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Posted: 3/27/2017 4:01:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/27/2017 4:15:53 PM EDT
[#1]
Doesn't say anything about taking PMAGs
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Posted: 3/27/2017 4:17:56 PM EDT
[#2]
For what it's worth, my RPR, in 6.5, takes pmags.
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Posted: 3/27/2017 4:19:49 PM EDT
[#3]
Sonofabitch. I just spent a lot of money on a custom in AICS AX chassis to be my trainer for my RPR comp gun.
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Posted: 3/27/2017 4:20:06 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FoxDen:
For what it's worth, my RPR, in 6.5, takes pmags. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/27/2017 4:20:19 PM EDT
[#5]
I bet that's a lot of fun to shoot
1:7 will support the heavy projectiles too |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2017 4:30:09 PM EDT
[#6]
Two, 10-round, Ruger AI-Style Precision Rifle magazines |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2017 5:18:58 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By robpiat:
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By robpiat:
Two, 10-round, Ruger AI-Style Precision Rifle magazines |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2017 5:24:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Spearjunkie]
[#8]
You could build a nice AR for less that would shoot just as good and a lot lighter.
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KS, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2017 5:35:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: m6z]
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spearjunkie:
You could build a nice AR for less that would shoot just as good and a lot lighter. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2017 5:39:47 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spearjunkie:
You could build a nice AR for less that would shoot just as good and a lot lighter. Bolt guns are inherently easier to shoot precisely, so this may be a great option for someone wanting a fast twist, mag fed precision 223. |
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Posted: 3/27/2017 6:01:35 PM EDT
[#11]
YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have been bugging Ruger about this ever since the RPR came out. Now they just have to offer a mag with a longer COAL for the American ranch, or offer a new mag system as an accessory to be able to take the same mags as the 5.56 RPR. They also need to sell the ranch with a slightly heavier profile barrel. |
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Posted: 3/27/2017 6:06:59 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperJlarge:
Maybe, but being able to load longer and run the really high BC projectiles at decent speeds will be very appealing. Most of my precision AR builds have cost over a grand in parts, so it's not going to be much more expensive. Bolt guns are inherently easier to shoot precisely, so this may be a great option for someone wanting a fast twist, mag fed precision 223. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperJlarge:
Originally Posted By Spearjunkie:
You could build a nice AR for less that would shoot just as good and a lot lighter. Bolt guns are inherently easier to shoot precisely, so this may be a great option for someone wanting a fast twist, mag fed precision 223. ya, most people dont realize that with the 80gr+ bullets in a 5.56 NATO had the popential to have lets drop at a 1000 yards than a 308 win. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2017 6:35:53 PM EDT
[#13]
80gr ELD-M @ 2800fps...run that through a ballistic calculator and tell me how it looks.
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Posted: 3/27/2017 6:37:10 PM EDT
[#14]
huh is there much demand for one of these in 223?
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IN, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2017 6:40:52 PM EDT
[#15]
If not, there should be.
A 1:7" 223 arguably offers a LOT of advantages on a 308 if your game is punching paper or hitting steel; downsides are you HAVE to reload to see the advantages and relative lack of energy on target. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2017 7:55:50 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless:
huh is there much demand for one of these in 223? Personally a 1/7 .233/5.56 bolt gun would be nice for reloader's but off the shelf shooters might have a issue 1/7 you want a heavy bullet and match .223 in 75 or higher isn't that much cheaper than .308 in the grand scheme of things |
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Posted: 3/27/2017 11:26:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Lennyo3034]
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless:
huh is there much demand for one of these in 223? 
And picking up one of the RPRs in .223. Compared to the above rifle the Ruger would be lighter, better balanced, more ergonomic, faster cycling, more reprentative of my match rifle and with an aftermarket barrel, more accurate. For the price it cost to build the above rifle I could easily buy a RPR in .223 with aftermarket barrel, handguard , and trigger. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2017 12:02:49 AM EDT
[#18]
Any way to fit the 90 SMK's in there?
