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Posted: 3/18/2024 9:58:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RocketmanOU: I'm in for a net for sure. Would love to get this working. I can receive but am yet to successfully send a message that was received elsewhere. |
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Posted: 3/18/2024 1:15:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkLordVader: Try FT8 first. js8call uses part of the WSJTX code base. FT8 has a lot more traffic and is easier to get through the learning curve of tuning your PC and radio audio settings. The same settings for FT8 should work perfectly with js8call. Use PSKReporter to see if anyone can hear RF emissions from you. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkLordVader: Originally Posted By RocketmanOU: I'm in for a net for sure. Would love to get this working. I can receive but am yet to successfully send a message that was received elsewhere. |
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Posted: 3/18/2024 2:01:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DarkLordVader]
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TimeIsMoney: JS8 doesn't have option for Icom 705, so you have to trick it into thinking you are using a IC7300, 94h vs A4h. Because of that I have separate saved settings for JS8 vs FT8 ) here have said you can replace the .DLL in windows with a newer HamLib and get the updated radio list. I had to recompile mine for the Ft-710 since it was a new radio. For Linux, the standard build does not have IC-705 but my recompiled version does. The latest linux compile has a 'fpermissive' compiler flag error, its a simple fix. I can post if anyone runs into it. |
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Posted: 3/18/2024 5:30:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkLordVader: I believe the radio options are in HamLib. On Linux I compiled mine from source with the latest HamLib. I think others (@K9-Bob ? ) here have said you can replace the .DLL in windows with a newer HamLib and get the updated radio list. I had to recompile mine for the Ft-710 since it was a new radio. For Linux, the standard build does not have IC-705 but my recompiled version does. The latest linux compile has a 'fpermissive' compiler flag error, its a simple fix. I can post if anyone runs into it. |
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Posted: 3/18/2024 6:53:20 PM EDT
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Sorry I've been absent after starting this thread. I've been away all weekend.
Anyway, i updated the first post, SCHEDULE. See what you guys think, and we need some input. Day and time are left blank. I chose secondary freqs by going through different mode band plans and looking for vacancies. If you see a conflict with any , let me know. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 1:12:00 PM EDT
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I think 10 min per band might be too short. I have met on GhostNet and they are in 30min segments. That way if people have problems, it gives them a little time to iron things out before the group moved to next freq. Or maybe, the top of hour for 30 min official arfcom, and for anyone who wants to just hang out, if their band better is suited the last 30 min. Then official meetup on next band top of the hour. Just some suggestions.
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Posted: 3/19/2024 1:34:23 PM EDT
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I agree, 10 minutes is too short for anything meaningful. I suggested that time so we could keep the net to about an hour. Initially, we will have a lot of bands that we are trying out, too many. As we see which bands work and which don't, we can cull them from the list. Ideally, it would be great to pare the list down to around 3 bands, but which 3? If we cut it down to 3, that's 20 min per band, or we have a shorter net.
Again, nobody is anchored to the schedule. If someone needs help dialing it in, they and others can skip a window. If someone knows that they won't be on 12,15,17, etc, they can jump straight to 20 or 40. Post up here about it, and others may do the same thing. The windows that I posted will change as we find certain bands just don't work well or are redundant. Also, everything at this point is very fluid. I just tossed something out there to get the conversation started. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 1:50:09 PM EDT
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I know when I am on, I usually throw out a @arfcom just to see if anyone is on. Usually, I am on 40m, which I think is a pretty universal band day or night. I am sure it will take a bit of time to get everyone dialed in, and I appreciate you getting something started. My suggestion on having 30 min at the top of an hour spanned out was to allow people to get home from work, or whatever, and still be able to catch the net at some point. I am easy and will try to catch it at whatever time is universally good for the group.
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Posted: 3/19/2024 2:26:14 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TimeIsMoney: I know when I am on, I usually throw out a @arfcom just to see if anyone is on. Usually, I am on 40m, which I think is a pretty universal band day or night. I am sure it will take a bit of time to get everyone dialed in, and I appreciate you getting something started. My suggestion on having 30 min at the top of an hour spanned out was to allow people to get home from work, or whatever, and still be able to catch the net at some point. I am easy and will try to catch it at whatever time is universally good for the group. I'm 20 during the day and 40 in the evening. 20 day time is way better. 40 stops working for me when the sun comes up. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 6:13:44 PM EDT
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I probably won't get the hang of it for a while, but I have set up flrig, ft8, and js8call set up. I will set up fldigi as well. Got my little box working.
