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This build didn't cost me much, relatively. Thank God for student discounts.
All work done by me. Scope base and up is not "correct" but I'm a college student so don't hate. Remington 700 SA .300 WSM - Accurized 25" Shilen (From blank) PTG M16 Extractor on factory Rem bolt opened up to .740" McMillan A5 (From flat-top, action and cylinder full bed) Badger M5 DBM w/ Alpha Industries Type 3 Mag Larue Tactical 20 MOA Short Action base EGW Rings Vortex Viper PST 6-24x55 FFP Surefire MB762SSAL/RE |
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And what is that a clone of? Congrats on the build, but I'm not sure if it belongs in this thread.
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Originally Posted By sobieras:
Here are my "clones". First one is an A3 built at PWS by an active duty marine. He is also building me an A1 at the moment as well that will be finished as soon as McMillan is done with my stock :). Second is a remington made M24 from the rebuild program. Both shoot extremely well. Last picture is a Knights M110K1ish, still need the URX3.1 and Mk8. <a href="http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/scatsob/media/IMG_20140410_123830_zps1b18f4b8.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag114/scatsob/IMG_20140410_123830_zps1b18f4b8.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/scatsob/media/Mobile%20Uploads/ejt_zpsb728985e.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag114/scatsob/Mobile%20Uploads/ejt_zpsb728985e.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/scatsob/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140719_214519_zps0f058ded.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag114/scatsob/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140719_214519_zps0f058ded.jpg</a> View Quote Nice. Mind telling my how much that A3 cost minus optics? Was it built at PWS or is it a side business? |
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The Mk13 Mod 6 is a left handed Mod5. They are out there, and I've seen most at the sniper school at Bragg. The rifle you have pictured as a Mod6 is a prototype Mod7.
The correct, issued optic for the Mk13 Mod5, 5.5 and 6 - varies depending on service. The Navy uses Nightforce Mil-Spec 5.5-22x56 riflescopes and the Army was the Nightforce Mil-Spec 3.5-15x50F1. Individuals and various platoons may have swapped things out as desired, but the above are correct as issued from Crane-once it gets to the unit and individual, they can add what the want. As an FYI, I'm not familiar with any unit level purchase of Horus branded optics, but do know of Bushnell HDMR's and S&B's being used as alternatives at the small unit level. The Mod7's have either S&B PSR scopes, Night force 3.5-15x50F1 or Nightforce Mil-Spec 5.5-22x56 depending on service. |
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That'd be me - that was around before the Mod7 was actually officially settled and accepted. Specifically the dark earth color and base to make a long continuous upper rail, but look at the magwell cutout - that's a prototype stock. The Army is the only ones I've seen with left handed Mk13's, but that doesn't mean the Navy doesn't have them, it's just that I haven't seen them.
Again, individuals may have added what they wanted - especially in the beginning when there weren't a lot of Horus based scopes readily available. Just because you have a picture with one doesn't mean it was regularly used. I can find pics of a USO equipped Mk13 Mod5 and M40A5's with Nightforce F1's, but it doesn't mean they were regular issue. |
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It was built at PWS in Quantico. My cost is pretty skewed because I got some parts for almost nothing and the action was free from parting out a gun. Below is what all the parts would run.
Action $400 or so Barrel $350 Bottom metal $330 Stock $900 Recoil lug $30 Scope rail $415 for DD Ross $200 for badger (I got the DD Ross unit) Rings with SIMRAD cap $325 M24 trigger $300+ if you can find one PGW EFR $250 That's well into $3k just for the parts. Obviously if you shop around you can get deal here and there. I fell into my M24 trigger from a neighbor of mine. I also watched gunbroker for scope and was able to snag one for $2800 which I thought was a pretty good deal. |
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Edited OP for better ease of reading and updated information
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As an FYI, the base on the Mk13 Mod7 is an AI base designed for the Stiller Mk13 action. The AAC Mk13SD is also a correct brake and suppressor for this rifle.