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Posted: 3/28/2017 12:15:36 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usmcchet9296:
Ruger is banking there is Personally a 1/7 .233/5.56 bolt gun would be nice for reloader's but off the shelf shooters might have a issue 1/7 you want a heavy bullet and match .223 in 75 or higher isn't that much cheaper than .308 in the grand scheme of things Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usmcchet9296:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
huh is there much demand for one of these in 223? Personally a 1/7 .233/5.56 bolt gun would be nice for reloader's but off the shelf shooters might have a issue 1/7 you want a heavy bullet and match .223 in 75 or higher isn't that much cheaper than .308 in the grand scheme of things |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2017 12:48:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
If you reload it is absolutely cheaper. Nosler had their 80's on sale for like $.12 or $.14 for quite a while 308 bullets rarely go under $.20. That adds up pretty quick. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By usmcchet9296:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
huh is there much demand for one of these in 223? Personally a 1/7 .233/5.56 bolt gun would be nice for reloader's but off the shelf shooters might have a issue 1/7 you want a heavy bullet and match .223 in 75 or higher isn't that much cheaper than .308 in the grand scheme of things |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 1:40:12 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless:
huh is there much demand for one of these in 223? |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 7:52:27 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usmcchet9296:
I think I said that Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usmcchet9296:
Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By usmcchet9296:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
huh is there much demand for one of these in 223? Personally a 1/7 .233/5.56 bolt gun would be nice for reloader's but off the shelf shooters might have a issue 1/7 you want a heavy bullet and match .223 in 75 or higher isn't that much cheaper than .308 in the grand scheme of things  I was tired and only saw your last paragraph not the one before it.
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Posted: 3/28/2017 7:52:44 AM EDT
[#23]
They did a good job with this. The mags look like rebranded MDT mags which will let you load out it about 2.500. That gives a pretty good leap in performance out of .223. Guys that run 223 to practice with often do this because of the performance game. I'm not in the market for RPR's but this rifle will do well and is spec'd out correctly. Using AR mags would have been a huge mistake.
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Posted: 3/28/2017 9:01:35 AM EDT
[#24]
I don't understand this one bit. To each his own though.
I think once a few of you RPR fans get ahold of this rifle, we should have a little RPR vs AR15 shoot-off for groups @ 100.
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Posted: 3/28/2017 9:04:38 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alpha0815:
I don't understand this one bit. To each his own though. I think once a few of you RPR fans get ahold of this rifle, we should have a little RPR vs AR15 shoot-off for groups @ 100. Also people who don't shoot out as far this is perfect for a lower price point option. |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 10:52:52 AM EDT
[#26]
Mods to make it in 6.5 grendel could be interdasting...
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Posted: 3/28/2017 11:14:12 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By themagikbullet:
Mods to make it in 6.5 grendel could be interdasting... The Grendel is fine for the limitations of the AR magwell. Without those limitations, what's the upside of a Grendel conversion? I agree that P-mags would have been a huge mistake. |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 11:37:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: themagikbullet]
[#28]
Lighter weight/recoil, cheaper ammo are a couple reasons.
If this was a compliment to a 6.5cr platform and you reload, I suppose you could share projectiles. Just think it might be neat 
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Posted: 3/28/2017 12:25:53 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alpha0815:
I don't understand this one bit. To each his own though. I think once a few of you RPR fans get ahold of this rifle, we should have a little RPR vs AR15 shoot-off for groups @ 100. RPR: 1200 Premium barrel: 650 Sell factory barrel: -150 I don't think I can build an AR for 1700 that will shoot with a premium barreled RPR. Actually my current DMR costs considerably more than 1700 and it does not shoot with my rebarreled RPR. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2017 7:46:24 PM EDT
[#30]
I've owned my RPR .308 since Sep 2015. Love the rifle, its one of my favorite to shoot. Below is my Mossberg MVP Patrol 5.56mm that I bought shortly after it was released. I tricked it out using the MDT LSS chassis. Spent way too much on the total rifle (north of $1600 including optic). It's another fun shooter. Can shoot 100rds of plinking ammo in a day and not break the bank. Only con, has a 1 in 9 twist barrel and doesn't like anything above 62gr. With all that said, I'd off the MVP for the RPR .223/5.56. There is a but though, if the rifle only use's AICS magazines, won't buy it. Needs to be like it's big brother and have multi-mag capabilities. I'm waiting for a response from Ruger.
