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Posted: 5/10/2015 11:10:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HighpowerRifleBrony]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pbjunkiee: Not happy with the groups :( First time out. 77gr CBC OTMs Ran out, thus only 4 groups, sorry. Average is 1.701 MOA NOT HAPPY  http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b57/pbjunkiee/Screen%20Shot%202015-05-10%20at%209.23.07%20PM_zpsor6fy5ok.png Hmm. The left side has more vertical stringing, and the right side has more horizontal stringing. Did you check your Natural Point of Aim? |
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Posted: 5/10/2015 11:15:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony:
Hmm. The left side has more vertical stringing, and the right side has more horizontal stringing. Did you check your Natural Point of Aim? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony:
Originally Posted By pbjunkiee:
Not happy with the groups :( First time out. 77gr CBC OTMs Ran out, thus only 4 groups, sorry. Average is 1.701 MOA NOT HAPPY
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b57/pbjunkiee/Screen%20Shot%202015-05-10%20at%209.23.07%20PM_zpsor6fy5ok.png Hmm. The left side has more vertical stringing, and the right side has more horizontal stringing. Did you check your Natural Point of Aim? Expand? |
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Posted: 5/11/2015 12:48:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HighpowerRifleBrony]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pbjunkiee: Expand? It seems like you fired the left side first and was rusty on the trigger, then went to the right without adjusting your body and rifle orientation. This can cause muscular tension and pull shots during recoil. Or you fired the right with an improper NPA, and got fatigued on the left. In my experience, vertical stringing is usually caused by inconsistent ammo/wrong node, inconsistent trigger squeeze, or pulse. Horizontal is more common with tall, round stocked rifles like the AR, because it's easier to cant due to leverage, muscular tension as mentioned, and wind. ETA: and inconsistent trigger finger placement. I don't think CBC's been praised for it's precision, but I figure it to be <1.25 MOA capable. |
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Posted: 5/11/2015 1:10:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony:
It seems like you fired the left side first and was rusty on the trigger, then went to the right without adjusting your body and rifle orientation. This can cause muscular tension and pull shots during recoil. Or you fired the right with an improper NPA, and got fatigued on the left. In my experience, vertical stringing is usually caused by inconsistent ammo/wrong node, inconsistent trigger squeeze, or pulse. Horizontal is more common with tall, round stocked rifles like the AR, because it's easier to cant due to leverage, muscular tension as mentioned, and wind. ETA: and inconsistent trigger finger placement. I don't think CBC's been praised for it's precision, but I figure it to be <1.25 MOA capable. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony:
Originally Posted By pbjunkiee:
Expand? It seems like you fired the left side first and was rusty on the trigger, then went to the right without adjusting your body and rifle orientation. This can cause muscular tension and pull shots during recoil. Or you fired the right with an improper NPA, and got fatigued on the left. In my experience, vertical stringing is usually caused by inconsistent ammo/wrong node, inconsistent trigger squeeze, or pulse. Horizontal is more common with tall, round stocked rifles like the AR, because it's easier to cant due to leverage, muscular tension as mentioned, and wind. ETA: and inconsistent trigger finger placement. I don't think CBC's been praised for it's precision, but I figure it to be <1.25 MOA capable. Sounds accurate. This was the first time in a while I have been out to shoot groups. For the past few months I've been doing mobile/ run&gun stuff. Felt nice to sit on the bench for the day. Probably will go back out again in a few weeks |
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Posted: 5/11/2015 11:59:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: LampShadeActual]
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Details on Photo. Shot off bipod, no rear bag.
Scoped bolt rifle at 100 yards. LampShadeActual. Remington M700PSS .223 Remington 1:9 twist Harris bipod Leupold 3.5x10x50mmTarget scope Leupold dual dovetail rings. Federal Gold Medal Match 69 grain. Groups: 1.25" 0.94" 1.0" 0.44" 0.88" = 4.51" /5 = 0.90" average = 0.860 MOA. (Noteworthy is that these groups were fired doing a box test one shot per corner at a time. The upper left target MOA includes the 25th shot when I did the high one and includes all five shots on the center diamond adjusting upwards slightly to center the last shot in the group. Thats why the diamond has one up from the four. |
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Posted: 5/11/2015 12:30:31 PM EDT
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Sadly no update from me this week. Brought the 308 Tobr to the range but didn't have a chance to reload much the week prior. Pulled a bunch of factory ammo out instead. Had HORRIBLE luck with crap SSA 175gr and Nosler. Primers blown out, split in half, etc... No problems with any other brand (FGMM, Hornady, etc...), but totally ruined my day. Switched over to the SBR's and just blasted to have fun.
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Posted: 5/11/2015 12:32:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LampShadeActual:
Details on Photo. Shot off bipod, no rear bag. http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn2/spkii1/photo_zpshlfpd7qh.jpg?t=1431273461 that's damn nice for a box test |
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Posted: 5/25/2015 5:50:30 PM EDT
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I wasn't planning on submitting this as I'm going to beat it soon I hope, but... Why not.
This was shot testing out 3 different types of ammo from an 18" Larue 7.62 PredaTobr Top Left: American Eagle M1A 168gr OTM Top Right: Black Hills 168gr HPBT Center: American Eagle M1A 168gr OTM Bottom Left: FGMM 168gr Bottom Right: FGMM 168gr 1. Pic of target 
2. Pic of groups 
3. I need to get a new caliper battery but for now here's a crappy tape measure on a group 
4. 2 pictures of the rifle as shot. First pic shows how little space I had to go prone at this bench, 2nd pic is from the side of the rifle 
SPR 100yd; Mike_P: Larue 18" 7.62 PredaTobr with SilencerCo Saker 7.62 - Vortex Razor HD 5-20x in an LT135, FGMM 168gr, Fed AE M1A, BH 168gr Match, Groups 0.966 / 0.843 / 0.879 / 0.637 / 0.458 = avg .756 MOA |
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Posted: 5/25/2015 10:46:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mike_P:
I wasn't planning on submitting this as I'm going to beat it soon I hope, but... Why not. This was shot testing out 3 different types of ammo from an 18" Larue 7.62 PredaTobr Top ']SPR 100yd; Mike_P: Larue 18" 7.62 PredaTobr with SilencerCo Saker 7.62 - Vortex Razor HD 5-20x in an LT135, FGMM 168gr, Fed AE M1A, BH 168gr Match, Groups 0.966 / 0.843 / 0.879 / 0.637 / 0.458 = avg .756 MOA[/span] That shooting position looks miserable. Did you use your chin to absorb the recoil? 
Great shooting though. |
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Posted: 5/25/2015 11:22:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lennyo3034:
That shooting position looks miserable. Did you use your chin to absorb the recoil?
Great shooting though. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lennyo3034:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
I wasn't planning on submitting this as I'm going to beat it soon I hope, but... Why not. This was shot testing out 3 different types of ammo from an 18" Larue 7.62 PredaTobr Top ']SPR 100yd; Mike_P: Larue 18" 7.62 PredaTobr with SilencerCo Saker 7.62 - Vortex Razor HD 5-20x in an LT135, FGMM 168gr, Fed AE M1A, BH 168gr Match, Groups 0.966 / 0.843 / 0.879 / 0.637 / 0.458 = avg .756 MOA[/span] That shooting position looks miserable. Did you use your chin to absorb the recoil?
Great shooting though. Definitely wasn't fun. But with that said I've been in worse positions before.  Getting up was a pain with herniated discs.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 12:05:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tunabomber]
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I finally got around to attempting this challenge.