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Originally Posted By Lawman734:
As an FYI, the base on the Mk13 Mod7 is an AI base designed for the Stiller Mk13 action. The AAC Mk13SD is also a correct brake and suppressor for this rifle. View Quote Yeah. I forgot to to fix that. I got carried away with copy/paste |
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Also, the Badger DBM is correct for the M40A3. The A5 designation comes when the SureFire brake is added.
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Originally Posted By sobieras: Also, the Badger DBM is correct for the M40A3. The A5 designation comes when the SureFire brake is added. View Quote |
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Mk12 didn't make the list.
But for cereal though, that short-action XM3 is fucking sweet. |
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Originally Posted By RTUtah: Mk12 didn't make the list. But for cereal though, that short-action XM3 is fucking sweet. View Quote I wonder of there will be droves of Mk13 Mod 1s or that other .300 WM that the Navy uses when the American Sniper movie comes out like what Lone Survivor did for the Mk12s
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Originally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By RTUtah: Mk12 didn't make the list. But for cereal though, that short-action XM3 is fucking sweet. View Quote View Quote I wonder of there will be droves of Mk13 Mod 1s or that other .300 WM that the Navy uses when the American Sniper movie comes out like what Lone Survivor did for the Mk12s Haha, I kid I kid. When is that flick supposed to come out? |
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Originally Posted By dangerdan:
My Mk13 Mod 5.5-ish -Remington 700 Long Action -M16 extractor mod -Lilja 26" .300 WM MK13 contour (1/10" twist). I opted to have it profiled for a Knights M110 suppressor - KAC M110 suppressor -AICS 2.0 -Remington MARS 30MOA - S&B 5-25x56 PSR with H-59 reticle mounted in a Spuhr 0 MOA mount Bolt fluted and tac knob done by Long Rifles, Inc <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/Guns/AB84F4DF-867B-4568-9765-BDB5D068655E_zpsdkqvu2gu.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/AB84F4DF-867B-4568-9765-BDB5D068655E_zpsdkqvu2gu.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/Guns/8D48512F-EBFB-4A01-84AC-3751D3EBFF0C_zps36omrll7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/8D48512F-EBFB-4A01-84AC-3751D3EBFF0C_zps36omrll7.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/Guns/null_zpsd55b566e.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/null_zpsd55b566e.jpg</a> View Quote Are you cool with that knob being offset like that? |
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman: Originally Posted By dangerdan: My Mk13 Mod 5.5-ish -Remington 700 Long Action -M16 extractor mod -Lilja 26" .300 WM MK13 contour (1/10" twist). I opted to have it profiled for a Knights M110 suppressor - KAC M110 suppressor -AICS 2.0 -Remington MARS 30MOA - S&B 5-25x56 PSR with H-59 reticle mounted in a Spuhr 0 MOA mount Bolt fluted and tac knob done by Long Rifles, Inc <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/Guns/AB84F4DF-867B-4568-9765-BDB5D068655E_zpsdkqvu2gu.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/AB84F4DF-867B-4568-9765-BDB5D068655E_zpsdkqvu2gu.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/Guns/8D48512F-EBFB-4A01-84AC-3751D3EBFF0C_zps36omrll7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/8D48512F-EBFB-4A01-84AC-3751D3EBFF0C_zps36omrll7.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/Guns/null_zpsd55b566e.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/null_zpsd55b566e.jpg</a> View Quote Are you cool with that knob being offset like that? View Quote Long Rifles, Inc does great work
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Interesting idea, I am down for the historical perspective. Not a huge fan of the "Poser Factor"!
