is what prompted me to do it. |
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Posted: 4/24/2016 7:18:54 AM EDT
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I think the reccomended plugs come with some kind of coating on them that will lock if you put anti seize. I know the back pax plug was the most worn and took a while to evict
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Posted: 4/24/2016 2:38:40 PM EDT
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There's a couple good YouTube videos showing how to do this step by step, looks like a pain in the ass
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Posted: 4/26/2016 10:22:15 PM EDT
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Yup it was time, |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 5:45:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryLooks like it was fine to me. how much did that cost you? |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 7:06:03 AM EDT
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parts were $120 + time in garage paid for by drinking Rogue Dead guy ale = priceless confidence in my Jeep
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Posted: 4/27/2016 8:08:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryWhat was the difference in gap? |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 9:34:54 AM EDT
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.15-.20
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Posted: 4/27/2016 10:16:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .15-.20 |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 10:38:08 AM EDT
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routine maintenance if it is miles ahead is not wasted money, it will still be spent
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Posted: 4/27/2016 11:05:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: routine maintenance if it is miles ahead is not wasted money, it will still be spent  |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 11:26:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should just go buy a new vehicle with that logic. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: routine maintenance if it is miles ahead is not wasted money, it will still be spent |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 11:26:54 AM EDT
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haters gonna hate
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Posted: 4/27/2016 6:53:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: haters gonna hate No hate, just disappointment. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 9:27:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWhat year and motor? I ask because I just did a rod and piston in a 2012 Wrangler with a 3.6 and the plugs looked way different than yours do. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:22:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What year and motor? I ask because I just did a rod and piston in a 2012 Wrangler with a 3.6 and the plugs looked way different than yours do. Quote HistoryQuoted: What year and motor? I ask because I just did a rod and piston in a 2012 Wrangler with a 3.6 and the plugs looked way different than yours do. That picture links to a Honda Pilot forum. 2008 Right now it is the Second picture when you search google "spark plug new vs old" https://www.google.com/search?q=spark+plug+new+vs+old&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZvayj8rbMAhVDSyYKHTmdChoQsAQIHA&biw=1366&bih=665 |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 2:43:48 PM EDT
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You paid $120 for 6 spark plugs?!
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Posted: 4/30/2016 6:55:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That picture links to a Honda Pilot forum. 2008 Right now it is the Second picture when you search google "spark plug new vs old" https://www.google.com/search?q=spark+plug+new+vs+old&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZvayj8rbMAhVDSyYKHTmdChoQsAQIHA&biw=1366&bih=665 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What year and motor? I ask because I just did a rod and piston in a 2012 Wrangler with a 3.6 and the plugs looked way different than yours do. That picture links to a Honda Pilot forum. 2008 Right now it is the Second picture when you search google "spark plug new vs old" https://www.google.com/search?q=spark+plug+new+vs+old&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZvayj8rbMAhVDSyYKHTmdChoQsAQIHA&biw=1366&bih=665 LOL |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 6:55:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You paid $120 for 6 spark plugs?! Also a LOL. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 7:17:06 PM EDT
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What year and motor? I ask because I just did a rod and piston in a 2012 Wrangler with a 3.6 and the plugs looked way different than yours do. That picture links to a Honda Pilot forum. 2008 Right now it is the Second picture when you search google "spark plug new vs old" https://www.google.com/search?q=spark+plug+new+vs+old&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZvayj8rbMAhVDSyYKHTmdChoQsAQIHA&biw=1366&bih=665 
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Posted: 4/30/2016 7:21:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/30/2016 7:48:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/2/2016 2:28:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am sorry but everything is suspect now. Quote HistoryYep. Why would there be oil all over that plug? |
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