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Posted: 3/28/2017 8:27:56 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lennyo3034:
This is very tempting. Although if I were to get one, I would mod it immediately: RPR: 1200 Premium barrel: 650 Sell factory barrel: -150 I don't think I can build an AR for 1700 that will shoot with a premium barreled RPR. Actually my current DMR costs considerably more than 1700 and it does not shoot with my rebarreled RPR. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lennyo3034:
Originally Posted By alpha0815:
I don't understand this one bit. To each his own though. I think once a few of you RPR fans get ahold of this rifle, we should have a little RPR vs AR15 shoot-off for groups @ 100. RPR: 1200 Premium barrel: 650 Sell factory barrel: -150 I don't think I can build an AR for 1700 that will shoot with a premium barreled RPR. Actually my current DMR costs considerably more than 1700 and it does not shoot with my rebarreled RPR. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 8:08:15 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jimmyc2112:
I've owned my RPR .308 since Sep 2015. Love the rifle, its one of my favorite to shoot. Below is my Mossberg MVP Patrol 5.56mm that I bought shortly after it was released. I tricked it out using the MDT LSS chassis. Spent way too much on the total rifle (north of $1600 including optic). It's another fun shooter. Can shoot 100rds of plinking ammo in a day and not break the bank. Only con, has a 1 in 9 twist barrel and doesn't like anything above 62gr. With all that said, I'd off the MVP for the RPR .223/5.56. There is a but though, if the rifle only use's AICS magazines, won't buy it. Needs to be like it's big brother and have multi-mag capabilities. I'm waiting for a response from Ruger. https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-pLnRnN4/0/L/i-pLnRnN4-L.jpg |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 12:36:23 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TeeRex:
Won't happen. The AICS pattern mags are the same size as the 308 sized mags, and allows 223 to be loaded out to 2.45" or so which gives the round a pretty big bump in performance. The MDT mags are fairly in expensive and t was a smart move on their part. PMAGs have no place in a precision bolt rifle. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TeeRex:
Originally Posted By jimmyc2112:
I've owned my RPR .308 since Sep 2015. Love the rifle, its one of my favorite to shoot. Below is my Mossberg MVP Patrol 5.56mm that I bought shortly after it was released. I tricked it out using the MDT LSS chassis. Spent way too much on the total rifle (north of $1600 including optic). It's another fun shooter. Can shoot 100rds of plinking ammo in a day and not break the bank. Only con, has a 1 in 9 twist barrel and doesn't like anything above 62gr. With all that said, I'd off the MVP for the RPR .223/5.56. There is a but though, if the rifle only use's AICS magazines, won't buy it. Needs to be like it's big brother and have multi-mag capabilities. I'm waiting for a response from Ruger. https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-pLnRnN4/0/L/i-pLnRnN4-L.jpg I am glad to see more and more guns adopt the AICS mags though because I hope it will bring us a better mag selection. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2017 8:29:26 PM EDT
[#34]
The rifle will only use AICS pattern mags. Reloaders will appreciate that, for the longer pills.
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USA
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Posted: 3/29/2017 10:22:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: andrewz71]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
I don't know about having no place. If your goal is easily accomplished with mag length ammo then cheap quality mags are a win win. Plenty of matches and normal shooting takes place at ranges easily handled by standard ammo I am glad to see more and more guns adopt the AICS mags though because I hope it will bring us a better mag selection. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 10:32:00 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spearjunkie:
You could build a nice AR for less that would shoot just as good and a lot lighter. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 10:33:07 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MDStroup:
HAHA! I thought you quoted yourself at first. ya, most people dont realize that with the 80gr+ bullets in a 5.56 NATO had the popential to have lets drop at a 1000 yards than a 308 win. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 10:36:11 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cone256:
Doesn't say anything about taking PMAGs 
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GA, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2017 10:38:24 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lennyo3034:
Sonofabitch. I just spent a lot of money on a custom in AICS AX chassis to be my trainer for my RPR comp gun. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 10:40:37 PM EDT
[#40]
People have been blowing $3-4k dollars for .223 replicas of their match guns for years now.
Ruger won't be able to make these fast enough to keep them in stock for awhile. |
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Posted: 3/29/2017 11:33:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: andrewz71]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ziarifleman:
People have been blowing $3-4k dollars for .223 replicas of their match guns for years now. Ruger won't be able to make these fast enough to keep them in stock for awhile. I might not have spent $3-4k finishing this trainer a couple months ago. 
But even thou I own this trainer and a 6.5 rpr I will still probably buy a 5.56 rpr as well. Way to go Ruger.  . Quality Optics are really starting to get expensive.
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Posted: 3/29/2017 11:58:30 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OldArmy:
Wow that sucks. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OldArmy:
Originally Posted By Lennyo3034:
Sonofabitch. I just spent a lot of money on a custom in AICS AX chassis to be my trainer for my RPR comp gun. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/30/2017 12:19:35 AM EDT
[#43]
Seems like the non-AR mag & associated length capabilities is a huge plus for this. I don't see the problem with buying a few ~$40 mags when you're likely spending $2K on the setup anyway.
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Posted: 3/30/2017 12:35:02 AM EDT
[#44]
I'm number 1 inline at my LGS.
