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GUNGUY148 Man of few words. Team Member Joined: Dec 2009  MO, USA Posts: 4059 Feedback: 100% (9) Link To This Post

Posted: 3/27/2012 9:19:33 PM [Last Edit: 3/27/2012 9:20:57 PM by GUNGUY148] Originally Posted By RatherBeLifting: Originally Posted By GUNGUY148: Originally Posted By RatherBeLifting: I wonder if most people incorporate the NOV method. Following a pretty strict 90/10 paleo diet I've largely not lost much weight, but I have seen a tremendous amount of body re-composition. Prowler, sprints and hill sprints. Now that the weather is much nicer I've been able to walk with my dog, wife and daughter for a mile or so everyday. I think I may attempt to do the same....I tried the recomp thing a couple times before but didnt really get anywhere but now Im about 80/20 paleo so mabey I will have better results. If Wendler had worked NOV 10 years ago, we wouldn't know Greg Assman. Heavy work with some conditioning is where it's at. It doesn't market well and you cant charge $100 to certify someone in NOV. Certified north of vag. To bad I can't have that plaque hanging on my wall!!! ETA: Page 24 ownage

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darktide Brain Doc Team Member Joined: Apr 2008  MI, USA Posts: 1298 Feedback: 100% (13) Link To This Post	Posted: 3/27/2012 9:44:12 PM ok. deloading this week off of a WSB cycle. Restarting 531 next week. gonna do a cycle or 2 with floor-presses for flat-presses and see how it goes...
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GUNGUY148 Man of few words. Team Member Joined: Dec 2009  MO, USA Posts: 4079 Feedback: 100% (9) Link To This Post	Posted: 3/28/2012 10:10:20 PM Semi successful deadlift night. Hit 415 for 3...should have been 425x3 but I failed at math tonight atnd didn't realize it till I was unloading the bar. I think it was a good thing though....the last pull was all I had and then some. I don't think I could have made it another 10 pounds.
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Posted: 3/28/2012 11:53:39 PM Originally Posted By GUNGUY148: Semi successful deadlift night. Hit 415 for 3...should have been 425x3 but I failed at math tonight atnd didn't realize it till I was unloading the bar. I think it was a good thing though....the last pull was all I had and then some. I don't think I could have made it another 10 pounds. That's self defeating talk. 10lbs at 400 is like 2%. You would've done just fine.

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Hank Member Team Member Joined: Apr 2001  TN, USA Posts: 19919 Feedback: 100% (112) Link To This Post	Posted: 3/29/2012 12:03:31 AM Anyone see tonight's Q&A on Wendler's site? Talks about how he would NOT certify and hates seminars.
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Posted: 3/29/2012 12:04:18 AM Originally Posted By RatherBeLifting: Originally Posted By GUNGUY148: Semi successful deadlift night. Hit 415 for 3...should have been 425x3 but I failed at math tonight atnd didn't realize it till I was unloading the bar. I think it was a good thing though....the last pull was all I had and then some. I don't think I could have made it another 10 pounds. That's self defeating talk. 10lbs at 400 is like 2%. You would've done just fine. this. You should probably go ahead and go hit that now.

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GUNGUY148 Man of few words. Team Member Joined: Dec 2009  MO, USA Posts: 4085 Feedback: 100% (9) Link To This Post

Posted: 3/29/2012 12:06:22 AM Originally Posted By RatherBeLifting: Originally Posted By GUNGUY148: Semi successful deadlift night. Hit 415 for 3...should have been 425x3 but I failed at math tonight atnd didn't realize it till I was unloading the bar. I think it was a good thing though....the last pull was all I had and then some. I don't think I could have made it another 10 pounds. That's self defeating talk. 10lbs at 400 is like 2%. You would've done just fine. Good point. Youre probaby right...10 pounds isnt very much.It was damn heavy tonight though. The gf was sitting outside the gym in the car when I was doing my final sets...she said she heard me slam the bar down at the end and thought it may had been a car wreck. It was one of those don't chip your teeth on the bar kinda moments.

