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Posted: 6/15/2017 1:07:41 AM EDT
Trying to decide on these 2? I know BC is the old go to but I've confirmed that the Defenders fit my exact scope perfectly, from another user that has same model. Just wondering if they are the same thickness as the Butler?
My objective OD is 2.6" and ocular OD is 1.8". Looks like BC largest flip cap is 2.5"? |
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What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!
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I have a pair of both and haven't broken either (yet!). The Vortex Defenders feel more durable. AND, another "advantage" of the Vortex is that you can spend more money on dope disks if you're into that kind of thing... (short YouTube comparison video)
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See if Aadland makes caps for your application.
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What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!
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Then you'll probably buy them again and again. There's a reason the AADland caps are pricey.
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My vote goes to the Vortex Defender caps. I have two sets and I love em!
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My vote goes to Butler Creek. I just took Defenders off my CMP service rifle because the spongy collar doesn't hold well. When you flip them open the whole cap moves, especiallyout in the sun when they warm up. The Butler cap hold solid. Yes, the Defenders feel more beefy, but I don't want my cap coming half way off every time I try to open it.
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My take.
Top of the line, go-be-poor-somewhere-else - Aadland. Not cheap, but neither are my good scopes, and these things are tough, and I haven't had a problem with ANY of the numerous Aadland caps I have. Between Vortex Defender vs Butler Creek, it depends on what size you need and here's why: If both have a size that's a very close fit, use whichever you prefer. If the closest fit is slightly undersized, go Defender. The reason is that the Defender caps have a rubber sock with a plastic ring and cap. The cap snaps onto the plastic ring. The BC caps have a plastic cap and a molded rubber sock+ring. If it's undersized you can stretch it over the scope end to fit, but the ring the cap snaps on gets distorted and will pop open on its own after a while, defeating the purpose of having scope caps. The Defenders with the plastic ring don't do that. Better to have it slightly loose and use a little tape for a snug fit. For the 'pretty' snowflakes who worry about keeping their stuff pristine, stuff that gets used, gets wear, that's life. Tape residue comes off easily with a rag with a little Goo Gone or Zippo lighter fluid. Or you can apply the tape to the inside of the scope cap. |
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Originally Posted By bluemax_1:
My take. Top of the line, go-be-poor-somewhere-else - Aadland. Not cheap, but neither are my good scopes, and these things are tough, and I haven't had a problem with ANY of the numerous Aadland caps I have. Between Vortex Defender vs Butler Creek, it depends on what size you need and here's why: If both have a size that's a very close fit, use whichever you prefer. If the closest fit is slightly undersized, go Defender. The reason is that the Defender caps have a rubber sock with a plastic ring and cap. The cap snaps onto the plastic ring. The BC caps have a plastic cap and a molded rubber sock+ring. If it's undersized you can stretch it over the scope end to fit, but the ring the cap snaps on gets distorted and will pop open on its own after a while, defeating the purpose of having scope caps. The Defenders with the plastic ring don't do that. Better to have it slightly loose and use a little tape for a snug fit. For the 'pretty' snowflakes who worry about keeping their stuff pristine, stuff that gets used, gets wear, that's life. Tape residue comes off easily with a rag with a little Goo Gone or Zippo lighter fluid. Or you can apply the tape to the inside of the scope cap. View Quote The question I have on the BC is they don't offer an exact size for my scope. My objective is 2.6". The largest BC is like 2.5" I think. Just going to have to try and see. Does anyone know if the Defenders and Butlers are the same thickness? Don't want something so thick that it interfere with scope / barrel clearance. |
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What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!
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I've broken 10+ BC caps and haven't broken any Defenders. Take that for what it's worth.
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"Adding a piston to an AR is like nailing more legs to a dog and calling it an octopus." - Chapman
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Originally Posted By alpha0815:
...Does anyone know if the Defenders and Butlers are the same thickness?... View Quote |
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Anyone having fitment issues, wrap a piece of black electrical tape around your objective, or the inside of the cap, for a snugger fit
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Originally Posted By JoeMal:
Anyone having fitment issues, wrap a piece of black electrical tape around your objective, or the inside of the cap, for a snugger fit View Quote |
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"Adding a piston to an AR is like nailing more legs to a dog and calling it an octopus." - Chapman
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Tough decision but based on the replies here and knowing the Defenders fit my particular scope well, I'll give the Vortex a shot.
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What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!
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3M makes a self-amalgamating tape that only sticks to itself and won't leave sticky residue on your scope. If the Defenders are a little loose that is what I would recommend.
I think you will be happy with the Defenders, they are extremely durable. We have sold a tons of them and rarely have seen one broken. But even if you somehow manage to, we will cover it with the VIP warranty. |
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www.vortexoptics.com
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Originally Posted By ballisticxlr:
Then you'll probably buy them again and again. There's a reason the AADland caps are pricey. View Quote Between the BC and Vortex it's no contest. BC are crap. Used them for years when they were the only ones out there and they snap off pretty easy. Replaced a ton. Would never buy them again. |
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http://www.teamblaster.net
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Yep, mind is made up. Just ordered the Vortex.
Thanks for all the replies. |
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What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!
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Originally Posted By MS556:
For those reading this thread with Leupold scopes, strongly consider their all metal fold flat screw in Alumina caps. Very well made and effective. Available for most models with threaded objectves and occulars. http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/Mobile%20Uploads/70CE5D32-9C17-47F1-B6E0-FCF282B173F8_zpstlybdagi.jpg View Quote |
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I went with the Defenders. I've only had experience with Butler in the past. The eyepiece Vortex cap took some finagling to get it on right and closed, but they are awesome. Very solid but still easy to open and close. They arent the best looking on my scope, but they work great.
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What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!
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Originally Posted By alpha0815:
Trying to decide on these 2? I know BC is the old go to but I've confirmed that the Defenders fit my exact scope perfectly, from another user that has same model. Just wondering if they are the same thickness as the Butler? My objective OD is 2.6" and ocular OD is 1.8". Looks like BC largest flip cap is 2.5"? View Quote Vortex for sure. More durable in my opinion. |
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So that others may live......
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... And I just added a third set of Vortex Defenders. Soon to add three more sets. You won't be disappointed with Vortex Defenders.
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