Not sure how many pics you want to post here, but there are a bunch at the Hog Saddle website, especially of the USMC stuff: http://www.hogsaddle.com/overseas.html Also may want to add: M21 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M21_Sniper_Weapon_System M110 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M110_Semi-Automatic_Sniper_System M2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2010_Enhanced_Sniper_Rifle Thanks, Best of Luck, M Richardson PS: if you want the true dirt on anything Army Sniper related, track down Sinister, he is a walking encyclopedia. |
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In on this thread, trying to join the Mk13 Mod 5 party. I figured I'll have to budget every bit of $8k to put this thing together. I'm thinking the first step will either be to 1) purchase the KAC Mk11 Suppressor or 2) Secure the Chassis
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Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire:
In on this thread, trying to join the Mk13 Mod 5 party. I figured I'll have to budget every bit of $8k to put this thing together. I'm thinking the first step will either be to 1) purchase the KAC Mk11 Suppressor or 2) Secure the Chassis View Quote I'd try to find the Mk11 suppressor since they're fairly limited. Chassis's can be picked up fairly easily..... I had some friends spin me up a Mod5 contour barrel for a Mk11 suppressor I had laying around without a rifle. I'll get it built up someday. It's definitely a different setup, even if not the most ideal way of mounting a suppressor. It's capable of good accuracy, the limiting factor is the suppressor in that it needs to be "shot in" and then if it's bumped at all, accuracy goes to shit. I shot the Mk13 Mod5 that's pictured sitting on a porch extensively. This was a new rifle, but cranked out 1/2MOA groups without any issues - until the suppressor got a good lateral knock. |
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Originally Posted By Lawman734: Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire: In on this thread, trying to join the Mk13 Mod 5 party. I figured I'll have to budget every bit of $8k to put this thing together. I'm thinking the first step will either be to 1) purchase the KAC Mk11 Suppressor or 2) Secure the Chassis View Quote I'd try to find the Mk11 suppressor since they're fairly limited. Chassis's can be picked up fairly easily..... I had some friends spin me up a Mod5 contour barrel for a Mk11 suppressor I had laying around without a rifle. I'll get it built up someday. It's definitely a different setup, even if not the most ideal way of mounting a suppressor. It's capable of good accuracy, the limiting factor is the suppressor in that it needs to be "shot in" and then if it's bumped at all, accuracy goes to shit. I shot the Mk13 Mod5 that's pictured sitting on a porch extensively. This was a new rifle, but cranked out 1/2MOA groups without any issues - until the suppressor got a good lateral knock. View Quote Does Crane crank out barrels with the generic dimentions or do they fit each suppressor? I had to send my suppressor in to be fitted
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Originally Posted By captrichardson:
Interesting idea, I am down for the historical perspective. Not a huge fan of the "Poser Factor"! Not sure how many pics you want to post here, but there are a bunch at the Hog Saddle website, especially of the USMC stuff: http://www.hogsaddle.com/overseas.html Also may want to add: M21 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M21_Sniper_Weapon_System <a href="http://s36.photobucket.com/user/captcarbine/media/M21_zps9abffea4.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/captcarbine/M21_zps9abffea4.jpg</a> M110 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M110_Semi-Automatic_Sniper_System <a href="http://s36.photobucket.com/user/captcarbine/media/M110_zpsf44cf42e.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/captcarbine/M110_zpsf44cf42e.jpg</a> M2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2010_Enhanced_Sniper_Rifle <a href="http://s36.photobucket.com/user/captcarbine/media/XM2010_zps2bd6cab1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/captcarbine/XM2010_zps2bd6cab1.jpg</a> Thanks, Best of Luck, M Richardson PS: if you want the true dirt on anything Army Sniper related, track down Sinister, he is a walking encyclopedia. View Quote The reasoning why I left out the M21 and variants thereof, is because it's more of a DMR than a primary sniper rifle, and should be posted in the M1A section. The same for the M110 and Mk11, although not a DMR, it should be posted in the AR variant forum or KAC forum. This is really the only subforum for bolt guns. I'll work on the XM2010. Trying to dig up more specs. I assume the barrel is made by Remington. I'm not sure on the specs. The only viable stock option that I see for an XM2010 clone is the Drake Associates chassis. |
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Originally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By RTUtah: Mk12 didn't make the list. But for cereal though, that short-action XM3 is fucking sweet. View Quote View Quote I wonder of there will be droves of Mk13 Mod 1s or that other .300 WM that the Navy uses when the American Sniper movie comes out like what Lone Survivor did for the Mk12s According to Kevin, HCS built at least a couple MK13s for the film.