 Weather was perfect, 69 degrees and sunny with 5-7mph winds. I forgot my "official" targets and my rear squeeze bag, so I had to make due. Range at 100 yards: (Lake Michigan is just over the large berm)  The results:  The non OnTarget target with smallest group:  The rifle:  Bolt Division with magnified optics, Tunabomber: Remington 700 5R Milspec .308 - Manners T4A with mini-chassis, AAC Cyclone, 18" barrel - Nightforce 12-42x56 benchrest scope - Handloads - Groups 0.415"/0.744"/0.469"/0.228"/0.734" = Average 0.518" = .495 MOA. Handloads were 178 AMAX over 43.6 gr of Varget in new Lapua cases. COAL of 2.935, .010 off the lands...absurd Remington chambers.  The OnTarget pic is sideways, POI was around a half inch low. Let me know if I missed anything... |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 1:25:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tunabomber: -snip- Handloads were 178 AMAX over 43.6 gr of Varget in new Lapua cases. COAL of 2.935, .010 off the lands...absurd Remington chambers. The OnTarget pic is sideways, POI was around a half inch low. Let me know if I missed anything... But... but it's milspec.  |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 1:31:22 PM EDT
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Curious when the next update is going through? For whatever reason I wasn't put in on the last update even though im pretty sure I included everything required. Maybe the 22lr's weren't updated.
4/12 submission here -Mike |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 1:34:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mjmjr1312:
Curious when the next update is going through? For whatever reason I wasn't put in on the last update even though im pretty sure I included everything required. Maybe the 22lr's weren't updated. 4/12 submission here -Mike Probably this weekend. I see you fixed your post. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 2:53:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tunabomber:
<snip> Let me know if I missed anything... You did hit just the edge of the bullseye on a couple. 
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:00:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
You did hit just the edge of the bullseye on a couple. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By Tunabomber:
<snip> Let me know if I missed anything... You did hit just the edge of the bullseye on a couple. Pshhh... Bullseyes!! I'll rezero with the 168gr FGMM and go for all bullseyes this weekend. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 12:35:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical: You did hit just the edge of the bullseye on a couple. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical: Originally Posted By Tunabomber: <snip> Let me know if I missed anything... You did hit just the edge of the bullseye on a couple. Next up on the challenge block is one of your uppers, using your scope mounts. I'll make sure to hit the center this time. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 1:06:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: spartacus2002]
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Not my best shooting; I could barely see the targets at 100 yards with a 10x scope. Any chance we can color the BFLs in with magic marker?
Range Setup at 100 yards 
Full Target - group sizes are center-to-center 
Best Target 
Rifle Setup 
Bolt division with magnified optics at 100 yards, Spartacus2002: SM Custom Rifles LLC in .308, 26” Shilen barrel, Manners T4 stock with aluminum bedding chassis – Vortex 2-10x PST scope – Black Hills 175gr HPBT Match. Groups: .380”/.516”/.523”/.653”/.737” = avg .567” = .537 MOA |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 5:08:57 PM EDT
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Very nice shooting Spartacus!
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Posted: 5/29/2015 6:10:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spartacus2002:
Not my best shooting; I could barely see the targets at 100 yards with a 10x scope. Any chance we can color the BFLs in with magic marker?
Range Setup at 100 yards http://i60.tinypic.com/29z330m.jpg Full Target - group sizes are center-to-center http://i60.tinypic.com/kcjm06.jpg Best Target http://i59.tinypic.com/125i55g.jpg Rifle Setup http://i57.tinypic.com/jrzlz6.jpg Bolt division with magnified optics at 100 yards, Spartacus2002: SM Custom Rifles LLC in .308, 26” Shilen barrel, Manners T4 stock with aluminum bedding chassis – Vortex 2-10x PST scope – Black Hills 175gr HPBT Match. Groups: .380”/.516”/.523”/.653”/.737” = avg .567” = .537 MOA Beautiful rifle! |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 6:20:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jaqufrost:
Very nice shooting Spartacus! Thanks! After I get some more Black Hills ammo in, I'm going to shoot the course of fire again. |
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Posted: 5/31/2015 8:55:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: akethan]
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Updated............ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LampShadeActual:
Details on Photo. Shot off bipod, no rear bag. http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn2/spkii1/photo_zpshlfpd7qh.jpg?t=1431273461 Scoped bolt rifle at 100 yards. LampShadeActual. Remington M700PSS .223 Remington 1:9 twist Harris bipod Leupold 3.5x10x50mmTarget scope Leupold dual dovetail rings. Federal Gold Medal Match 69 grain. Groups: 1.25" 0.94" 1.0" 0.44" 0.88" = 4.51" /5 = 0.90" average = 0.860 MOA. (Noteworthy is that these groups were fired doing a box test one shot per corner at a time. The upper left target MOA includes the 25th shot when I did the high one and includes all five shots on the center diamond adjusting upwards slightly to center the last shot in the group. Thats why the diamond has one up from the four. Sorry you're missing the rest of the pics. |
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Posted: 5/31/2015 8:12:37 PM EDT
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Didn't get in much shooting time today. They were doing controlled burns on post so the Fire Dpt. showed up at random and they shut the range down without notice.
Was a bit rushed, but shot an average of .709 moa from the 18" Tobr today. Not going to bother submitting it as it's not a big enough difference from last weeks. 
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Posted: 5/31/2015 10:05:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Old_Painless]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mike_P:
Didn't get in much shooting time today. They were doing controlled burns on post so the Fire Dpt. showed up at random and they shut the range down without notice.
Was a bit rushed, but shot an average of .709 moa from the 18" Tobr today. Not going to bother submitting it as it's not a big enough difference from last weeks. http://www.mywrx.net/tobrt2.jpg A suggestion: Use a smaller point of aim. Use the bottom (or top) of those diamonds as your point of aim. Aim small, hit small.
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Posted: 5/31/2015 10:14:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Old_Painless:
A suggestion: Use a smaller point of aim. Use the bottom (or top) of those diamonds as your point of aim. Aim small, hit small.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Old_Painless:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Didn't get in much shooting time today. They were doing controlled burns on post so the Fire Dpt. showed up at random and they shut the range down without notice.
Was a bit rushed, but shot an average of .709 moa from the 18" Tobr today. Not going to bother submitting it as it's not a big enough difference from last weeks. http://www.mywrx.net/tobrt2.jpg A suggestion: Use a smaller point of aim. Use the bottom (or top) of those diamonds as your point of aim. Aim small, hit small.
It was certainly not my best day, that's for sure.  I'll clean it up next time.
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Posted: 5/31/2015 10:54:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LaRue_Tactical]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mike_P:
It was certainly not my best day, that's for sure. I'll clean it up next time.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mike_P:
Originally Posted By Old_Painless:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Didn't get in much shooting time today. They were doing controlled burns on post so the Fire Dpt. showed up at random and they shut the range down without notice.
Was a bit rushed, but shot an average of .709 moa from the 18" Tobr today. Not going to bother submitting it as it's not a big enough difference from last weeks. http://www.mywrx.net/tobrt2.jpg A suggestion: Use a smaller point of aim. Use the bottom (or top) of those diamonds as your point of aim. Aim small, hit small.
It was certainly not my best day, that's for sure. I'll clean it up next time.Zero sits real still.
ETA - I averaged Top 10 of SPR and Bolt Gun ... Top 10 SPR = 0.6352 moa (4 entries shot with factory ammo) Top 10 Bolt gun magnified optics = 0.4884 moa (only 1 entry shot with factory ammo) There is 0.1468 moa separating the two divisions. |
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Posted: 5/31/2015 11:51:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mike_P]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Zero sits real still.
ETA - I averaged Top 10 of SPR and Bolt Gun ... Top 10 SPR = 0.6352 moa (4 entries shot with factory ammo) Top 10 Bolt gun magnified optics = 0.4884 moa (only 1 entry shot with factory ammo) There is 0.1468 moa separating the two divisions. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Originally Posted By Old_Painless:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Didn't get in much shooting time today. They were doing controlled burns on post so the Fire Dpt. showed up at random and they shut the range down without notice.
