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Posted: 8/5/2014 4:04:22 PM EDT
Stag Arms Introduces New 9mm Series of AR-15 Rifles After overwhelming requests from our customers and a long time in research and development, our first pistol caliber carbine is officially being released today. The new Model 9 & 9T series of rifles provide the shooter with a compact pistol caliber carbine on a well known platform. Compared to the 5.56 cartridge, the 9mm cartridge used in a carbine configuration is the ideal choice for short range & self defense use – up to 200 yards due to decreased muzzle blast, decreased muzzle flash, lower recoil, reduced over-penetration, and a heavier bullet. An added benefit is that you can also shoot this rifle at most pistol caliber only indoor ranges. Both the Model 9 & 9T series boast a 1/10 twist 16” heavy barrel, carbine length gas system, a 6-position adjustable buttstock, and as always they are available in right & left hand configurations. The safety, charging handle, and magazine release function the same as any AR-15. However we have designed the actions of the rifles from the ground up. The rifles accept standard Colt style 9mm AR magazines which insert into the integrated magazine well in the lower receiver. The integrated magazine well won’t come loose or have feeding issues accompanied with drop in magazine blocks. Differences from a standard AR-15 can also be found in the lower receiver with a specially designed hammer, magazine catch, and buffer. In the Upper half, the bolt and carrier are one piece with a modified ejection port cover and brass deflector. The Model 9 and 9T have different configurations. The Model 9 has a railed gas block and drop in Diamondhead VRS-T modular handguard with no sights. The Model 9T is the tactical version with a free floating 13.5” Diamondhead VRS-T modular handguard and aluminum Diamondhead flip up sights for faster target acquisitions. Both rifles will accept the Diamondhead rail sections for extreme customization. Pricing: 9 (Right Hand) $990.00 9L (Left Hand) $1025.00 9T (Right Hand) $1275.00 9TL (Left Hand) $1295.00 Specifications: 9 & 9L 16” heavy barrel, 9mm chamber, and 1/10 twist rate A2 flash hider Diamondhead drop in modular handguard 9mm trigger which has a Mil-spec trigger pull Carbine buttstock and A2 pistol grip No sights 9T & 9TL 16” heavy barrel, 9mm chamber, and 1/10 twist rate A2 flash hider Diamondhead free float handguard 9mm trigger which has a Mil-spec trigger pull Carbine buttstock and A2 pistol grip Diamondhead aluminum front & rear flip up sights |
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Are the bolts ramped? Do they use standard AR FCG? I'm glad to see you offering these. Have you considered offering a factory pistol version?
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Standard blowback action with a heavy carrier or did you rework it to a delayed locking type action?
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Are you going to sell the modified UZI mags? You might want to state that they are modified. Otherwise I would love to see how you did a traditional UZI mag release setup with a traditional AR mag button.
Those Diamondhead handguards do look very nice on both models though. |
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[div style='text-align: center;']Stag Arms Introduces New 9mm Series of AR-15 Rifles After overwhelming requests from our customers and a long time in research and development, our first pistol caliber carbine is officially being released today. The new Model 9 & 9T series of rifles provide the shooter with a compact pistol caliber carbine on a well known platform. Compared to the 5.56 cartridge, the 9mm cartridge used in a carbine configuration is the ideal choice for short range & self defense use – up to 200 yards due to decreased muzzle blast, decreased muzzle flash, lower recoil, reduced over-penetration, and a heavier bullet. An added benefit is that you can also shoot this rifle at most pistol caliber only indoor ranges. Both the Model 9 & 9T series boast a 1/10 twist 16” heavy barrel, carbine length gas system, a 6-position adjustable buttstock, and as always they are available in right & left hand configurations. The safety, charging handle, and magazine release function the same as any AR-15. However we have designed the actions of the rifles from the ground up. The rifles accept standard Colt style 9mm AR magazines which insert into the integrated magazine well in the lower receiver. The integrated magazine well won’t come loose or have feeding issues accompanied with drop in magazine blocks. Differences from a standard AR-15 can also be found in the lower receiver with a specially designed hammer, magazine catch, and buffer. In the Upper half, the bolt and carrier are one piece with a modified ejection port cover and brass deflector. The Model 9 and 9T have different configurations. The Model 9 has a railed gas block and drop in Diamondhead VRS-T modular handguard with no sights. The Model 9T is the tactical version with a free floating 13.5” Diamondhead VRS-T modular handguard and aluminum Diamondhead flip up sights for faster target acquisitions. Both rifles will accept the Diamondhead rail sections for extreme customization. Pricing: 9 (Right Hand) $990.00 9L (Left Hand) $1025.00 9T (Right Hand) $1275.00 9TL (Left Hand) $1295.00 Specifications: 9 & 9L 16” heavy barrel, 9mm chamber, and 1/10 twist rate A2 flash hider Diamondhead drop in modular handguard 9mm trigger which has a Mil-spec trigger pull Carbine buttstock and A2 pistol grip No sights 9T & 9TL 16” heavy barrel, 9mm chamber, and 1/10 twist rate A2 flash hider Diamondhead free float handguard 9mm trigger which has a Mil-spec trigger pull Carbine buttstock and A2 pistol grip Diamondhead aluminum front & rear flip up sights View Quote Are these Blowback or DI? |
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That's what I thought as well, but the OP states carbine length gas system so now I'm confused.
