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Posted: 12/29/2011 11:43:13 AM EST
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What grain and brand bullet are you using for hog hunting? I shoot a 6.8 but a buddy only has a .223 caliber AR. I've just seen a lot of animals get away using 55 gr. soft points. Hogs, deer, etc. I'm in TX and deer are smaller than other areas. IMHO .223 is not a good hunting cartridge but it is what it is and he has what he has. I was thinking maybe he could go to a heavier bullet and that would help some. We do reload so that is not a problem. Please don't say head shots as I'm not a big fan of those for many people and have seen too many jaws blown off and a lot of animals suffer.

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Link Posted: 12/29/2011 9:02:11 AM EST
I'm in VA where there are quite a few differences in landscape and possible size of hogs, but I use a 12 gauge with slugs. A friend uses a .223 with 62gr Barnes, and he doesn't have any problems with them going down. I use a shotgun because it's pretty thick around here, and the hogs are never that far away.
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Link Posted: 12/29/2011 9:15:08 AM EST
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Use that bullet for anything bigger than a coyote
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Link Posted: 12/29/2011 9:18:34 AM EST
Originally Posted By Blasternank:
What grain and brand bullet are you using for hog hunting? I shoot a 6.8 but a buddy only has a .223 caliber AR. I've just seen a lot of animals get away using 55 gr. soft points. Hogs, deer, etc. I'm in TX and deer are smaller than other areas. IMHO .223 is not a good hunting cartridge but it is what it is and he has what he has. I was thinking maybe he could go to a heavier bullet and that would help some. We do reload so that is not a problem. Please don't say head shots as I'm not a big fan of those for many people and have seen too many jaws blown off and a lot of animals suffer.

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62 Barnes TSX....or the 55gr version.
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Link Posted: 12/29/2011 10:08:25 AM EST
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Link Posted: 12/29/2011 12:02:25 PM EST
Are you looking for just a bullet (reloading component) or factory loaded ammunition? For bullet, I've had a lot of luck with the 65gr Sierra pro hunter.

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Link Posted: 12/29/2011 12:43:47 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/29/2011 12:57:16 PM EST
thanks for the responses. He has a 1:9 twist so I think I can go as high as a 69 gr. bullet according to what I've just read. I'm looking to reload so any components you use would be appreciated. Also, I'd look at buying the ammo as well but just prefer to reload it. Let me know what has worked for you.
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Link Posted: 12/29/2011 1:04:26 PM EST
There's another guy in here from TX that uses just 55gr FMJ and says he plants them with those bullets. They'll penetrate the vitals due to design, but for more effective "drop them in their tracks" performance, aim for the neck/shoulder junction.
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Link Posted: 12/29/2011 2:12:26 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/29/2011 4:47:34 PM EST
I have killed quite a few using 62 gr hp silver bear ammo. Its all about shot placement.
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Link Posted: 12/29/2011 6:30:03 PM EST
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All these work fine. Or behind the ear not a head shot. In front of the shoulder to the ear there usually Drt.
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Link Posted: 12/29/2011 8:33:06 PM EST
While I agree the .223 is on the small side, when you have no easy option, then do it with the best of the bunch. The TSX70gr is about as good as it will get. I have the 62gr Fusion, they work okay as do the tsx62. The guys have covered placement for you. My only other advice??? It's an AR. Put 3 holes in whatever is in front of the rifle. 3-62gr bullets= 186gr. That's heavy, and hard to overcome............ A pair of blown lungs, plus a liver shot out and a hip shattered means a whole lot less chasing the animal.
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Link Posted: 12/30/2011 4:31:52 AM EST
While I agree the .223 is on the small side, when you have no easy option, then do it with the best of the bunch. The TSX70gr is about as good as it will get. I have the 62gr Fusion, they work okay as do the tsx62. The guys have covered placement for you. My only other advice??? It's an AR. Put 3 holes in whatever is in front of the rifle. 3-62gr bullets= 186gr. That's heavy, and hard to overcome............ A pair of blown lungs, plus a liver shot out and a hip shattered means a whole lot less chasing the animal.


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Link Posted: 12/30/2011 4:37:21 AM EST
I use 55 gr. FMJ.
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Link Posted: 12/30/2011 8:22:41 AM EST
The last one I killed was with a 69grn SMK. Dropped him where is stood.

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Link Posted: 1/2/2012 8:54:35 AM EST
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I use 55 gr. FMJ.



Me too.