Was a bit rushed, but shot an average of .709 moa from the 18" Tobr today. Not going to bother submitting it as it's not a big enough difference from last weeks. http://www.mywrx.net/tobrt2.jpg A suggestion: Use a smaller point of aim. Use the bottom (or top) of those diamonds as your point of aim. Aim small, hit small.
It was certainly not my best day, that's for sure. I'll clean it up next time.Zero sits real still.
ETA - I averaged Top 10 of SPR and Bolt Gun ... Top 10 SPR = 0.6352 moa (4 entries shot with factory ammo) Top 10 Bolt gun magnified optics = 0.4884 moa (only 1 entry shot with factory ammo) There is 0.1468 moa separating the two divisions. It sure does. Quite impressive. A few of the guys at the range want me to disassemble it completely and then reassemble and shoot it. 
Might just have to record myself doing that and give it a go. See where we end up. I know it's been done, but if I can do it quickly AND manage to shoot the 25 rounds in the 10 minute cycle, I think it might be relatively impressive. I've got to talk with the guys who run the range and see if they can give me a break on the no touching your weapon when the range is cold. See if they'll let me touch it when it's in pieces. I've got to get to shooting that 12" more as well. I've just been slacking on the 223 reloading since I've been so focused on the Tobr and trying to get my 300 Blackout reloading back up and running. |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 7:55:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Zero sits real still.
ETA - I averaged Top 10 of SPR and Bolt Gun ... Top 10 SPR = 0.6352 moa (4 entries shot with factory ammo) Top 10 Bolt gun magnified optics = 0.4884 moa (only 1 entry shot with factory ammo) There is 0.1468 moa separating the two divisions. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Originally Posted By Old_Painless:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Didn't get in much shooting time today. They were doing controlled burns on post so the Fire Dpt. showed up at random and they shut the range down without notice.
Was a bit rushed, but shot an average of .709 moa from the 18" Tobr today. Not going to bother submitting it as it's not a big enough difference from last weeks. http://www.mywrx.net/tobrt2.jpg A suggestion: Use a smaller point of aim. Use the bottom (or top) of those diamonds as your point of aim. Aim small, hit small.
It was certainly not my best day, that's for sure. I'll clean it up next time.Zero sits real still.
ETA - I averaged Top 10 of SPR and Bolt Gun ... Top 10 SPR = 0.6352 moa (4 entries shot with factory ammo) Top 10 Bolt gun magnified optics = 0.4884 moa (only 1 entry shot with factory ammo) There is 0.1468 moa separating the two divisions. You forgot to mention the #1 spot overall is in the SPR division.
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Posted: 6/1/2015 8:16:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lennyo3034:
You forgot to mention the #1 spot overall is in the SPR division. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lennyo3034:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Originally Posted By Old_Painless:
Originally Posted By Mike_P:
Didn't get in much shooting time today. They were doing controlled burns on post so the Fire Dpt. showed up at random and they shut the range down without notice.
Was a bit rushed, but shot an average of .709 moa from the 18" Tobr today. Not going to bother submitting it as it's not a big enough difference from last weeks. http://www.mywrx.net/tobrt2.jpg A suggestion: Use a smaller point of aim. Use the bottom (or top) of those diamonds as your point of aim. Aim small, hit small.
It was certainly not my best day, that's for sure. I'll clean it up next time.Zero sits real still.
ETA - I averaged Top 10 of SPR and Bolt Gun ... Top 10 SPR = 0.6352 moa (4 entries shot with factory ammo) Top 10 Bolt gun magnified optics = 0.4884 moa (only 1 entry shot with factory ammo) There is 0.1468 moa separating the two divisions. You forgot to mention the #1 spot overall is in the SPR division. If he did that all of the haters would come out of the woodwork. |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 8:42:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: LaRue_Tactical]
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Wonder what the result of having 9 out of 10 in SPR division shooting hand loads too would be ...
Is it all in the hand loads, or is a little of it that handloaders are a wee bit more careful on the trigger ... Or is it that the slight difference between bolt guns and gas guns is having the round savagely stripped from the magazine and bum rushed into the chamber ... ETA - Don't nobody get upset here, I'm just typing out loud, like I was doing when I mumbled about the Dial Calipers vs OnTarget 
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Posted: 6/1/2015 9:24:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Lennyo3034]
[#31]
I'm also looking through the top ten and see that 7 of the top ten are running billet receivers. The other 3 might be, but I can't find the posts to see a picture of the rifle. Similar to what Mark stated, does that mean billet receivers tend to be more accurate, or that people are more likely to use billet receivers for precision builds?
Eta. Stealth uppers are billet right? |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 9:32:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lennyo3034:
I'm also looking through the top ten and see that 7 of the top ten are running billet receivers. The other 3 might be, but I can't find the posts to see a picture of the rifle. Similar to what Mark stated, does that mean billet receivers tend to be more accurate, or that people are more likely to use billet receivers for precision builds? Eta. Stealth uppers are billet right? Yep, billet. But here we go again, does it mean that discerning guys that buy billet are also a wee bit more careful on the trigger? |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 9:48:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Wonder what the result of having 9 out of 10 in SPR division shooting hand loads too would be ... Is it all in the hand loads, or is a little of it that handloaders are a wee bit more careful on the trigger ... Or is it that the slight difference between bolt guns and gas guns is having the round savagely stripped from the magazine and bum rushed into the chamber ... ETA - Don't nobody get upset here, I'm just typing out loud, like I was doing when I mumbled about the Dial Calipers vs OnTarget My hand load in the stealth up was almost as good as the fgmm. They were very similar. I will bring that rifle to the range too and if I have time make up some new loads with very minor powder adjustments. I also wanna try a couple different powders... Though I've been loving the 8208. It couples perfectly with both the 77gr smk and Nosler CC. |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 12:09:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Old_Painless]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Wonder what the result of having 9 out of 10 in SPR division shooting hand loads too would be ... Is it all in the hand loads, or is a little of it that handloaders are a wee bit more careful on the trigger ... My best guess........Handloads are very accurate and handloaders get more practice because they can shoot more. |
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Posted: 6/6/2015 7:23:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LaRue_Tactical]
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Guys, we've gotten our sea legs under us and are really moving along enough now that I can get aggressive in promoting our MBT triggers.