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GUNGUY148 Man of few words. Team Member Joined: Dec 2009  MO, USA Posts: 4086 Feedback: 100% (9) Link To This Post	Posted: 3/29/2012 12:09:14 AM Originally Posted By Hank: Anyone see tonight's Q&A on Wendler's site? Talks about how he would NOT certify and hates seminars. I didn't catch it but I would love to hear him on how some say core strength is great and belts are not...my that could be a fun read!
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Posted: 3/29/2012 12:36:49 AM Originally Posted By GUNGUY148: Originally Posted By Hank: Anyone see tonight's Q&A on Wendler's site? Talks about how he would NOT certify and hates seminars. I didn't catch it but I would love to hear him on how some say core strength is great and belts are not...my that could be a fun read! Belts are going to be the beans/chili topic of SD&F. I hate belties...retards and they can't prove to me that belts have any scientific impact on my lifting. Until I see proof, I will assume that belted lifters spit in the face of God, America and everything pure! I see the problem in your lifting. You have a girlfriend. Get married and then you'll be breaking PR's again.

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Posted: 3/29/2012 12:39:05 AM Originally Posted By GUNGUY148: Originally Posted By Hank: Anyone see tonight's Q&A on Wendler's site? Talks about how he would NOT certify and hates seminars. I didn't catch it but I would love to hear him on how some say core strength is great and belts are not...my that could be a fun read! this particular one he did talk about ab work- advocated a ton of it, of course. Think he's addressed the belt thing before.

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Hank Member Team Member Joined: Apr 2001  TN, USA Posts: 19934 Feedback: 100% (112) Link To This Post

Posted: 3/29/2012 12:41:27 AM Originally Posted By RatherBeLifting: Originally Posted By GUNGUY148: Originally Posted By Hank: Anyone see tonight's Q&A on Wendler's site? Talks about how he would NOT certify and hates seminars. I didn't catch it but I would love to hear him on how some say core strength is great and belts are not...my that could be a fun read! Belts are going to be the beans/chili topic of SD&F. I hate belties...retards and they can't prove to me that belts have any scientific impact on my lifting. Until I see proof, I will assume that belted lifters spit in the face of God, America and everything pure! I see the problem in your lifting. You have a girlfriend. Get married and then you'll be breaking PR's again. this is a wise man. On the belt thing, I really only use one on my last last of deadlifts, and mostly not for safety but to push against with mah belleh.

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GUNGUY148 Man of few words. Team Member Joined: Dec 2009  MO, USA Posts: 4088 Feedback: 100% (9) Link To This Post	Posted: 3/29/2012 8:24:09 AM I did that once...not trying it again any time soon. I also just use a belt on my last set. I feel safer and stronger wearing one so therefor I lift more....what's not to like about that
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Posted: 3/29/2012 9:16:24 AM Originally Posted By RatherBeLifting: Originally Posted By GUNGUY148: Originally Posted By Hank: Anyone see tonight's Q&A on Wendler's site? Talks about how he would NOT certify and hates seminars. I didn't catch it but I would love to hear him on how some say core strength is great and belts are not...my that could be a fun read! Belts are going to be the beans/chili topic of SD&F. I hate belties...retards and they can't prove to me that belts have any scientific impact on my lifting. Until I see proof, I will assume that belted lifters spit in the face of God, America and everything pure! I see the problem in your lifting. You have a girlfriend. Get married and then you'll be breaking PR's again. The belt goes on anytime my squats or deads go above 300.

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RatherBeLifting I don't accept your weakness. Team Member Joined: Sep 2010  TX, USA Posts: 344 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 3/29/2012 9:23:04 AM I hope you guys realize I was being a bit overzealous with my statement about belts. I have used one and I don't get the vitriol for belts that some people have.
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GUNGUY148 Man of few words. Team Member Joined: Dec 2009  MO, USA Posts: 4089 Feedback: 100% (9) Link To This Post	Posted: 3/29/2012 9:33:50 AM Originally Posted By RatherBeLifting: I hope you guys realize I was being a bit overzealous with my statement about belts. I have used one and I don't get the vitriol for belts that some people have. I would have never thought you would be a smart ass
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AZ-AR15 BAMCIS!!! Team Member Joined: Feb 2003  CO, USA Posts: 6021 Feedback: 100% (8) Link To This Post	Posted: 3/29/2012 9:35:15 AM Originally Posted By RatherBeLifting: I hope you guys realize I was being a bit overzealous with my statement about belts. I have used one and I don't get the vitriol for belts that some people have. I figured you were more or less referring to the curls with a belt crowd.
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Posted: 3/29/2012 2:08:05 PM Originally Posted By AZ-AR15: Originally Posted By RatherBeLifting: Originally Posted By GUNGUY148: Originally Posted By Hank: Anyone see tonight's Q&A on Wendler's site? Talks about how he would NOT certify and hates seminars. I didn't catch it but I would love to hear him on how some say core strength is great and belts are not...my that could be a fun read! Belts are going to be the beans/chili topic of SD&F. I hate belties...retards and they can't prove to me that belts have any scientific impact on my lifting. Until I see proof, I will assume that belted lifters spit in the face of God, America and everything pure! I see the problem in your lifting. You have a girlfriend. Get married and then you'll be breaking PR's again. The belt goes on anytime my squats or deads go above 300. That's when I take my shoes off...