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Posted: 3/21/2024 10:01:45 PM EDT
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I posted up a day and time just to get something started.
It'll be after the Tues night SSB net. There will be about 20 minutes or so between nets. |
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Posted: 3/21/2024 10:28:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GreenDragon: I posted up a day and time just to get something started. It'll be after the Tues night SSB net. There will be about 20 minutes or so between nets. You may need to clarify your net time. 0100Z Tues is actually Monday evening local time. If you are planning on operating after the Tues evening SSB net, then that would be 0100Z Wednesday, or 2000 hrs CDT Tuesday evening. |
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Posted: 3/21/2024 10:33:40 PM EDT
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I would only add for new digital folks; learn how to monitor your ALC meter to see if you are over driving your transmit signal.
Overdriving your signal, resulting in high ALC readings, causes issues. |
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Posted: 3/21/2024 10:52:25 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weaponeer1911: You may need to clarify your net time. 0100Z Tues is actually Monday evening local time. If you are planning on operating after the Tues evening SSB net, then that would be 0100Z Wednesday, or 2000 hrs CDT Tuesday evening. Good point. I'll ditch the Zulu time or it might add confusion. |
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Posted: 3/21/2024 11:04:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shootindave: I would only add for new digital folks; learn how to monitor your ALC meter to see if you are over driving your transmit signal. Overdriving your signal, resulting in high ALC readings, causes issues. There is a good method up above on how to do this with the IC7300. When i get some time, i hope to add some notes in the first few posts. Another thing is people need to make sure that their clock is on the money. |
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Posted: 3/21/2024 11:18:07 PM EDT
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Bkt Time Sync has worked well for me. Will take time over network or time from a GPS dongle if you are portable. Has seemed reliable once setup.
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Posted: 3/23/2024 2:13:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TimeIsMoney]
[#17]
Starting on 12m moving to 80m in 10min intervals. Tuesday's, at these times, is this correct? Might miss a lot of Pacific guys during dinner time.
6pm PDT 8pm CDT 9pm EDT |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 2:01:40 AM EDT
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Tonight I turned on js8 call and got all the settings dialed in. I was actually seeing some heartbeats, and a conversation. I sent out a cq, and one of the guys mentioned he heard me to the other guy. I had zero idea what I was doing.
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Posted: 3/25/2024 11:10:35 AM EDT
[#19]
The bands have been ass so I’m super excited to see if I can get down there in JS8 today
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Posted: 3/25/2024 1:19:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Tonight I turned on js8 call and got all the settings dialed in. I was actually seeing some heartbeats, and a conversation. I sent out a cq, and one of the guys mentioned he heard me to the other guy. I had zero idea what I was doing.  JS8Call from A-Z Covering the Basics to Advanced Settings In One Video |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 2:08:05 PM EDT
[#21]
Thanks!
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Posted: 3/25/2024 8:40:35 PM EDT
[#22]
Had a 15 minute chat with a guy in FL. the call sign was NA4ASA. He answered my only cq along with a couple other guys. they just wanted signal reports, but he called back with name and rig, so we talked. I found out I can get my ALC to zero using the amp and push out a strong clean signal. Cleaner than the radio alone. can you just type in @heartbeat to send out a heartbeat signal?
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Posted: 3/26/2024 5:54:54 PM EDT
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I think I might be operational.
I am using wfview to connect my 705 to my win11 laptop via wifi. Long term I’d like to figure out a small server (prob raspberry pi) that I can use as a jump box to get through the starlink router so I can remote control from anywhere. Anyways, I set up external control in wfview and point js8call at it. Js8call passes the connect and transmit tests. It appears to be listening and I tried a CQ but I never heard anyone else. So idk. Now I need to go back and confirm all the js8call settings and ALC stuff from earlier in thread. Are you guys saying the net starts at 9pm tonight and is 30 min per band so ends at midnight? I must be missing something |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 5:56:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TimeIsMoney]
[#24]
Not sure I will make net tonight. It's right at dinner time and I am making pulled pork.
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Posted: 3/26/2024 5:57:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By taliv: I think I might be operational. I am using wfview to connect my 705 to my win11 laptop via wifi. Long term I'd like to figure out a small server (prob raspberry pi) that I can use as a jump box to get through the starlink router so I can remote control from anywhere. Anyways, I set up external control in wfview and point js8call at it. Js8call passes the connect and transmit tests. It appears to be listening and I tried a CQ but I never heard anyone else. So idk. Now I need to go back and confirm all the js8call settings and ALC stuff from earlier in thread. Are you guys saying the net starts at 9pm tonight and is 30 min per band so ends at midnight? I must be missing something |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 6:59:26 PM EDT
[#26]
No idea
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Posted: 3/26/2024 7:23:47 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By taliv: No idea |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 7:27:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: taliv]
[#28]
Oh yeah I have complete control of radio with wfview and get sound from laptop speakers.