However, if you're all worried about not losing your trophy hog (snicker), the TSX is probably the best bullet. The Gold Dot has performed perfectly for me, and I've read good things about the Fusion. I think any bonded bullet will work, just know that if you shoot a giant hog or one at extended range you stand a good chance of losing him. But don't worry, there will be a dozen more...
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Link Posted: 1/2/2012 10:29:22 AM EST
Originally Posted By Blasternank:
What grain and brand bullet are you using for hog hunting? I shoot a 6.8 but a buddy only has a .223 caliber AR. I've just seen a lot of animals get away using 55 gr. soft points. Hogs, deer, etc. I'm in TX and deer are smaller than other areas. IMHO .223 is not a good hunting cartridge but it is what it is and he has what he has. I was thinking maybe he could go to a heavier bullet and that would help some. We do reload so that is not a problem. Please don't say head shots as I'm not a big fan of those for many people and have seen too many jaws blown off and a lot of animals suffer.

Thanks for all your help and input!


We use Hornaday 223 75g BTHP. We killed well over 500 hogs and a few dozen deer on cull permits. We get them for $450 per 1000 so you can afford to shoot them a few times!! We target practice with the same bullets we hunt with. We shoot them in the neck and tru the shoulders, Texas heart shots, any which way they present... NASTY bullets. Destroys hogs under 150 and will kill any hog that walks..The average hog is 60-150 lbs and the biggest was 425lbs. The average distance was probably in the 70-150 yard range.
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Link Posted: 1/3/2012 5:34:37 PM EST
Ive used the 53 grain Corbon TSX and 55 grain Federal Premium TSX. I shoot 1:9 RRA mid-lengths and both shoot under an inch at 100 yds. All shots between my daughter and I on both deer and pigs have been under 100 yards and all have been complete pass through with broadside shots. Nothing has made it over 50 yards and most have only gone about 20. Granted, I have not shot a hog over 200 lbs with the rounds yet.

Hope that helps if your setup is similar to ours.

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Link Posted: 1/4/2012 7:27:34 AM EST
I reload but not .223 as of yet. I havent because I have had great success with the hornady redbox 55gr soft points. They come in a box of 50 for around 29 dollars. I have shot close to 25 hogs with it. Havent lost one yet, big blood trails and awesome penetration. Biggest hog I have taken with it was a 260lb sow with a behind the shoulder shot, she made it 30 yards. If I were gonna reload I would go with 60gr partitions or the barnes.
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Link Posted: 1/4/2012 11:26:19 AM EST
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The last one I killed was with a 69grn SMK. Dropped him where is stood.


Well I guess this worked for this guy but be advised that Sierra has specifically cautioned against the use of Match king (SMK) bullets for game
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Link Posted: 1/6/2012 5:49:01 PM EST
I've killed alot of deer with Sierra 52 grain Match BTHP from a 22-250. Not sure the difference between that and the game king but the match gets it done if you do your part.
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Link Posted: 1/7/2012 8:21:01 AM EST
Count me as another bthp smk user.
I know/guess there are "better" options available now.

But those bullets have been performing well on deer and hogs in Tx and Ok for 10+ yrs now for me.
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Link Posted: 1/13/2012 4:17:15 PM EST
I just killed a 375 boar with one 70 gr tsx behind shoulder he walked 2 yards and died twitched for 4-5 seconds and that's it. The round went completely through both shoulders and the lungs/ heart were in small chunks. I'm not bsing.Lasered at 60 yards Btw how do I add a pic?
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Link Posted: 1/14/2012 7:48:54 PM EST
55 gr FMJ

Have not had any major problem with any taking a solid hit and running off.

I have also had a chance to take down 3 over 1000lbs with 55 gr FMJ and all three were DRT.
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Link Posted: 1/14/2012 11:29:44 PM EST
Just got back from a hunt, had the .223 loaded with 55gr WAP HP's, any comments on using those for hogs? I usually use soft tips or 55gr FMJ, but have a massive surplus of the 55gr HP my brother gave to me, figured I'd start using some of it up.
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Link Posted: 1/15/2012 1:58:11 PM EST
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Just got back from a hunt, had the .223 loaded with 55gr WAP HP's, any comments on using those for hogs? I usually use soft tips or 55gr FMJ, but have a massive surplus of the 55gr HP my brother gave to me, figured I'd start using some of it up.


Double or triple tap. It would really depend on the construction of that HP; if it's a light skin, it will blow up on a shoulder/ hide shield. If you hit it in the neck, it will go down like a blond on prom night. If it's a heavy skin on the bullet, then it will at least penetrate the cavity and blow up inside the hog, which will kill it. But it might not STOP it right there; wear running shoes for the chase.......
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Link Posted: 1/16/2012 7:49:49 AM EST
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Just got back from a hunt, had the .223 loaded with 55gr WAP HP's, any comments on using those for hogs? I usually use soft tips or 55gr FMJ, but have a massive surplus of the 55gr HP my brother gave to me, figured I'd start using some of it up.


have gotten a few with 55gr fmj at close range, tis going ta try some 55gr hp but they getting hard ta find were i hunt... been skunked so far this year...
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Link Posted: 1/21/2012 2:18:22 AM EST
Its all about shot placement
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Link Posted: 1/22/2012 11:12:55 AM EST
Last weekend I used a 62 gr TSX sent this 109 pounder (according to the brand new scales) to the promised land. Through and through with 15" of penetration.