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Posted: 3/29/2012 3:22:08 PM Originally Posted By Any-Cal: Originally Posted By AZ-AR15: Originally Posted By RatherBeLifting: Originally Posted By GUNGUY148: Originally Posted By Hank: Anyone see tonight's Q&A on Wendler's site? Talks about how he would NOT certify and hates seminars. I didn't catch it but I would love to hear him on how some say core strength is great and belts are not...my that could be a fun read! Belts are going to be the beans/chili topic of SD&F. I hate belties...retards and they can't prove to me that belts have any scientific impact on my lifting. Until I see proof, I will assume that belted lifters spit in the face of God, America and everything pure! I see the problem in your lifting. You have a girlfriend. Get married and then you'll be breaking PR's again. The belt goes on anytime my squats or deads go above 300. That's when I take my shoes off... Sounds like you need to invest in some custom Chuck T's.

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MrKasab Member Joined: Jun 2004  OH, USA Posts: 1848 Feedback: 100% (26) Link To This Post	Posted: 3/29/2012 4:19:13 PM I am kind of taking training in 4 week blocks with the 4th week being a test week. I have started wearing a belt only every other block. I haven't shit out any vertebrae so I think I will probably do it this way. I think going back and forth will do me good.
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AZ-AR15 BAMCIS!!! Team Member Joined: Feb 2003  CO, USA Posts: 6026 Feedback: 100% (8) Link To This Post	Posted: 3/29/2012 4:35:34 PM Originally Posted By MrKasab: I am kind of taking training in 4 week blocks with the 4th week being a test week. I have started wearing a belt only every other block. I haven't shit out any vertebrae so I think I will probably do it this way. I think going back and forth will do me good. Deloading at all?
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MrKasab Member Joined: Jun 2004  OH, USA Posts: 1850 Feedback: 100% (26) Link To This Post	Posted: 3/29/2012 4:55:13 PM Kind of, my test week I don't really do any real volume stuff.
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Hank Member Team Member Joined: Apr 2001  TN, USA Posts: 19948 Feedback: 100% (112) Link To This Post	Posted: 3/29/2012 5:08:23 PM Originally Posted By AZ-AR15: Sounds like you need to invest in some custom Chuck T's. you mick fucker. If I hadn't just bought two pairs of Inov-8s, I would totally have ordered those. I came up with a wonderfully obnoxious design, too.
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Hank Member Team Member Joined: Apr 2001  TN, USA Posts: 19950 Feedback: 100% (112) Link To This Post	Posted: 3/29/2012 6:17:31 PM FYI, Elite is having a 30% off Metal gear sale
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AZ-AR15 BAMCIS!!! Team Member Joined: Feb 2003  CO, USA Posts: 6027 Feedback: 100% (8) Link To This Post	Posted: 3/29/2012 6:39:05 PM [Last Edit: 3/29/2012 6:39:38 PM by AZ-AR15] Originally Posted By Hank: Originally Posted By AZ-AR15: Sounds like you need to invest in some custom Chuck T's. you mick fucker. If I hadn't just bought two pairs of Inov-8s, I would totally have ordered those. I came up with a wonderfully obnoxious design, too. Was it anything like my design? Ammurika!
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Posted: 3/29/2012 7:25:02 PM I hate deload weeks... I feel like a slacking bitch... ===================== side note: fuckin' belt thread––- had to step away after my last post, and I don't plan on going back. There's too many variables to say that belts are dangerous, good, bad, etc. If I'm lifting bodyweight (270+) I'm belting. Fact of the matter is this: I lift more with a belt. I'm less of a pussy because I lift more. Lift less?–– waste of time/effort. Belt=manly Done.

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