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Im just here to support the dirty Marine. Nah finally a thread I can post pics in besides block 1. Pics up shortly dirty Dan
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Originally Posted By dangerdan:
The reasoning why I left out the M21 and variants thereof, is because it's more of a DMR than a primary sniper rifle, and should be posted in the M1A section. The same for the M110 and Mk11, although not a DMR, it should be posted in the AR variant forum or KAC forum. This is really the only subforum for bolt guns. I'll work on the XM2010. Trying to dig up more specs. I assume the barrel is made by Remington. I'm not sure on the specs. The only viable stock option that I see for an XM2010 clone is the Drake Associates chassis. View Quote The M21 actually was the primary US Army Sniper Rifle during the 60s, 70s, 80s, until the M24 came into the picture in 1988. I completed my first Sniper School in 1986 with a M21. It latter became more of a DMR rifle when it was re-issued post 9/11 in Iraq & Astan. If you are good with the M1A section covering it, so be it. The M110 actually replaced the M24 in a number of units as the primary Sniper Rifle. If you want to call it good with the other sections, so be it. The 2010: Specs: http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/Firearms/Sniper%20Rifles/XM2010.aspx http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2010_Enhanced_Sniper_Rifle If you check the references at the bottom, there are a number of additional resources. You can actually purchase a RACS chassis if you would like: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/3/products_id/711006212/RACS+Remington+Accessory+Chassis+System+Complete+Assembly+Fits+M/ So if you are the person that must have a 100% correct reproduction, it is possible, though it will cost you over $4K! Thanks, Best of Luck, M Richardson |
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Originally Posted By captrichardson: Originally Posted By dangerdan: The reasoning why I left out the M21 and variants thereof, is because it's more of a DMR than a primary sniper rifle, and should be posted in the M1A section. The same for the M110 and Mk11, although not a DMR, it should be posted in the AR variant forum or KAC forum. This is really the only subforum for bolt guns. I'll work on the XM2010. Trying to dig up more specs. I assume the barrel is made by Remington. I'm not sure on the specs. The only viable stock option that I see for an XM2010 clone is the Drake Associates chassis. View Quote The M21 actually was the primary US Army Sniper Rifle during the 60s, 70s, 80s, until the M24 came into the picture in 1988. I completed my first Sniper School in 1986 with a M21. It latter became more of a DMR rifle when it was re-issued post 9/11 in Iraq & Astan. If you are good with the M1A section covering it, so be it. The M110 actually replaced the M24 in a number of units as the primary Sniper Rifle. If you want to call it good with the other sections, so be it. The 2010: Specs: http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/Firearms/Sniper%20Rifles/XM2010.aspx http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2010_Enhanced_Sniper_Rifle If you check the references at the bottom, there are a number of additional resources. You can actually purchase a RACS chassis if you would like: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/3/products_id/711006212/RACS+Remington+Accessory+Chassis+System+Complete+Assembly+Fits+M/ So if you are the person that must have a 100% correct reproduction, it is possible, though it will cost you over $4K! Thanks, Best of Luck, M Richardson View Quote $4K for that chassis? Wow... That's a new level of insanity.