I am kicking off the big push by giving every one on the list a complimentary MBT trigger ... you guys are doers, not talkers and I want you to get first-hand experience with the MBT Trigger. There will be a Father's Day sale featuring the MBT, but you worked for yours and it's costing you nothing. Happy Father's Day. ML ETA - I will get with my whiz-bang IT folks Monday and come back here and post the skinny on how we can get yours to you. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akethan:
SPR Division (AR/AK/FAL/M1A etc WITH magnified optics) at 100 yards 1.Mike_P: Larue Stealth upper .223 Rem 18"/13.2" - Predatobr Black gold trigger + Atlas Bipod + A2 stock - 12x SWFA SS in LT104, 77gr FGMM, Groups 0.597 / 0.345 / 0.249 / 0.248 / 0.265 = avg .340 MOA 2.Lennyo3034: Home build 223, Krieger 7.7 twist, March F 3-24X42, 77SMK over 8208. Groups: .568"/.526"/.661"/.503"/.581"= .568" average= .542 MOA 3. Rowlock: AR15, Home built Rock River 24", 5.56 NATO. Leupold Mark AR MOD 1 4-12x40mm. Federal Gold Medal .223 Remington 69 grain BTHP. Groups: 0.6175" / 0.9050" / 0.3185" / 0.6170" / 0.8873" = avg. 0.6691" = 0.639 MOA 4. SpeyRod, SPR, LaRue Tobr 5.56, 77OTM Berger over 22.5gr Varget and Rem 7 1/2, (.649, 1.017, 1.039, .778, 1.072)=.911-.224=.687/1.047=.656moa 5. SpeyRod, LaRue Stealth 18"/13.2 + LaRue Lower + Burris sig select 3-12, 77gr Berger over Varget, ..380/.877/.725/.940/.627= ..710 MOA 6.InfiniteGrim: Home Build 18" LW50 5.56 / SWFA 5-20HD / Nosler 77gr Handloads: .701/.782/.580/.768/.744 = .715 MOA 7.FALARAK: Self built Krieger .223 20" LaRue Rail, LaRue MBT trigger, LaRue Harris bipod, PRS - Leupold VariX-III 6.5x20 in LaRue LT-104 - 77gr SMK handload 24.5gr Varget CCIBR - Groups 1.017 / 0.823 / 0.792 / 0.573 / 0.576 = avg .756" = .723 MOA 8.akethan OBR 16" 7.62 / IOR 4-14 MP8/ 168gr GMM .818/.773/.610/.1.06/.397 = .733 MOA 9. lefty-weaver-g19. Built by me. Black hole weaponry custom barrel, vltor upper, timney trigger, SWFA fixed 10X mrad scope. Hand loaded 69 grain smk H4895 .811, .640, .361, 1.044, .834, average .738 10. Mike_P: Larue 18" 7.62 PredaTobr with SilencerCo Saker 7.62 - Vortex Razor HD 5-20x in an LT135, FG.MM 168gr, Fed AE M1A, BH 168gr Match, Groups 0.966 / 0.843 / 0.879 / 0.637 / 0.458 = avg .756 MOA 11.Larue_Tactical tOBR 16" 556/ 77gr GMM .617 .623 .657 .969 .979= .769 12. MDMOORE99: Olympic Arms K8 5.56 - Primary Arms 4-14X44 Mil FFP Scope - Handloads. Groups .562/.876/.736/1.171/.724=avg .8138" = .777 MOA 13.Lennyo3034: Home build 223, Douglas SPR barrel with CLE chamber, Bushnell Elite SMRS 1-8.5X24, 69SMK over 8208. Groups: .989"/.612"/.673"/866"/.924"= avg. .813"= .777 MOA 14.Skg_Mre_Lght: : DPMS Classic 20, Modified- Vortex PST 4-16x EBR-1 -Geiselle trigger- Handloads. Groups: .556"/ 1.261"/ .938"/ .582"/ .683"/ avg .927"= .8038 MOA: 15.Eric802:18" BHW barrel, PA 4-16x44 scope, 75gr BTHP handloads (LC brass, RE-15): .912, .731, 1.158, .720, .779; avg. .860", .821 MOA. 16.BuickDan/AR-15 18" SPR homebrew .223/RRA 2-stage trigger/Mueller APT 4.5-14X40/Hornady 55 gr V-max handloads Groups: .744" .864" .716" .885" 1.101" Avg= .862" .8231MOA 17. Face454 20" Krieger Barrel .223, Tasco 16X scope, 75gr Black Hills: 1.111, 1.146, .579, .551, .944; avg. .8662", .8273 MOA 18..JohnTlag: Knights LPR - Leupold CQBSS - Handloads: 25 grains BLC-2 with 77 grain SMK's in LC brass.. .736,.726,.581,1.030,1.070 = .829 MOA 19. EVR: ArmaLite M15NM 5.56 - Factory Condition {polished trigger} - Redfield 4-12 scope PA Mount - Groups: 1.016/.852/1.079/.853/.733 = avg. .9066" = .866 MOA 20. Face454 26" 6.5 Grendel Bartlien Barreled Precision Firearms Upper Nightforce 8-32x56, 123gr Hornady AMAX: 1.018, .692, 1.248, 1.065, .602 AVG: .925", .883 MOA 21.AR-180: Stag Lower with a Varmint parts kit, Bushnell Scope, 0.618" / 0.994" / 0.560" / 1.143" / 1.116" = 4.431" / 5 = 0.8862" 22. trobertson5-0:Knight's Armament SR15 5.56- Kreiger barrel- Leupold MK 1.5-5 SPR- MK262 76 gr. Groups: .889"/ 1.449"/ 1.04"/ .419"/ .924"/ avg .944 = .901 MOA 23.Ronnl001/Les Baer thunder ranch ar15/.596+.625+.965+1.023+1.168+1.392"/6=.9615" = .918 MOA AVERAGE. 24. themagikbullet. .223 SPR upper built by Ayan at boltcarrier.com. Geissele SD-E trigger. SWFA 5-20x50. Black Hills 77gr. 1.397, .707, .777, .812, .941. Average .926" 25.. L_JE: Noveske w/.223 18" WOA barrel - Vortex PST 2.5-10x - Black Hills 77SMK .223. Groups: 0.651"/0.651"/1.026"/1.026"/1.526" = avg 0.976" = 0.932 MOA 26. VBC.223 AR-15. 22" SS bull bbl. Geissele G2S trigger. Zeiss Victory FL 6-24x56mm. 53 gr. SMK (#1400) over 27.2 gr. of Varget 1.146, 0.596, 0.926, 1.256, 0.936. Avg = 0.972" or 0.928 MOA 27, Steelhead43 .741 1.235 1.096 1.076 .530 .678 =.9356 BMC receiver, Rainier UM SPR barrel, 69SMK's with W748 and 77SMK's with CFE223 28. MrZeat: RRA Varmint EOP 16" .223 Rem - Aero Lower Geissele SSA-E - Leupold Mark AR MOD 1 6-18x40mm - Handloads. Groups: .741/.935/1.357/1.042/.984 = avg 1.048 = .966 MOA 29. UtahShotgunner: DPMS Heavy barreled custom 5.56 - Tasco 8-32X- Handloads. Groups: .781"/ 1.186"/ .955"/ 1.129"/ 1.099"/ avg. 1.03" = .984 MOA 30. Old_Painless: DPMS AR-15 5.56, Leupold 6.5 X 20, Handloads. .97"/ 1.24"/1.31"/1.09"/.56"= Avg. 1.034" = .988 MOA 31 mathecb. Custom built SPR (LMT lower, Douglas 18" barrel and bolt, Noveske NSR, DD Upper), Nightforce 2.5-10x32 in JP mount. Ammo: Handloads (load development) 1.476 + .908 + 1.047 + 1.158 + 1.037 = 1.075" 32 Logicgear: AR-15 HomeBuilt .223 Rem 16", Vortex Viper HS 4-16x44, 69gr SMK handloads 1.426"/1.008"/1.199"/.894"/1.313" AVG=1.168" MOA=1.116" 33.jself24: AA 24" 6.5 Grendel, Vortex Viper PST 6 X 24, Handloads. 1.043/ 1.186/.737"/1.360"/1.525"/avg. 1.170" = 1.117 MOA 34.M4A1Carbine: Home build with 18" Faxon barrel / Nikon M-223 3-12x42SF / PPU 69gr .223. Groups: 0.594"/1.0"/.937"/1.625"/1.812" = avg 1.1936" = 1.14 MOA 35. mnandy, home built ar15 w/ White Oak barrel, .223, Weaver tactical 3-10 scope, 68 grain hand loads, 1.777/.977/1.577/1.527/.977= 1.367 average = 1.306 moa 36.Holden_McRoyne: Homebuilt .223 AR - Noveske 18.5" SPR barrel, Geissele S3G, 762-SDN-6 - SWFA 1-6 in Bobro mount - Fed GMM 77gr. Groups: 1.470" / 1.293" / 1.797" / 1.379" / 0.918" = avg 1.371" = 1.310 MOA 37. MSC182: BCM/PSA 5.56 16" middy build-HTG ARIS suppressor-Leupold VX-R Patrol scope-Hornady Steel Match 55 gr. HP. Groups: 1.143/2.349/1.330/1.550/.659 = Avg 1.406 = 1.34 MOA 38.TX_Critter: Palmetto State 16" Midlength - YHM phantom stainless can - 3-9x40 Nikon Scope, 55gr Hornady SP Handloads, Groups 0.914" / 1.831" / 1.525" / 1.584" / 1.051" = avg 1.381" = 1.381 MOA 39 Muad: Home built ADCO 18" SPR barrel - Bushnell 6-24x50mm - 77gr SMK BH 5.56mm loads - 100 yards. Groups: 1.689"/1.046"/0.947"/2.113"/1.262"/avg. 1.4114" = 1.35 MOA 40.GardensandGuns/ BCM SS 18" 1/8 .223 w/ Vortex PST 1-4,G2S trigger, Harris bipod. 