Posted: 9/27/2014 5:50:59 PM EDT
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I have recently discovered the benefits of applying the military milrad system to hunting. I am 64 years old and have been deer hunting since I was a teen. Relatively low power 2-7x36 or 3-9x40) variables of high glass quality with simple duplex or German #4 reticles have served me well with a field zero designed around a maximim midrange trajectory of +3". That usually gives me a point blank range of 300 yards, after which I use hold over based on experience, and usually limit shots to no more than 400 yards for humane, ethical reasons, due to dropping bullet energy and the limits of my own marksmanship beyond that.
But, I have found the use of milrad "come ups" and adjustable milrad turrets, as I have learned in tactical AR shooting now gives me confidence to accurately shoot to 500 yards.
A good reticle in such a scope can have an illuminated dot and thick duplex outside edge reticle stadia and work extremy well in low light and at lower power on running game.
I am now using a tactical Leupold VX-R Patrol 3-9x40mm, 30mm main tube scope with Firedot TMR reticle for deer hunting on my .280 Remington bolt action. I have developed the "come up" and windage dope for shots beyond 300 yards, and still use my regular point blank zero which is about 2.5" high at 100 yards. This works extremely well. Old dogs can learn new tricks. I am a milrad convert for shots beyond 300 now. I still think 9x is plenty of magnification for deer size animals at 500. Of course, most of my deer are still taken under 200 yards, but I can take the beenfield and power line right of way shots with confidence I did not have with hunting reticles (even with BDC marks) and closed cap turrets. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quote History Quoted:
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No, over-complicating it. In the grand scheme of things, a 4% difference(168/175) between the weights of the two bullets is irrelevant for most real world shooting environments. I defy any human being to tell the difference between the bullets, on a called shot, off-hand, based only on point of impact, at 400 yards. Shooter error, technique, wind, and other factors likely will have more effect on POI than anything else. If I were you, I would use something in 2 -10x with 40-50 mm obj. lens. for versatility to meet most of your needs.
On my rifle, it would be a 4-6 fixed power in a 40-50 mm lens. I've been doing it this way for 40 years, and it works, well.
I have recently discovered the benefits of applying the military milrad system to hunting. I am 64 years old and have been deer hunting since I was a teen. Relatively low power 2-7x36 or 3-9x40) variables of high glass quality with simple duplex or German #4 reticles have served me well with a field zero designed around a maximim midrange trajectory of +3". That usually gives me a point blank range of 300 yards, after which I use hold over based on experience, and usually limit shots to no more than 400 yards for humane, ethical reasons, due to dropping bullet energy and the limits of my own marksmanship beyond that.
But, I have found the use of milrad "come ups" and adjustable milrad turrets, as I have learned in tactical AR shooting now gives me confidence to accurately shoot to 500 yards.
A good reticle in such a scope can have an illuminated dot and thick duplex outside edge reticle stadia and work extremy well in low light and at lower power on running game.
I am now using a tactical Leupold VX-R Patrol 3-9x40mm, 30mm main tube scope with Firedot TMR reticle for deer hunting on my .280 Remington bolt action. I have developed the "come up" and windage dope for shots beyond 300 yards, and still use my regular point blank zero which is about 2.5" high at 100 yards. This works extremely well. Old dogs can learn new tricks. I am a milrad convert for shots beyond 300 now. I still think 9x is plenty of magnification for deer size animals at 500. Of course, most of my deer are still taken under 200 yards, but I can take the beenfield and power line right of way shots with confidence I did not have with hunting reticles (even with BDC marks) and closed cap turrets.
I agree with you in regards to milrads. My AR10 wears a Nikon 4-12x40 with a mil-dot reticle. With practice, and the mil-dot calculator, I am comfortable shooting at distances I would never have considered ten years ago. I am using a 300 yd zero and dialing elevation as needed at longer ranges. This gun is not used for hunting. I am a still hunter, and don't sit over feeders, so my fixed power 270's, 06, .222 Rem are more than suited for that. I am NOT bashing stand hunters, I simply prefer to hunt (when I can) rather than sit. That is why I like Bow hunting, and Muzzle loading as well. ymmv
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