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Originally Posted By captrichardson:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
The reasoning why I left out the M21 and variants thereof, is because it's more of a DMR than a primary sniper rifle, and should be posted in the M1A section. The same for the M110 and Mk11, although not a DMR, it should be posted in the AR variant forum or KAC forum. This is really the only subforum for bolt guns. I'll work on the XM2010. Trying to dig up more specs. I assume the barrel is made by Remington. I'm not sure on the specs. The only viable stock option that I see for an XM2010 clone is the Drake Associates chassis. View Quote The M21 actually was the primary US Army Sniper Rifle during the 60s, 70s, 80s, until the M24 came into the picture in 1988. I completed my first Sniper School in 1986 with a M21. It latter became more of a DMR rifle when it was re-issued post 9/11 in Iraq & Astan. If you are good with the M1A section covering it, so be it. The M110 actually replaced the M24 in a number of units as the primary Sniper Rifle. If you want to call it good with the other sections, so be it. The 2010: Specs: http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/Firearms/Sniper%20Rifles/XM2010.aspx http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2010_Enhanced_Sniper_Rifle If you check the references at the bottom, there are a number of additional resources. You can actually purchase a RACS chassis if you would like: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/3/products_id/711006212/RACS+Remington+Accessory+Chassis+System+Complete+Assembly+Fits+M/ So if you are the person that must have a 100% correct reproduction, it is possible, though it will cost you over $4K! Thanks, Best of Luck, M Richardson View Quote $4K for that chassis? Wow... That's a new level of insanity. View Quote There are a number of questionable things about the 2010. |
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The XM3 sure is sexy... http://www.shootingillustrated.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/W7361SI-8925CLIP21.jpg http://stevereicherttraining.com/wp-content/uploads/7-620x413.jpg https://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llm6dlA3VN1qi3dwio1_500.jpg http://www.gunpundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/shot09-xm3-and-40-xs.jpg http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i119/allaboutbob/m40andxm3.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0RA1KUPzW90/VAgkxqxjiWI/AAAAAAAAD40/2_cAyrTbCeg/s1600/XM-3%2B(1).JPG http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-P17QEheiNuA/VAgk1U0NrxI/AAAAAAAAD48/gK0kzABaCUY/s1600/XM-3%2B(2).JPG http://33.media.tumblr.com/14351a3c19b7308422fcb8ad0361e810/tumblr_nc031dOHr11qbqq0oo1_500.jpg View Quote +1 I would love to have one of those. Of all the bolt guns I could see myself getting the most use out of it. |
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Going through several pics of the XM3, it looks like some might have fluted barrels.
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Trying to locate an online retailer that offers the A2 or A3 McMillan stock (for an XM3 build) at a decent price - any recommendations?
EDIT: I meant, A 1-3
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Pricing seems to be about the same wherever you go, it's just a matter of how fast you can get it. I called George at GA Precision to get one he had in stock for my build. I wasn't concerned about color because paint fixes everything, but I didnt want to wait 5+ months from McMillan at the time.
I've got an XM2010 with the RACS chassis (actually plan on selling it). It's nothing special - Remington long action with a Remmy barrel and an AAC Titan QD mount.The contour is specific to the rifle. I do know Bartlein has the specs for the contour as that's where I got mine. |
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If you want one now, McMIllan has one ready to go for $525, I'd buy it before I do :)
There is also a few listed on Snipershide from $410 |
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Originally Posted By gutermung919: If you want one now, McMIllan has one ready to go for $525, I'd buy it before I do :) There is also a few listed on Snipershide from $410 View Quote Where on SnipersHide? I can't seem to find them.
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Great thread. I have a rifle I bought used that seems to lean towards M40A5, but it is not close enough to "correct" for me to post it here.
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The ones on snipershide are in the options for sale section, They're prolly a few pages in by now, but im sure if you do a search they'll pop up. One is a guy that was doing a xm3 clone, and the other listing is a company that bought a bunch of them and is now selling them for 410, #5 and #7 barrel channels
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If anyone is interested, here is the story about how the XM3 came to be: http://stevereicherttraining.com/darpa-xm3/
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