55gr Hornady FMJBT on 24gr H335 Groups:2.219/2.533/1.324/1.165/1.382 = 1.7246 - .224= 1.5006/1.047= 1.433 MOA 41.Hossolo: BCM 16" LW BFH in 5.56mm - KMR13, Geissele SSA-E - TA33-8 - Australian Outback .223 69gr SMK BTHP. Groups: 1.07"/1.12"/1.81"/1.92"/2.19" = avg. 1.622" = 1.54MOA 42. jwatts, Spike's Midlength 16" AR .5.56- Geiselle 2 stage trigger- Burris Fullfield 2 3-9x40- Handloaded 77gr Nosler Custom Comp HPBT. Groups: 2.823/1.402/2.049/1.14/1.09 = Average of 1.7008"= 1.624MOA 43. excatm76, AR-15 Armalite Lower/Stag 3G Upper 5.56mm, Leupold VX-R Patrol 1.25-4x Bobro mount, Geco 55 grain .223, Groups: 1.161"/1.561"/1.725"/2.645"/1.479" Average= 1.637 MOA 44.Holden_McRoyne: Homebuilt .223 AR - Noveske 18.5" SPR barrel, Geissele S3G, 762-SDN-6 - SWFA 1-6x24 in Bobro mount - Norma Match 77gr SMK. Groups: 1.56"/1.65"/1.09"/2.37"/1.37" = avg 1.61" = 1.54 MOA 45. EVR: ArmaLite AR10A4 Factory Condition/Non-freefloat barrel .308 - Redfield 3-9 - Handload. 1.428/1.851/2.038/1.568/2.032 = avg. 1.7834" = 1.7033 MOA 46. MRW: BCM 5.56 20" Gov't upper, SWFA Super Sniper 10x scope, Hornady 55 gr Steel Match. Groups:1.720/1.365/1.938/2.315/2.036 Ave: 1.8748" MOA: 1.72 47. maxxmojo: Norinco NDM-86 7.62 NATO - 8x42D POSP scope - Georgia Arms 168gr. HPBT Canned Heat - Groups: 2.505"/2.2"/1.44"/2.307"/1.7395"/ avg 2.0383" = 1.9468 MOA 48. LuckyDucky: Palmetto State Armory/Anderson Mfg. - Hornady 6.8mm SPC 110 gr V-MAX - Redfield Revolution 4-12x - Groups: 2.982"/2.253"/1.697"/2.447"/2.548" = avg. 2.385" = 2.278 moa |
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Posted: 6/6/2015 9:02:20 PM EDT
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wow, that's pretty dang generous, Mark
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Posted: 6/6/2015 9:07:49 PM EDT
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Wow!
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Posted: 6/6/2015 9:14:31 PM EDT
[#38]
WoW! Thank you Mark!
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Posted: 6/6/2015 9:30:13 PM EDT
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Wow, Thank you.
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Posted: 6/6/2015 9:34:24 PM EDT
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You guys are a known entity ... known to get off your butts and go shoot five good groups in a row.
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Posted: 6/6/2015 9:43:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
You guys are a known entity ... known to get off your butts and go shoot five good groups in a row. Those hats are pretty sweet as well. 
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Posted: 6/6/2015 9:43:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical: You guys are a known entity ... known to get off your butts and go shoot five good groups in a row. what about us saps whos terrible triggers keep us from shooting moa? lol, congrats everyone. |
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Posted: 6/6/2015 10:00:40 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Guys, we've gotten our sea legs under us and are really moving along enough now that I can get aggressive in promoting our MBT triggers. I am kicking off the big push by giving every one on the list a complimentary MBT trigger ... you guys are doers, not talkers and I want you to get first-hand experience with the MBT Trigger. There will be a Father's Day sale featuring the MBT, but you worked for yours and it's costing you nothing. Happy Father's Day. ML ETA - I will get with my whiz-bang IT folks Monday and come back here and post the skinny on how we can get yours to you. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Guys, we've gotten our sea legs under us and are really moving along enough now that I can get aggressive in promoting our MBT triggers. I am kicking off the big push by giving every one on the list a complimentary MBT trigger ... you guys are doers, not talkers and I want you to get first-hand experience with the MBT Trigger. There will be a Father's Day sale featuring the MBT, but you worked for yours and it's costing you nothing. Happy Father's Day. ML ETA - I will get with my whiz-bang IT folks Monday and come back here and post the skinny on how we can get yours to you. Originally Posted By akethan:
SPR Division (AR/AK/FAL/M1A etc WITH magnified optics) at 100 yards 1.Mike_P: Larue Stealth upper .223 Rem 18"/13.2" - Predatobr Black gold trigger + Atlas Bipod + A2 stock - 12x SWFA SS in LT104, 77gr FGMM, Groups 0.597 / 0.345 / 0.249 / 0.248 / 0.265 = avg .340 MOA 2.Lennyo3034: Home build 223, Krieger 7.7 twist, March F 3-24X42, 77SMK over 8208. Groups: .568"/.526"/.661"/.503"/.581"= .568" average= .542 MOA 3. Rowlock: AR15, Home built Rock River 24", 5.56 NATO. Leupold Mark AR MOD 1 4-12x40mm. Federal Gold Medal .223 Remington 69 grain BTHP. Groups: 0.6175" / 0.9050" / 0.3185" / 0.6170" / 0.8873" = avg. 0.6691" = 0.639 MOA 4. SpeyRod, SPR, LaRue Tobr 5.56, 77OTM Berger over 22.5gr Varget and Rem 7 1/2, (.649, 1.017, 1.039, .778, 1.072)=.911-.224=.687/1.047=.656moa 5. SpeyRod, LaRue Stealth 18"/13.2 + LaRue Lower + Burris sig select 3-12, 77gr Berger over Varget, ..380/.877/.725/.940/.627= ..710 MOA 6.InfiniteGrim: Home Build 18" LW50 5.56 / SWFA 5-20HD / Nosler 77gr Handloads: .701/.782/.580/.768/.744 = .715 MOA 7.FALARAK: Self built Krieger .223 20" LaRue Rail, LaRue MBT trigger, LaRue Harris bipod, PRS - Leupold VariX-III 6.5x20 in LaRue LT-104 - 77gr SMK handload 24.5gr Varget CCIBR - Groups 1.017 / 0.823 / 0.792 / 0.573 / 0.576 = avg .756" = .723 MOA 8.akethan OBR 16" 7.62 / IOR 4-14 MP8/ 168gr GMM .818/.773/.610/.1.06/.397 = .733 MOA 9. lefty-weaver-g19. Built by me. Black hole weaponry custom barrel, vltor upper, timney trigger, SWFA fixed 10X mrad scope. Hand loaded 69 grain smk H4895 .811, .640, .361, 