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Posted: 6/6/2017 11:43:50 AM EDT
I was about to get a Razor G2 then saw the AMG on their website. Now I'm torn. This is to used mainly for long range shooting, not so much hunting or anything like that.
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Posted: 6/6/2017 11:52:33 AM EDT
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due to the weight and color i would purchase the AMG
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Posted: 6/6/2017 12:54:02 PM EDT
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if its just for the range then get the razor. plenty of almost new used ones floating around now for good deals
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Posted: 6/6/2017 3:25:12 PM EDT
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I own both.
I think there is a slight, but discernible difference in the light transmission favoring the HD Gen II due to the 34mm tube and 56mm objective (vs 30mm and 50mm, respectively). While the are both essentially the same length, the HD AMG does save weight and feel smaller simply because of the smaller diameter tube and objective. I think the Razor HD AMG gets a slight edge because of the weight savings and a slightly better windage adjustment range than the Razor Gen II. I also prefer the EBR-7 reticle over the EBR-2C. But if you need a full rev indicator on the elevation, don't have weight requirements, want maximum light transmission, and/or want the extra 3x max magnification, then go Razor HD Gen II. A quick reference to the color, I actually like that weird bronze desert color of the Razor HD Gen II, but I'm not factoring in color/finish of the scope in the decision. Note: I have a short table of the differences between the two here: https://www.ocabj.net/precision-rifle-project-series-savage-10fp-part-4/ |
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Posted: 6/6/2017 5:35:30 PM EDT
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As mentioned the major differences are weight, color, knobs and reticle. Also the Razor II has more internal elevation at 113 MOA vs the 96 MOA on the AMG but with that said they both have plenty to reach out to ELR. Both are excellent optics.
I have owned a Razor II since they came out when I got one of the first to hit the streets and the same for the AMG which I got about a year ago. Both track perfect and have great glass. You just need to figure what features you want as you really can't go wrong with either. Look at the reticles and see which you like better. 
2C reticle from a PST but the Razor II looks the same. 
A side by side with AMG on top and Razor II in center. 
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Posted: 6/7/2017 11:23:40 AM EDT
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Thanks for the great comparisons. It was a tough decision but I went with the AMG (MRAD). Dealer says I should get it in 30-45 days.
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Posted: 6/7/2017 11:44:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burntcrispy:
Thanks for the great comparisons. It was a tough decision but I went with the AMG (MRAD). Dealer says I should get it in 30-45 days. |
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Posted: 6/7/2017 12:19:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ocabj:
FYI: The Razor HD AMG comes with Defender scope caps, so no need to order flip-ups, unless you prefer some other types of caps / covers. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 6/7/2017 12:22:32 PM EDT
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Just my $.02, and I know you said you were looking at Vortex, but perhaps check out a company called Athlon Optics. A sniper buddy of mine recently turned me on to them and I love their scopes. Similar in price and quality to Vortex. I have an Ares and an Argos. Most are FFP and are available in many different configurations as far as magnification and MOA/mRad.
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Posted: 6/7/2017 2:12:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burntcrispy:
Thanks for the great comparisons. It was a tough decision but I went with the AMG (MRAD). Dealer says I should get it in 30-45 days. Here's what it will look like when it shows up. 
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Posted: 6/7/2017 2:37:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rob01:
Good deal. You will enjoy the scope. Couldn't really make a bad choice between the two. Just comes down to features. Here's what it will look like when it shows up. http://i.imgur.com/aQhzGgt.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rob01:
Originally Posted By burntcrispy:
Thanks for the great comparisons. It was a tough decision but I went with the AMG (MRAD). Dealer says I should get it in 30-45 days. Here's what it will look like when it shows up. http://i.imgur.com/aQhzGgt.jpg |
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Posted: 6/7/2017 3:11:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/15/2017 8:08:03 PM EDT
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Pulled the trigger on a new used off the hide . Mil/mil .
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AR, USA
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Posted: 6/16/2017 6:51:04 PM EDT
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Anyone use an AMG on a hunting setup? I'm considering one for an elk rig.
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Posted: 6/16/2017 7:22:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samson7x:
Anyone use an AMG on a hunting setup? I'm considering one for an elk rig. |
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Posted: 6/16/2017 7:36:04 PM EDT
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I'm really hoping to pick up a HD AMG at the end of the year, looks like an amazing optic.
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Posted: 6/17/2017 6:47:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bikerman9967]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samson7x:
Anyone use an AMG on a hunting setup? I'm considering one for an elk rig. vortex designed this scope with the hunter in mind. its a smaller and lighter package then the gen 2 razor, but similar features and top quality. |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 6/17/2017 11:19:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikerman9967:
the one i just bought is going on a 28 nosler hunting rifle. vortex designed this scope with the hunter in mind. its a smaller and lighter package then the gen 2 razor, but similar features and top quality. Just got my barreled action back from LRI and mounted in a McMillan carbon stock so I'm itching to finish the build. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 10:50:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samson7x:
Awesome, I'm starting to lean in that direction. I've also considered the pst gen II, bushnell lrts, and NF shv, but the AMG just seems like a much better choice. I may just have to sell a few things and go for it. Just got my barreled action back from LRI and mounted in a McMillan carbon stock so I'm itching to finish the build. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samson7x:
Originally Posted By bikerman9967:
the one i just bought is going on a 28 nosler hunting rifle. vortex designed this scope with the hunter in mind. its a smaller and lighter package then the gen 2 razor, but similar features and top quality. Just got my barreled action back from LRI and mounted in a McMillan carbon stock so I'm itching to finish the build. |
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Posted: 6/20/2017 9:36:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rob01:
I know VortexSam does. He posted some pics of an elk he took at 750 yards with his 6.5 Creedmoor rifle with a AMG on top. 