Used wfview in the past |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 7:30:41 PM EDT
[#29]
In JS8Call file>settings>audio, under modulation soundcard what does it say?
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Posted: 3/26/2024 7:31:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TimeIsMoney]
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Posted: 3/26/2024 7:54:28 PM EDT
[#31]
So 12m in a little more than an hour? Did I do time conversion correctly?
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Posted: 3/26/2024 8:02:27 PM EDT
[#32]
I believe so. I'm on 20m currently
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Posted: 3/26/2024 8:05:01 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TimeIsMoney: I believe so. I'm on 20m currently I'm on 12m for testing. Throwing out SNR? to @ARFCOM |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 8:07:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TimeIsMoney]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tyrex13: I'm on 12m for testing. Throwing out SNR? to @ARFCOM |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 8:44:30 PM EDT
[#35]
Yes, 12m starts in about 15 minutes
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Posted: 3/26/2024 8:45:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: K9-Bob]
[#36]
I am working somebody on 20m now....and now I remember why I don't like using JS8Call.
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Posted: 3/26/2024 8:53:50 PM EDT
[#37]
It is slow, for sure. Decent activity prener on 20m
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Posted: 3/26/2024 8:55:42 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GreenDragon: It is slow, for sure. Decent activity prener on 20m Just cause it's slow doesn't mean there's not propagation. Slow is good for what we're doing. 90% of JS8 activity seems to be on 20/40. Doesn't mean that's where our group needs to be for directed comms. |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 8:57:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GreenDragon: It is slow, for sure. Decent activity prener on 20m I don't really care for the mode, but the results seem to be very good. Any amount of real traffic sent or received would take forever. |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 9:03:30 PM EDT
[#40]
I got nothing on 12m
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Posted: 3/26/2024 9:05:10 PM EDT
[#41]
Me neither. I'm throwing out an SNR? every 2 minutes per the band schedule. 15 or 17 should be g2g for me.
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Posted: 3/26/2024 9:05:34 PM EDT
[#42]
-17db into HI on 12m. Is AK listening on 12?
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Posted: 3/26/2024 9:05:59 PM EDT
[#43]
Nothing on 15m for me
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Posted: 3/26/2024 9:06:46 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tyrex13: Just cause it's slow doesn't mean there's not propagation. Slow is good for what we're doing. 90% of JS8 activity seems to be on 20/40. Doesn't mean that's where our group needs to be for directed comms. Eventually, we should settle on a three or four bands, 20 and 40 being two of them. I figure we can try the different bands for a bit and see which others are a good fit. |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 9:07:27 PM EDT
[#45]
Def 20/40
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Posted: 3/26/2024 9:08:10 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GreenDragon: Eventually, we should settle on a three or four bands, 20 and 40 being two of them. I figure we can try the different bands for a bit and see which others are a good fit. Agree, but I'm super curious about 30m. I think we might be able to get away with 15m during day and 30m at night based on some of my WSPR work, but this is very valid testing. |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 9:10:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GreenDragon: Eventually, we should settle on a three or four bands, 20 and 40 being two of them. I figure we can try the different bands for a bit and see which others are a good fit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GreenDragon: Originally Posted By tyrex13: Just cause it's slow doesn't mean there's not propagation. Slow is good for what we're doing. 90% of JS8 activity seems to be on 20/40. Doesn't mean that's where our group needs to be for directed comms. Eventually, we should settle on a three or four bands, 20 and 40 being two of them. I figure we can try the different bands for a bit and see which others are a good fit. I cam hear NE, IL x2. Partial decode of green dragon though (……) |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 9:12:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GreenDragon]
[#48]
On 12m, I copied OR, NE, and IL, getting a response from IL.
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Posted: 3/26/2024 9:16:26 PM EDT
[#49]
Not hearing anyone on 12, running legal limit if you hear me at all. 12 seems kinda dead.
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Posted: 3/26/2024 9:16:58 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlatlandBusa: Not hearing anyone on 12, running legal limit if you hear me at all. 12 seems kinda dead. we are on 15m now. 17m at 20 min after the hour.. |
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