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Posted: 5/15/2017 9:36:27 PM EDT
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It's mainly between the Thompson Center and the weatherby Vanguard. The weatherby has the better trigger but the TC has the 5R rifling. I like the savage but don't like the idea of the accutriger. The Tikka is nice but on the pricier side. Someone persuade me
Set on 308. I don't hunt, but I have a huge appreciation for accuracy and am kind of OCD about it. The range I use now sucks (100 yards) but a new one is opening up that's supposed to have a 600 or 800 yard range. Best case scenario I'm plinking steel at 800 yards. |
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Experts will be along shortly but you need specifics.
What's purpose, caliber, price range, etc. |
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Way to general of a question to even answer.... Caliber preferred? Use for the rifle? What features are important to you?
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based only on what you have posted, Tikka. All. Day. Long.
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Sorry 308. I don't hunt, but I have a huge appreciation for accuracy and am kind of OCD about it. The range I use now sucks (100 yards) but a new one is opening up that's supposed to have a 600 or 800 yard range. Best case scenario I'm plinking steel at 800 yards.
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Could you elaborate for me?
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Tikka is required to have 3 shot group under 1 inch at 100 yds before it is allowed to leave the factory. Savage police seried rifles also tend to shoot very well. The Remmington R5 rifles shoot well. many of the others I dont trust for out of the box accuracy. Of those my top pick woult be the Tikka in the tactical version with the heavier threaded barrel. I would probably add a Smith Vortex flash suppressor. I would also strongly consider the 6.5 Creedmore in the same rifle unless there was a specific reason to go .308 like already having ammo brass dies etc. I will say that I am very impressed with the Savage police series rifles accuracy. One consideration to think about is what additional magazines cost and what type it uses.
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I've heard good things about 6.5. I leaned toward 308 because I thought it was cheaper. I may start to reload. Am I wrong? Weatherby also guarantees 1 MOA
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Stop being fucking poor and buy the Tikka. If your a godless peasant that cant afford anything better then a savage save your pennies tell you can get a Tikka. Far as caliber 6.5 is the only answer.
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I've been blessed with many things in this life: an arm like a damn rocket, a cock like a burmese python, and the mind of a fucking scientist.
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lol I'm actually a mechanical engineer who is not poor. But, on the behalf of the people who work hard and don't make enough, please save your pennies and shove them down your throat.
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Sarcasm is an art and I'm painting my master piece
NV, USA
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I've been blessed with many things in this life: an arm like a damn rocket, a cock like a burmese python, and the mind of a fucking scientist.
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Originally Posted By cmcque:
I've heard good things about 6.5. I leaned toward 308 because I thought it was cheaper. I may start to reload. Am I wrong? Weatherby also guarantees 1 MOA View Quote |
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I got it at the Costco.
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I would get the Tikka for sure out of those two. The Tikka T3X Tac A1 in 6.5 Creedmoor. Also you might want to look at the Bergara rifles. Their B-14 HMR and BMP are good rifles for the money.
http://www.bergarausa.com/Bergara_Rifles.php As to the 6.5 Creedmoor, factory match ammo is usually cheaper than .308 match and you get a higher BC bullet at faster velocities which leads to better ballistics for long range shooting. You should really consider it. |
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223 will work put to 600 to 800 yards no problem, have you considered that?
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I thought the Accu-trigger on a Savage was weird. After shooting it for a year, I now love the damn thing. Just a matter of getting used to it.
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Originally Posted By RePp:
Stop being fucking poor and buy the Tikka. If your a godless peasant that cant afford anything better then a savage save your pennies tell you can get a Tikka. Far as caliber 6.5 is the only answer. View Quote |
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The Tikka is what you seek. Get the CTR or the Tac A1 in 6.5. Lower recoil, cheapppp factory ammo and it's stupid accurate, in either 20 or 24 inch barrels.
I would also consider the Ruger precision, Remington 5R gen II, Remington Magpul edition, Howa has options and the Savage 10T is cheap and good. You need to pick a dollar limit and then decide how bad you want to modify the rifle, how quality an action you want on it, etc... the Tikka T3x CTR will take very little modification, none in fact, to shoot lights out. The trigger is crisp and adjustable, but it is a biiiitch to get the factory rail off. Ask me how I know. |
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Sarcasm is an art and I'm painting my master piece
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I've been blessed with many things in this life: an arm like a damn rocket, a cock like a burmese python, and the mind of a fucking scientist.
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I'll take a bolt action rifle over a break open rifle any day of the week.