1.044, .834, average .738 10. Mike_P: Larue 18" 7.62 PredaTobr with SilencerCo Saker 7.62 - Vortex Razor HD 5-20x in an LT135, FG.MM 168gr, Fed AE M1A, BH 168gr Match, Groups 0.966 / 0.843 / 0.879 / 0.637 / 0.458 = avg .756 MOA 11.Larue_Tactical tOBR 16" 556/ 77gr GMM .617 .623 .657 .969 .979= .769 12. MDMOORE99: Olympic Arms K8 5.56 - Primary Arms 4-14X44 Mil FFP Scope - Handloads. Groups .562/.876/.736/1.171/.724=avg .8138" = .777 MOA 13.Lennyo3034: Home build 223, Douglas SPR barrel with CLE chamber, Bushnell Elite SMRS 1-8.5X24, 69SMK over 8208. Groups: .989"/.612"/.673"/866"/.924"= avg. .813"= .777 MOA 14.Skg_Mre_Lght: : DPMS Classic 20, Modified- Vortex PST 4-16x EBR-1 -Geiselle trigger- Handloads. Groups: .556"/ 1.261"/ .938"/ .582"/ .683"/ avg .927"= .8038 MOA: 15.Eric802:18" BHW barrel, PA 4-16x44 scope, 75gr BTHP handloads (LC brass, RE-15): .912, .731, 1.158, .720, .779; avg. .860", .821 MOA. 16.BuickDan/AR-15 18" SPR homebrew .223/RRA 2-stage trigger/Mueller APT 4.5-14X40/Hornady 55 gr V-max handloads Groups: .744" .864" .716" .885" 1.101" Avg= .862" .8231MOA 17. Face454 20" Krieger Barrel .223, Tasco 16X scope, 75gr Black Hills: 1.111, 1.146, .579, .551, .944; avg. .8662", .8273 MOA 18..JohnTlag: Knights LPR - Leupold CQBSS - Handloads: 25 grains BLC-2 with 77 grain SMK's in LC brass.. .736,.726,.581,1.030,1.070 = .829 MOA 19. EVR: ArmaLite M15NM 5.56 - Factory Condition {polished trigger} - Redfield 4-12 scope PA Mount - Groups: 1.016/.852/1.079/.853/.733 = avg. .9066" = .866 MOA 20. Face454 26" 6.5 Grendel Bartlien Barreled Precision Firearms Upper Nightforce 8-32x56, 123gr Hornady AMAX: 1.018, .692, 1.248, 1.065, .602 AVG: .925", .883 MOA 21.AR-180: Stag Lower with a Varmint parts kit, Bushnell Scope, 0.618" / 0.994" / 0.560" / 1.143" / 1.116" = 4.431" / 5 = 0.8862" 22. trobertson5-0:Knight's Armament SR15 5.56- Kreiger barrel- Leupold MK 1.5-5 SPR- MK262 76 gr. Groups: .889"/ 1.449"/ 1.04"/ .419"/ .924"/ avg .944 = .901 MOA 23.Ronnl001/Les Baer thunder ranch ar15/.596+.625+.965+1.023+1.168+1.392"/6=.9615" = .918 MOA AVERAGE. 24. themagikbullet. .223 SPR upper built by Ayan at boltcarrier.com. Geissele SD-E trigger. SWFA 5-20x50. Black Hills 77gr. 1.397, .707, .777, .812, .941. Average .926" 25.. L_JE: Noveske w/.223 18" WOA barrel - Vortex PST 2.5-10x - Black Hills 77SMK .223. Groups: 0.651"/0.651"/1.026"/1.026"/1.526" = avg 0.976" = 0.932 MOA 26. VBC.223 AR-15. 22" SS bull bbl. Geissele G2S trigger. Zeiss Victory FL 6-24x56mm. 53 gr. SMK (#1400) over 27.2 gr. of Varget 1.146, 0.596, 0.926, 1.256, 0.936. Avg = 0.972" or 0.928 MOA 27, Steelhead43 .741 1.235 1.096 1.076 .530 .678 =.9356 BMC receiver, Rainier UM SPR barrel, 69SMK's with W748 and 77SMK's with CFE223 28. MrZeat: RRA Varmint EOP 16" .223 Rem - Aero Lower Geissele SSA-E - Leupold Mark AR MOD 1 6-18x40mm - Handloads. Groups: .741/.935/1.357/1.042/.984 = avg 1.048 = .966 MOA 29. UtahShotgunner: DPMS Heavy barreled custom 5.56 - Tasco 8-32X- Handloads. Groups: .781"/ 1.186"/ .955"/ 1.129"/ 1.099"/ avg. 1.03" = .984 MOA 30. Old_Painless: DPMS AR-15 5.56, Leupold 6.5 X 20, Handloads. .97"/ 1.24"/1.31"/1.09"/.56"= Avg. 1.034" = .988 MOA 31 mathecb. Custom built SPR (LMT lower, Douglas 18" barrel and bolt, Noveske NSR, DD Upper), Nightforce 2.5-10x32 in JP mount. Ammo: Handloads (load development) 1.476 + .908 + 1.047 + 1.158 + 1.037 = 1.075" 32 Logicgear: AR-15 HomeBuilt .223 Rem 16", Vortex Viper HS 4-16x44, 69gr SMK handloads 1.426"/1.008"/1.199"/.894"/1.313" AVG=1.168" MOA=1.116" 33.jself24: AA 24" 6.5 Grendel, Vortex Viper PST 6 X 24, Handloads. 1.043/ 1.186/.737"/1.360"/1.525"/avg. 1.170" = 1.117 MOA 34.M4A1Carbine: Home build with 18" Faxon barrel / Nikon M-223 3-12x42SF / PPU 69gr .223. Groups: 0.594"/1.0"/.937"/1.625"/1.812" = avg 1.1936" = 1.14 MOA 35. mnandy, home built ar15 w/ White Oak barrel, .223, Weaver tactical 3-10 scope, 68 grain hand loads, 1.777/.977/1.577/1.527/.977= 1.367 average = 1.306 moa 36.Holden_McRoyne: Homebuilt .223 AR - Noveske 18.5" SPR barrel, Geissele S3G, 762-SDN-6 - SWFA 1-6 in Bobro mount - Fed GMM 77gr. Groups: 1.470" / 1.293" / 1.797" / 1.379" / 0.918" = avg 1.371" = 1.310 MOA 37. MSC182: BCM/PSA 5.56 16" middy build-HTG ARIS suppressor-Leupold VX-R Patrol scope-Hornady Steel Match 55 gr. HP. Groups: 1.143/2.349/1.330/1.550/.659 = Avg 1.406 = 1.34 MOA 38.TX_Critter: Palmetto State 16" Midlength - YHM phantom stainless can - 3-9x40 Nikon Scope, 55gr Hornady SP Handloads, Groups 0.914" / 1.831" / 1.525" / 1.584" / 1.051" = avg 1.381" = 1.381 MOA 39 Muad: Home built ADCO 18" SPR barrel - Bushnell 6-24x50mm - 77gr SMK BH 5.56mm loads - 100 yards. Groups: 1.689"/1.046"/0.947"/2.113"/1.262"/avg. 1.4114" = 1.35 MOA 40.GardensandGuns/ BCM SS 18" 1/8 .223 w/ Vortex PST 1-4,G2S trigger, Harris bipod. 55gr Hornady FMJBT on 24gr H335 Groups:2.219/2.533/1.324/1.165/1.382 = 1.7246 - .224= 1.5006/1.047= 1.433 MOA 41.Hossolo: BCM 16" LW BFH in 5.56mm - KMR13, Geissele SSA-E - TA33-8 - Australian Outback .223 69gr SMK BTHP. Groups: 1.07"/1.12"/1.81"/1.92"/2.19" = avg. 1.622" = 1.54MOA 42. jwatts, Spike's Midlength 16" AR .5.56- Geiselle 2 stage trigger- Burris Fullfield 2 3-9x40- Handloaded 77gr Nosler Custom Comp HPBT. Groups: 2.823/1.402/2.049/1.14/1.09 = Average of 1.7008"= 1.624MOA 43. excatm76, AR-15 Armalite Lower/Stag 3G Upper 5.56mm, Leupold VX-R Patrol 1.25-4x Bobro mount, Geco 55 grain .223, Groups: 1.161"/1.561"/1.725"/2.645"/1.479" Average= 1.637 MOA 44.Holden_McRoyne: Homebuilt .223 AR - Noveske 18.5" SPR barrel, Geissele S3G, 762-SDN-6 - SWFA 1-6x24 in Bobro mount - Norma Match 77gr SMK. Groups: 1.56"/1.65"/1.09"/2.37"/1.37" = avg 1.61" = 1.54 MOA 45. EVR: ArmaLite AR10A4 Factory Condition/Non-freefloat barrel .308 - Redfield 3-9 - Handload. 1.428/1.851/2.038/1.568/2.032 = avg. 1.7834" = 1.7033 MOA 46. MRW: BCM 5.56 20" Gov't upper, SWFA Super Sniper 10x scope, Hornady 55 gr Steel Match. Groups:1.720/1.365/1.938/2.315/2.036 Ave: 1.8748" MOA: 1.72 47. maxxmojo: Norinco NDM-86 7.62 NATO - 8x42D POSP scope - Georgia Arms 168gr. HPBT Canned Heat - Groups: 2.505"/2.2"/1.44"/2.307"/1.7395"/ avg 2.0383" = 1.9468 MOA 48. LuckyDucky: Palmetto State Armory/Anderson Mfg. - Hornady 6.8mm SPC 110 gr V-MAX - Redfield Revolution 4-12x - Groups: 2.982"/2.253"/1.697"/2.447"/2.548" = avg. 2.385" = 2.278 moa Wow...very generous! How about us bolt gun guys?