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Posted: 3/30/2017 5:36:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: popnfresh]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
I don't know about having no place. If your goal is easily accomplished with mag length ammo then cheap quality mags are a win win. Plenty of matches and normal shooting takes place at ranges easily handled by standard ammo I am glad to see more and more guns adopt the AICS mags though because I hope it will bring us a better mag selection. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By TeeRex:
Originally Posted By jimmyc2112:
I've owned my RPR .308 since Sep 2015. Love the rifle, its one of my favorite to shoot. Below is my Mossberg MVP Patrol 5.56mm that I bought shortly after it was released. I tricked it out using the MDT LSS chassis. Spent way too much on the total rifle (north of $1600 including optic). It's another fun shooter. Can shoot 100rds of plinking ammo in a day and not break the bank. Only con, has a 1 in 9 twist barrel and doesn't like anything above 62gr. With all that said, I'd off the MVP for the RPR .223/5.56. There is a but though, if the rifle only use's AICS magazines, won't buy it. Needs to be like it's big brother and have multi-mag capabilities. I'm waiting for a response from Ruger. https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-pLnRnN4/0/L/i-pLnRnN4-L.jpg I am glad to see more and more guns adopt the AICS mags though because I hope it will bring us a better mag selection. Wish I would have known about this before I built my Grendel upper. Between the loading stuff and upper costs I would almost be at the same $$$. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 11:00:55 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By popnfresh:
No he is right, you would be ruining an otherwise great setup, just to use a fucking pmag, what's the point? The 7 twist is for using proper long range bullets most of which don't seat to pmag length. Wish I would have known about this before I built my Grendel upper. Between the loading stuff and upper costs I would almost be at the same $$. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By popnfresh:
Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By TeeRex:
Originally Posted By jimmyc2112:
I've owned my RPR .308 since Sep 2015. Love the rifle, its one of my favorite to shoot. Below is my Mossberg MVP Patrol 5.56mm that I bought shortly after it was released. I tricked it out using the MDT LSS chassis. Spent way too much on the total rifle (north of $1600 including optic). It's another fun shooter. Can shoot 100rds of plinking ammo in a day and not break the bank. Only con, has a 1 in 9 twist barrel and doesn't like anything above 62gr. With all that said, I'd off the MVP for the RPR .223/5.56. There is a but though, if the rifle only use's AICS magazines, won't buy it. Needs to be like it's big brother and have multi-mag capabilities. I'm waiting for a response from Ruger. https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-pLnRnN4/0/L/i-pLnRnN4-L.jpg I am glad to see more and more guns adopt the AICS mags though because I hope it will bring us a better mag selection. Wish I would have known about this before I built my Grendel upper. Between the loading stuff and upper costs I would almost be at the same $$. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 11:20:16 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
If it were pointless mossberg wouldn't be sellin them by the truckload. Like I said for what I want the aics mags are much better suited as is the fast twist but he vast majority of casual target shooters are plenty happy with 55-75gr ammo out of AR mags That being said, the "lower" or "chassis" portion of the RPR is what holds the magazine and is not serialized. It would be relatively easy to manufacture a second version of it to accept Pmags. That would be very cool if Ruger did something like that. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 12:13:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: andrewz71]
[#48]
Doing it the way Ruger did puts a new caliber to market with minimal cost. While allowing customers less expense to upgrade to different calipers with either a barrel swap or barrel and bolt swap. As well as allowing customers the ability to run 55gr. Plinking to 85gr. Precision shooting.
To Design and make a whole new lower just to run cheap ar15 mags loses the ability to run the longer cartridge oal, or more than 1/2 of the rifles potential customers to gain a few customers that want to run a mid priced "precision" rig with cheap mags to get marginal to ok accuracy. That is unless the lower could be design to run pmags as well as AICS, etc mags, but I don't see that happening. The way Ruger has done it we might see 6.5 grendal, 6.8 spc, 300 Blk., 22-250, etc. If they were going to go thru the hassle of designing a new lower I would rather see a option to run glock or 1911 mags to make a 9mm, or 45acp rig. But thats just me.
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Posted: 3/30/2017 1:26:39 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
If it were pointless mossberg wouldn't be sellin them by the truckload. Like I said for what I want the aics mags are much better suited as is the fast twist but he vast majority of casual target shooters are plenty happy with 55-75gr ammo out of AR mags |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 1:32:22 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Beneviolence:
Seems like the non-AR mag & associated length capabilities is a huge plus for this. I don't see the problem with buying a few ~$40 mags when you're likely spending $2K on the setup anyway.
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