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+1 for the Bergara B-14 HMR. It's available in 6.5 Creedmoor (the new hotness) and 308 (the old tried & true) and it's a lot of rifle for the $. If you just want a plinker, go with the 6.5. If you are thinking a SHTF precision rifle, go with the 308 purely for the availability of ammunition. It's reach isn't as good as the 6.5 but, in a real SHTF, the ~800 m (1/2 mile) effective range of the 308 is probably more than adequate...
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LOL SHTF? I love those rationalizations. I buy my rifles for real shooting in matches and practice and not some fantasy SHTF scenario that people have been talking about for many, many years like they will be laying down cover fire for days on end from their bunker. LOL And like there will be tons of .308 on the shelves or left laying behind. If you want a SHTF rifle you better plan to have ammo BEFORE the SHTF and not plan on getting it afterwards.
Nothing wrong with a .308 as I have 3 of them as well and shoot them a lot but the bottom line is the 6.5 is a better long range round and if you want better ballistics you will go 6.5. |
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Not a rationalization as much as a consideration... it's a fact that 308 ammo and reloading components are more commonly available than 6.5. 308 ammo is also available in far greater variety that 6.5. I don't really think in terms of SHTF but some folks do. I agree that you won't find anything useful after a true SHTF but there are sub-total SHTFs where that is not true... and it is easier/cheaper to stock pile high and deep stuff like military ball ammo for the 308 - there's no equivalent in 6.5... just sayin'...
Personally, when a friend of mine bought a 6.5 Creedmoor rifle about a year ago I did a little research and said to him, "They reinvented the 264 WinMag that came out in the 1960s but dialed back the performance... wow (why is this the new hotness?)!" I like tried and true ("common") and actually avoid the new hotness. Regarding centerfire calibers >>> I think that there are only 2 semi-auto pistol calibers worth thinking about - 9mm and 45 ACP - 10mm auto gets an honorable mention. 2 revolver calibers - 357 mag and 44 mag (38 & 44 specials are tag alongs)... 45 colt gets an honorable mention. Non-magnum rifle calibers - 3 > 243, 308, 45-70 - 270 gets an honorable mention. Magnum rifle calibers - 2 - 7mm mag & 300 win mag - 338 Lapua mag. gets an honorable mention (kind of a "new hotness" (less than 30 years old!) but fills a niche)... but that's just me, and some have told me that I'm nuts! Just discussing MY opinions... YMMV. Best, - R - |
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Originally Posted By Reorx:
Not a rationalization as much as a consideration... it's a fact that 308 ammo and reloading components are more commonly available than 6.5. 308 ammo is also available in far greater variety that 6.5. I don't really think in terms of SHTF but some folks do. I agree that you won't find anything useful after a true SHTF but there are sub-total SHTFs where that is not true... and it is easier/cheaper to stock pile high and deep stuff like military ball ammo for the 308 - there's no equivalent in 6.5... just sayin'... Best, - R - View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Reorx:
Not a rationalization as much as a consideration... it's a fact that 308 ammo and reloading components are more commonly available than 6.5. 308 ammo is also available in far greater variety that 6.5. I don't really think in terms of SHTF but some folks do. I agree that you won't find anything useful after a true SHTF but there are sub-total SHTFs where that is not true... and it is easier/cheaper to stock pile high and deep stuff like military ball ammo for the 308 - there's no equivalent in 6.5... just sayin'... Personally, when a friend of mine bought a 6.5 Creedmoor rifle about a year ago I did a little research and said to him, "They reinvented the 264 WinMag that came out in the 1960s but dialed back the performance... wow (why is this the new hotness?)!" I like tried and true ("common") and actually avoid the new hotness. Regarding centerfire calibers >>> I think that there are only 2 semi-auto pistol calibers worth thinking about - 9mm and 45 ACP - 10mm auto gets an honorable mention. 2 revolver calibers - 357 mag and 44 mag (38 & 44 specials are tag alongs)... 45 colt gets an honorable mention. Non-magnum rifle calibers - 3 > 243, 308, 45-70 - 270 gets an honorable mention. Magnum rifle calibers - 2 - 7mm mag & 300 win mag - 338 Lapua mag. gets an honorable mention (kind of a "new hotness" (less than 30 years old!) but fills a niche)... but that's just me, and some have told me that I'm nuts! Just discussing MY opinions... YMMV. Best, - R - View Quote |
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thankfor all the replies...if anyone is curious...I'm going with the Tikka T3x Lite Stainless in 308. 308 solely because the ammo is more widely available.
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Originally Posted By cmcque:
thankfor all the replies...if anyone is curious...I'm going with the Tikka T3x Lite Stainless in 308. 308 solely because the ammo is more widely available. View Quote |
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Great choice!
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