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Posted: 6/6/2015 10:04:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
You guys are a known entity ... known to get off your butts and go shoot five good groups in a row. That is an awesome gesture. You guys never disappoint. |
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Posted: 6/6/2015 10:14:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWow...very generous! How about us bolt gun guys? These aren't bolt gun triggers ... but you have a point, Service Rifle guys, y'all are now in.
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Posted: 6/6/2015 11:01:11 PM EDT
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I was on pg 10 but not on the list yet
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Posted: 6/6/2015 11:10:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: akethan]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pbjunkiee:
I was on pg 10 but not on the list yet didn't follow the rules You didn't shoot 5 groups. Rules is rules. |
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Posted: 6/6/2015 11:21:32 PM EDT
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Very nice Mark
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Posted: 6/7/2015 12:31:57 AM EDT
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NICE!
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Posted: 6/7/2015 12:51:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Guys, we've gotten our sea legs under us and are really moving along enough now that I can get aggressive in promoting our MBT triggers. I am kicking off the big push by giving every one on the list a complimentary MBT trigger ... you guys are doers, not talkers and I want you to get first-hand experience with the MBT Trigger. There will be a Father's Day sale featuring the MBT, but you worked for yours and it's costing you nothing. Happy Father's Day. ML ETA - I will get with my whiz-bang IT folks Monday and come back here and post the skinny on how we can get yours to you. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Guys, we've gotten our sea legs under us and are really moving along enough now that I can get aggressive in promoting our MBT triggers. I am kicking off the big push by giving every one on the list a complimentary MBT trigger ... you guys are doers, not talkers and I want you to get first-hand experience with the MBT Trigger. There will be a Father's Day sale featuring the MBT, but you worked for yours and it's costing you nothing. Happy Father's Day. ML ETA - I will get with my whiz-bang IT folks Monday and come back here and post the skinny on how we can get yours to you. Originally Posted By akethan:
SPR Division (AR/AK/FAL/M1A etc WITH magnified optics) at 100 yards 1.Mike_P: Larue Stealth upper .223 Rem 18"/13.2" - Predatobr Black gold trigger + Atlas Bipod + A2 stock - 12x SWFA SS in LT104, 77gr FGMM, Groups 0.597 / 0.345 / 0.249 / 0.248 / 0.265 = avg .340 MOA 2.Lennyo3034: Home build 223, Krieger 7.7 twist, March F 3-24X42, 77SMK over 8208. Groups: .568"/.526"/.661"/.503"/.581"= .568" average= .542 MOA 3. Rowlock: AR15, Home built Rock River 24", 5.56 NATO. Leupold Mark AR MOD 1 4-12x40mm. Federal Gold Medal .223 Remington 69 grain BTHP. Groups: 0.6175" / 0.9050" / 0.3185" / 0.6170" / 0.8873" = avg. 0.6691" = 0.639 MOA 4. SpeyRod, SPR, LaRue Tobr 5.56, 77OTM Berger over 22.5gr Varget and Rem 7 1/2, (.649, 1.017, 1.039, .778, 1.072)=.911-.224=.687/1.047=.656moa 5. SpeyRod, LaRue Stealth 18"/13.2 + LaRue Lower + Burris sig select 3-12, 77gr Berger over Varget, ..380/.877/.725/.940/.627= ..710 MOA 6.InfiniteGrim: Home Build 18" LW50 5.56 / SWFA 5-20HD / Nosler 77gr Handloads: .701/.782/.580/.768/.744 = .715 MOA 7.FALARAK: Self built Krieger .223 20" LaRue Rail, LaRue MBT trigger, LaRue Harris bipod, PRS - Leupold VariX-III 6.5x20 in LaRue LT-104 - 77gr SMK handload 24.5gr Varget CCIBR - Groups 1.017 / 0.823 / 0.792 / 0.573 / 0.576 = avg .756" = .723 MOA 8.akethan OBR 16" 7.62 / IOR 4-14 MP8/ 168gr GMM .818/.773/.610/.1.06/.397 = .733 MOA 9. lefty-weaver-g19. Built by me. Black hole weaponry custom barrel, vltor upper, timney trigger, SWFA fixed 10X mrad scope. Hand loaded 69 grain smk H4895 .811, .640, .361, 1.044, .834, average .738 10. Mike_P: Larue 18" 7.62 PredaTobr with SilencerCo Saker 7.62 - Vortex Razor HD 5-20x in an LT135, FG.MM 168gr, Fed AE M1A, BH 168gr Match, Groups 0.966 / 0.843 / 0.879 / 0.637 / 0.458 = avg .756 MOA 11.Larue_Tactical tOBR 16" 556/ 77gr GMM .617 .623 .657 .969 .979= .769 12. MDMOORE99: Olympic Arms K8 5.56 - Primary Arms 4-14X44 Mil FFP Scope - Handloads. Groups .562/.876/.736/1.171/.724=avg .8138" = .777 MOA 13.Lennyo3034: Home build 223, Douglas SPR barrel with CLE chamber, Bushnell Elite SMRS 1-8.5X24, 69SMK over 8208. Groups: .989"/.612"/.673"/866"/.924"= avg. .813"= .777 MOA 14.Skg_Mre_Lght: : DPMS Classic 20, Modified- Vortex PST 4-16x EBR-1 -Geiselle trigger- Handloads. Groups: .556"/ 1.261"/ .938"/ .582"/ .683"/ avg .927"= .8038 MOA: 15.Eric802:18" BHW barrel, PA 4-16x44 scope, 75gr BTHP handloads (LC brass, RE-15): .912, .731, 1.158, .720, .779; avg. .860", .821 MOA. 16.BuickDan/AR-15 18" SPR homebrew .223/RRA 2-stage trigger/Mueller APT 4.5-14X40/Hornady 55 gr V-max handloads Groups: .744" .864" .716" .885" 