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Any chance for a less expensive, more basic model? Like maybe a stag model 1 but in 9mm?
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The stag website says "blow back action" maybe they just meant a non function gas/fs block at the carbine position for carbine handguard attachment
A few other questions to stag: 1 - I get the dedicated lower, makes sense to ensure reliable feeding and everything works together, can we get some pics under the hood, how are the UZI mags cut to work, can they be modified by a garage gunsmith (ie should I buy a ton now or wait for yall to sell them modified)? 2 - What lower parts will/wont work (aftermarket triggers EDIT: I see those are proprietary (hope geissele makes one for these), ambi mag catches like troy/norgen, bolt catches/levers, anything else I'm missin?) 3 - Do these use a stock charging handle and/or barrel nut? 4 - what parts are lefty unique (I am guessing the lower because it has the ejector, bcg, how about the barrel/barrel extension? 5 - Will yall sell these in parts/halves at some point? 6 - Why no Fwd Assist (or is that just not done on 9mm guns?) Either way, I'll HAVE to have me one very soon. First leftie 9mm AR eveh Thinking this would be sick with a form 1, 4"-5.5" barrel and can under a FF tube. ETA: I dont suppose its pure coincidence that 9 was the next # on your model list Does that mean the next one is a 10mm? |
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That 9T is awesome!
Pennies are being saved my friends, being saved! |
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You guys read my mind, I've been thinking a lot about a 9mm AR15 lately!
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I am super happy to see these but am hoping a model 10 is in the works in .40 caliber? I don't shoot much 9mm but a .40 carbine would save me so much money. Here's hoping!
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I think I have all the questions answered here. Pctures will be in the next post.
Magazines: Colt style 9mm magazines are used with the rifle, not modified Uzi magazines. Pistol or SBR version: No plans at this time Post Ban states: Not legal in CT, NY, MA, or NJ. Configurations available for CA(bullet button) & OH(20rd mag instead of 32 round mag). Action: Blowback (The action statement in the press release was incorrect) Magazine release Button: Standard AR-15 Changing handle & barrel nut: Stock Selling in parts or upper/lower halves: No plans to at this time Forward assist: No forward assist is on the rifle because you don't have to force locking lugs into place like with a 5.56 AR-15 bolt. Lefty unique items: Brass deflector, bolt, ejection port cover, upper reciever |
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It says A2 flash hider installed. Does this mean 1/2x36tpi threaded barrel?
Question mainly for use with suppressors. Also edit: website says 32 rnd Uzi magazines. Might want to change over to the posts colt 9mm mags. |
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Agree, could use same mags for both rifle and pistol, plus I already have glock 33 round mags and their knock offs View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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why you no make it take 33rd glock mags This..... Agree, could use same mags for both rifle and pistol, plus I already have glock 33 round mags and their knock offs I imagine it has to do with getting the feeding and LRBHO to work right. WIth glock mags you will have to rework the mag release, bolt catch. ALso, the geometry of a glock mag means the bolt will need extensive reworking since it is single stack feed. That also presents an issue I think in fitting the ejector in. I too wish it would take Glock mags as well, but it is in no way a show stopper. Nice touch with the beveled magazine well, might consider drilling some lightening holes in the aluminum filling to cut weight down. Stag, a clarification> you said the mag button is stock, does that mean the release part is too, or is it JUST the button that is stock? |
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I applaud Stag for catering to the Lefty market (ME!). I have two Stag left handed .223 rifles and a custom left handed 4.5" .22 upper of stag parts on the way. Like the others, I would prefer Glock magazines, but I will end up purchasing one of these regardless of magazine type. I really would like to see a pistol model I could use the sig brace with.
Thanks for making this! |
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I think I have all the questions answered here. Pctures will be in the next post. Magazines: Colt style 9mm magazines are used with the rifle, not modified Uzi magazines. Pistol or SBR version: No plans at this time Post Ban states: Not legal in CT, NY, MA, or NJ. Configurations available for CA(bullet button) & OH(20rd mag instead of 32 round mag). Action: Blowback (The action statement in the press release was incorrect) Magazine release Button: Standard AR-15 Changing handle & barrel nut: Stock Selling in parts or upper/lower halves: No plans to at this time Forward assist: No forward assist is on the rifle because you don't have to force locking lugs into place like with a 5.56 AR-15 bolt. Lefty unique items: Brass deflector, bolt, ejection port cover, upper reciever View Quote Awesome to see y'all in the 9mm market. PLEASE think about doing a pistol version. Now that the Sig brace is available, it just makes sense. |
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Need Glock mags.... View Quote Agreed, glock mag compatibility would be more desirable to me, and im sure many others... perhaps even some LE contracts would be interested in a carbine with compatible mags to their duty guns, like the way ruger made the pc9 (even though its discontinued). But regardless, its good to see another manufacturer get in on the pcc. |
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The Colt mag is virtually an Uzi mag copy . I would rather have unmodified Uzi mags or Glock mags
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