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Link Posted: 1/22/2012 1:00:38 PM EST
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Its all about shot placement


Last week my 8 YO son took a 140# at about 30 yards with a .223 55 grain TSX out of a 10.5" upper. A single shot got both lungs & it went about two steps.

Entrance wound:


Exit side:


I'd consider going to the 70 grain TSX and a longer barrel if we start getting opportunities at longer shots.
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Link Posted: 1/23/2012 1:27:14 AM EST
It's more about shot placement than the kind of bullet, as long as your bullets group well. Shot e'm in the head puttum to bed LOL , no tracking either.
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Link Posted: 2/26/2012 1:56:13 AM EST
I had alot of the same questions before i went on my oklahoma hog hunt.
went with the partition and it work perfectly. Killed two hogs w 2 sbots just behind the ear at about 35 yds
i may try the fusion next time but to me the rounds used were the cheapest part of the hunt.
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Link Posted: 2/26/2012 5:34:36 AM EST
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I had alot of the same questions before i went on my oklahoma hog hunt.
went with the partition and it work perfectly. Killed two hogs w 2 sbots just behind the ear at about 35 yds
i may try the fusion next time but to me the rounds used were the cheapest part of the hunt.
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sounds like ya had a good hunt... still haven't seen a hog ta try me TulAmmo 55gn hp have had luck with the 55gn fmj shot placement & close yrds...
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Link Posted: 2/26/2012 5:37:41 AM EST
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55 gr FMJ

Have not had any major problem with any taking a solid hit and running off.

I have also had a chance to take down 3 over 1000lbs with 55 gr FMJ and all three were DRT.


3 over a thousand pounds, eh?


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Link Posted: 3/3/2012 7:47:48 PM EST
Usually 55 or 62 grain soft points. Hand loads or silver bear.

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Link Posted: 3/12/2012 12:20:36 PM EST
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55 gr FMJ

Have not had any major problem with any taking a solid hit and running off.

I have also had a chance to take down 3 over 1000lbs with 55 gr FMJ and all three were DRT.


3 over a thousand pounds, eh?


Pigshit smells like bullshit. Amazing. (Unless you work a farm, and then whacking porkers over the fence is the game.)

I am giving you shit, 'cause I am figuring it's a typo!


Yes, 3 over a 1000 lbs, and yes I do manage a ranch. They were all my father in laws pigs that were no longer serving there purpose in his pig operation. All three shot between 30-50 yards with 55 gr FMJ and all three were dead before they hit the ground.

I also got four more in the "wild" last night with 55 gr FMJ shooting with a pvs 14 behind an eotech.

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Link Posted: 3/20/2012 4:47:16 PM EST
So for us non reloaders what brand factory ammo to get and where is the best place to ger
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Link Posted: 3/20/2012 5:35:18 PM EST

Yes, 3 over a 1000 lbs, and yes I do manage a ranch. They were all my father in laws pigs that were no longer serving there purpose in his pig operation. All three shot between 30-50 yards with 55 gr FMJ and all three were dead before they hit the ground.

I also got four more in the "wild" last night with 55 gr FMJ shooting with a pvs 14 behind an eotech.



That is cool; I just got back from Va. and we saw a couple real bruisers on a ranch there. I think the family we were staying with is going to buy in on one and split it up between 3 families. The hogs were between 750-950lb. WHOA!! I am talking bacon soaked in bacon, wrapped in bacon, dressed on a Va. salt cured ham...... with a side of bacon as a garnish.
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Link Posted: 3/20/2012 5:36:26 PM EST
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I like the Federal Fusion. It holds together well, and expands nicely. Most good shops will have it or a similar equivalent.
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Link Posted: 3/21/2012 11:34:13 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Rojodiablo:

Yes, 3 over a 1000 lbs, and yes I do manage a ranch. They were all my father in laws pigs that were no longer serving there purpose in his pig operation. All three shot between 30-50 yards with 55 gr FMJ and all three were dead before they hit the ground.

I also got four more in the "wild" last night with 55 gr FMJ shooting with a pvs 14 behind an eotech.



That is cool; I just got back from Va. and we saw a couple real bruisers on a ranch there. I think the family we were staying with is going to buy in on one and split it up between 3 families. The hogs were between 750-950lb. WHOA!! I am talking bacon soaked in bacon, wrapped in bacon, dressed on a Va. salt cured ham...... with a side of bacon as a garnish.


Needs more bacon...
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