1.101" Avg= .862" .8231MOA 17. Face454 20" Krieger Barrel .223, Tasco 16X scope, 75gr Black Hills: 1.111, 1.146, .579, .551, .944; avg. .8662", .8273 MOA 18..JohnTlag: Knights LPR - Leupold CQBSS - Handloads: 25 grains BLC-2 with 77 grain SMK's in LC brass.. .736,.726,.581,1.030,1.070 = .829 MOA 19. EVR: ArmaLite M15NM 5.56 - Factory Condition {polished trigger} - Redfield 4-12 scope PA Mount - Groups: 1.016/.852/1.079/.853/.733 = avg. .9066" = .866 MOA 20. Face454 26" 6.5 Grendel Bartlien Barreled Precision Firearms Upper Nightforce 8-32x56, 123gr Hornady AMAX: 1.018, .692, 1.248, 1.065, .602 AVG: .925", .883 MOA 21.AR-180: Stag Lower with a Varmint parts kit, Bushnell Scope, 0.618" / 0.994" / 0.560" / 1.143" / 1.116" = 4.431" / 5 = 0.8862" 22. trobertson5-0:Knight's Armament SR15 5.56- Kreiger barrel- Leupold MK 1.5-5 SPR- MK262 76 gr. Groups: .889"/ 1.449"/ 1.04"/ .419"/ .924"/ avg .944 = .901 MOA 23.Ronnl001/Les Baer thunder ranch ar15/.596+.625+.965+1.023+1.168+1.392"/6=.9615" = .918 MOA AVERAGE. 24. themagikbullet. .223 SPR upper built by Ayan at boltcarrier.com. Geissele SD-E trigger. SWFA 5-20x50. Black Hills 77gr. 1.397, .707, .777, .812, .941. Average .926" 25.. L_JE: Noveske w/.223 18" WOA barrel - Vortex PST 2.5-10x - Black Hills 77SMK .223. Groups: 0.651"/0.651"/1.026"/1.026"/1.526" = avg 0.976" = 0.932 MOA 26. VBC.223 AR-15. 22" SS bull bbl. Geissele G2S trigger. Zeiss Victory FL 6-24x56mm. 53 gr. SMK (#1400) over 27.2 gr. of Varget 1.146, 0.596, 0.926, 1.256, 0.936. Avg = 0.972" or 0.928 MOA 27, Steelhead43 .741 1.235 1.096 1.076 .530 .678 =.9356 BMC receiver, Rainier UM SPR barrel, 69SMK's with W748 and 77SMK's with CFE223 28. MrZeat: RRA Varmint EOP 16" .223 Rem - Aero Lower Geissele SSA-E - Leupold Mark AR MOD 1 6-18x40mm - Handloads. Groups: .741/.935/1.357/1.042/.984 = avg 1.048 = .966 MOA 29. UtahShotgunner: DPMS Heavy barreled custom 5.56 - Tasco 8-32X- Handloads. Groups: .781"/ 1.186"/ .955"/ 1.129"/ 1.099"/ avg. 1.03" = .984 MOA 30. Old_Painless: DPMS AR-15 5.56, Leupold 6.5 X 20, Handloads. .97"/ 1.24"/1.31"/1.09"/.56"= Avg. 1.034" = .988 MOA 31 mathecb. Custom built SPR (LMT lower, Douglas 18" barrel and bolt, Noveske NSR, DD Upper), Nightforce 2.5-10x32 in JP mount. Ammo: Handloads (load development) 1.476 + .908 + 1.047 + 1.158 + 1.037 = 1.075" 32 Logicgear: AR-15 HomeBuilt .223 Rem 16", Vortex Viper HS 4-16x44, 69gr SMK handloads 1.426"/1.008"/1.199"/.894"/1.313" AVG=1.168" MOA=1.116" 33.jself24: AA 24" 6.5 Grendel, Vortex Viper PST 6 X 24, Handloads. 1.043/ 1.186/.737"/1.360"/1.525"/avg. 1.170" = 1.117 MOA 34.M4A1Carbine: Home build with 18" Faxon barrel / Nikon M-223 3-12x42SF / PPU 69gr .223. Groups: 0.594"/1.0"/.937"/1.625"/1.812" = avg 1.1936" = 1.14 MOA 35. mnandy, home built ar15 w/ White Oak barrel, .223, Weaver tactical 3-10 scope, 68 grain hand loads, 1.777/.977/1.577/1.527/.977= 1.367 average = 1.306 moa 36.Holden_McRoyne: Homebuilt .223 AR - Noveske 18.5" SPR barrel, Geissele S3G, 762-SDN-6 - SWFA 1-6 in Bobro mount - Fed GMM 77gr. Groups: 1.470" / 1.293" / 1.797" / 1.379" / 0.918" = avg 1.371" = 1.310 MOA 37. MSC182: BCM/PSA 5.56 16" middy build-HTG ARIS suppressor-Leupold VX-R Patrol scope-Hornady Steel Match 55 gr. HP. Groups: 1.143/2.349/1.330/1.550/.659 = Avg 1.406 = 1.34 MOA 38.TX_Critter: Palmetto State 16" Midlength - YHM phantom stainless can - 3-9x40 Nikon Scope, 55gr Hornady SP Handloads, Groups 0.914" / 1.831" / 1.525" / 1.584" / 1.051" = avg 1.381" = 1.381 MOA 39 Muad: Home built ADCO 18" SPR barrel - Bushnell 6-24x50mm - 77gr SMK BH 5.56mm loads - 100 yards. Groups: 1.689"/1.046"/0.947"/2.113"/1.262"/avg. 1.4114" = 1.35 MOA 40.GardensandGuns/ BCM SS 18" 1/8 .223 w/ Vortex PST 1-4,G2S trigger, Harris bipod. 55gr Hornady FMJBT on 24gr H335 Groups:2.219/2.533/1.324/1.165/1.382 = 1.7246 - .224= 1.5006/1.047= 1.433 MOA 41.Hossolo: BCM 16" LW BFH in 5.56mm - KMR13, Geissele SSA-E - TA33-8 - Australian Outback .223 69gr SMK BTHP. Groups: 1.07"/1.12"/1.81"/1.92"/2.19" = avg. 1.622" = 1.54MOA 42. jwatts, Spike's Midlength 16" AR .5.56- Geiselle 2 stage trigger- Burris Fullfield 2 3-9x40- Handloaded 77gr Nosler Custom Comp HPBT. Groups: 2.823/1.402/2.049/1.14/1.09 = Average of 1.7008"= 1.624MOA 43. excatm76, AR-15 Armalite Lower/Stag 3G Upper 5.56mm, Leupold VX-R Patrol 1.25-4x Bobro mount, Geco 55 grain .223, Groups: 1.161"/1.561"/1.725"/2.645"/1.479" Average= 1.637 MOA 44.Holden_McRoyne: Homebuilt .223 AR - Noveske 18.5" SPR barrel, Geissele S3G, 762-SDN-6 - SWFA 1-6x24 in Bobro mount - Norma Match 77gr SMK. Groups: 1.56"/1.65"/1.09"/2.37"/1.37" = avg 1.61" = 1.54 MOA 45. EVR: ArmaLite AR10A4 Factory Condition/Non-freefloat barrel .308 - Redfield 3-9 - Handload. 1.428/1.851/2.038/1.568/2.032 = avg. 1.7834" = 1.7033 MOA 46. MRW: BCM 5.56 20" Gov't upper, SWFA Super Sniper 10x scope, Hornady 55 gr Steel Match. Groups:1.720/1.365/1.938/2.315/2.036 Ave: 1.8748" MOA: 1.72 47. maxxmojo: Norinco NDM-86 7.62 NATO - 8x42D POSP scope - Georgia Arms 168gr. HPBT Canned Heat - Groups: 2.505"/2.2"/1.44"/2.307"/1.7395"/ avg 2.0383" = 1.9468 MOA 48. LuckyDucky: Palmetto State Armory/Anderson Mfg. - Hornady 6.8mm SPC 110 gr V-MAX - Redfield Revolution 4-12x - Groups: 2.982"/2.253"/1.697"/2.447"/2.548" = avg. 2.385" = 2.278 moa Wow. That IS impressive!! |
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