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Posted: 6/20/2017 8:49:17 PM EDT
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I just received my amg. Talk about a perfect hunting optic , wow. Litteraly everything you could ask for is in this thing . Great job vortex
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AR, USA
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Posted: 6/20/2017 11:13:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VortexSam:
Humble brag pics
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/149441/86549.JPG |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 7:34:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samson7x:
Gorgeous animal. What did it score? Where were you? |
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Posted: 7/27/2017 10:59:20 PM EDT
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My HD AMG should be in soon. I'm mounting it on an AR 10 in .260 Rem.
I'm thinking about putting it in a Spuhr 3016. What do you guys think? Any other options I should consider. With the Spuhr are you able to see the bubble while maintaining a cheek wield? All of my other bubbles are on the left side of the optic and can easily be seen, I'm not sure about the bubble being on the bottom of the mount. Thanks |
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Posted: 7/28/2017 1:07:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burntcrispy:
My HD AMG should be in soon. I'm mounting it on an AR 10 in .260 Rem. I'm thinking about putting it in a Spuhr 3016. What do you guys think? Any other options I should consider. With the Spuhr are you able to see the bubble while maintaining a cheek wield? All of my other bubbles are on the left side of the optic and can easily be seen, I'm not sure about the bubble being on the bottom of the mount. Thanks I can see the level on my bolt gun with the Spuhr but it would depend on the stock you have on the AR as it might be tougher if it's raised up some. If you like the side mounted then you can go with the Vortex mount and level and save about $200. https://swfa.com/vortex-precision-extended-cantilever-30mm-mount-2.html https://swfa.com/vortex-30mm-lo-pro-bubble-level.html |
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Posted: 7/28/2017 2:32:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: burntcrispy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rob01:
The Spuhr would work if you wanted to spend that much on it. Might want to get the 20 MOA version if you are getting one as it won't hurt having it with the AMG unless you already have 20 MOA in the upper receiver of the AR. I can see the level on my bolt gun with the Spuhr but it would depend on the stock you have on the AR as it might be tougher if it's raised up some. If you like the side mounted then you can go with the Vortex mount and level and save about $200. https://swfa.com/vortex-precision-extended-cantilever-30mm-mount-2.html https://swfa.com/vortex-30mm-lo-pro-bubble-level.html |
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Posted: 7/28/2017 9:08:22 PM EDT
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The more I think of it the more I realize I need a 20MOA mount since the rail is zero MOA. Anyone ever use LaRue LT745. It is a cantelevered mount with 20 moa.
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Posted: 7/29/2017 10:28:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Rob01]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burntcrispy:
Do you know who makes these for Vortex? |
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Posted: 7/29/2017 9:44:42 PM EDT
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Thx Rob. I figured it ot by some google-fu. I bought that 20 MOA Vortex rail and will put a bubble on it. I'll post a pic when my optic comes in. I'm hoping for greatness out of this gas gun. We'll see.
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Posted: 8/17/2017 5:11:50 PM EDT
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01FSQSNK4/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1503004119&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=razor+hd+amg&dpPl=1&dpID=31ua55y84DL&ref=plSrch
One HD AMG left on Amazon, there was 2 left as of 20 minutes ago, but someone bought one 
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Posted: 8/17/2017 5:48:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/31/2017 8:46:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: UM-Iceman]
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Posted: 9/1/2017 6:48:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UM-Iceman:
AMG at SWFA - 10% off and free shipping. 4 left. Vortex AMG (code in the banner at top of site) I have the same deal going with the code labor2017, and its in stock. You can get a discount on rings, etc while your ordering. Vortex AMG |
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Posted: 9/3/2017 11:06:55 AM EDT
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I can't tell you how many scopes I've bought and sold looking for the perfect crossover hunting / long range target scope. In a perfect world I would have an AMG at around 20oz and it would have a magnifcation range of 4-16 or 4-18. How do you guys feel using 6x for movers under 100 yards?
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Posted: 9/3/2017 1:48:01 PM EDT
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I have shot moving targets at matches at 50 yards and on 8x without an issue.
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Posted: 9/5/2017 11:55:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WarNerve:
I can't tell you how many scopes I've bought and sold looking for the perfect crossover hunting / long range target scope. In a perfect world I would have an AMG at around 20oz and it would have a magnifcation range of 4-16 or 4-18. How do you guys feel using 6x for movers under 100 yards? The 10% discount posted is killer, I wish I could have gotten in on that since I don't even need this optic for a couple months, I just wanted to grab it up since everyone says they're so hard to find. It's an amazing optic though, just buy it already. |
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